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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => North & South: First Manassas => Topic started by: Goomba_ on December 06, 2018, 08:47:43 pm

Title: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on December 06, 2018, 08:47:43 pm
It was a good run lads.

War of Rights has and always will be shit.

If you donated to War of Rights you wasted your money and your time.

Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on December 06, 2018, 10:07:00 pm
10/10
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: James22 on December 06, 2018, 10:54:27 pm
It was a good run lads.

War of Rights has and always will be shit.

If you donated to War of Rights you wasted your money and your time.

Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Foxy on December 07, 2018, 03:21:04 am
good run boys
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Dazzer on December 07, 2018, 10:29:33 am
Thank you for your input, again
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Hinkel on December 07, 2018, 11:58:18 pm
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: lucsa27 on December 08, 2018, 12:24:54 am
Lol, North and South was good. But a standalone well made beautiful game is a bit better than a m&b mod...
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on December 08, 2018, 05:31:45 am
Lol, North and South was good. But a standalone well made beautiful game is a bit better than a m&b mod...

Imagine thinking this
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on December 08, 2018, 05:39:10 am
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)

Yeah bud I have 1k+ on the mod I know you made it. You couldn't help but stick your name into with every chance you got. I loved North and South, it was a quality mod with a good community that I was a big part of, that doesn't mean that your indie kickstarter trash is a good though. Just because you can reskin and write a few lines of code for an already existing game doesn't make you a game developer. It is honestly astonishing how huge you and your dev teams egos are considering you have been working on this "game" for 5 years and its still in alpha. Pathetic.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on December 08, 2018, 02:57:21 pm
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)

Yeah bud I have 1k+ on the mod I know you made it. You couldn't help but stick your name into with every chance you got. I loved North and South, it was a quality mod with a good community that I was a big part of, that doesn't mean that your indie kickstarter trash is a good though. Just because you can reskin and write a few lines of code for an already existing game doesn't make you a game developer. It is honestly astonishing how huge you and your dev teams egos are considering you have been working on this "game" for 5 years and its still in alpha. Pathetic.

Battle Cry of Freedom.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on December 08, 2018, 05:24:34 pm
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)

Yeah bud I have 1k+ on the mod I know you made it. You couldn't help but stick your name into with every chance you got. I loved North and South, it was a quality mod with a good community that I was a big part of, that doesn't mean that your indie kickstarter trash is a good though. Just because you can reskin and write a few lines of code for an already existing game doesn't make you a game developer. It is honestly astonishing how huge you and your dev teams egos are considering you have been working on this "game" for 5 years and its still in alpha. Pathetic.

Battle Cry of Freedom.

hey now
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on December 08, 2018, 06:50:15 pm
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)

Yeah bud I have 1k+ on the mod I know you made it. You couldn't help but stick your name into with every chance you got. I loved North and South, it was a quality mod with a good community that I was a big part of, that doesn't mean that your indie kickstarter trash is a good though. Just because you can reskin and write a few lines of code for an already existing game doesn't make you a game developer. It is honestly astonishing how huge you and your dev teams egos are considering you have been working on this "game" for 5 years and its still in alpha. Pathetic.

Battle Cry of Freedom.

hey now

 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on December 08, 2018, 09:38:55 pm
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)

Yeah bud I have 1k+ on the mod I know you made it. You couldn't help but stick your name into with every chance you got. I loved North and South, it was a quality mod with a good community that I was a big part of, that doesn't mean that your indie kickstarter trash is a good though. Just because you can reskin and write a few lines of code for an already existing game doesn't make you a game developer. It is honestly astonishing how huge you and your dev teams egos are considering you have been working on this "game" for 5 years and its still in alpha. Pathetic.

Battle Cry of Freedom.

I would talk shit about BCoF too but if the mods over here are anything like the ones on the WoR forum I will be instabanned
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: lucsa27 on December 09, 2018, 12:04:37 am
What’s so wrong with them making their own game?
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on December 09, 2018, 06:32:06 am
What’s so wrong with them making their own game?

Nothing is wrong with them making it, but when you take this much time to make a game, sucker idiots into crowdfunding it and don't have anything more than what is essentially a CryEngine tech demo there is a problem. Oh and also having the audacity to charge 30 bucks for it on steam.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Foxy on December 09, 2018, 03:09:50 pm
Campfire games are brainless talentless hacks.

Just wow.. you are playing my mod and talking shit about a game, I am part of. Good job!  ::)

Yeah bud I have 1k+ on the mod I know you made it. You couldn't help but stick your name into with every chance you got. I loved North and South, it was a quality mod with a good community that I was a big part of, that doesn't mean that your indie kickstarter trash is a good though. Just because you can reskin and write a few lines of code for an already existing game doesn't make you a game developer. It is honestly astonishing how huge you and your dev teams egos are considering you have been working on this "game" for 5 years and its still in alpha. Pathetic.

Battle Cry of Freedom.

I would talk shit about BCoF too but if the mods over here are anything like the ones on the WoR forum I will be instabanned

Preach! Getting banned for memes, shows the quality admining of the WoR forums
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Noorwegian on December 09, 2018, 11:48:21 pm
I can safely assure you that we do not ban people for memes here on the FSE forums ;)
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Foxy on December 10, 2018, 01:59:10 am
I can safely assure you that we do not ban people for memes here on the FSE forums ;)

ty babes, at least we have friends on FSE
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on December 10, 2018, 02:10:27 am
FSE is best forums
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Irish_Warrior on December 10, 2018, 09:18:28 am
I agree with Goomba. Hinkel, you created a beautiful mod. Regardless how you acquired all of those "assets", it was still a great mod to enjoy. I would know because I literally spent five years playing it. Creating a regiment (5thGA) with it, and eventually being apart of communities (DA/CSA) from it. And although I've made some great friends from this mod, it doesn't reflect that there was a ton of issues with the devs...I mean developer. When the Confederate States Army was born, and was trying to revive this mod yet again, I pleaded with you. I offered you money (surprising you didn't take considering that is what it took to get 5th Georgia Skins ingame), and even pointed out how the mod's update could help War of Rights. North and South has been one, if not, the largest and active mod in Mount and Blade. A mod that pretty much held up your War of Rights, and supported it.

But its a shame...

Instead of releasing an "already" made updated stated by your developers, or maybe allowing some of the community members to provide for you (for an update), you said no. It sucks that you really only cared for those friends you made in the beginning of the mod. The ones that you supported while in the Union Army xD. Instead of the veteran players that stayed around in the mod for years and years after. I can go on and on for hours. But it's late.

I look forward to Battle Cry of Freedom. I feel they care more for their community members. And that is what I am looking for.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on December 10, 2018, 05:19:21 pm
I agree with Goomba. Hinkel, you created a beautiful mod. Regardless how you acquired all of those "assets", it was still a great mod to enjoy. I would know because I literally spent five years playing it. Creating a regiment (5thGA) with it, and eventually being apart of communities (DA/CSA) from it. And although I've made some great friends from this mod, it doesn't reflect that there was a ton of issues with the devs...I mean developer. When the Confederate States Army was born, and was trying to revive this mod yet again, I pleaded with you. I offered you money (surprising you didn't take considering that is what it took to get 5th Georgia Skins ingame), and even pointed out how the mod's update could help War of Rights. North and South has been one, if not, the largest and active mod in Mount and Blade. A mod that pretty much held up your War of Rights, and supported it.

But its a shame...

Instead of releasing an "already" made updated stated by your developers, or maybe allowing some of the community members to provide for you (for an update), you said no. It sucks that you really only cared for those friends you made in the beginning of the mod. The ones that you supported while in the Union Army xD. Instead of the veteran players that stayed around in the mod for years and years after. I can go on and on for hours. But it's late.

I look forward to Battle Cry of Freedom. I feel they care more for their community members. And that is what I am looking for.

very well said Irish
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Killobytes on December 14, 2018, 08:48:45 am
It's tragic that this mod with an update nearly ready to go was allowed to turn into straight abandonware.

Honestly War of Rights does not seem viable to me at all for the kind of community we all knew and loved in N&S(The Glory Days of 2015 of course). Battle Cry of Freedom is probably the best hope for all of us, considering it will actually be able to hit server numbers similar to M&B(will probably exceed it too, certainly more people than WoR will ever be able to hit and still be playable), be a lot easier on average computers than fucking Cryengine, and that sweet M&B Directional melee. And they're finally releasing developer update blogs for us to see progress, so the future there looks bright.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on December 21, 2018, 06:34:39 am
The problem with war of rights in very simple, its a game trying to make it to realistic and more of a civil war simulation. And that and a majority of north and south players who majorly supported WoR do not like it being a arma type civil war game. We wanted a North and South mod game, but better that's what you should have done Hinkel. In my opinion simliarly to rocket and Dayz standalone. Some mods make ok to good games.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Unitater on January 03, 2019, 04:36:14 am
The problem with war of rights in very simple, its a game trying to make it to realistic and more of a civil war simulation. And that and a majority of north and south players who majorly supported WoR do not like it being a arma type civil war game. We wanted a North and South mod game, but better that's what you should have done Hinkel. In my opinion simliarly to rocket and Dayz standalone. Some mods make ok to good games.

I agree with moraine. WoR is an excellent game in the regard that it tries to be an immersive simulation game, and I thoroughly enjoyed it within that framework. The trouble lies when you expect it to be an extension of the very unique gameplay and potato compatibility of NaS - which is also a fantastic mod. You can’t compare apples to oranges. Battlecry of freedom (if it ever comes out) will be the closest replacement to NaS
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: John Price on January 03, 2019, 06:49:42 pm
I look forward to Battle Cry of Freedom. I feel they care more for their community members. And that is what I am looking for.
Well keep looking because you won't find that here!
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: michaelsmithern on January 11, 2019, 06:39:49 am
THIS THREAD IS NOW CONTROLLED BY THE EASTERN IRON BRIGADE
proditores factos ad mortem

https://youtu.be/yFlmuamjaHg (https://youtu.be/yFlmuamjaHg)

https://youtu.be/LAjUeRiI8MQ (https://youtu.be/LAjUeRiI8MQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8kSUDp2BC0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8kSUDp2BC0)

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/947345921273133508/2EDEAE0C42CCC446D371E7DD437D1D67736F8F3F/)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N92LX9aLxSQMs2bGpQ_ATTEzCuv-Aiz76R2TUJ3HEIY/edit
Lest we forget the completely retarded 2nd Division Declaration of Independence. And here I thought they didn't know how to make jokes.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: baz44331 on January 16, 2019, 11:36:00 am
I agree with Goomba. Hinkel, you created a beautiful mod. Regardless how you acquired all of those "assets", it was still a great mod to enjoy. I would know because I literally spent five years playing it. Creating a regiment (5thGA) with it, and eventually being apart of communities (DA/CSA) from it. And although I've made some great friends from this mod, it doesn't reflect that there was a ton of issues with the devs...I mean developer. When the Confederate States Army was born, and was trying to revive this mod yet again, I pleaded with you. I offered you money (surprising you didn't take considering that is what it took to get 5th Georgia Skins ingame), and even pointed out how the mod's update could help War of Rights. North and South has been one, if not, the largest and active mod in Mount and Blade. A mod that pretty much held up your War of Rights, and supported it.

But its a shame...

Instead of releasing an "already" made updated stated by your developers, or maybe allowing some of the community members to provide for you (for an update), you said no. It sucks that you really only cared for those friends you made in the beginning of the mod. The ones that you supported while in the Union Army xD. Instead of the veteran players that stayed around in the mod for years and years after. I can go on and on for hours. But it's late.

I look forward to Battle Cry of Freedom. I feel they care more for their community members. And that is what I am looking for.

I worked on N&S for a good wile,

I made some models and alot of textures as well as a map or two and remember it before Hinkle took over the project. There was two of the team i remember very well and for not good reason. I even worked on flags for War of rights only to find out later it was on Hinkle looking for me to make it and not the official team. TBH I could go on as i have every conversation i had with him and others. But ill leave it.

Ill be waiting on Battle Cry of Freedom and when it comes out ill push the community like the old days when i had 3 Regiments at a time and ill back it like no other. You can be 100% sure the old N&S community will come to. O and Hinkle you never made North and South it was made long before you ever went near it, you added content and a very small amount, it was the other guys outside of the main dev team who added the most.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Foxy on January 16, 2019, 07:22:28 pm
THIS THREAD IS NOW CONTROLLED BY THE EASTERN IRON BRIGADE
proditores factos ad mortem

https://youtu.be/yFlmuamjaHg (https://youtu.be/yFlmuamjaHg)

https://youtu.be/LAjUeRiI8MQ (https://youtu.be/LAjUeRiI8MQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8kSUDp2BC0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8kSUDp2BC0)

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/947345921273133508/2EDEAE0C42CCC446D371E7DD437D1D67736F8F3F/)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N92LX9aLxSQMs2bGpQ_ATTEzCuv-Aiz76R2TUJ3HEIY/edit
Lest we forget the completely retarded 2nd Division Declaration of Independence. And here I thought they didn't know how to make jokes.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on January 16, 2019, 07:24:38 pm
Any bets on how long it will be before they lock this thread?
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on January 16, 2019, 10:35:32 pm
idk but looks like some one got salty and deleted that other guys comment
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: James22 on January 17, 2019, 04:39:15 am
idk why this is a discussion WoR won't live up to the mod of NaS
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on January 17, 2019, 05:54:40 am
idk why this is a discussion WoR won't live up to the mod of NaS

thats the main reason for this so all of us old guys can like shit on it
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Windflower on January 17, 2019, 06:31:12 am
SHOUTING THE BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 17, 2019, 09:53:29 am
SHOUTING THE BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Hinkel on January 17, 2019, 11:45:32 am
O and Hinkle you never made North and South it was made long before you ever went near it, you added content and a very small amount, it was the other guys outside of the main dev team who added the most.

Thank you for your input Baz.
I still have the very first version of North and South on my disk (release was 2012, same year as NW), it was made by Nytech and me, so WE (also Mailman was a big help in the beginning) are the main dev team and founders of the mod for NW. Even Olafson and Vincenzo could proof that (old forum files and conversation about the new mod installer for NW). I have no idea whats up with "When Hinkel took over"? I never joined a dev team, since Nytech and me started this mod for NW. Like I said, I still have the very first version of the mod on my disk, the installer, the files and such.

Before NW got released, I was part of the secession mod team, but Nytech and me switched to NW, once it got released and started to work on North and South. You could also ask Azrooh (old secession mod member) as well as other veterans of NaS.
I have no idea, why you say that North and South was made long before and not by me? The mod was originally made by Nytech and me, thats a fact.
You can have a look at the progress at moddb and have a look at the old articles: https://www.moddb.com/mods/north-south-first-manassas/articles

Yes, we used a bunch of stuff from other mods (with permission), for example of another mod I were part of (The Blue and the Grey for Empire Total War). The first uniform models were original made by Primergy, who worked on the Blue and the Grey and North and South (for NTW) with me. He can also proof that. 
The dev team changed in 2014/15 and Parrot joined the ranks. There the uniforms changed again, which were now made by DocM, for me.

We also used the weapons of the Secession mod, which original were made for the Wild West MP mod.
And yes, I am very much aware that you made flags for North and South, which are still in the mod :)

Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Hinkel on January 17, 2019, 12:41:37 pm
I agree with Goomba. Hinkel, you created a beautiful mod. Regardless how you acquired all of those "assets", it was still a great mod to enjoy.

I am still very much proud of North and South and always looking back at the development time.
Seems you are a bit salty about "how you acquired those assets". They were shared by other mods (buildings and map props most of them), the uniforms were made by Primergy (you can see his work in North and South for Napoleon Total War). His uniforms were part of the mod from the first version in 2012 until 2014/15.

When we started to work on a new version with Parrot and Kanade, Docm (L'Aigle) provided the new look of the uniform, which I payed for. These uniforms and variations of it are part of the current mod version.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Nytech on January 17, 2019, 07:11:25 pm
Quote
O and Hinkle you never made North and South it was made long before you ever went near it, you added content and a very small amount, it was the other guys outside of the main dev team who added the most.

Hello Baz,

could you maybe provide some proof that supports your claim that Hinkel (and I) never made NaS? Instead of spreading accusations and false info, which you are doing with your statement, you should think about what you want to tell. Because right now I can only tell that you are lying.

I joined a Regiment that played Secession back in the days (~2011) and I really loved that mod. I loved it that much that I got in touch with Azrooh (Head coder for the mod and one of the main devs) and asked him how I could help improve it.

I started to make buildings and walls so we could implement the same system mmrussia3 (aka. Mount 'n Musket)had. After some time I met Hinkel, and he asked me if we want to make a ACW mod for NW as soon as it releases. So we worked on implementing models from ETW mods and others, for which he had full permissions since Hinkel was in also a Main Dev in most of them, I was the guy who imported nearly everything, rigged everything, made new stuff, made a lot of animations (some of which are also used by other mods, like my musket reload) and did a lot of code work, while Hinkel was the brain and knew what had to be at the right spot. Regiment names, naming and other decissions, Community work, Videos and Pictures etc. basicaly a good combo, since I knew what I was doing, and so was he.
Ask NW Dev Vincenzo, I annoyed the poor guy every free hour I had to ask stuff about the code, since we also got permission to use source code and installer code that wasn't available for everyone at the time.

We never joined a Dev Team. Infact, and poor Hinkel can proof that, I was the one blocking new members since I had my own workflow and did not need another guy messing with code or brf work. Only small donations or little work was accepted.

I had vacation from school at the time and was working on NaS day and night. And god damnit I will not accept a statement like yours for something Hinkel and I put a lot of our time in!
The Updater (Which was something special for a mod) was also made by me. reverse engineer it and you will see my name everywhere in the Code. Hinkel had also the good idea to put our names into the Credits, which you can click on in the Menu. Both of our names are on the top since version one back in 2012
Try to find a Version which came out before our. Guess what, you won't find anything.

Since I kind of went silent after some years ,beeing busy with life and school (but also disliking what happened to the community, some people will remember the LB crisis where only the Armys had large LBs and everything outside of an Army was pretty much doomed to fail) I had to leave NaS behind. But I never officially left the Dev Team. I was always ready to work again if help was really needed.

But NaS was my first big mod I spent a lot of time working on (So did Hinkel!), and I will always love it. It gave me much insight into the whole modding topic and helped me as a proof of work for my modding work over at Arma 3. And as such I find it really saddened that people like you throw random statements into the world.

My message may seems a bit cluttered, but I just came from uni and saw what you wrote here. And I can't accept that.



Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: michaelsmithern on January 17, 2019, 07:44:52 pm
When 2nd Division didn't mention the Eastern Iron Brigade and all their banter in their declaration of independence
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JdO6YTcFnEo/hqdefault.jpg)

>Francis: I'm gonna revive the North and south community
(https://i.imgur.com/JkhdD6O.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Mailman653 on January 17, 2019, 09:01:44 pm
I haven't been around this community in several years since the end of development of Bello Civili so I can't comment on the status of community for M&B and N&S. I can comment on some of the development of N&S. I started modding N&S for my own personal use though eventually the mod grew to the point where I got in touch with Hinkel to try to bring back the mod (at this time Hink had stepped away for a while and was no longer working on it), eventually we collaborated and worked to bring back the mod and I personally helped in some of the iterations there after.

With that being said, I agree with what Hink and Nytech has said previously about the mod and permissions and such, I can personally attest to Hink trying his hardest to try to secure things for us, talking to the people who needed talking to and in a few cases when we didn't get permission for something, we'd remove it, simple as that. Could there been misunderstandings along the way? Of course, people work hard for what they create and want the proper recognition but as I stated above, Hinkel always tried his hardest to secure us the assets and if there was something we couldn't use, it would be removed.

And to say that we've only added a handful of things and spent very little time on it is preposterous. We would literally spend hours a day working on this mod, sometimes all I'd do is wake in the morning, work on the mod and then go to sleep at night. All of this was our choice and our time expecting little to no compensation other than the satisfaction of providing the community with something fun which we too had fun making.

I won't comment on WoR as I personally haven't worked on that project.

I'll just conclude with, N&S has been around a long time with a very long development history which has been enjoyed by hundreds of people over the years. I understand the passion behind something that you love to play. Enjoy the game, enjoy the mod, play other games, critique and praise when it is due but don't make assumptions about the people who worked hard and spent countless hours on making something for the community because at the end of the day, we didn't make N&S for ourselves, we made it for all of you. 
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Captain America on January 18, 2019, 01:41:55 am
Right I just have to say, I got North and South right when it came out and even joined a regiment for the first time in my life, and the then 7th Cavalry current 32nd in everything else will always be one of the best gaming of my life. The moment I heard about War of Rights I was excited as all hell. Greatest tragedy on earth is I can't afford a machine that runs the thing but by God it is one of the best games I've ever had the pleasure to play and that all came from a really small modding team on a really small expansion of a really small game. If you can't feel pride in that and only criticise then that's on you, but I am so incredibly proud of the team and all they've done for us. If you want to criticise then sure, do so, but please do so from a place of love because without this lot you'd still be in Napoleonic doing fucking all v bots
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 18, 2019, 12:11:27 pm
 ::) drama in 2019
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on January 18, 2019, 05:51:50 pm
::) drama in 2019
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on January 18, 2019, 05:55:53 pm
::) drama in 2019
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Unitater on January 18, 2019, 07:07:00 pm
::) drama in 2019
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2019, 09:30:01 pm
::) drama in 2019

Oh yes, I am sorry.
I am not allowed to defend myself, if some guys are talking shit about me or the mod. Spreading out false information.

At least you don't have to spend money for a Netflix subscribtion, to get some good drama ;)
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 18, 2019, 11:08:52 pm
::) drama in 2019

Oh yes, I am sorry.
I am not allowed to defend myself, if some guys are talking shit about me or the mod. Spreading out false information.

At least you don't have to spend money for a Netflix subscribtion, to get some good drama ;)
bruh chill no one said anything about you defending yourself the whole thing is just stupid lol.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on January 19, 2019, 04:41:59 am
::) drama in 2019

Oh yes, I am sorry.
I am not allowed to defend myself, if some guys are talking shit about me or the mod. Spreading out false information.

At least you don't have to spend money for a Netflix subscribtion, to get some good drama ;)

bruh chill no one said anything about you defending yourself the whole thing is just stupid lol.

I'm enjoying this thread idk about you guys
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Duke Of LongTree on January 19, 2019, 04:52:47 am
its kinda like my blood and iron thread till it got locked
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: baz44331 on January 19, 2019, 12:08:09 pm
::) drama in 2019

Oh yes, I am sorry.
I am not allowed to defend myself, if some guys are talking shit about me or the mod. Spreading out false information.

At least you don't have to spend money for a Netflix subscribtion, to get some good drama ;)

HAHA your funny. O and yes Hinkle we all know it was the Secession mod long before N&S I didn't think I need to spell it out because it was totally obvious. also did you say i just have flags? 79th Highlanders textures are done by me and i model the hat and other small parts of them units. The only person who talks shit is you.. Hell you had me work on art for WOR for a long time to tell me it was only for you hahahaha. Fool me, fool me.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 19, 2019, 12:37:32 pm
::) drama in 2019

Oh yes, I am sorry.
I am not allowed to defend myself, if some guys are talking shit about me or the mod. Spreading out false information.

At least you don't have to spend money for a Netflix subscribtion, to get some good drama ;)

HAHA your funny. O and yes Hinkle we all know it was the Secession mod long before N&S I didn't think I need to spell it out because it was totally obvious. also did you say i just have flags? 79th Highlanders textures are done by me and i model the hat and other small parts of them units. The only person who talks shit is you.. Hell you had me work on art for WOR for a long time to tell me it was only for you hahahaha. Fool me, fool me.
No one actually cares about you. In fact no one here has ever heard of you who has relevantly played the mod. Smh people will do whatever for clout.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Nytech on January 19, 2019, 02:16:27 pm
Honestly, this thread really goes into the drama direction...

baz, not sure what your problem is, but if you want attention then do something better than spreading false accusations or unneccessary info.


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O and yes Hinkle we all know it was the Secession mod long before N&S
What the hell? We already clearyfied that we were the successor of Secession, just for NW and not for regular Warband. We were allowed to use everything from Secession, and even got support from Azrooh who was, with Hinkel, one of the last active developers of that mod...

At this point I will just wait for you to finaly give us some evidence for what you're saying the whole time.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: baz44331 on January 19, 2019, 02:18:03 pm
::) drama in 2019

Oh yes, I am sorry.
I am not allowed to defend myself, if some guys are talking shit about me or the mod. Spreading out false information.

At least you don't have to spend money for a Netflix subscribtion, to get some good drama ;)

HAHA your funny. O and yes Hinkle we all know it was the Secession mod long before N&S I didn't think I need to spell it out because it was totally obvious. also did you say i just have flags? 79th Highlanders textures are done by me and i model the hat and other small parts of them units. The only person who talks shit is you.. Hell you had me work on art for WOR for a long time to tell me it was only for you hahahaha. Fool me, fool me.
No one actually cares about you. In fact no one here has ever heard of you who has relevantly played the mod. Smh people will do whatever for clout.
I don't want you or anyone to care LOL what are you talking about?. Anyway it dont matter if you have never heard of me and again what are you talking about??? The guys from FH community,N&S, 1st NC, Dixieland Army,24INF,1st SCR and the list go's on all know who i am but how that matters i dont know. anyway we just leave it all here BCOF will be our next community.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: baz44331 on January 19, 2019, 02:22:22 pm
Honestly, this thread really goes into the drama direction...

baz, not sure what your problem is, but if you want attention then do something better than spreading false accusations or unneccessary info.


Quote
O and yes Hinkle we all know it was the Secession mod long before N&S
What the hell? We already clearyfied that we were the successor of Secession, just for NW and not for regular Warband. We were allowed to use everything from Secession, and even got support from Azrooh who was, with Hinkel, one of the last active developers of that mod...

At this point I will just wait for you to finaly give us some evidence for what you're saying the whole time.

whats false? everything i said was true. I was working one year for hinkle on art that he requested for WORs. then when he told me before i even finsihed the art no we have changed how we add art in WOR so i dont need your work anymore sry. I have the flags here i can show if you like but it dont matter.
https://i.imgur.com/JZTh54I.png

also check the size of that flag and you will see it matches WOR flag size as Hinkel game me the size.

Also I did add alot of art to N&S, and 79th Highlanders was my art and i did model the parts. so whats false?????

also I gave Hinkel a huge amount of Art before i went to Syria with the army in 2013. it was huge amount of content which i see on some art in WORs. thats why i rage. i come back one year later he tells me.. Hay i have a game now.. can you make me some flags, i was ok I will help as i was sick at the time and had noting to do for many months. I help and he make a tool out of my work. SO WHATS FUCKING FALSE???
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Goomba_ on January 19, 2019, 07:45:15 pm

Smh people will do whatever for clout.

You would know about that
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 20, 2019, 08:58:46 am

Smh people will do whatever for clout.

You would know about that
tough times
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Dredd on January 23, 2019, 11:25:16 am
Indeed

What's the relationship like between FSE and CG
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Lilja Adolfsdóttir on January 23, 2019, 01:54:43 pm
Indeed

What's the relationship like between FSE and CG
I would guess not good. When WoR was about to start their kickstarter campaign with all they got, fse just announced their alpha for next year or so one day before the campaign, without having anything, and deleted then consequently WoR Posts^^
But who knows.
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 24, 2019, 01:35:56 am
Indeed

What's the relationship like between FSE and CG
I would guess not good. When WoR was about to start their kickstarter campaign with all they got, fse just announced their alpha for next year or so one day before the campaign, without having anything, and deleted then consequently WoR Posts^^
But who knows.
the god has spoken  8)
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Forgotfulking on January 24, 2019, 03:08:45 am
Indeed

What's the relationship like between FSE and CG
I would guess not good. When WoR was about to start their kickstarter campaign with all they got, fse just announced their alpha for next year or so one day before the campaign, without having anything, and deleted then consequently WoR Posts^^
But who knows.
the god has spoken  8)

Moraine the mod is dead big guy you can stop sucking dick now
Smh goomba if you think thats sucking dick you need to walk out of your door in dallas and get a quickie
Title: Re: RIP North and South (Take 2)
Post by: Henry M. on January 25, 2019, 03:37:34 am
The Union Army is Created For North and South @ Battle Cry of Freedom for who wants to revive the mod.