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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2014, 09:08:17 pm »
Warsaw pact, Putin is a strong leader, focuses on military and won't let go. If it's a conventional war(no nukes), I'd place my bet on Warsaw, hardier men and units. Technological inferiority is a lie, it's just less d***waving that USA, just check out some of the military excercises Putin does...and the state of readyness of Russia's army.

I think you may have a very basic understanding of history.

Maybe i should also tell you that currently the Warsaw Pact is disbanded, and that this conversation is about the time period 1955-1989
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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2014, 09:12:10 pm »
But how else is Putin going to be involved in this?

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2014, 09:18:44 pm »
But how else is Putin going to be involved in this?

Well maybe you should make a NATO vs CIS thread so that we can show our love for Putin.


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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2014, 10:33:47 pm »
Warsaw pact might be formally disbanded, but matey, most of the countries would still side with Russia. This conversation doesn't necessarily have to be about the Cold War era.

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2014, 10:41:27 pm »
Maybe the governments, but not the people. Polish and Ukrainians have a deep, deep hatred for the Russian government. The Ukrainians even had riots against Russian influence a while ago, I believe.

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2014, 10:45:01 pm »
Warsaw pact might be formally disbanded, but matey, most of the countries would still side with Russia. This conversation doesn't necessarily have to be about the Cold War era.

Alot of the former Warsaw Pact nations are in NATO, your point has no validity.


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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2014, 10:50:55 pm »
The European countries, mostly.

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2014, 10:57:18 pm »
The European countries, mostly.
and the countries in the warsaw pact weren't european?

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2014, 11:25:26 pm »
Warsaw pact, Putin is a strong leader, focuses on military and won't let go. If it's a conventional war(no nukes), I'd place my bet on Warsaw, hardier men and units. Technological inferiority is a lie, it's just less d***waving that USA, just check out some of the military excercises Putin does...and the state of readyness of Russia's army.
You do realize that Putin wasn't the leader of Russia when Warsaw Pact was around? We are talking about Warsaw Pact with Soviet Union not Russia the "democracy".

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2014, 11:42:33 pm »
The European countries, mostly.


So you believe that, Russia, Kazakstan and Uzbekistan will beat NATO.

Ok man, believe what you want.


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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2014, 12:03:37 am »
The European countries, mostly.


So you believe that, Russia, Kazakstan and Uzbekistan will beat NATO.

Ok man, believe what you want.

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2014, 09:12:03 am »
Correction: Russian and Putin will beat NATO.

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2014, 09:15:37 am »
If war broke out, NATO would most certainly win, for reasons already stated. However the Warsaw pact disintegrated on its own, and NATO is still going strong today, so I think the victor in that respect is clear ::)
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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2014, 03:34:18 pm »
If war broke out, NATO would most certainly win, for reasons already stated. However the Warsaw pact disintegrated on its own, and NATO is still going strong today, so I think the victor in that respect is clear ::)
Not Really, you underestimate the Warsaw Pact, For Reasons Below.

1. NATO Countries had Volunteer Armies, which meant they already had less Manpower then the Pact countries, the Pact Countries, however had Conscripted/Drafted Armies, which meant they had double the manpower the NATO countries had. Outnumbered atleast 2-1 on the Berlin Front, they would have had to retreat to a more defensible position where they would wait for reinforcements, that is assuming NATO started the war, If the Warsaw Pact started the war, their doctrines for going across the Wall, meant a surprise attack. Just By the Surprise Factor alone the NATO Troops would have to retreat. (Again, ::))

2. The Warsaw Pact had a lot of BMP's which also meant, a lot of ATGM's which could reduce a Abrams to dust, Also the shear number of tanks they had, could do some damage.(Alot of Damage)

(Im Still not done yet,)

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Re: NATO vs Warsaw Pact (Who Would Win)
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2014, 05:36:29 pm »
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NATO Countries had Volunteer Armies
Ehm, nope. The Netherlands had conscription until 1997. The British until 1960. The Belgians until 1993. France still has it, it just suspended as it's peace, just like Italy and Germany. And so on. 

Several countries in the Warsaw pact had revolutions against the communist, which shows how loyal exactly these people and troops were. Not that anyone can blame them.