NWWC 2017

[Hertz]

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

But you did have NIFU playing for you. You could have done something about that?

[Frittentime]

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

But you did have NIFU playing for you. You could have done something about that?

[bobertini]

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

As Cpt of Ukraine you had full say? You knew the server, password and day lol.

[Jazzer]

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

Or maybe refrain posting in an attempt to avoid backlash that you're clearly getting. If you were considerate enough to participate in the tournament accordingly to rules you would have done something about it. Trying to defend yourself when no one asks you to and trying to push the blame on a captain instead? Way to go.

[Ambiguous]

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

But you did have NIFU playing for you. You could have done something about that?

Lets look at the implications of me going public about NIFU playing for us. If I did that I would have most likely been kicked from the team myself, and then not allowed to play whatsoever. I don't think you would have done that Hertz.

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

As Cpt of Ukraine you had full say? You knew the server, password and day lol.

I am not one of the Co-Captains? I am just a player and didn't have any say in how the team was organized.

Don't attribute the shady actions of Team Ukraine to its players as we didn't have any say in these kinds of things, the people to blame aren't the players.

Or maybe refrain posting in an attempt to avoid backlash that you're clearly getting. If you were considerate enough to participate in the tournament accordingly to rules you would have done something about it. Trying to defend yourself when no one asks you to and trying to push the blame on a captain instead? Way to go.

Why would I receive backlash? I didn't invite NIFU to play for team Ukraine, I am sure you all can guess who that was.

[Bob_The_Drunken_Villager]

Sorry to interrupt but, Ukrainians had Nifu playing for them during their match with GB? Is that right?

If that is the case

Shouldn't it have been the fault of the guy who invited Nifu to play,
Everyone that directly knew about it and did nothing against it,
And Nifu himself for accepting the invitation?

[close]

[Ambiguous]

Sorry to interrupt but, Ukrainians had Nifu playing for them during their match with GB? Is that right?

If that is the case

Shouldn't it have been the fault of the guy who invited Nifu to play,
Everyone that directly knew about it and did nothing against it,
And Nifu himself for accepting the invitation?

[close]

You are right about 1 and 3, however with 2 it's a bit more complicated. The consequences to someone who would have revealed such information would have been grave and it would have not been worth exposing someone for wrongdoing to just have that person be removed from the team.

[Bob_The_Drunken_Villager]

Why would a guy, who reveals rulebreaking, have consequences? I think all he would get is a little bit of hate from the rulebreaking guys, but from everyone else praise for how honest he is. Or am I wrong here?

[Kore]

Sorry to interrupt but, Ukrainians had Nifu playing for them during their match with GB? Is that right?

If that is the case

Shouldn't it have been the fault of the guy who invited Nifu to play,
Everyone that directly knew about it and did nothing against it,
And Nifu himself for accepting the invitation?

[close]

You are right about 1 and 3, however with 2 it's a bit more complicated. The consequences to someone who would have revealed such information would have been grave and it would have not been worth exposing someone for wrongdoing to just have that person be removed from the team.

Bullshit

[Nero_]

Why would a guy, who reveals rulebreaking, have consequences? I think all he would get is a little bit of hate from the rulebreaking guys, but from everyone else praise for how honest he is. Or am I wrong here?

you're goddamn right

[Golden.]

Sorry to interrupt but, Ukrainians had Nifu playing for them during their match with GB? Is that right?

If that is the case

Shouldn't it have been the fault of the guy who invited Nifu to play,
Everyone that directly knew about it and did nothing against it,
And Nifu himself for accepting the invitation?

[close]

You are right about 1 and 3, however with 2 it's a bit more complicated. The consequences to someone who would have revealed such information would have been grave and it would have not been worth exposing someone for wrongdoing to just have that person be removed from the team.

That is a load of wack Ukraine you had Alucard playing for you earlier in the tournament as well. Then you have the balls to invite NIFU what a joke... So bullshit that you even went through group stages..

[Ambiguous]

Sorry to interrupt but, Ukrainians had Nifu playing for them during their match with GB? Is that right?

If that is the case

Shouldn't it have been the fault of the guy who invited Nifu to play,
Everyone that directly knew about it and did nothing against it,
And Nifu himself for accepting the invitation?

[close]

You are right about 1 and 3, however with 2 it's a bit more complicated. The consequences to someone who would have revealed such information would have been grave and it would have not been worth exposing someone for wrongdoing to just have that person be removed from the team.

That is a load of wack Ukraine you had Alucard playing for you earlier in the tournament as well. Then you have the balls to invite NIFU what a joke... So bullshit that you even went through group stages..

I did not invite Alucard or NIFU and was against it the entire time, but in this scenario I was unable to do anything to change that. If you have any questions then direct them to our team captains MarxeiL and Desant.

Edit. Why the fuck are you all acting like white knights here? None of you shits would have spoken out because you would have been afraid to lose your spot to play in this NWWC, much like I was.

[Golden.]

Sorry to interrupt but, Ukrainians had Nifu playing for them during their match with GB? Is that right?

If that is the case

Shouldn't it have been the fault of the guy who invited Nifu to play,
Everyone that directly knew about it and did nothing against it,
And Nifu himself for accepting the invitation?

[close]

You are right about 1 and 3, however with 2 it's a bit more complicated. The consequences to someone who would have revealed such information would have been grave and it would have not been worth exposing someone for wrongdoing to just have that person be removed from the team.

That is a load of wack Ukraine you had Alucard playing for you earlier in the tournament as well. Then you have the balls to invite NIFU what a joke... So bullshit that you even went through group stages..

I did not invite Alucard or NIFU and was against it the entire time, but in this scenario I was unable to do anything to change that. If you have any questions then direct them to our team captains MarxeiL and Desant.

Edit. Why the fuck are you all acting like white knights here? None of you shits would have spoken out because you would have been afraid to lose your spot to play in this NWWC, much like I was.

Why would a guy, who reveals rulebreaking, have consequences? I think all he would get is a little bit of hate from the rulebreaking guys, but from everyone else praise for how honest he is. Or am I wrong here?

[Theodin]

My question is, how did you figure this out? Did you get a tip from someone after or did you check the logs against another set of data? Because if you got a tip, then you can assign blame inside the team or not

[RebelliouS]

My question is, how did you figure this out? Did you get a tip from someone after or did you check the logs against another set of data? Because if you got a tip, then you can assign blame inside the team or not

After Alucard incident they probably checked IDs this time , and Its not really hard to detect some1 not being ukranian because normally from Ukraine you can get lowest ping like let say 38-40 ish to french server NIFU gets like 20-22 afaik . So thats like one of the easiest way to detect those kinda attempts also your thinking is wrong Dan If you think snitching the information out would get you out of the team is bs and you know it . You could just steam pm what they were trying to do over steam and remain silent in the teamspeak nobody would have know that it was you in the first place also you would say to Caz or whatever referee was refereing that match to dont mention about someone giving that information to him , rather him finding it out from IDs and such - problem solved - .