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Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« on: January 02, 2015, 07:12:09 am »
Historically, which countries are the most terrible at fighting wars? This is my list:

5. Russia
4. Spain
3. Italy
2. France
1. Austria
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2015, 11:19:13 am »
I'd say:

5. Belgium (actually Belgium did not fight too bad, they were just very unlucky)
4. Peru
3. Romania
2. Bolivia
1. Italy

Why Russia, Spain, France and Austria? These countries fought gloriously in dozens of wars.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2015, 01:44:28 pm »
Every nation has moments of glory and times of defeat in their history. There's no saying who is better than one other.

Spain for example was the undoubted military leader in the 16th and early 17th century, but was nothing more than a secondary powder in the 18th century. France was the leading power in the later half of the 17th century and early 18th century, declined after the Seven years War, came back during the Napoleonic Wars and after that declined again with 1871 being a low-point.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2015, 01:53:11 pm »
Indeed, but some have more moments of glory and some have more moments of defeat.

I think we should clarify if we are talking about nations or countries. Because Italy for example was the center of many wars during the Rennaissance even though they weren't united at that time.

And Bolivia isn't even a nation. It's just a region named after Simón Bolívar.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 02:08:42 pm »
And Bolivia isn't even a nation. It's just a region named after Simón Bolívar.

The same way Germany isn't a nation, but just a region named after the collective name for the tribes who lived there during the time of the Romans.

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2015, 02:16:17 pm »
German people have the same language and culture since hundreds of years ago like France, Russia or England. The German word Deutsch means btw "belonging to the nation".

Bolivia was inhabited by natives until the Spanish arrived. Now the country has 36 different languages and 40 different ethnic groups.

But this topic is about the noobs of war.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2015, 02:30:30 pm »
You don't have to be of the same culture, language or ethic group to form a nation. While it's true that most nations are built around a certain ethical group wishing to form a nation, this isn't the definition of a nation. By that definition, my country isn't a nation because we have 2 official languages.

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2015, 02:39:58 pm »
Quote from: Wikipedia
Nation has various meanings, and the meaning has changed over time. The concept of "nation" is related to "ethnic community" or ethnie.

A nation is not really bound to a country. But there are different ways you could understand it. In my opinion the Dutch are a nation and Bolivia isn't.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2015, 03:47:11 pm »
Maybe he's talkin' about the napoleonic times?
I'll say (my opinion)

1.Italy
2.Ottoman Empire
3.Austria
4.Spain
5. -

I don't even know a 5th one. Except these all fought well I'll guess.  ::) ;D
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 04:03:40 pm »
This thread needs a poll on "Is Italy the worst military power: yes or no?".
Id say yes for being a traitor and a failure in both world wars + they lost to Ethiopia....

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2015, 04:11:36 pm »
Maybe he's talkin' about the napoleonic times?
I'll say (my opinion)

1.Italy
2.Ottoman Empire
3.Austria
4.Spain
5. -

I don't even know a 5th one. Except these all fought well I'll guess.  ::) ;D
Does this list regard to the Napoleonic Wars?

Even if not you should cross out the Ottomans, Austria and Spain. All these countries existed for a very long period and managed to defend and even expand their territory.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2015, 04:16:41 pm »
Every nation has moments of glory and times of defeat in their history.

Like I said, it's only my oppinion Turin. For me, the moments of defeat of this countries have more weight than their 'glory' moments.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2015, 04:19:49 pm »
Every nation has moments of glory and times of defeat in their history.

Like I said, it's only my oppinion Turin. For me, the moments of defeat of this countries have more weight than their 'glory' moments.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2015, 04:20:36 pm »
Duuring get back on topic before I whip you.


Iceland is OBVIOUSLY the worst!;) Never won a war, amiright

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2015, 04:23:48 pm »
They won the Icelandic Cod Wars.
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