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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2014, 11:38:38 pm »
Looking at the above list, £10 down on the table that you are an American. Many, many over-glorified names.
I could of added more... like Wellington, George Washington, Alexander I, Julius Caesar, Augustus, Gebhard von Blücher, and Robert E Lee. Shit the list could go on and on I just added some major people. And these people are not "over-glorified" lol... Alexander the Great did more then anyone ever dreamed. Alexander the Great one of the few people/nation to conquer Afghanistan. Erwin Rommel, lead Germany to many victory's in Africa. With the Afrika Corps all ready on low moral and supplies he still pulled of victory, he also attempted to create the greatest defensive called the Atlantic Wall. George Patton lead none experienced US GI's across Europe through the Battle of the Bulge. Napoleon speaks for him self we all know his story. Friedrick the Great lead Prussia to many victories during the 7 years war. Col. Aldemar and Lt. Dan where just jokes...So why does it matter if I'm American or not. These people where some of the greatest military masterminds so gg. 

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2014, 11:40:24 pm »
No respect for Saladin...
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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2014, 11:53:32 pm »
Read my comment on Alexander (terrible at the politics, won a few battles succeeding to an Empire, messing up India and Macedonian inheritance), Patton is over glorified in the USA (he did some good stuff but nothing compared to Rommel, Montgomery, and Khrushchev), Washington too (unconventional is not good generalship, if so then General Giap should be here), Wellington and Bluscher were good generals but far from the greatest, especially with Napoleon at the time. Considering the French lost Waterloo because, firstly the stalemate at quatre bras, secondly letting Bluscher go after Ligny, thirdly superior British infantry on Mt St. Jean, fourthly Neys cavalry charge, and finally being outnumbered and attacked by two armies. Caeser over glorified himself, outmatched by both Marcellus and Hannibal if you compare Roman/opposing generals (read previous comments; De Bello Galico) Rommel was good, but just as good as Montgomery who beat him in Africa. It is just those above I disagree with (with the possible exception of Rommel). GG. And if we mention Frederick then why not Wolfe?

They were all indisputably good but we are talking THE greatest.

The America thing was about Patton and Lt Dan, perhaps I should have spaced that a bit more from the part about over glorified names.
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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2014, 01:54:36 am »
Read my comment on Alexander (terrible at the politics, won a few battles succeeding to an Empire, messing up India and Macedonian inheritance), Patton is over glorified in the USA (he did some good stuff but nothing compared to Rommel, Montgomery, and Khrushchev), Washington too (unconventional is not good generalship, if so then General Giap should be here), Wellington and Bluscher were good generals but far from the greatest, especially with Napoleon at the time. Considering the French lost Waterloo because, firstly the stalemate at quatre bras, secondly letting Bluscher go after Ligny, thirdly superior British infantry on Mt St. Jean, fourthly Neys cavalry charge, and finally being outnumbered and attacked by two armies. Caeser over glorified himself, outmatched by both Marcellus and Hannibal if you compare Roman/opposing generals (read previous comments; De Bello Galico) Rommel was good, but just as good as Montgomery who beat him in Africa. It is just those above I disagree with (with the possible exception of Rommel). GG. And if we mention Frederick then why not Wolfe?

They were all indisputably good but we are talking THE greatest.

The America thing was about Patton and Lt Dan, perhaps I should have spaced that a bit more from the part about over glorified names.

Alexander) Its General not Politician nor Ruler. But General.
Patton) I would imagine he would be liked by British and French due to him and Montgomery just spearheading the German defenses and liberating.
Rommel) ?
Who the hell is Wolfe
I said many more i.e Hannibal.
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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2014, 02:11:36 am »
Patton's liked the bum rush tactic.

He was a crazy mofo
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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2014, 02:16:08 am »
Did I just see people blaming Ney for the failure at Waterloo again? Uuuuuugh...

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2014, 02:18:22 am »
Well that cav charge wasn't wise, you have to admit that.

Napoleon should have brought Davout and left Grouchy in fckin Paris.
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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2014, 02:27:01 am »
No respect for Saladin...
He was nothing. He never faced a real general like Richard the Lionheart. If Richard didn't leave the Third Crusade to protect his throne in England I think the Crusades could of driven Saladin back.

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2014, 02:31:29 am »
No respect for Saladin...
He was nothing. He never faced a real general like Richard the Lionheart. If Richard didn't leave the Third Crusade to protect his throne in England I think the Crusades could of driven Saladin back.
So to rephrase that, you have no idea what you're talking about?

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2014, 02:35:32 am »
No respect for Saladin...
He was nothing. He never faced a real general like Richard the Lionheart. If Richard didn't leave the Third Crusade to protect his throne in England I think the Crusades could of driven Saladin back.
So to rephrase that, you have no idea what you're talking about?
same here

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2014, 02:38:09 am »
Saladin did fight Richard I at the battle of Arsuf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arsuf

Albeit he was defeated, but that doesn't mean he was a bad general.

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2014, 02:42:34 am »
Saladin did fight Richard I at the battle of Arsuf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arsuf

Albeit he was defeated, but that doesn't mean he was a bad general.
yea see you in 10. Saladin didn't just lose he got his rear end kicked. Look at those statistics. Either or 1-0 Lionheart was 100% Successful against Saladin.

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2014, 02:52:53 am »
You seem to have a rather poor understanding of history.

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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2014, 02:57:37 am »
Trying to wonder if he's trolling or genuinely unaware...
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Re: Best General of All Time?
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2014, 03:11:00 am »
You seem to have a rather poor understanding of history.
lol k? He was beat twice actually... Siege of Acre and Battle of Arsuf. I'm not saying Saladin was a terrible general. I think that Lionheart was the better General. So lets stop and continue to another topic. We all have different opinions. So reLAX.