North American Community Lists - NaCl [UPDATE 1.1: "Show Some Melee Competence"]

[PJ]

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

good thing ur not a good gfer or duelist cause ur ass boy

[AP0CALYPS3]

whenever i play with good duelists they go off to the flanks and try to 1v1, and usually by the time that they kill their 1v1 opponent(or lose the 1v1), all their teammates die in the groupfight. Then they get 2v1ed or 3v1ed and lose.

well the counter argument to this is, imagine a team full of duel heroes where they all win their 1v1s, and none of their teammates die because they win their 1v1s.

[BabyJesus]

Groupfighting doesn't matter? Lol.
You obviously don't have a good knowledge about the game if you think that.

I just think groupfighting doesn't matter because its too fucking rigged at this point. Dueling is the only pure thing in NW to gauge someones skills.

You guys can hate all you want but the reality is most of these "GF winners" are in stacked teams and that's simply not fair. Most of the people like Babyjesus don't even do good in GF but since their team wins, they get a high rank on the list.

That is why I say GF doesn't matter, because for me I don't see none of the GF winners as legit, instead I see them as paper champions with a padded record because they were on a OP team.

You can't say that about dueling, but GF isn't easy and takes skill but its too corrupt at this point for me to actually be praising it.

Your right,most gf tournaments do just have stacked teams. But lbs are all about gf. If you can only duel and not gf, then you most likely wont help your regiment.

And i never said i was good at the game. I dont know where you get that idea. I even said a couple of times that i shouldnt be on tje list and that i am only on it because of the tournament win. i wouldnt say my team was stacked either. In fact i would say Asian had better players overall. And Apoc had a pretty good team too, although i dont remember who was on it.

Gold - BabyJesus
Gold - Alexander
Gold - Saltyy
Gold - Emo
Gold - Andee
Silver - AsianP
Silver - Blood
Silver - PJ
Silver - RussianFury

[AP0CALYPS3]

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

[Alexander]

whenever i play with good duelists they go off to the flanks and try to 1v1, and usually by the time that they kill their 1v1 opponent(or lose the 1v1), all their teammates die in the groupfight. Then they get 2v1ed or 3v1ed and lose.

well the counter argument to this is, imagine a team full of duel heroes where they all win their 1v1s, and none of their teammates die because they win their 1v1s.

Yeah it is similar to a meme in the counter strike scene

"if all of you get 1 kill this round then you might just win"

but lets be real, if you're playing good groupfighters then they're not going to let their teammate 1v1.

[Alexander]

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

10v10? or wat

because im pretty sure I can win with just 5th players lmao.

[Chantakey]

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

10v10? or wat

because im pretty sure I can win with just 5th players lmao.

Assemble the God Squad

[BabyJesus]

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

I hope you dont plan on putting tammo and jackie on the dueling team. Im pretty sure both said they prefer groupfighting

[AP0CALYPS3]

whenever i play with good duelists they go off to the flanks and try to 1v1, and usually by the time that they kill their 1v1 opponent(or lose the 1v1), all their teammates die in the groupfight. Then they get 2v1ed or 3v1ed and lose.

well the counter argument to this is, imagine a team full of duel heroes where they all win their 1v1s, and none of their teammates die because they win their 1v1s.

Yeah it is similar to a meme in the counter strike scene

"if all of you get 1 kill this round then you might just win"

but lets be real, if you're playing good groupfighters then they're not going to let their teammate 1v1.

lets be real, duel heroes are HEROES for a reason.

they are no stranger to fighting 2v1 3v1 odds, and can sometimes win them

All the while, you cant 2v1 everyone on the other team

you are gonna have 1v1s, and in theory you WILL lose them.

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

10v10? or wat

because im pretty sure I can win with just 5th players lmao.

Name your squad and numbers and ill match

you just cant have any duel heroes

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

I hope you dont plan on putting tammo and jackie on the dueling team. Im pretty sure both said they prefer groupfighting

preference has nothing to do with it, its what they are.

i can hardly have a duel hero team if you just take all the people that win duel tournaments

[Kovyjack]

Again with the group fighters vs duelist foolishness. 

Apoc a while ago listed his top "duel heroes" and they just so happened to be the top players of the entire community. Why do you lesser skilled players always attempt to belittle the best players in the game when you NEED a teammate to be of any considerable threat?

If you had duel heroes vs Groupfighting maestros in a first to 20.
I kinda smell a 20-5 (being generous too)

Try me.

mate the offers already been given

get your roster together

i will make it happen

10v10? or wat

because im pretty sure I can win with just 5th players lmao.

Lol'd

[Michael Sparks]

everyone in this thread is really triggered. it's highly entertaining.

[AP0CALYPS3]

everyone in this thread is really triggered. it's highly entertaining.

It really is, I find these debates really fun

Care to join in?

[BabyJesus]

Well you cant take all the GF tourney winners then.

and really the gf just have to hold the duelers until they win a 2v1. Then the groupfighters will be up and just can 2v1 everyone.

[Michael Sparks]

everyone in this thread is really triggered. it's highly entertaining.

It really is, I find these debates really fun

Care to join in?

nah i'd burn the fuck out of everyone son

[AP0CALYPS3]

Well you cant take all the GF tourney winners then.

and really the gf just have to hold the duelers until they win a 2v1. Then the groupfighters will be up and just can 2v1 everyone.

Thats hardly fair.

Only a handful of people win duel tournaments, where 3/4ths of the community has won some form of groupfighting tourny one way or another.

Also my counter argument: The goal of the duel hero is to hold those 2 people in the 2v1 until everyone else wins their 1v1s (also more than likely, the duel heroes will also be 2v1ing somebody) Its basic groupfighting.