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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2013, 07:22:21 pm »
A CdB does the job of a british lieutenant colonel, the french do not have an equivalent for what a british major does and the british do not have an equivalent for what a french major does, quite simple really. Colonel en second would be the same thing as a french major, and the title is more describing of what the job of a french major entails.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2013, 08:54:10 pm »
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To restate what I said in the other thread:

I wish to register twocomplaints!

First of all, the UK cavalry NCO-ranks should be the same as for the infantry, the only ones to use Corporal of Horse and the variations thereof were the household cavalry.

Secondly, the translation/explanation of CdB for the French should be liuetenant colonel, because they had thesame job; leading batallions.

(Major should still rank above CdB though)

Hekko, would you be so kind to make a list of the cavalry (the coreect one) and post it here?

Im too lazy

I've got other things to do.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2013, 06:18:32 pm »
Need to add Japanese ranks :P

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2013, 06:20:40 pm »
If you post a list of them here, I will =D

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2013, 06:25:30 pm »
Colonel - Taisa
Lt Col - Chusa
Major - Shosa
Captain - Taii
1 LT- Chui
2 LT - Shoi
Warrent Officer/Engisn - Jun-i

Sergeant Major - Socho
Sergeant - Gunso
Corpral - Gocho
LCPL - Heicho
Jotthei - Senior Private
Kimmishia - Acting Senior Private
Ittohei - Private 1st Class
Nittohei - Private
« Last Edit: March 10, 2013, 07:17:39 pm by Skyz »

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2013, 06:45:00 pm »
will be adding them

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2013, 06:49:07 pm »
I added them, though i have some notes:


What is the use of an acting senior private, when they (presumably) dont have any commading duties?
Why are there 2 Jotthei ranks?
« Last Edit: March 10, 2013, 07:04:52 pm by Jocam »

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2013, 07:18:21 pm »
I added them, though i have some notes:


What is the use of an acting senior private, when they (presumably) dont have any commading duties?
Why are there 2 Jotthei ranks?

Ah i mixed them up in the end. I fixed it.

Acting Senior Private or Senior Private, there sort of like those Old Guard guys.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2013, 03:44:02 pm »
Edited the table

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2013, 11:00:42 pm »
Colonel
Lieutenant-Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
Cornet

Regimental Serjeant-Major (After 1813)
(Troop) Serjeant-Major (Troop after 1813)
Serjeant
Corporal

Trooper

That would be the proper structure for a british cavalry regiment that is not a part of the household cavalry. Before 1813 there would only be one Serjeant-Major per regiment, so accordingly there was no need to differentiate between troop or regimental serjeant-majors.

For the household cavalry it would be the following:

Colonel
Lieutenant-Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
Cornet

Regimental Corporal-Major (after 1813)
Corporal-Major
Corporal of Horse
Lance Corporal of Horse(/Corporal?)

Trooper

I am not that sure about these as I am of the normal cavalry ones, since I only found the modern ranks, and extrapolated the stuff about the other cavalry ranks onto these.

Also, will you update the explanations regarding CdB and Major for the french ranks?

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2013, 12:10:09 pm »
Replaced household cavalry ones with regular ones, I am going to stick to normal cavalry


Edited the ranks

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2013, 12:22:47 pm »
The dutch rank of 'Adjudant sous-officier' was the most senior NCO rank (just like in the French army). That's the rank you wrote down as 'adjudant'. I suppose it is translate-able as Battalion Sergeant-major.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2013, 12:25:25 pm »
I didn't, linky did =D, changed it though

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2013, 11:49:30 am »
Does anybody have rank insignias (i think you call them) for the Prussian ranks that i could use?

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2013, 03:25:45 pm »
I don't know the exact system, but I believe they didn't have rank-by-rank insignia. So you could distinguished the officer from the ranker, but not the captain from the lieutenant (or something like that) . Field officers (Like a colonel) carried epaulettes.
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