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[Wismar]

In the Napoleonic Wars only 1/4 of all soldiers that died in combat were shot down. The rest was mostly killed in melee and some got killed by artillery fire. And in the early 17th Century the muskets were less accurate. I think maybe 1/6-1/10 died by musket shots ...
And will there musket missfires be integrated?

I very much doubt that there were more melee kills than musket kills during the NWs since bayonet charges barely happened. Where do you get these facts from?

[Archduke Sven]

In the Napoleonic Wars only 1/4 of all soldiers that died in combat were shot down. The rest was mostly killed in melee and some got killed by artillery fire. And in the early 17th Century the muskets were less accurate. I think maybe 1/6-1/10 died by musket shots ...
And will there musket missfires be integrated?

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That is just incredibly wrong, i can't remember the exact numbers but 5% of all casualties where from bayonets, 60% from artillerymuskets and 25% musket balls Artillery and 10% sabres.

Bayonet charges usually ended up with one side running away immediatly before or upon contact with the charging enemy, which meant that most of a 'bayonet charge' was done with musket fire. It was extremely rare for two units to fight eachother in melee in open ground and only really happened if the defending side was in field fortifications. Same with pikemen, the side that was the most determined held ground/pressed on the attack, and the side who was the least determined fled.

This man explains it very well:

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edit: Put the wrong percentage for the wrong arm.

[Docm30]

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he got them from an inaccurate source and didn't just make them up.

The respected historian John A. Lynn states that the best evidence suggests about two-thirds of Napoleonic combat wounds were caused by musket fire and around 2% by bayonets. André Corvisirer states that of the inmates at the Invalides in 1715, over 70% had musket wounds and fewer than 3% had bayonet wounds. Larrey, Napoleon's surgeon general, recorded similar numbers.

Artillery didn't begin to cause the majority of casualties in European-style warfare until WW1.

I have no idea how this relates to the early 17th century, but I'm just here to correct what needs correcting.

[Willhelm]

I dont think it's the same with pikemen, they would press against each other in a "push of pike" with the men behind pushing forward, eventually one sides formation collapsed. A deep formation worked much better than a wide one for this reason, and apparently you didn't thrust your pike, you just walked it into them. Theres some debate over how effect the armour was and whether or not the first ranks would all be killed in the initial impact though.

[CharlesVasser]

One does not simply make a thread without starting an argument.

[SeanBeansShako]

I wish these forums were moderated. I get tired of reading mod threads for news about said mods and skipping 2-3 pages of needless arguments.

[Feldsau]

So and you are the obligatory flamers, every mod thread needs? What´s so wrong about the discussion, it´s no off topic spam but a debate about the warfare in this time period and the possible transfer into the gameplay...

[Waterbeetle]

Discussions are fine, if we keep it civilized ofcourse.

[BSM 'Shut up' Williams]

I wish these forums were moderated. I get tired of reading mod threads for news about said mods and skipping 2-3 pages of needless arguments.

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[Archduke Sven]

I wish these forums were moderated. I get tired of reading mod threads for news about said mods and skipping 2-3 pages of needless arguments.

I'm tired of people whining.

[KArantukki]

There was the question about the amount of pikemen and musketeers in the armies. In one of my books there is a line about the swedish army of Gustav II. Adolf:

"The Infantry was organized in battalions, each battalion had four companies, in each company there were 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen."

[Archduke Sven]

There was the question about the amount of pikemen and musketeers in the armies. In one of my books there is a line about the swedish army of Gustav II. Adolf:

"The Infantry was organized in battalions, each battalion had four companies, in each company there were 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen."

Which time of the war? It varied depending on year, with the formations at the end of the war having many more musketeers than pikes. Well since you're saying Gustav II Adolf's army i take it you mean 1629-32?

By the way, Battle of Lutzen/Gustav II Adolfs death was 381 years ago today.

[KArantukki]

There was the question about the amount of pikemen and musketeers in the armies. In one of my books there is a line about the swedish army of Gustav II. Adolf:

"The Infantry was organized in battalions, each battalion had four companies, in each company there were 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen."

Which time of the war? It varied depending on year, with the formations at the end of the war having many more musketeers than pikes. Well since you're saying Gustav II Adolf's army i take it you mean 1629-32?

By the way, Battle of Lutzen/Gustav II Adolfs death was 381 years ago today.

I think it was in the first years when he begann to reform his army, so before the swedish intervention in the thirty years war.

[KArantukki]

A screenshot of a new map, you can see some new wall props.

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[BSM 'Shut up' Williams]

Amaizing!