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Your nickname: jakepaulfan
Server & Time (if possible): lol
A short description of the situation: i feel like it's pretty dumb to ban people for what happened outside of mm.
For how long were you banned?: dunno
Who banned you?: dunno
What rules did you break?: none
Why should we unban you?:
because there hasnt been precedent for people getting banned for what they do outside of mm. surely people zeyden or vegi or whoever who says things that are actually against the rules should be banned as well ??
Can’t believe I have to get involved with this shit now as well…
First off you’re generally right that things that happen outside of this board and generally outside of MM are no concern for us. However there are a few things which I feel like MM is sort of involved and where we can’t tolerate such disgusting behaviour. This applies to things such as doxing, cheating, ddosing, personal harassment and generally really disgusting behaviour. I’ve not seen the whole discussion only the initial post and summed up versions of others but I don’t really get why you would joke around on such a serious matter and also issue in the warband scene (not the first person from warband to take his life). Of course a punishment on MM over a few FSE posts is quite harsh and it wasn’t issued by me personally but I would say it wasn't that unjustified. I would say you at least owe the community an apology for what you did although I can’t guarantee for your unban.
Your nickname: jakepaulfan
Server & Time (if possible): lol
A short description of the situation: i feel like it's pretty dumb to ban people for what happened outside of mm.
For how long were you banned?: dunno
Who banned you?: dunno
What rules did you break?: none
Why should we unban you?:
because there hasnt been precedent for people getting banned for what they do outside of mm. surely people zeyden or vegi or whoever who says things that are actually against the rules should be banned as well ??
what did i said ? 
nothing, ever, you're an angel 
However if Janne gets unbanned i will DDoS the whole WBMM & delete permanently log/data files of its poor defense it has.
Do it at your own risk.
@LaPache
seek help
edit:
let's see if you're capable of anything more than empty threats mr. "i'm going to ddos you with my accelerated RAM"
Marxeil had no authority to unban you. Therefor you're banned again.
However if Janne gets unbanned i will DDoS the whole WBMM & delete permanently log/data files of its poor defense it has.
Do it at your own risk.
@LaPache
The fuck? Please get some help. If you manged to steal anything then it is most likely stuff from bullez who isn't even involved in any of this.
I haven't been generally involved in this pointless argument other than deleting a few irrelevant posts on a NWWC thread, but as I have been blindly accused of some stupid shit here's my two cents:
Banning players on WBMM over things that have nothing to do with WBMM sets a bad precedent very and is a slippery slope, regardless of the situation. What precedent has been set for Janne to be banned on WBMM over something that has nothing to do with WBMM?
Has Janne been banned off NWWC, NWBC, or FSE? Has he been cancelled from all tournaments and is he being boycotted?
Is there a specific ruleset for WBMM admins to indiscriminately ban certain players for actions done outside of WBMM, why is he banned? If so where are these and who writes them, what is really disgusting behaviour, who defines this and where is the line drawn?
Then what you have to ask is, why is he banned right now - if there's no precedence for him getting banned over WBMM which has nothing to do with his comment, the why is he being banned? Because most admins fucking despise him and are using this excuse to get him down, and for good reason tbh I've had Janne in my regiment for almost two years and the guys a freak lets be real. Is this all fair though and does this banning abide by the WBMM rules? Short Answer: Nope
Even though Janne's comment was insensitive and out of place, the basic reasoning under his defence has a lot of credence. Why should these WBMM admins who clearly despise Janne, who do and say stupid shit play judge jury and executioner with no precedent when they themselves hold unsavoury views and share these openly? Who's to say Janne should remain banned when every other player who's ever been close to getting cancelled have been given a second chance, for better or for worse. Look at coco, who got banned for 3 days for telling underaged kills to unironically kill themselves on WBMM, isn't that worse surely? Don't those comments cause more harm? And yet Janne has been banned longer than coco after causing a petty small piece of drama that has nothing to with WBMM.
Coco example
sorry coco for dragging you into this but funny sc
Regardless of the imo tame context surrounding Janne's cancellation, this is more about setting a precedent and avoiding that slippery downhill slope. This is by no means me coming in to bat for Janne here as pretty much until today I didn't want to waste my time over a petty argument, I just wanted to point out the obvious hypocrisies and plot holes you'll be riddled with, if you go down this path. @LaPache. I sincerely hope you are not falling for being strong-armed by some admins or even by Muha
So far I mostly spoke with Cookie, Steinmann and Fietta (mostly to hear both sides) There haven't been been many cases before where people got banned for doing things outside of MM. Right now I can only think of Obelix and Grynn and the fact if Janne's comments are also counting as disgusting enough to issue a permaban is at least to be questioned for me. I mostly kept Jannes ban going so far because I wanted to make my mind up about this situation first before having to decide. You also have to keep in mind that Janne has a quite bad history on MM and this isn't really working towards his unban either. Like I said the ban wasn't issued by me and I would have liked it more if I was properly informed about it beforehand. But I can tell you that my decison will not be taken based on the presurre on the admin team as in I can see that the admin team is quit split about this. Also Coco has had a much better history on MM and he actually properly apologized (if I remember correctly).
So far I'm leaning towards unban but I want to discuss it with Bullez and probably Janne personally first.
