Blood and Iron - General discussion.

[von_Bismarck]

There's a small cannon type (can't remember name) that is ussually mounted on railings and such.
That cannon has one less step when reloading. Maybe you can use that one to work with?

That cannon can't be moved though, I don't think the Prussians want static artillery, but I will look into it. North and South has 3 artillery pieces so it must be possible.

I take it there will be linebattles and events in this mod?

There will be events, obviously, but there won't be linebattles at all, in the franco-prussian war there were repeating rifles, the artillery was extremely powerful and there were deployed 310 machine guns, so please tell me, with all that technology and even more do you want to make a linebattle?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO3haWrRtrY[/youtube]

We have already had this discussion, I don't want to have it again. 

They didn't have repeating rifles, well not the main forces, they had single shot breech loading rifles which could fire about 12 shots a minute, compared to a muskets 4, if a good soldier can fire one shot every 15 seconds.

I am sure the french partisans had.

[von_Bismarck]

I think it'd be more of a hybrid between WW1 and line combat. So line formations and discipline, but making use of cover and environment.

You are right, the players will need to use more cover. However, it won't be a static line like the WWI, but fluid as the napoleonic wars.

[Willhelm]

There's a small cannon type (can't remember name) that is ussually mounted on railings and such.
That cannon has one less step when reloading. Maybe you can use that one to work with?

That cannon can't be moved though, I don't think the Prussians want static artillery, but I will look into it. North and South has 3 artillery pieces so it must be possible.

I take it there will be linebattles and events in this mod?

There will be events, obviously, but there won't be linebattles at all, in the franco-prussian war there were repeating rifles, the artillery was extremely powerful and there were deployed 310 machine guns, so please tell me, with all that technology and even more do you want to make a linebattle?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO3haWrRtrY[/youtube]

We have already had this discussion, I don't want to have it again. 

They didn't have repeating rifles, well not the main forces, they had single shot breech loading rifles which could fire about 12 shots a minute, compared to a muskets 4, if a good soldier can fire one shot every 15 seconds.

I am sure the french partisans had.

Some had spencer carbines but that is later in the war so not for first release.

[ProfTournesol]

I think it'd be more of a hybrid between WW1 and line combat. So line formations and discipline, but making use of cover and environment.

Yes, that's how i'm seing it too.

[von_Bismarck]

I think it'd be more of a hybrid between WW1 and line combat. So line formations and discipline, but making use of cover and environment.

Yes, that's how i'm seing it too.

Don't worry, it will be fluid as the napoleonic wars and the very very early WWI (Before the trenches set on)  I mean that in a nutshell the cavalry will hold it's importance in the battlefield but the tactics will be very different than from the napoleonic wars.

Don't forget that charging is not the only thing we (cavalry) know to do!, eh! 

[Willhelm]

There's 3 cavalry units for each side, two of which have carbines, i think they will operate well as mounted infantry, the melee only cuirassier will be different though, i don't think they will be underpowered but you will have to use them wisely and exploit the enemy at crucial points.

[von_Bismarck]

There's 3 cavalry units for each side, two of which have carbines, i think they will operate well as mounted infantry, the melee only cuirassier will be different though, i don't think they will be underpowered but you will have to use them wisely and exploit the enemy at crucial points.

Exactly, the cavalry will face the same problems that had in the real war and late 19th century, early 20th century, but afterall we will still prevail.

[Galadhion]

I also think the nature of the map will motivate close range engagements supported by artillery rather than moving actual lines to face eachother. Ambushes and defensive setups would be common, I expect.

[OGNValjean]

I also think the nature of the map will motivate close range engagements supported by artillery rather than moving actual lines to face eachother. Ambushes and defensive setups would be common, I expect.

There should be two natures in my opinion, Quick and Brutal, like fast pace combat, Cavalry has more chances to be effective, artillery is OP, accuracy is key.

and Long and Bloody, Cavalry can be most deceisive, artillery merely closes off choke points and fire power is key.

[Wismar]

Sorry guys but you have to see this. It's the most beautifull thing in the world.
It's the changing of the royal guard in Stockholm, Sweden.

[TORN]

Sorry guys but you have to see this. It's the most beautifull thing in the world.
It's the changing of the royal guard in Stockholm, Sweden.

....and?

Talk about going totally off-topic.

[Wismar]

Sorry guys but you have to see this. It's the most beautifull thing in the world.
It's the changing of the royal guard in Stockholm, Sweden.

....and?

Talk about going totally off-topic.

As you can see they look really similar to the Prussians.

[James Grant]

Sorry guys but you have to see this. It's the most beautifull thing in the world.
It's the changing of the royal guard in Stockholm, Sweden.

....and?

Talk about going totally off-topic.

If you look they are really similar to the Prussians.

So Swedish drill of 2013 should be the same as the Prussian one in the 1870s. I would call you an idiot. And lets be honest, it isn't beautiful. They look bloody ridiculous or do you not see them skipping around?

[Wismar]

Sorry guys but you have to see this. It's the most beautifull thing in the world.
It's the changing of the royal guard in Stockholm, Sweden.

....and?

Talk about going totally off-topic.

If you look they are really similar to the Prussians.

So Swedish drill of 2013 should be the same as the Prussian one in the 1870s. I would call you an idiot. And lets be honest, it isn't beautiful. They look bloody ridiculous or do you not see them skipping around?

Uhmm...
Somebody had a bad day.
The only thing I said was that they looked similar
and if you can't handle opinions then you shouldn't be posting comments.

[McEwan]

Don't argue people; argue points (on-topic points might I add). In addition, insults are not needed so keep them out of conversation.