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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #240 on: August 10, 2015, 06:31:59 pm »
I think the tasset was rapidly falling out of fashion by this era. If you look at this photo from the King's Lifeguard of Foote re-enactment group then none of them are in tassets and some don't even wear armour at all!

  Some soldiers did wear them though, I would have two options, one with and one without. I have attached a picture of some figures I painted from the King's Lifeguard as well.

Here goes the "5 ranks problem". Script for 6 ranks is not working.
I will need to keep armor with tasset only random.

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #241 on: August 10, 2015, 06:34:23 pm »
Fun fact:
Breastplates for pikemen were going out of fashion near the end of the English civil war, the reason being that armoured pikemen couldn't keep up with lighter musketeers who could just shoot and outrun them on a block v block engagement.
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #242 on: August 10, 2015, 07:19:24 pm »
Lost patience, adding buffcoats to every single pikeman

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #243 on: August 10, 2015, 07:26:43 pm »
I would keep them in armour, perhaps just have the helmet, breast and backplate without tassets as a compromise? Buff coats were worn extensively during the English Civil War but were most popularly utilized by the cavalry. I have never seen many illustrations of pikemen wearing buffcoats. Remember, you can always do a second version of the mod with more fleshed out units. I have a book on order as well about the uniforms of the Civil War, should be here in a few days.
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #244 on: August 10, 2015, 07:28:21 pm »
I would keep them in armour, perhaps just have the helmet, breast and backplate without tassets as a compromise? Buff coats were worn extensively during the English Civil War but were most popularly utilized by the cavalry. I have never seen many illustrations of pikemen wearing buffcoats. Remember, you can always do second version of the mod with more fleshed out units. I have a book on order as well about the uniforms of the Civil War, should be here in a few days.

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #245 on: August 10, 2015, 08:42:01 pm »


  I was experimenting a little earlier and came up with these.
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #246 on: August 10, 2015, 08:44:30 pm »


  I was experimenting a little earlier and came up with these.

They look great!  :) Thanks!

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #247 on: August 10, 2015, 10:25:19 pm »
I can't find anything about Leslie's Flag. I will give them just Scotland flag

EDIT: Found something
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #248 on: August 11, 2015, 11:45:07 am »
What hat/helmet should cuirassier trumpeter wear? I thought about opened armet, but it's a bit complicated to make it open  :-\

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #249 on: August 11, 2015, 12:38:38 pm »
Well if Warlord Games are anything to go by, then trumpeters didn't wear any armour:
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #250 on: August 11, 2015, 12:40:28 pm »
Well if Warlord Games are anything to go by, then trumpeters didn't wear any armour:


That image is from bad perpective. I cant see what is he wearing

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #251 on: August 11, 2015, 01:43:46 pm »
He is basically equipped like most other trumpeters. They tended to wear soft hats from what I can see:

  And some Perry Miniatures figures:

http://toysoldiersanddiningroombattles.blogspot.co.uk/2013_08_01_archive.html
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #252 on: August 11, 2015, 01:45:22 pm »
He is basically equipped like most other trumpeters. They tended to wear soft hats from what I can see:

  And some Perry Miniatures figures:

http://toysoldiersanddiningroombattles.blogspot.co.uk/2013_08_01_archive.html

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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #253 on: August 11, 2015, 03:31:13 pm »
  No problem. By the way, I notice that they (Warlord Games) have labelled the trumpeter as a cornet. Whilst I understand that the cornet is a musical instrument, there was (and still is in the Blues and Royals and Queens Royal Hussars) the rank of Cornet. A Cornet is the equivalent to an ensign in the infantry, thus would carry the Colours, so from what I understand, this fellow should be referred to as a Trumpeter whilst the cavalry ensign should be known as a Cornet.
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Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod
« Reply #254 on: August 11, 2015, 03:41:43 pm »
  No problem. By the way, I notice that they (Warlord Games) have labelled the trumpeter as a cornet. Whilst I understand that the cornet is a musical instrument, there was (and still is in the Blues and Royals and Queens Royal Hussars) the rank of Cornet. A Cornet is the equivalent to an ensign in the infantry, thus would carry the Colours, so from what I understand, this fellow should be referred to as a Trumpeter whilst the cavalry ensign should be known as a Cornet.
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Haslerig's Cuirassiers regiment is completed





Also, I decided to make Covenanters wear only grey uniforms again.