♞ Napoleonic Wars Cavalry Nations Cup 2017 ♞ [ESP 1st ; GER 2nd, POL 3rd]

[BrokenCrayon]

You be nice, Harfy

The lancer debate is interesting, if unsurprising. What is surprising is the result of the vote, I fully expected everyone to vote no. Kudos to everyone who voted yes! I look forward to facing you all in the tournament.

As Erik has noted there are checks and balances to each class. Lancers have great reach and couching is a powerful weapon. To counter that, our horses are slower and we do not have the ability to block. Hussars can outrun us, and if they have a numerical superiority, can lock us into a stop and an inevitable death. A good hussar - an actually good hussar - will have no trouble dealing with the best of lancers. There are hussars who destroy me on a daily basis, and while I would only consider myself a half-decent lancer (probably even only half a lancer since I don't couch if I can help it!), I get destroyed on a daily basis by hussars and I've seen it happen to all the great lancers I know.

Instead of screaming about broken classes (c'mon, this is M&B, there are so many things wrong and broken with it we've probably not even gotten to the bottom of that list), play against lancers and learn how to counter them. When I face the best hussars on the field and get annihilated by them every time, I don't bitch about it. I love it when that happens, as frustrating as it can get, because it's the best way for me to learn. When I face a powerful opponent I make that opponent my target as much as I can. The best never complain they're facing a lancer, never cry out the perennial "noob class" or "lancer cancer" insults, they engage with us happily and we get a real fight going.

These are some of the best moments in M&B for me, and I've been playing since alpha .400 of the original, way back in 2002-2003, I think. Sure it's great to see your name at the top of the scoreboard, but it's greater still to face an opponent of equal or greater skill and learn from them. I don't know about lancers being cowards and running away - I know I don't. I always gleefully charge at the opposing team, especially where the knot of enemies are thickest. I suppose the reputation comes from many people new to the game picking the lancer class and being terrible at it. Of the lancers I play with in tournaments, I would call none cowards. I will say that, focusing on enemy lancers whenever they appear, many players with names I don't recognise (and thus, possibly "noobs") do often tend to run away from me, so perhaps there is some truth to the claim... but not for the regulars. Not in the least, not in my experience.

There's a lot of salt in here. I thought for a moment that people might be happy to see some variety brought into the melee tournament, but maybe not. I guess there's nothing that needs to be said that already hasn't. I know a lot of players don't do well against lancers... though this will annoy Diarmuid, I can say there will at least be one lancer who won't use the couch to take you down from your horse (only on grounded opponents when we need to move things along). The reason I expected the vote to go against us is because it's obvious that a lot of people are worried. And... you know what?

They should be

You'll couch god dammit

[Azhrei]

You'll couch god dammit

I'll couch grounded opponents when we're running out of time, and even then, only under duress

[Erik le Rouge]

Here are the two groups of the 2017 Cavalry Nations Cup :

Group A :

Group B :

Two teams will qualify from each group at the end of the group stage of the tournament. The final stage will then begin, with two semi-finals being played, a bronze match between the losers of the semi-finals to compete for the third place, and the final match to decide of the champion.

Thank you for reading.

[Erik le Rouge]

Double post, sorry about that.

Here is the map we will be using this year!

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I will add it to the main post.

A server is already up: CavNationsCup_1. The pass to join it is : winter
If any team wants to join it to have a training or a friendly match, they may.

The other servers will be up later tonight or tomorrow.

[Dokletian]

Cool stuff!

What happened to the old map though?

[Harford]

ded
and much better like that tbf since the last one had a massive hill at the spawn

[Rastignac]

Noice map, so unique and elaborate, will make the experience even more special and help us get immersed into the world of napoleonic battles, the times when Austria, Russia, France etc. fought all over the flat Sahara desert.

[Graf_Maximus]

Double post, sorry about that.

Here is the map we will be using this year!

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I will add it to the main post.

A server is already up: CavNationsCup_1. The pass to join it is : winter
If any team wants to join it to have a training or a friendly match, they may.

The other servers will be up later tonight or tomorrow.

winter is coming xD

[Elias]

One question: Is the Cpt of Ireland going to play as ranker or as officer because i think this could make an difference

[CokeTail]

Application for Referee
Your Name: CokeTail
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/CokeTailFRA
Why you should be Referee: Because i want to get involved in this CNC without playing

[BrokenCrayon]

One question: Is the Cpt of Ireland going to play as ranker or as officer because i think this could make an difference

Officer

[StephanGH]

BeNeLux Roster:

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Unit: Hussar
Captain: StephanGH
Vice-Captain: Clausewitz

1. StephanGH (NL)
2. Clausewitz (NL)
3. Lio (BE)
4. FreyrDS (BE)
5. Rhealder (BE)
6. Caulaincourt (BE)
7. Advide (BE)
8. Gio (BE)
9. Ciiges (NL)
10. Frank (NL)
11. Ghosts (NL)
12. Kane (NL)
13. Calvet (NL)
14. Northern (NL)
15. PyrosZ (NL)
16. Jan_Struyvenzandt (NL)
17. Gurai (NL)
18. Maxxxio (NL)
19. Zulu (NL)
20. Arjen (NL)

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No one here to defend Luxembourgs honor :3?

[Dokletian]

Nice match FRA, very well played!

The german team so far:

Class: Hussars

1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
18. Voland
19. dan1
20. R1CHARD

One slot will be added as soon as possible.

[Erik le Rouge]

Thanks Dokletian, it was an excellent friendly match. Good luck with the rest of your preparation!

I will add the first teams that posted their roster on the main post very soon. I'm hoping tomorrow.

[von~Jungingen]

Application for Team Player,
Your Name:                                          von~Jungingen
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/von_Jungingen
Your Nation:                                         Ireland