Blood and Iron - General discussion.

[MilfAndCookies]

Good to see that you are still working on this Will.

[TORN]

Looks great can't wait for this! Any idea of a realease date or Alpha release? 

alpha has been released.

It is only closed 

[GoblinOverlord]

I think he means the open one...... Can't wait!!! 

[Willhelm]

There won't be an open Alpha, I'm not releasing an unfinished mod, there will just be a release.

[James Grant]

I've never understood the purpose of open alpha's. Has always seemed a silly prospect.

[Docm30]

So you can get constant and early feedback. Worked for Counter-Strike.

[James Grant]

Well it can work, but it can also go against you. Some people are so fickle that they'll not be impressed by the alpha and so never give any time for the full release.

I'm not one of those people, but some are.

[Comrade Temuzu]

What makes you think we'd want filthy casuals like that playing the mod?

[Rigadoon]

I've never understood the purpose of open alpha's. Has always seemed a silly prospect.

It's a good way of killing your mod off quick. The success of a MP mod is all about how good the first public release is. Released mods get its first two weeks of fame and full servers. If the mod isn't good enough to keep people interested, the playerbase falls apart. You can release patches and updates, popularity might rise up a bit, but it'll never be what it was before and even then, it's only for a couple days. Eventually nobody plays the mod, and the hours of hardwork into creating it becomes meaningless. Then people finally figure out that it's not a good idea to constantly harass and pressure modders into releasing their mods earlier.

[Landrik]

I've never understood the purpose of open alpha's. Has always seemed a silly prospect.

It's a good way of killing your mod off quick. The success of a MP mod is all about how good the first public release is. Released mods get its first two weeks of fame and full servers. If the mod isn't good enough to keep people interested, the playerbase falls apart. You can release patches and updates, popularity might rise up a bit, but it'll never be what it was before and even then, it's only for a couple days. Eventually nobody plays the mod, and the hours of hardwork into creating it becomes meaningless. Then people finally figure out that it's not a good idea to constantly harass and pressure modders into releasing their mods earlier.

+1

I'd rather it come out in full glory. Besides, with the few regiments that are in alpha right now, I think Wil is getting all the feedback he needs right now.

[Willhelm]

I've never understood the purpose of open alpha's. Has always seemed a silly prospect.

It's a good way of killing your mod off quick. The success of a MP mod is all about how good the first public release is. Released mods get its first two weeks of fame and full servers. If the mod isn't good enough to keep people interested, the playerbase falls apart. You can release patches and updates, popularity might rise up a bit, but it'll never be what it was before and even then, it's only for a couple days. Eventually nobody plays the mod, and the hours of hardwork into creating it becomes meaningless. Then people finally figure out that it's not a good idea to constantly harass and pressure modders into releasing their mods earlier.

This, I don't want everyone to go and play the alpha and then when the finished version is released have everyone be like "Meh, I've already played it". Especially considering an alpha at this point would be very near to complete so any release would just be like a patch.

And yes, I've got plenty of feedback from the closed alpha.

[SeanBeansShako]

I've never understood the purpose of open alpha's. Has always seemed a silly prospect.

It is hard to beta test a multiplayer game or mod with one person or system type.

[Rigadoon]

I've never understood the purpose of open alpha's. Has always seemed a silly prospect.

It is hard to beta test a multiplayer game or mod with one person or system type.

That's why you get 20-100 people to who you know are actually going to test and report issues. Or you can make an open alpha...and still get 20-100 people who report issues while everybody else just fools around. It works for large games but in my opinion it's silly for mods and small indie games.

[Bacon]

WIP jst a random map that poppped up in my head.

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[Reverse]

WIP jst a random map that poppped up in my head.

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Thats great!