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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #765 on: February 25, 2018, 03:32:33 pm »
The EUs first mistake was letting us have a section the last 10+ pages have just been NA Salt with the occasional Kore, Pierce, or John Price post.
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you have such a basic style/skillset
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« Reply #766 on: February 25, 2018, 03:35:28 pm »
I mean, Dueling is relevant but it doesn't show if you have teamwork etc. Dueling will only be relevant in 2v2's, 3v3's and maybe 5v5 tourneys.
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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #767 on: February 25, 2018, 03:39:43 pm »
I hope it's clear I mean duel tournaments and random FT7s, not within a small GF match context. Winning duels within a GF is the least consistent way of ensuring a win, but yes it does count for some sort of time-pressed raw skill. However within duel tournaments or whatever, it is the most one-dimensional style of a patience contest, and doesn't really indicate anything since you have no other circumstances or context to the fight.

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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #768 on: February 25, 2018, 04:03:33 pm »
I mean, Dueling is relevant but it doesn't show if you have teamwork etc. Dueling will only be relevant in 2v2's, 3v3's and maybe 5v5 tourneys.

Dueling gives a pretty good idea how well someone understands the mechanics of the game and how well they can apply them.

Groupfighting shows how well you can work with others and handle a variety of different circumstances (like being outnumbered).


They each have criteria that are necessary for judging a players skill, and to pretend one is more important than the other (not saying you're saying this, just in general) is ridiculous.


I hope it's clear I mean duel tournaments and random FT7s, not within a small GF match context. Winning duels within a GF is the least consistent way of ensuring a win, but yes it does count for some sort of time-pressed raw skill. However within duel tournaments or whatever, it is the most one-dimensional style of a patience contest, and doesn't really indicate anything since you have no other circumstances or context to the fight.

That entirely depends on who you fight. Yes sometimes it is just a match of patience and in that case, yes it can be disregarded as a skill indicator. But from my own dueling experience (mostly on NA, but some EU too) that's rarely the case, and it's mostly just a select few individuals who hardcore s-key and do other desperate tactics like that to drag it out and turn it into a patience match.





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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #769 on: February 25, 2018, 04:09:36 pm »
I mean, Dueling is relevant but it doesn't show if you have teamwork etc. Dueling will only be relevant in 2v2's, 3v3's and maybe 5v5 tourneys.

Dueling gives a pretty good idea how well someone understands the mechanics of the game and how well they can apply them.

Groupfighting shows how well you can work with others and handle a variety of different circumstances (like being outnumbered).


They each have criteria that are necessary for judging a players skill, and to pretend one is more important than the other (not saying you're saying this, just in general) is ridiculous.


I hope it's clear I mean duel tournaments and random FT7s, not within a small GF match context. Winning duels within a GF is the least consistent way of ensuring a win, but yes it does count for some sort of time-pressed raw skill. However within duel tournaments or whatever, it is the most one-dimensional style of a patience contest, and doesn't really indicate anything since you have no other circumstances or context to the fight.

That entirely depends on who you fight. Yes sometimes it is just a match of patience and in that case, yes it can be disregarded as a skill indicator. But from my own dueling experience (mostly on NA, but some EU too) that's rarely the case, and it's mostly just a select few individuals who hardcore s-key and do other desperate tactics like that to drag it out and turn it into a patience match.
Could be, I guess that's why our view of it is as such in EU because our highest tier duelers here are precisely doing it in a very stationary way where you will not get a chance to judge feinting skill, chambers, kicks or holds because it turns into an up down standing block competition (sometimes you don't even get the downstab aspect). I hope NA has a better and more lively scene for duels in that case - from what I hear you probably do.

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« Reply #770 on: February 25, 2018, 04:47:25 pm »
I find the differences in the two communities an interesting case study in the differences of the EU and NA Mindset. So far I think we can clearly say that NAs tend to have inflated egos.
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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #771 on: February 25, 2018, 04:49:32 pm »
I find the differences in the two communities an interesting case study in the differences of the EU and NA Mindset. So far I think we can clearly say that NAs tend to have inflated egos.
Not really we just have different forms of retardation
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« Reply #772 on: February 25, 2018, 05:18:32 pm »
Hahaha that NA list. Good meme.

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« Reply #773 on: February 25, 2018, 05:20:00 pm »
@Babyj you seem to care a lot about both lists while not having been active in ages, makes me think.
Maccle is like one week away from dropping due to inactivity.
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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #774 on: February 25, 2018, 05:21:54 pm »
Hahaha that NA list. Good meme.
Hey thanks for the suggestion

@Babyj you seem to care a lot about both lists while not having been active in ages, makes me think.
Maccle is like one week away from dropping due to inactivity.
This is why you don’t let Americans do anything.
Ok
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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #775 on: February 25, 2018, 05:54:08 pm »
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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #776 on: February 25, 2018, 05:57:52 pm »
Haven't you seen Risk's kick? Probably at least 96p tbhhhh
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« Reply #777 on: February 25, 2018, 06:29:34 pm »
@Babyj you seem to care a lot about both lists while not having been active in ages, makes me think.
Maccle is like one week away from dropping due to inactivity.
This is why you don’t let Americans do anything.
why should i drop? i still patrol the forums that should be enough to be a 91 rated
shouldnt hellomoto drop he hasnt launched the game for 3 years
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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #778 on: February 25, 2018, 06:34:24 pm »
Hellomoto is still semi-active lol


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Re: M. Points | Winter Update / NA lists added
« Reply #779 on: February 25, 2018, 07:04:49 pm »
I find the differences in the two communities an interesting case study in the differences of the EU and NA Mindset. So far I think we can clearly say that NAs tend to have inflated egos.

Ye, no EU's have inflated egos, obviously.