All regiment & mess hall threads capped at 100 pages

[Blobmania]

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

[KL4R1N0G4MPR0S]

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

wat no u opress us mods im off to TW evrey2 luvz us der. It is claer tha you all Ullimin@i wtf stap lieing

[Archduke Sven]

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

Well nobody gave a logical answer that we can understand until Olaf did so.

If someone hits you and you ask why, and he said because you smell like cheese, it doesnt make sense so you assume that guy is some idiot.

Humans like logic in their life.

[Riddlez]

If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them...

You have just uncovered th fantasies of the entire community. Do you have any idea what you just set in motion?

[NickyJ]

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

When we listened to you, this is what you told us:

Due to excessive strain on the forum servers, the FSE administration have unfortunately had to make a decision to cap all regiment threads at 100 pages. This thread will now be locked, please feel free to begin a new thread for your regiment.

Thanks for your co-operation,

Regards,

Blobmania,
Senior Moderator

Nobody said anything about game servers. Only one week after all of this does anyone say that it affects the game servers, and even then, he admits:

We are running BCOF test, NW Servers, BCOF development stuff and the Forums on the same machine.
We can not afford to have constant spikes, which you will not notice when visiting the forums,because they are just that, very short spikes, but we do notice when testing BCOF.

Capping the pages to 100 prevents most of these CPU spikes. Unless you donate us 1440 euro each year, so we can host the forums on a separate server, it will stay as it is. We do not have the money to pay for it on our own.

Everything we were told was that it's all about the forum servers lagging. Up until yesterday, no one said that the game and forum servers were the same servers, or that this was because the games were lagging.

I'm not saying we need to be read into each and every detail about all the goings on of the website and game developing, but a simple and clear explanation before you make major changes to the forum would stop a LOT of these forum complaints from rising in the first place. Perhaps you don't consider regimental threads important, but even if you don't and all this breaks out, that simple and clear explanation would put it to bed a lot sooner.

[Blobmania]

That's what I told people because that's the explanation I was given. Vince told me exactly what he told the rest of the community, and because I know that he wouldn't have asked us to do it without good reason, I didn't feel the need to ask for any more information.

Any one of you could easily have sent Olaf or Vince a PM asking for more information, rather than raging publicly that we're being unjust.

[Walko]

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

Implying that you told us what was going on before you went on a thread locking spree.

Implying that It didn't take a fuck ton of pages and a shit ton of confusion to show people the reason

Ok.

Please let's learn from past mistakes and next time something like this happens, you can go about it in a manner that won't make people thing "FSE Nazis!1!1!!" (Ie. Explain what's going on and why you do it before you do.) it's not difficult and wouldn't make people hate FSE more.


But then again you won't listen to me.

[The Rebel]

Spoiler

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

Implying that you told us what was going on before you went on a thread locking spree.

Implying that It didn't take a fuck ton of pages and a shit ton of confusion to show people the reason

Ok.

Please let's learn from past mistakes and next time something like this happens, you can go about it in a manner that won't make people thing "FSE Nazis!1!1!!" (Ie. Explain what's going on and why you do it before you do.) it's not difficult and wouldn't make people hate FSE more.


But then again you won't listen to me.

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[Riddlez]

Spoiler

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

Implying that you told us what was going on before you went on a thread locking spree.

Implying that It didn't take a fuck ton of pages and a shit ton of confusion to show people the reason

Ok.

Please let's learn from past mistakes and next time something like this happens, you can go about it in a manner that won't make people thing "FSE Nazis!1!1!!" (Ie. Explain what's going on and why you do it before you do.) it's not difficult and wouldn't make people hate FSE more.


But then again you won't listen to me.

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[Blobmania]

It was explained on the threads that were locked, and again in more depth on a stickied thread of its own. Every poster that asked for their OP had it returned to them. Literally all people had to do was PM a moderator for the code and start a new thread - considerably less effort than people have spent in complaining about it in the first place. You're making mountains out of molehills here.

[Riddlez]

It was explained on the threads that were locked, and again in more depth on a stickied thread of its own. Every poster that asked for their OP had it returned to them. Literally all people had to do was PM a moderator for the code and start a new thread - considerably less effort than people have spent in complaining about it in the first place. You're making mountains out of molehills here.

This would be true if that had been what he actually meant.
What he meant:

FSE: Look, let's cap all threads at 100 pages, because our server lags, and BCoF, NW and FSE site are all same servers.
Now, to let them know, we are going to explain all this in three easy sentences to the community by making a public announcement we will start doing this in one week.

*POsts announcement
*Some people moping and crying over nothing
*At least 75% of community going: Well, shame, but now we get to back up our threads at least

Issue resolved, carry on, plebs.


I think your policy of informing the community is a bit off.

[The Rebel]

It was explained on the threads that were locked, and again in more depth on a stickied thread of its own. Every poster that asked for their OP had it returned to them. Literally all people had to do was PM a moderator for the code and start a new thread - considerably less effort than people have spent in complaining about it in the first place. You're making mountains out of molehills here.

Yes it may have been stated. But it would have been better if you made an annoucement of some sort. So when you locked all the threads, you would not have gotten such a big reaction from the community.

You just think bring up something abruptly is going to make everything better? No. There needs to be a fair share of warnings/annoucements telling people what is going to happen. Instead you, "the mods," the came out of no where and started locking some of the biggest, most active threads on the forum.

So you know, many people will look at the thread and be like, "Oh no, what is going on. What are the moderators doing." I just think personally, #1 The Moderators should have contacted the regiment leaders or the community as a whole what is happening in more depth. Say as sending a message to everyone on the forum, stating whats upcoming with the forum etc.

It's good you gave the BB codes back, but I still think there should have been a warning before you started locking threads.

[MaHuD]

We could also have been spared that if the community had listened to us in the first place. The reasons for implementing the policy don't change their impact. If the community weren't so obsessed with the idea that we're trying to screw them over, this could have been avoided.

Believe it or not, we've got good reasons for doing what we do. It's rarely just a shot in the dark.

How difficult is it to warn people before hand or properly explain it?
Lack of transparency is what caused problems before.
If you don't tell people, they will make assumptions and you know where that leads.
Of course making assumptions is bad, but in the end its the Company that will be hurt the most, not the members.
Members can easily look for a new place to be, whereas a company cannot easily replenish their fanbase losses.

edit:
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=19540.msg821726#msg821726
That thread was supposed to inform the members?
It is one of the many stickied topics there (I had not even noticed it until you just mentioned it), and it is made at roughly the same time as this thread from what I can see.
A big post in the announcement and at the news at the right top corner with 2 or 3 days advance notice would have been much better and allowed the explanation to spread faster than the angry replies.

[Crescent Glow]

Or maybe sending a private message to everyone.

[The Rebel]

It was explained on the threads that were locked, and again in more depth on a stickied thread of its own. Every poster that asked for their OP had it returned to them. Literally all people had to do was PM a moderator for the code and start a new thread - considerably less effort than people have spent in complaining about it in the first place. You're making mountains out of molehills here.

I just think personally, #1 The Moderators should have contacted the regiment leaders or the community as a whole what is happening in more depth. Say as sending a message to everyone on the forum, stating whats upcoming with the forum etc.

Or maybe sending a private message to everyone.

Ya that would be a good idea.