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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #120 on: June 30, 2021, 04:09:08 am »
if you really want to make a tournament for beginners and give weaker teams and players to prove themselves, you need to remove and restrict the access of strong players to the tournament. exclude Akatsuki, the Achilles team, and then it really will be a tournament of weak, third-rate teams - which will be of interest. and so - it makes no sense.

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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #121 on: June 30, 2021, 05:25:44 am »
All of this could have been avoided if there had been no prior mention of the word 'rookie' in your tournament. Could have been calling that a 'Low Tier players' tournament (which it basically is) and it would have been fine. There are no real 'rookies' in NW, or at least not enough to make it worth it for Blitz or other people to host a tournament that literally prevents anyone but rookie to play. Obviously, people whose teams consist of the newest/less experimented players will argue for the term 'rookie' to be taken literally so that they have greater chances of making a deep playoffs run.

With that being said, I like some of the ideas implemented to decide who should be prevented and who shouldn't. It means Kennedy and I won't get to play for the 13e Academy like we were planning to but so long as I don't see people similar to us in skill/tournament record/experience allowed to play, I am entirely fine with it. On the other hand, any ruleset shouldn't be taken literally for a tournament such as these and you should allow certain situations to be dealt with on a case per case basis. For example, I have an indisputable better record than someone like Ruler (Audric), been playing for longer, for much better teams, etc... yet there is no denying he has been a much more skilled player on the field across the past two years and a half.

I won't make a huge deal if he gets to play and I don't but that's just to highlight how blurry the line will remain, regardless of how complex and detailed you make your ruleset. Your number one priority should always be to prevent people whose participations are at risk of unbalancing your competition as a whole and this mindset should always be prioritized whilst dealing with accepting/preventing a player to participate, regardless if it follows your ruleset line per line.

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« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2021, 09:14:39 am »
All of this could have been avoided if there had been no prior mention of the word 'rookie' in your tournament. Could have been calling that a 'Low Tier players' tournament (which it basically is) and it would have been fine. There are no real 'rookies' in NW, or at least not enough to make it worth it for Blitz or other people to host a tournament that literally prevents anyone but rookie to play. Obviously, people whose teams consist of the newest/less experimented players will argue for the term 'rookie' to be taken literally so that they have greater chances of making a deep playoffs run.

With that being said, I like some of the ideas implemented to decide who should be prevented and who shouldn't. It means Kennedy and I won't get to play for the 13e Academy like we were planning to but so long as I don't see people similar to us in skill/tournament record/experience allowed to play, I am entirely fine with it. On the other hand, any ruleset shouldn't be taken literally for a tournament such as these and you should allow certain situations to be dealt with on a case per case basis. For example, I have an indisputable better record than someone like Ruler (Audric), been playing for longer, for much better teams, etc... yet there is no denying he has been a much more skilled player on the field across the past two years and a half.

I won't make a huge deal if he gets to play and I don't but that's just to highlight how blurry the line will remain, regardless of how complex and detailed you make your ruleset. Your number one priority should always be to prevent people whose participations are at risk of unbalancing your competition as a whole and this mindset should always be prioritized whilst dealing with accepting/preventing a player to participate, regardless if it follows your ruleset line per line.

Good luck with this!
There will be a rule today about you and Kennedy being able to play

And to address Sasuke, There will always be a favourite team. In the normal competitive scene it’s usually pattern academy, poosy or chimpz. I can only do so much to restrict players from being able to play who arnt really rookies but like tardet said it’s more for low tier players more than actual rookies

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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2021, 11:09:02 am »
The main issue with these tournaments, as i said to mask, is that inherently every team is going to try to bend the rules to get the best possible players in that they can rather than allowing new players to learn and play somewhere they don't get curbstomped by top level guys, as i said to mask before the last tournament rookie is a totally arbitrary term without a single seasonal league structure to go off that has stable teams, the only way i can think of doing this is regimentally with no gren company players allowed because otherwise as we've already seen one team has achilles and chuckster, another has players like altair and ruler, if either roster gets allowed it ruins the point of the whole tournament.

Personally i don't think rookie tournaments are the way to go about this, maybe it should be more invitational in nature, regardless there will always be people more focused on trying to dominate the tournament with a cheesy roster than trying to improve weaker players
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2021, 11:22:50 am »
Already waiting for the 'rookie' bs in this tournament.
For someone to say this and then to join with a team full off what most people would qualify as ''not rookies'' is pretty fucking funny.

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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2021, 11:31:47 am »
if you really want to make a tournament for beginners and give weaker teams and players to prove themselves, you need to remove and restrict the access of strong players to the tournament. exclude Akatsuki, the Achilles team, and then it really will be a tournament of weak, third-rate teams - which will be of interest. and so - it makes no sense.
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #126 on: June 30, 2021, 11:48:08 am »
Already waiting for the 'rookie' bs in this tournament.
For someone to say this and then to join with a team full off what most people would qualify as ''not rookies'' is pretty fucking funny.
Hahaha! tbh idc if my team gets rejected or some of them i just wanna play with friends
Also this is the host his fault not mine
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2021, 02:34:42 pm »
Always gonna be one donkey who tries to sign up players who are quite clearly not rookies 🥱

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« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2021, 02:44:20 pm »
Already waiting for the 'rookie' bs in this tournament.
For someone to say this and then to join with a team full off what most people would qualify as ''not rookies'' is pretty fucking funny.
Hahaha! tbh idc if my team gets rejected or some of them i just wanna play with friends
Also this is the host his fault not mine
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Also quick update. In 3-4 weeks I’ll also host a randomised rookie tournament with unicorn and cookie as well. This should be fully balanced as no one team can then have a stack. Making for more interesting gameplay then this tournament
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2021, 05:10:06 pm »
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2021, 05:37:14 pm »
if you really want to make a tournament for beginners and give weaker teams and players to prove themselves, you need to remove and restrict the access of strong players to the tournament. exclude Akatsuki, the Achilles team, and then it really will be a tournament of weak, third-rate teams - which will be of interest. and so - it makes no sense.
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2021, 05:42:15 pm »
Already waiting for the 'rookie' bs in this tournament.
For someone to say this and then to join with a team full off what most people would qualify as ''not rookies'' is pretty fucking funny.
Hahaha! tbh idc if my team gets rejected or some of them i just wanna play with friends
Also this is the host his fault not mine
Not my fault your the scum who wants easy palmares!


Also quick update. In 3-4 weeks I’ll also host a randomised rookie tournament with unicorn and cookie as well. This should be fully balanced as no one team can then have a stack. Making for more interesting gameplay then this tournament
scum? ur just shit
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2021, 05:56:20 pm »
We need a four person jury for this, of which I'll be the main spokesperson. I will announce the other jury members in a few days.
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Re: BCS Tournament | Rookie Tournaments | First series
« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2021, 06:39:15 pm »
We need a four person jury for this, of which I'll be the main spokesperson. I will announce the other jury members in a few days.
My God, there are so many unnecessary commands here .. Just let it play and make a tournament between: - AO (1stODJ)
 - Agents
 (Nr. 13) - LGC (25pp)
 - Isengard (turks from 88th)
 - 5e gf team
 - SF
- NPP-B
 - RF (Skitty's team)
 - 17thL (Benedicts regiment)
 - IV_45e (gontrank team)
 - Nr.59 (B) team
 - Akatsuki, only if (B) team
 - GVT (55th)
- Agility Academy (Tw1sters team)
- 33rd SubV
- 1st_84th (netherland regiment - ask them)
 - LeBruns teams
 - 56e czecz teams
- 17pp masny
- Nr. 9 Katamaranov regiment
Make a tournament among these teams and everything will be fine.