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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1350 on: September 22, 2015, 04:20:45 pm »
Just a quick question
what is this servers` policy towards using mods, ie the ones where you can be naked as sapper etc.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1351 on: September 22, 2015, 04:29:13 pm »
Just a quick question
what is this servers` policy towards using mods, ie the ones where you can be naked as sapper etc.

Are you pretending to be serious? Or are you stupid?


You have asked here and have been informed not to use it.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26558.0


Just for your information: If you use this mod on ANY server you may face a global ban. At least every admin will ban you on sight.
Dat kid who put up a global banlist back in Betty's times.
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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1352 on: September 22, 2015, 05:57:13 pm »
Just a quick question
what is this servers` policy towards using mods, ie the ones where you can be naked as sapper etc.

Are you pretending to be serious? Or are you stupid?


You have asked here and have been informed not to use it.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26558.0


Just for your information: If you use this mod on ANY server you may face a global ban. At least every admin will ban you on sight.

You weren`t being spoken to.
 Go back to making your dull, unamusing videos.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1353 on: September 22, 2015, 06:10:37 pm »
Just a quick question
what is this servers` policy towards using mods, ie the ones where you can be naked as sapper etc.

Are you pretending to be serious? Or are you stupid?


You have asked here and have been informed not to use it.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26558.0


Just for your information: If you use this mod on ANY server you may face a global ban. At least every admin will ban you on sight.

You weren`t being spoken to.
 Go back to making your dull, unamusing videos.

Well, who were you asking? Ted answered you. You can't use them or you'll face a guaranteed ban.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1354 on: September 22, 2015, 06:28:03 pm »
You can also ask some 15th guys and face an insta-ban, if you wish to  :)
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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1355 on: September 22, 2015, 07:23:25 pm »
Actually, people have used that mod that makes them naked on the server before. Those who have, did nothing wrong so they weren't banned.
This whole "global ban" thing only applies if Taleworlds does it. Not some random servers sharing their ban lists, so saying it is a global ban is false information.

If someone does come on and trolls, they'll get banned for the trolling, regardless if they are "naked" or not.
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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1356 on: September 22, 2015, 07:38:05 pm »
Just a quick question
what is this servers` policy towards using mods, ie the ones where you can be naked as sapper etc.

Are you pretending to be serious? Or are you stupid?


You have asked here and have been informed not to use it.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26558.0


Just for your information: If you use this mod on ANY server you may face a global ban. At least every admin will ban you on sight.

Stop acting like you're the f*cking NW police. These hacks - regarding the naked sapper etc. - are not malicious. They don't warrant a ban in anyway. Sure, there is a version allowing build point abuse but that's the worst it gets.

You can call Harvain a Nazi and a badmin all you want but at least he's not driven to perm ban anyone that looks like they may be having fun without being an admin *cough* Ted *cough*.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1357 on: September 22, 2015, 07:42:59 pm »
Betty is a cancer to NW and he should be dissed on the forums and in-game. He finds weak points in the system, and exploits them in order to create glitches and make it much easier for anyone who is using this modification. His mod includes an unbelievably accurate crosshair, instant sky towers which waste build points and create huge TNT towers and scripts to crash servers and be a nuisance to anyone who has to moderate a server. They shouldn't be allowed, and anyone who is banned for using them deserves it. People who use it have been warned numerous times, and they decided to ignore these, and so these bans are valid.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1358 on: September 22, 2015, 08:02:18 pm »
Betty is a cancer to NW and he should be dissed on the forums and in-game. He finds weak points in the system, and exploits them in order to create glitches and make it much easier for anyone who is using this modification. His mod includes an unbelievably accurate crosshair, instant sky towers which waste build points and create huge TNT towers and scripts to crash servers and be a nuisance to anyone who has to moderate a server. They shouldn't be allowed, and anyone who is banned for using them deserves it. People who use it have been warned numerous times, and they decided to ignore these, and so these bans are valid.

Please, don't embellish Betty's mods. The crosshair mod only works (barely) for a single shot, and the server crashing auto-kick script is outdated and ineffective.

A "Betty" is no threat to your server. Sure, they can be a nuisance, but perm-banning on sight and creating an unofficial "global" ban list just for Betty and his followers is simply ridiculous and has caused innocent players, including people I know personally, to get mixed up and banned because of a petty feud they knew nothing about.

Stop hunting them and they will leave you alone.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1359 on: September 22, 2015, 08:22:16 pm »
Still, for that one shot, they've got an advantage over a regular user, and that's highly unfair and the crashing script worked once, and caused many distress across servers, and you say that you support the use of these mods?

Betty is a threat to their server, he is a troublemaker that has caused mischief on many different servers, using keys to cause trouble intentionally. Anyone who supports Betty or uses the name or a name of someone who co-operates with them, should be careful and if they're not then they deserve to be banned. About those who you personally, it was fair for them to be banned: they know the consequences of being associated with Betty, and they have been punished accordingly.

"Stop hunting them and they will leave you alone". No, just no. If we leave him alone, he will just create more hacks and just cause more conflict within servers. That's like saying leave Hitler alone and he will stop exterminating the Jewish. It's never gonna happen. And shame on you for supporting Betty.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1360 on: September 22, 2015, 08:27:19 pm »
Still, for that one shot, they've got an advantage over a regular user, and that's highly unfair and the crashing script worked once, and caused many distress across servers, and you say that you support the use of these mods?

Betty is a threat to their server, he is a troublemaker that has caused mischief on many different servers, using keys to cause trouble intentionally. Anyone who supports Betty or uses the name or a name of someone who co-operates with them, should be careful and if they're not then they deserve to be banned. About those who you personally, it was fair for them to be banned: they know the consequences of being associated with Betty, and they have been punished accordingly.

"Stop hunting them and they will leave you alone". No, just no. If we leave him alone, he will just create more hacks and just cause more conflict within servers. That's like saying leave Hitler alone and he will stop exterminating the Jewish. It's never gonna happen. And shame on you for supporting Betty.

Did I say I support Betty?

Or did you make that assumption because I oppose banning innocent people who never did associate with Betty, but just wanted to use an almost exclusively cosmetic mod?   

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1361 on: September 22, 2015, 08:31:22 pm »
Sorry for making presumptions that you support Betty, but people who are banned for being associated with Betty are probably associated with Betty. They knew the consequences, and they decide to against them anyways.

Whether you like it or not, this is the way it is. Betty has terrorised NW and this is the price he shall pay. And the mod isn't cosmetic, it actually affects major aspects of the game. It doesn't just change the sapper for the user, it changes it for players who are in the server and looks extremely unprofessional. There are many aspects that he has modified which give users an extreme advantage, and they aren't cosmetic. And when people use these advantages, they are banned and complain, but in reality the ban was fair.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1362 on: September 22, 2015, 08:33:53 pm »
Sorry for making presumptions that you support Betty, but people who are banned for being associated with Betty are probably associated with Betty. They knew the consequences, and they decide to against them anyways.

Whether you like it or not, this is the way it is. Betty has terrorised NW and this is the price he shall pay. And the mod isn't cosmetic, it actually affects major aspects of the game. It doesn't just change the sapper for the user, it changes it for players who are in the server and looks extremely unprofessional. There are many aspects that he has modified which give users an extreme advantage, and they aren't cosmetic. And when people use these advantages, they are banned and complain, but in reality the ban was fair.

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1363 on: September 22, 2015, 08:42:41 pm »
Sorry for making presumptions that you support Betty, but people who are banned for being associated with Betty are probably associated with Betty. They knew the consequences, and they decide to against them anyways.

Whether you like it or not, this is the way it is. Betty has terrorised NW and this is the price he shall pay. And the mod isn't cosmetic, it actually affects major aspects of the game. It doesn't just change the sapper for the user, it changes it for players who are in the server and looks extremely unprofessional. There are many aspects that he has modified which give users an extreme advantage, and they aren't cosmetic. And when people use these advantages, they are banned and complain, but in reality the ban was fair.

You disagree with me now, but time will prove my point. Being too strict will show on your player numbers, and you can't expect people to not become bored with the base game of Napoleonic Wars and experiment with new modifications. If you meet these players with a perm ban, your list will only grow and grow until it's too late.

Just look at Harvain's server: trollers are rarely dealt with yet the server maintains a constantly high player count. Why? Because they ban for legitimate reasons, not because of some witch-hunt cooked up by Ted and yourself. Innocent players, even those with names accused to be related to Betty's regiment have been preyed on by your admins. Don't try to convert the 15th into such foolish ideology... 

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Re: 15th Humans vs Bots Server (UNBANS WILL NOT BE GRANTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
« Reply #1364 on: September 22, 2015, 08:47:50 pm »
I will never agree with you. They aren't using modifications that are client-side. They are using modifications that show up on everyone's screen, and are usually negative modifications. I have stated many times before, they are used to annoy and troll other players. Most people who use it just set out to troll players or are just generally stupid. Yeah, and is Harvain's server good? Most of the posts on this thread are negative, and if you say that they don't ban for  nothing, why are most of the people banned? Why don't they allow unbans? It seems to me, using your logic, that they only allow people who use Betty hacks to play. I don't believe that you actually agree with Betty hacks. They are hacks that are used to annoy players and give someone who uses them an advantage other an average player. Why do you agree with that? And it's people fault if they are accused of being apart of them. If they know anything about the game, they should know that Betty and anything related to them are strictly prohibited.