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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2019, 03:10:52 am »
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lol I've watched videos from evan 2013, duel tournys gfs jackie, xeon etc. All I can say is LOL its legit spam and spin and loads of stuff that just would not work today. I tried to copy evans playstyle simply doesn't work because everyone holds like an autist and baits chamber blocks these days, everyone lol. You are deluded if you think players from 2012-2014 better completely deluded.
You can't copy evans style he is literally one with the game, god of range. It was different meta not to mention i think in 2013 melee was different because up and down attack had same speed and lenght,might be changed in 2012 though, the tournament that was won by Akame was on old melee rest is current melee. How did Herishey kept winning with old players for so long when only he played and he didn't tryhard like you guys did. And duels are literal cancer s keying and spamming or just blocking for 30mins untill someone sideblock glitches.

Yeah I agree with you on duels. But the overestimation of these old players as if they are some sought of god is a joke. I've been playing the game longer than evan ever did. The comment about Herishey doesn't make sense.



It's true but the game has massively evolved since then. 2012-2015 is 3 years of playing. 2012-2019 is 7 years. I would argue the skill ceiling has only risen and risen since then. Like it does in every single other game csgo, dota 2 etc. It's fair to say that players have only gotten better and better over time.

It's simply a fallacy to try and believe that 2012-2015 era players are better if anything they were worse. It's part and parcel  with any competitive game that as it ages the skill level increases. The

It would be fair to say as well the average skill of the top players is better than those of years ago. It's not me trying to have big ego "oh im so much better!!" its common fact of any game. They only played the game for 3-4 years and in the early stages, since then every player still playing can do what they did trust me.

Evan played NW since launch and other mods before hand so it is impossible for you to play NW longer than him, maybe you played MM longer than him but that had a diffrent melee.

Herishey and some other old players wouldn't play game for months come to the tournament and win against French Touch who were considered best at that time period. It wasn't once it was trend. If you can't make sense out of that I can't help you.

It is common for games where something actually changes about the game (we didn't have melee changes since 2012)and games that actually have high skill cap. NW has so little mechanics and almost no strategy to it that it doesn't needs 7 years 2012-2019 to be fully mastered, it doesn't takes 7 years to reach skill cap since it's so low. So basically players would fully master melee of the game in a year max 2 years and then skill cap would stay the same. Meta in teamfights is still the same as it was in 2013 while duels changed for random reasons but they are irrelevant.
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Drake, Extazz94, LeBrave, Vade, Peponi

2017-2019

Drake, Extazz94, LeBrave, Maharball, Fwuffy (sub Muha)

I have the same opinion than golden, the players who play actually are better than in 2012-2014 its just logic. The golden âge of nw in term of activity is 2012 2015 yes, but in term of skill i think it was 2017 because some of the best players stoped To play. The players of 2012 who come and say we were better than you are actually a big retard.

Drake was and still the best players of Alm time in gf in duel and in gf captain. In 2015 frenchtouch révolutioned the gf forma in term of strategy etc and the start was the mini nwwc 2015.

+1 Lebrave  :-*
« Last Edit: March 21, 2019, 03:14:44 am by Golden. »
you have implied technical aspect in your message, I'll be answering it with some technical accuracy on the duel meta and it's philosophy, tomorrow.

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2019, 07:50:36 am »
"Meta in teamfights is still the same" What an epic jock

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2019, 09:36:48 am »
You can't copy evans style he is literally one with the game, god of range. It was different meta not to mention i think in 2013 melee was different because up and down attack had same speed and lenght,might be changed in 2012 though, the tournament that was won by Akame was on old melee rest is current melee. How did Herishey kept winning with old players for so long when only he played and he didn't tryhard like you guys did. And duels are literal cancer s keying and spamming or just blocking for 30mins untill someone sideblock glitches.

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #168 on: March 21, 2019, 10:15:57 am »
If I managed only with blocks, some stupid feints winning 7 and 6 (since it was bo16) rounds against Germany and France in 2013 NWWC with a team which literally Just knew how to Block and never did play against EU (apart from Cruor_Volt, Beo and Sani). Then for sure competitive scene at that time was much worse.
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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #169 on: March 21, 2019, 11:38:05 am »
If I managed only with autoblock , some stupid feints winning 7 and 6 (since it was bo16) rounds against Germany and France in 2013 NWWC with a team which literally Just knew how to autoblock and never did play against EU (apart from Cruor_Volt, Beo and Sani). Then for sure competitive scene at that time was much worse.
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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #170 on: March 21, 2019, 11:52:39 am »
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lol I've watched videos from evan 2013, duel tournys gfs jackie, xeon etc. All I can say is LOL its legit spam and spin and loads of stuff that just would not work today. I tried to copy evans playstyle simply doesn't work because everyone holds like an autist and baits chamber blocks these days, everyone lol. You are deluded if you think players from 2012-2014 better completely deluded.
You can't copy evans style he is literally one with the game, god of range. It was different meta not to mention i think in 2013 melee was different because up and down attack had same speed and lenght,might be changed in 2012 though, the tournament that was won by Akame was on old melee rest is current melee. How did Herishey kept winning with old players for so long when only he played and he didn't tryhard like you guys did. And duels are literal cancer s keying and spamming or just blocking for 30mins untill someone sideblock glitches.

Yeah I agree with you on duels. But the overestimation of these old players as if they are some sought of god is a joke. I've been playing the game longer than evan ever did. The comment about Herishey doesn't make sense.



It's true but the game has massively evolved since then. 2012-2015 is 3 years of playing. 2012-2019 is 7 years. I would argue the skill ceiling has only risen and risen since then. Like it does in every single other game csgo, dota 2 etc. It's fair to say that players have only gotten better and better over time.

It's simply a fallacy to try and believe that 2012-2015 era players are better if anything they were worse. It's part and parcel  with any competitive game that as it ages the skill level increases. The

It would be fair to say as well the average skill of the top players is better than those of years ago. It's not me trying to have big ego "oh im so much better!!" its common fact of any game. They only played the game for 3-4 years and in the early stages, since then every player still playing can do what they did trust me.

Evan played NW since launch and other mods before hand so it is impossible for you to play NW longer than him, maybe you played MM longer than him but that had a diffrent melee.

Herishey and some other old players wouldn't play game for months come to the tournament and win against French Touch who were considered best at that time period. It wasn't once it was trend. If you can't make sense out of that I can't help you.

It is common for games where something actually changes about the game (we didn't have melee changes since 2012)and games that actually have high skill cap. NW has so little mechanics and almost no strategy to it that it doesn't needs 7 years 2012-2019 to be fully mastered, it doesn't takes 7 years to reach skill cap since it's so low. So basically players would fully master melee of the game in a year max 2 years and then skill cap would stay the same. Meta in teamfights is still the same as it was in 2013 while duels changed for random reasons but they are irrelevant.
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2012-2013

jackieChan, ClaSh, Xeon, Evan, Svensson

2014-2015

Evan, Axiom, Mopin , Eddie, LameHorse

2015-2016

Drake, Extazz94, LeBrave, Vade, Peponi

2017-2019

Drake, Extazz94, LeBrave, Maharball, Fwuffy (sub Muha)

I have the same opinion than golden, the players who play actually are better than in 2012-2014 its just logic. The golden âge of nw in term of activity is 2012 2015 yes, but in term of skill i think it was 2017 because some of the best players stoped To play. The players of 2012 who come and say we were better than you are actually a big retard.

Drake was and still the best players of Alm time in gf in duel and in gf captain. In 2015 frenchtouch révolutioned the gf forma in term of strategy etc and the start was the mini nwwc 2015.

+1 Lebrave  :-*
Agreeing with LeBrave lul. Irrelevant player until good players left.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2019, 11:59:42 am by Big Pete »

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #171 on: March 21, 2019, 12:02:12 pm »
Oh damn, the 2012-2014 skill was better LeBrave. They didn’t have to deal with your attitude or watch you butcher the English language one sentence at a time because you know online translation is a foreign concept to you.  “Headache ensued”

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #172 on: March 21, 2019, 12:35:26 pm »
Oh damn, the 2012-2014 skill was better LeBrave. They didn’t have to deal with your attitude or watch you butcher the English language one sentence at a time because you know online translation is a foreign concept to you.  “Headache ensued”
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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #173 on: March 21, 2019, 01:10:11 pm »
xeon rekted haze in a 1v1 lol

Yes in 2012 when drake was not on the game :)

No he was on minecraft
He was 1v1ing zombies to beat xeon smh so smart

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #174 on: March 21, 2019, 04:57:24 pm »
Oh damn, the 2012-2014 skill was better LeBrave. They didn’t have to deal with your attitude or watch you butcher the English language one sentence at a time because you know online translation is a foreign concept to you.  “Headache ensued”
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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #175 on: March 21, 2019, 05:02:53 pm »
If I managed only with blocks, some stupid feints winning 7 and 6 (since it was bo16) rounds against Germany and France in 2013 NWWC with a team which literally Just knew how to Block and never did play against EU (apart from Cruor_Volt, Beo and Sani). Then for sure competitive scene at that time was much worse.



"god of range" insane player btw

https://youtu.be/JXePAROrBHM?t=185
« Last Edit: March 21, 2019, 05:04:30 pm by Golden. »
you have implied technical aspect in your message, I'll be answering it with some technical accuracy on the duel meta and it's philosophy, tomorrow.

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #176 on: March 21, 2019, 05:11:34 pm »
If I managed only with blocks, some stupid feints winning 7 and 6 (since it was bo16) rounds against Germany and France in 2013 NWWC with a team which literally Just knew how to Block and never did play against EU (apart from Cruor_Volt, Beo and Sani). Then for sure competitive scene at that time was much worse.



"god of range" insane player btw

https://youtu.be/JXePAROrBHM?t=185

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #177 on: March 21, 2019, 05:15:19 pm »
wow a clip from groupfighting server, with this logic jackie was the greatest of all fucking time

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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #178 on: March 21, 2019, 05:17:14 pm »
no harrier was
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Re: What is your 5v5 dream team?
« Reply #179 on: March 21, 2019, 05:18:12 pm »
wow a clip from groupfighting server, with this logic jackie was the greatest of all fucking time

m8 just trying to prove overall skill was worse in 2013 its not a dig at anyone. Besides it does show evan playstyle does it not even if it is gf server?
you have implied technical aspect in your message, I'll be answering it with some technical accuracy on the duel meta and it's philosophy, tomorrow.