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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2013, 12:02:11 am »
i know no one beats usa in the war business but it is not a thing to be proud of.
i mean each year usa spends over a trillions dollars to the military and only a few million for space pioneering
True, but we've deemed ourselves as the world police.

Honestly, I think China could win a war with US. Simply from computer hacking. They've hacked our businesses, stolen our technology and sales information, hell some hacker even hacked a security business; they can just find out our plans and crush us with that knowledge.   

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2013, 12:31:01 am »
So china could win because they can computer hack?

*Korea 2019*

*Sir we are ready to take the Chinese positions!*
*Sorry son Command says to abort the mission because the Chinese hacked our tanks*

*Defeat*
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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2013, 12:47:59 am »
True, but we've deemed ourselves as the world police.
Meaarghh! Get off my lawn stupid poliz fokes, i don't need no poliz!

Anyway, I think the US should spend more on space programs, so should everyone.


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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2013, 01:34:43 am »
So china could win because they can computer hack?

*Korea 2019*

*Sir we are ready to take the Chinese positions!*
*Sorry son Command says to abort the mission because the Chinese hacked our tanks*

*Defeat*
Well thats more advanced, but they could hack our message codes, like "sink Chinese destroyer now with that sub. we got" and the Chinese just use their own sub or ship to destroy that sub. They can take our commands and such and use it against us.


True, but we've deemed ourselves as the world police.
Meaarghh! Get off my lawn stupid poliz fokes, i don't need no poliz!

Anyway, I think the US should spend more on space programs, so should everyone.
Space is silly and costs money. We've already got enough space programs.

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2013, 02:14:37 am »
America + Politics + The internet = Bad stuff happens

Also, Millander's "Operation Y.O.L.O." made me laugh.

Oh and one more thing, in an "Operation Y.O.L.O." type scenario it would be nearly impossible for the US to hold the areas it would gain. Due to partisan activity and the like. And with a good amount of its forces at the front, it would be harder to put down rebellions and things. It would eventually have to resort to conscripting/drafting (instead of just taking volunteers) "foreigners" into the military, and they would likely be much less enthusiastic about fighting, especially for the "enemy".
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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2013, 02:45:58 am »
I think USA would win over any country 1 v 1 , the only countires causing problem would be countires with high nationalism or countires with huge armies t (Russia, China, Inda), but USA would most proably still win

Russia's army is only around 320,000, 9 other countries in front of them in terms of military size, from biggest to largest armies are China, India, North Korea, South Korea, Pakistan, USA, Vietnam, Turkey Iraq, Russia.  Biggest army is China with 1.6million, USA has around half a million.  Btw these figures do not include the amount of men/women that would be drafted, just the current army. so yea..

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2013, 05:45:18 am »
If all that *crap* you said gonna happen. No worries, Iron Brigade will rule the world.

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either will works.
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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2013, 07:43:26 am »
If all that *crap* you said gonna happen. No worries, Iron Brigade will rule the world.

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Or

either will works.
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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2013, 03:44:43 pm »
I honestly do not believe that a war against Europe is a winnable scenario for the US. It would be nearly impossible for the US military to defeat the militaries of the UK, France, Belgium, and Germany. And that's not even mentioning if other nations join in and not to mention the factor of partisans conducting guerrilla warfare. Many of the European armies - although smaller and less funded - are extremely professional and do a damn good job at what they do. A large part of the American military can not say the same. Look at the job France is doing in Mali, they've driven the Islamist forces nearly out of the country and it hasn't even been half of a year since they went in. It took the US 10 years to "accomplish" their goals in Afghanistan.

European nations may spend less on their armies but they spend that money in the right places. Into advanced and highly effective firearms and training their soldiers to be professional and highly self-sufficient. There's a reason why American soldiers are now being given calculators... This is not to say that all American military service members are idiots. I have the utmost respect for American special forces, pilots, and the marines because they are self sufficient, highly capable soldiers who know what they are doing. My brother-in-law was in the Marines and fought in Iraq (including the attack on Fallujah) and he clearly remembers several Army soldiers who did not even know how to fire their weapon... It was an m240... a weapon that doesn't even have a safety...

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2013, 06:05:44 pm »
I think USA would win over any country 1 v 1 , the only countires causing problem would be countires with high nationalism or countires with huge armies t (Russia, China, Inda), but USA would most proably still win

Russia's army is only around 320,000, 9 other countries in front of them in terms of military size, from biggest to largest armies are China, India, North Korea, South Korea, Pakistan, USA, Vietnam, Turkey Iraq, Russia.  Biggest army is China with 1.6million, USA has around half a million.  Btw these figures do not include the amount of men/women that would be drafted, just the current army. so yea..

Bro, im not sure your facts are right. You listed these countires wrong and USA has 3 million active personell while China has around 2.3 and India with 2 million or something around there.

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2013, 06:54:37 pm »
I honestly do not believe that a war against Europe is a winnable scenario for the US. It would be nearly impossible for the US military to defeat the militaries of the UK, France, Belgium, and Germany. And that's not even mentioning if other nations join in and not to mention the factor of partisans conducting guerrilla warfare. Many of the European armies - although smaller and less funded - are extremely professional and do a damn good job at what they do. A large part of the American military can not say the same. Look at the job France is doing in Mali, they've driven the Islamist forces nearly out of the country and it hasn't even been half of a year since they went in. It took the US 10 years to "accomplish" their goals in Afghanistan.

European nations may spend less on their armies but they spend that money in the right places. Into advanced and highly effective firearms and training their soldiers to be professional and highly self-sufficient. There's a reason why American soldiers are now being given calculators... This is not to say that all American military service members are idiots. I have the utmost respect for American special forces, pilots, and the marines because they are self sufficient, highly capable soldiers who know what they are doing. My brother-in-law was in the Marines and fought in Iraq (including the attack on Fallujah) and he clearly remembers several Army soldiers who did not even know how to fire their weapon... It was an m240... a weapon that doesn't even have a safety...

I like how you put Belgium in there.

Once again, assuming no nukes are in play, you can have all the partisans you want. They are no match for F-22's and Tomahawk Cruise missiles.

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2013, 07:04:24 pm »
Hey! Belgium just got f-35's  :P

And by the way countries will never use nukes because they are useless.
If you want to expand it is useless because you can't enter the lands for half a century.
And slaughtering the population isn't going to benefit in anyway.
The use of having nuclear weapons is so they won't get used against you. It's a preventing tool.

By the way I think future wars will be about blue gold
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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2013, 07:05:09 pm »
I like how you put Belgium in there.
Doesn't he always? It's his personal trademark! Like I like to spam Waterloo crap in every thread.


Once again, assuming no nukes are in play, you can have all the partisans you want. They are no match for F-22's and Tomahawk Cruise missiles.

Yeah..well...You're wrong there. That's the bad thing about Partisans, you see. They hide, run, mix in with the 'locals'. They are not a strong enemy, but neither are they easily destroyable...

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2013, 07:08:16 pm »
I think USA would win over any country 1 v 1 , the only countires causing problem would be countires with high nationalism or countires with huge armies t (Russia, China, Inda), but USA would most proably still win

Russia's army is only around 320,000, 9 other countries in front of them in terms of military size, from biggest to largest armies are China, India, North Korea, South Korea, Pakistan, USA, Vietnam, Turkey Iraq, Russia.  Biggest army is China with 1.6million, USA has around half a million.  Btw these figures do not include the amount of men/women that would be drafted, just the current army. so yea..

Bro, im not sure your facts are right. You listed these countires wrong and USA has 3 million active personell while China has around 2.3 and India with 2 million or something around there.
Believe me when I say that China has more military personel than USA.

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Re: United States vs Great Britian? [Documentry]
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2013, 07:14:24 pm »
Hey! Belgium just got f-35's  :P

And by the way countries will never use nukes because they are useless.
If you want to expand it is useless because you can't enter the lands for half a century.
And slaughtering the population isn't going to benefit in anyway.
The use of having nuclear weapons is so they won't get used against you. It's a preventing tool.

By the way I think future wars will be about blue gold
Spoiler
water
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War's of territorial expansion is rare nowadays. The reason nukes are both useless, and the best invention ever, is because they can't be used without very large chances of you finding yourself nuked.





I like how you put Belgium in there.
Doesn't he always? It's his personal trademark! Like I like to spam Waterloo crap in every thread.


Once again, assuming no nukes are in play, you can have all the partisans you want. They are no match for F-22's and Tomahawk Cruise missiles.

Yeah..well...You're wrong there. That's the bad thing about Partisans, you see. They hide, run, mix in with the 'locals'. They are not a strong enemy, but neither are they easily destroyable...

Granted, I dont think the US would launch bombing raids into the suburbs of London, or Paris, or Brussels ( You happy now?  ;)) But seeing how easý it would be for the US to establish naval and air dominance, tactical strikes would probably ensure.

When power, water and supplies gets short, it is likely to assume the civilian populace will want the war to end. Interior pressure and Super-carriers at your shores will probably ensure most governments sue for peace quickly.