Napoleonic Wars League - 8th Season

[Toffee]

Probably because bannerlord is expected pretty soon

[DasBrot]

I will continue to host NWL seasons until Bannerlords comes out. When there is some NW mod for bannerlords, NWL will continue in Bannerlords.

[DasBrot]

Official NWL Servers are: NWL_1, NWL_2, NWL_3, NWL_6, NWL_7. Admin pass is issued to every referee by Wüstenfuchs. No admin passes to regimental leaders.

[Clikenforce]

Ingame - Name: IVe_45e_Sdt_Clikenforce
Regiment: 45e Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne
Steam Link: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198063037220/
Admin experience, references: NWL referee one season, admining 23e events, Linebattles and gf's. Also former GF admin
Former NWL ref? yes

[Mr_Etherton]

begs people stop saying 'depends on bannerlords' its not coming out for a year or more ffs. If we are lucky they will have a playable alpha out spring 2017, if we are lucky full release winter 2017/spring 2018 and it will be native, then you got another year before a decent nw mod is made if not more. You guys be expecting too much

[John Price]

If you weren't so narrow minded you might understand that the reason people want to wait on bannerlord is because there is more opportunity. Not because we expect Napoleonic Wars 2 to be out instantaneously.

18e itself will be hosting a siege and a shieldbattle on a weekly basis as well as sticking with 2 NW events we hope

[Munj]

Can the organisers clarify rule 15. specifically how this rule will be enforced and what the consequences are. I've already seen regiments using inactive members or people who only play NWL matches, so some clarification would be nice.

[Herishey]

Can the organisers clarify rule 15. specifically how this rule will be enforced and what the consequences are. I've already seen regiments using inactive members or people who only play NWL matches, so some clarification would be nice.

I've always thought the whole NWL matches only rule was stupid since I know plenty of 6te and members from every other regiment just about in league 1, 2 or 3 that do that, so I'll leave this one to Brot.

[Munj]

I've always thought the whole NWL matches only rule was stupid since I know plenty of 6te and members from every other regiment just about in league 1, 2 or 3 that do that, so I'll leave this one to Brot.

I see sense in the rule because people who only show up for NWLs are as good as invites. That being said there is not real way of enforcing this other than acting on here say, so it is probably best to  l either scrap it or modify the rule to something easier to enforce.

[DasBrot]

So you guys think that "members who only show up for NWL matches" can be cut out because noone cares anyways?

[Toffee]

Members of regiments who only turn up for NWL are still members of a regiment. Someone may simply enjoy the competitive environment or have a schedule that only fits to certain times when a regiment plays their NWL games. We can't cut them out because of this. If a football player only plays for his team in champions league games, should he be banned from playing these games until he plays more time in his domestic league? Of course not. It's too harsh to force someone to turn up for more events than they might be willing to in an amateur league. By all means, keep the no invites rule as it is fair, keeps competitive integrity and is a lot easier to enforce with beginning of season player registration, if the organizers wished (although registration is unneeded since everyone knows everyone tbh and what regiment they are in).

[Herishey]

Members of regiments who only turn up for NWL are still members of a regiment. Someone may simply enjoy the competitive environment or have a schedule that only fits to certain times when a regiment plays their NWL games. We can't cut them out because of this. If a football player only plays for his team in champions league games, should he be banned from playing these games until he plays more time in his domestic league? Of course not. It's too harsh to force someone to turn up for more events than they might be willing to in an amateur league. By all means, keep the no invites rule as it is fair, keeps competitive integrity and is a lot easier to enforce with beginning of season player registration, if the organizers wished (although registration is unneeded since everyone knows everyone tbh and what regiment they are in).

I used to only play on Sundays which is usually NWL just due to the fact it was the only day I had time before when I started full time work among other new shit so I agree with what you say tbh.

[Munj]

So you guys think that "members who only show up for NWL matches" can be cut out because noone cares anyways?

As Herishey and Toffee had already stated, people have different reasons for only showing up for NWLs, some are fair enough (e.g. work commitments) and others aren't. Ultimately it would simply be too difficult and impractical to determine what is a valid reason or not, whether someone is being truthful or not and finding out who was even doing it in the first place would be next to impossible without a mass co-operation by all 30+ regiments in the various Leagues. So basically it is probably easier to drop the rule rather than leave it there as a salt mine for people to tap into when they lose a match and suddenly feel that the one random player who only turns up once a month is the cause of their tragic loss (when in actuality they're just shit).

Also the NWL remains the most reputable tournament in the game and whilst it is important to keep it as strict and competitive as possible, when the rules defeat practicality it actually reduces from the good nature of the tournament.

[Abekrampe]

So you guys think that "members who only show up for NWL matches" can be cut out because noone cares anyways?

Yes.

Invites =/= Reserves, give the old and the inactive members the dignity of being able to contribute to their regiments.

[Spoons]

So you guys think that "members who only show up for NWL matches" can be cut out because noone cares anyways?

Yes.

Invites =/= Reserves, give the old and the inactive members the dignity of being able to contribute to their regiments.

Being under the assumption that this rule is in place to combat reg-hoppers -

I agree that Reserves (commonly formerly very active / veteran members of a regiment) only turning up for NWL matches isn't an issue, many of them having far less time or interest in the game, however having proven their loyalty to that particular regiment. However I don't believe that members who are relatively new to a regiment, who just join for NWL and do not interact with the rest of the regiment should be allowed to play under this rule, often only staying for a single season or several matches. Regiments that do this are basically giving invites a rank so that they can win with false strength.

 A season or two back we had personal experience with this, allowing stark and herishey in the 33rd we thought great, two good players to join our community. however after attending 1 or 2 normal events they wished to be in reserves and only play in NWL, not even interacting with our members outside of these matches. We (myself and st3fan) decided that we would rather lose fairly as the 33rd than win with fake members which is why I am very glad to see this rule. It may be hard to enforce but it at least adds a moral code for regiments.