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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #615 on: February 18, 2018, 02:21:37 am »
This is the same tournament and rules are rules

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #616 on: February 18, 2018, 02:24:04 am »
It doesn't matter if its new hosts lmao, still the same players with exactly the same tournament...

They don't let people out of prison when a new warden arrives, they still committed a crime..
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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #617 on: February 18, 2018, 02:28:24 am »
Tbh saying that it doesn’t matter unless you’re competing for 1-3 is like saying rules should never be enforced in the World Cup until the semi finals. It’s a ridiculous statement. Nothing can be valid unless the rule set is enforced with consistency.

I'm not saying that rules shouldn't be enforced till the semis final, merely that we cannot expect new hosts of practically a new tourney to perm ban a team for something that happened in the past, especially when it was delt with and a punishment was implemented quite early on last time.

 

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #618 on: February 18, 2018, 02:28:39 am »
NEW RULE: THIS IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION

All teams will be required to give the teamspeak they are using, and must give access to the Referee and/or organisers when a match commences, they will sit in the AFK channel unless needed.

Once again, this is not optional.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #619 on: February 18, 2018, 02:30:23 am »
NEW RULE: THIS IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION

All teams will be required to give teamspeak access to the Referee and/or organisers when a match commences, they will sit in the AFK channel unless needed.

Once again, this is not optional.

or just enforce ID checks?...
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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #620 on: February 18, 2018, 02:30:31 am »
Tbh saying that it doesn’t matter unless you’re competing for 1-3 is like saying rules should never be enforced in the World Cup until the semi finals. It’s a ridiculous statement. Nothing can be valid unless the rule set is enforced with consistency.

I'm not saying that rules shouldn't be enforced till the semis final, merely that we cannot expect new hosts of practically a new tourney to perm ban a team for something that happened in the past, especially when it was delt with and a punishment was implemented quite early on last time.
It’s still the same tournament...just because they’re different hosts that doesn’t change the fact that this has been held for years. A rule was broken, a punishment should be enacted.

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #621 on: February 18, 2018, 02:31:23 am »

Surely people shouldn't be getting upset over these sort of things unless it cost them a 1-3 place in the tourney cus are they not the only positions that matter ?
Nobody likes being cheated on, i'm sure you'd complain if you were in our situation. That's just sad you can't see the point of it.

I can see why ur upset I just don't fully understand why it should carry over to a brand new format for what is essentially a different tourney with the same name I think that the Cpts of Ukr from last year should be punished but I don't think that the whole team should be banned, that's a bit extreme. All i'm trying to say is that I don't think it fair that you can carry something over so heavily from a previous year to new hosts when it didn't really even change the outcome of the previous games.
So what are these rules made for? It is stated 'no invites". Maybe baninng whole team is too harsh, but captains without a doubt are guilty for bringing invites and they still haven't been punished since then. They agreed to respect the rules.
Why do i think we should carry it over? Because NWWC otherwise would become a joke where you can bring invites, break rules without any consequences. I'm done here and not going to carry on this such interesting conversation.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #622 on: February 18, 2018, 02:32:11 am »
NEW RULE: THIS IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION

All teams will be required to give teamspeak access to the Referee and/or organisers when a match commences, they will sit in the AFK channel unless needed.

Once again, this is not optional.

or just enforce ID checks?...

ID checks will be enforced...otherwise why would i be asking for ID in the application?  Still doesn't stop people for using fake accounts under fake names. Just another precaution. Thought you would be happy about it :)

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #623 on: February 18, 2018, 02:34:22 am »
I mean that makes sense. Reff should sit in both teamspeaks and check the rosters etc. before starting.

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #624 on: February 18, 2018, 02:36:11 am »

Surely people shouldn't be getting upset over these sort of things unless it cost them a 1-3 place in the tourney cus are they not the only positions that matter ?
Nobody likes being cheated on, i'm sure you'd complain if you were in our situation. That's just sad you can't see the point of it.

I can see why ur upset I just don't fully understand why it should carry over to a brand new format for what is essentially a different tourney with the same name I think that the Cpts of Ukr from last year should be punished but I don't think that the whole team should be banned, that's a bit extreme. All i'm trying to say is that I don't think it fair that you can carry something over so heavily from a previous year to new hosts when it didn't really even change the outcome of the previous games.
So what are these rules made for? It is stated 'no invites". Maybe bannig whole team is too harsh, but captains without a doubt are guilty for bringing invites and they still haven't been punished since then. They agreed to respect the rules.
Why do i think we should carry it over? Because NWWC otherwise would become a joke where you can bring invites, break rules without any consequences. I'm done here and not going to carry on this such interesting conversation.

Vortx. Me and you have had a thorough conversation about this on steam, i insist we drop this subject, as i am already working on some form of resolution and consequence, thank you.

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #625 on: February 18, 2018, 02:37:01 am »
they were banned last year, what possible team would want to do it again knowing that with all these rules are in place, and people are aware that there might be cheaters now. They would most likely be caught straight away and would be banned, who's in it not to win it, they would never win so it won't happen again.

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #626 on: February 18, 2018, 02:39:52 am »
We've been asked to drop it and I think we said all we need so I take my leave ^

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #627 on: February 18, 2018, 02:49:46 am »
its like letting movement's regiment play in RGL, that went well innit

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #628 on: February 18, 2018, 02:51:13 am »
Letting rule breakers into the tournament is like selecting a map with hills against the 18e

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Re: Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018 [Still in progress][Open]
« Reply #629 on: February 18, 2018, 02:57:59 am »
We've been asked to drop it and I think we said all we need so I take my leave ^

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