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Title: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 04, 2016, 01:14:50 pm
Heya my NA buddies

For my term, I think I will mix things up abit as far as the update thread goes.

The purpose of this thread (or at least, my part of it, riddlez may use it differently) is just so people can notify me of whatever they feel needs my attention, or if some event worthy of discussion happens.

I do plan to host some events like my predecessors, but instead of posting about it here (where not alot of people lurk, it seems) I will just seek out people who I feel may be interested in said events.

My preferred method of contact will remain steam, however, and if you really need a response from me just add me! (Steam name is my name!)

Thanks

AP0C
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Riddlez on September 04, 2016, 01:19:41 pm
Do you want this to be a shared NA/Eu thread or should I make a seperate one?

EDIT: I would indeed love this to be a public palce to share ideas. There are some matters that I personally will be looking into and in two weeks, I will start actively talking to regiments on the EU side.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 04, 2016, 01:22:19 pm
You are free to mark down your own policy and use this thread as well xP.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Riddlez on September 04, 2016, 04:22:23 pm
I am currently digging into the 63e matter, along with any involvement of Karth in the entire picture.

I will put this to rest once and for all.

UPDATE: after a productive talk with parts of the German community and FSE head moderator, VonBergen is now German language boardmoderator, replacing KArantukki.
I wish VonBergen good luck in his new position
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 05, 2016, 01:45:21 am
I am currently digging into the 63e matter, along with any involvement of Karth in the entire picture.

I will put this to rest once and for all.

I wish you the best of luck with that. That's a lot of pent up anti-Karth feelings over a stupendously long period of time you're going to have to be dealing with.

Let's face the music on this matter really, though there is an anti-63e sentiment within the community I think you'll find upon digging deeper more of it is simply anti-Karth sentiment. I for one have been a member of this community longer than people credit me for and I have only heard a tiny handful of people say that they legitimately are full on anti-63e and everything they do. 9/10 times however what it boils down to is them being anti-Karth. Some of the tails I have heard and some of the stuff I've seen going on in the forums I will raise my hand and say I am in the anti-Karth sentiment camp.

I wish you a lot of luck in this epic undertaking Riddlez xD I doubt it's something that can be done in a single CR's time.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Karth on September 05, 2016, 05:06:37 am
Lol anti-Karth, more like started by a bunch of salty ex-63e members who influenced a bunch of other bandwagoners, and now I get blamed for almost every single punishment given out of these forums.  I am not complaining, but again just know this 'anti-Karth' stuff is full of nothing.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 05, 2016, 05:11:04 am
Lol anti-Karth, more like started by a bunch of salty ex-63e members who influenced a bunch of other bandwagoners, and now I get blamed for almost every single punishment given out of these forums.  I am not complaining, but again just know this 'anti-Karth' stuff is full of nothing.
im not an ex 63e or a bandwagoner ???
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 05, 2016, 02:23:31 pm
Lol anti-Karth, more like started by a bunch of salty ex-63e members who influenced a bunch of other bandwagoners, and now I get blamed for almost every single punishment given out of these forums.  I am not complaining, but again just know this 'anti-Karth' stuff is full of nothing.

It's this utter lack of understanding that is a big part of the problem. You sit on your high horse and make your poncy claims and take 0 effort to take a step back and go "so why has this happened?". How about trying to be the mature person you claim to be and vouch to work alongside the CRs in trying to solve the problems, instead of making silly remarks like this that only add to the fire.

I am not a bandwagoner. I am an ex-63e but not for long enough for that to be the area of my anti-Karth sentiment to have come from. I enjoyed my time in the 63e but left as the reason I joined was to try and assist in the forming of an EU section for the Compagnie de Chasseurs à Pied. When it was clear it was not going to ammount to anything I quietly left with no hard feelings or bitterness.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 05, 2016, 02:29:45 pm
As well, you take no personal responsibility for your actions, remove criticism, and take the moral high ground. It's like you won't even consider the possibility that you are in the wrong.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 05, 2016, 07:00:13 pm
Down with the 63e regime!!!!!!!!!11
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 05, 2016, 07:27:37 pm
Down with the 63e regime!!!!!!!!!11

Shush your memes

If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 05, 2016, 09:30:43 pm
Lol anti-Karth, more like started by a bunch of salty ex-63e members who influenced a bunch of other bandwagoners, and now I get blamed for almost every single punishment given out of these forums.  I am not complaining, but again just know this 'anti-Karth' stuff is full of nothing.
Even if "anti-Karth stuff is full of nothing"  you are still so unpopular (hated) smart company would remove you but FSE doesn't cares they are just milking few people who believe BCoF is gonna ever be released. But we all know you are just arrogant as fuck and we got so much on you. It is just a matter of question if FSE will listen to CRs or it will be proven CRs have no power what so ever.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 05, 2016, 09:56:58 pm
If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there and it's a little crazy, you could do your duty as the NA CR and try and assist in getting the matter solved. The EU CR has pledged to help and to be frank it's not his problem! It's an NA problem.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 05, 2016, 10:03:35 pm
If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there and it's a little crazy, you could do your duty as the NA CR and try and assist in getting the matter solved. The EU CR has pledged to help and to be frank it's not his problem! It's an NA problem.
Just because the EU 63e hasn't started the things the NA side did doesn't mean they won't. 63e is an EU and NA problem
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 05, 2016, 10:21:52 pm
I'm confused, what has the 63e started.. lol. You guys are just delusional at this point.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Yorkshire Pudding on September 05, 2016, 10:36:16 pm
If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there and it's a little crazy, you could do your duty as the NA CR and try and assist in getting the matter solved. The EU CR has pledged to help and to be frank it's not his problem! It's an NA problem.
Just because the EU 63e hasn't started the things the NA side did doesn't mean they won't. 63e is an EU and NA problem

And I thought you liked me Theoden ;)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 05, 2016, 10:54:27 pm
If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there and it's a little crazy, you could do your duty as the NA CR and try and assist in getting the matter solved. The EU CR has pledged to help and to be frank it's not his problem! It's an NA problem.
It's also EU problem since Karth shits on us as well.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 05, 2016, 11:07:47 pm
I've never understood why you guys can't all just get on a  TS and have a conversation, rather than wasting time and effort coming on a forum to throw shade at each other. Also I fail to see what the regiment fundamentally does wrong in EU or NA. I mean no one has ever actually written a comprehensive list of objective points which sum up why they are in opposition to the 63e's existence. Perhaps if the group of individuals, who have this negative stance to us worked together to create such a list, then maybe we could collectively look at how we (as a community) could address these points. Simply making harsh yet vague assertions that we are 'cancerous' or a 'problem', doesn't actually aid the situation but rather creates tension in the community. Just to be clear, I am not advocating that we are perfect, every regiment goes through ups and downs and every regiment has flaws. However it has got to the stage where it feels like anything and everything we do is condemned by the NA community (and I mention NA simply because I have not noted such a negative response in the EU community) regardless of what it is.

I'm not really here to have an argument but more to state my thoughts. Any response to this I would appreciate if it was civil and objective discussion.   

It's also EU problem since Karth shits on us as well.

I really do fail to see your logic behind this statement, in what way has Karth or indeed any other 63e NCO/CO 'shat' on the EU community, in recent history.

ffs camperz #63eTactics

Considering the fact that I have been leading the majority of EU 1v1s/NWLs for the past half a year (a large amount of which have been recorded and show a very close quarters leading style), not to mention the point that the 1v1s/NWLs which Karth has led in the EU have been very CQC matches (again you can look at the recordings), your accusation is one of ignorance to be honest. Again this supports my initial suggestion that, certainly in the case of some individuals, your views on the 63e are outdated and need to be re-evaluated.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 05, 2016, 11:10:04 pm
ffs camperz #63eTactics
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: William on September 05, 2016, 11:11:31 pm
ap0c, I need your advice: What should I get for dinner? I want it to be like memes, hot and spicy
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 05, 2016, 11:38:50 pm
the NA side of NW has been taken over by the 63e. Save the Eu while you still have the chance
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 05, 2016, 11:59:36 pm
If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there and it's a little crazy, you could do your duty as the NA CR and try and assist in getting the matter solved. The EU CR has pledged to help and to be frank it's not his problem! It's an NA problem.
Just because the EU 63e hasn't started the things the NA side did doesn't mean they won't. 63e is an EU and NA problem

And I thought you liked me Theoden ;)
Seeing as how I didn't mention you, haven't talked to you, and you spelt my name wrong, I don't know where you got your assumptions from.
I like a lot of the 63e NCO's, especially on the EU side.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 12:09:38 am
this clown is our community rep? lol for crying out loud
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on September 06, 2016, 12:15:39 am
this clown is our community rep? lol for crying out loud

BILLY!!
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 06, 2016, 12:39:27 am
Munj you need to learn how to take a joke man
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 01:00:16 am
Munj you need to learn how to take a joke man

Hard to take a joke when your regiment is constantly bombarded for being active, having fun, and doing things that the majority of other regiments don't take the time to do and then point fingers expecting the same results as the regiment that actually takes their time to do things their own way.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 06, 2016, 01:16:37 am
GeneralSquirts you need to learn how to take a joke man
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 02:58:13 am
If you want this whole thing to end, you and karth are gonna have to take this seriously tbh.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there and it's a little crazy, you could do your duty as the NA CR and try and assist in getting the matter solved. The EU CR has pledged to help and to be frank it's not his problem! It's an NA problem.

Hard to solve an issue when they aren't taking it seriously, partially what I was implying. Though of course, you dont seem to understand anything we are talking about here. Please stay out of my business.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Locust on September 06, 2016, 04:10:54 am
What about you guys talk about it on TS...
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 04:16:55 am
Lol anti-Karth, more like started by a bunch of salty ex-63e members who influenced a bunch of other bandwagoners, and now I get blamed for almost every single punishment given out of these forums.  I am not complaining, but again just know this 'anti-Karth' stuff is full of nothing.
I'm neither but I still hate karf > : )
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 06, 2016, 04:53:01 am
"I have no idea why everyone dislikes us. OY VEY, what did we ever do wrong to deserve this"
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 05:48:54 am
I thought I would write out why I personally dislike Karth and the 63e. I’m going to try to keep it organized so perhaps they can understand why I dislike them and we can attempt to fix the problems of the galaxy!

Spoiler
I hate the 63e for a number of reasons.
•   Owning 63e NA siege.
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.

•   Refusing to do 1v1s/refusing to participate in leagues in NA.
The 63e are the biggest regiment in NA and they refuse consistently refuse to do 1v1s against other regiments that are trying keep the competitive side of NA NW alive. For example, I’ve heard instances where the 63e have refused to do a 1v1 simply because the regiment that is asking has not been around for longer than a year. Another reason is because the other regiment is “On a level higher than the 71st” and an even more common response is them never responding or putting it off. The 63e also host many internal group fighting tournaments and other competitive things such as inter regimental 1v1s and yet they express time and again that they are bored of the competitive side of NW. Karth and some of the other leaders do anyway. The 63e ran NANWL and there was a lot of controversy surrounding that as well as the people who were somehow put in charge and stayed that way not because they did a good job but simply because they were in the 63e and the 63e supported them. They have refused to participate in tnwl I don’t really blame them though because tnwl is lacking guidance and it seems that Jorge doesn’t give a flying fuck about it at all. They were also disappointed that NA vs EU season 2 was a groupfight instead of another linebattle so they are planning to host their own NA vs EU linebattle and they posted the thread with sign ups at the same time that the original NA vs EU was being organized. This goes against basic forum educate which has been around since the start of fse. You don’t post a thread hosting the same sort of tournament when one is already up and in the process of being carried out. This is a perfect example of how the 63e have no respect and do not care about the community in the slightest.

TLDR 63e pick and choose 1v1s and tournaments and then boycott others for stupid reasons.

•   Banning people from their community/TeamSpeak for no reason/bad reasons.
The 63e have created a lot of bad blood within the community as they permanently ban people from their teamspeak with no reason or remorse. There have been several cases where people have left the 63e 3 times and have been permanently banned from the teamspeak because of it. Many of those players have simply quit NW or do not like playing in linebattles anymore and because of that they are unable to hangout with the people they have been hanging out with for several years potentially. Other people are just randomly banned by Karth or Offizer without reason and permanently.
•   Leading shitty 200 man events where 63e are first pick of most of the special classes. They also host on days that already have set events but they soon take over as they already have 100+ players to play and only need few regiments to fill up the event. Meaning that the other event has trouble finding people to play in it with the dying community and eventually gives up. 63e only participate in their own events keeping 63e players even more wrapped up in the 63e. 

•   Their feeling of superiority towards other regiments because they have not namechanged or disbanded for such a longtime.
Anyone who has been in the community for along time has been faced with the 63e looking down at you for changing your name or disbanding or moving regiments. Much of the officer staff of the 63e have a superiority complex. Meaning they have an attitude of superiority towards everyone that they talk to in the community.   

•   Assholes/Sketchy things
The 63e has done a shit load of sketchy things and they have a huge number of condescending assholes in their ranks. Im not going to name any names *cough* squirts* cough* beanbean* Cough*Offizer Cough*
•   Karth
Karth has done so much shit I can’t even begin to write it or else this will probably become a 10,000 essay. If you look through fse I am sure you can easily find many examples.
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There are many other things I could add to this essay but I cant be bothered. Maybe other people can correct me and make some additions. Also im reading this back and i'm p tired so im not sure how much sense this makes but hopefully it does. Also sry I pulled a coconut

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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 06:26:29 am
What about you guys talk about it on TS...
Sure , *12seconds later* hi karth! *permanently banned from ts,reason: troll"
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 11:47:04 am
Considering pushing for the community lists threads to get moved back to the community board.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 01:47:16 pm
Considering pushing for the community lists threads to get moved back to the community board.

Thoughts?
Yes please it's more accessible.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 06, 2016, 02:28:26 pm
Considering pushing for the community lists threads to get moved back to the community board.

Thoughts?
theres too much banter for them to be in the community section
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 02:50:36 pm
Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.

2. 63e refusing to do 1v1s/leagues.

Saying the 63e refuses to go ito competitive leagues shows the ignorance in your post. The 63e has done pretty much every NWL league to date and have always ended up in the top 3 consistently, so Idk where you get the fact we refuse leagues. As to why we refuse certain 1v1s, I believe it was a while back when our NWL line collapsed and we were tryong to rebuild it that we did 1v1s /2v2s with the 71dt, 3eVolt, and 4th at the time. We beought newer players to these and the feedback we got from them wad that they didn't enjoy it because 1. The other teams were cancer/negative to the point of no enjoyment or 2. We got tked / attacked by friendly lines during competitive 2v2s. So our people pretty much disliked doing 1v1s and 2v2s for that reason and we were not going to force 30+ people to do something they don't have fun with. So if you want anyone to blame, blame the regiments that can't have self control for like an hour of the day, because that caused new members of the community to actually leave in our case. People get called out for being 63e on public servers, they got picked on for being owleta, shit like that lol. So yeah, maybe you didn't know that so now you know. Plus anyways we got back to doing 1v1d since about 3 weeks ago, so okay lol.

3. 63e banning people on TS.

I'm 100% sure this is because of your perm ban. I believe you came to our event and posed as Offizer, who was Colonel at the time, on the in game server. And I helieved you tked a few times on purpose to make it look like ray did it, so he just perm banned you on the spot.  So yeah, shows the type of person you were at the time. As for the three times leaving, we value loyalty and don't like soible reggers. A lot of regiments do let double regging occur, when tbh that's  what kills competitive. Regiments letting people double reg kills competitive scenes. Because a regiments skill is never their own most of the time. Imagine if like olofmeister just hoped on  whatever team he wanted to and went to whatever match he pleased. So yeah, we value loyalty and punish people who 1. Double reg or 2. Leave a certain amount of times / reg hop. That is in our right to exercize.

4. Everything else you stated.

What. Lol.

EDIT: love how you added me to that asshole list after I responded to your post. Guess anyone who conflicts with your thoughts is an asshole. Good philosophy, will take you very far in life.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 03:12:54 pm
Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 03:13:56 pm
Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

As for the server, it does no actual harm to the community. A regiment getting recruits doesn't harm a community. And I know the next response to that statement is "Not when you're the only regiment with a server!!". Yeah, but no. We aren't the only regiment that pays for their own server and has their own rules pertaining to that server. So yeah, sorry but that's life. You get what you pay for, and if you don't pay at all then don't be surprised if you don't prosper from it. And then when you say "That's fucked up, only think about yourselves and not the other regiments!" The fuck? The same regiments that shit talk us on every inch of servers / forums / w.e third party programs they use. The same regiments that could give a fuck if we were in the dirt? I remember when I came into the regiment as a Cadet in March 2015. I went on NA_GF I think then, and I literally got called "63e pig" and "63e dog", not even joking on that either. Till this day our cadets get picked on, new people in the community that you guys try to defend and say that we leech, but apparently because they have 63e tags, they are not part of "this community" anymore. So take off the masks of being victimized by our server, because it's sad and there's no actual facts behind it. At the end of the day it's because you fail to make your own server and fail to put in the same time that 10+ NCOs from both our NA/EU side do on the daily. Hell, there was a time when I legitimately cared for the whole of the community before I came onto these forums and started going on NA_Groupfighting daily. That's when you see the true side of this community. So yeah, could care less about "the community". In terms of all of the hot heads and egomaniancs who play only 1v1s and stay out of the actual community. The ONLY person who still does a lot of stuff in the NA side of the actual in-game community is Thunderstormer and the Thursday Pub LB he does. That's the actual community. Not the fucking 6-5 year veterans that sit on these forums, most of whom don't touch the game before cause they always whine about it dying, and shit on the newer people on the community. Not the people who sit in a corner of their basement and cry bully their way into a spotlight for a few seconds. "The community" isn't the competitive lines only, sorry but it isn't. The moment you realize it, the more you may have a chance at prospering yourselves. The real community are the people who attend that Thursday Pub LB and are open to everyone instead of remaining introverted and closed in, only to come out and spread tears on the regiments that don't follow the same marketing strategy. Like, jesus. Lol.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 03:17:44 pm
Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

Read this again maybe then you will make sense out of my post:
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 03:33:00 pm
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Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

Read this again maybe then you will make sense out of my post:
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.
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1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.

Think you missed the part before it, so perhaps you actually need to read a bit. Also, 63e Siege killed NA1... Lol.. You should go on NA1 on a Thursday, tell me how dead it is. Also, the 63e has about 30+ members who are 1 year veterans or above, so you're just absolutely gone mad mate. For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 04:31:20 pm
"Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?"
Saying something like that is extremely condescending and exactly what I would expect out of someone in a position of authority in the 63e.

3. 63e banning people on TS.

I'm 100% sure this is because of your perm ban. I believe you came to our event and posed as Offizer, who was Colonel at the time, on the in game server. And I helieved you tked a few times on purpose to make it look like ray did it, so he just perm banned you on the spot.  So yeah, shows the type of person you were at the time. As for the three times leaving, we value loyalty and don't like soible reggers. A lot of regiments do let double regging occur, when tbh that's  what kills competitive. Regiments letting people double reg kills competitive scenes. Because a regiments skill is never their own most of the time. Imagine if like olofmeister just hoped on  whatever team he wanted to and went to whatever match he pleased. So yeah, we value loyalty and punish people who 1. Double reg or 2. Leave a certain amount of times / reg hop. That is in our right to exercise.

It is your right to have rules in place but punishing someone like cluelesswill who is hardly a reg hopper and just happened to leave your regiment 3 times since 2012 and has been hanging out with people from the 63e including yourself since 2012 is cruel and unusual punishment and makes people in the community hate you. Silly rules that excommunicate players from communities are stupid and should be done away with. Secondly I was permanently banned from the 63e server when I wasn't even connected for coming into the server during a training announcing in teamspeak that I was playing as Offizer and then participating in the training. Another example of a banning which is perfectly within your rights is the banning of Dukers from the 63e teamspeak. He went in the teamspeak as a 2ndary rep for his regiment during a 63e organized linebattle and was then permanently banned from the teamspeak after entering a 63e channel and asking for the info to the server while they were in the event. These are not secular cases either this has happened many times and has made the 63e many enemies.


Also I had you on the asshole list to begin with im not sure wtf you're talking about..
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 04:39:28 pm
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Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

Read this again maybe then you will make sense out of my post:
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.
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1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.

Think you missed the part before it, so perhaps you actually need to read a bit. Also, 63e Siege killed NA1... Lol.. You should go on NA1 on a Thursday, tell me how dead it is. Also, the 63e has about 30+ members who are 1 year veterans or above, so you're just absolutely gone mad mate. For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
Retard? These are taken at the same time btw.
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 06, 2016, 04:55:09 pm
I was permanently banned from your ts because I was in your ts..
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 04:57:21 pm
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"Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?"
Saying something like that is extremely condescending and exactly what I would expect out of someone in a position of authority in the 63e.

3. 63e banning people on TS.

I'm 100% sure this is because of your perm ban. I believe you came to our event and posed as Offizer, who was Colonel at the time, on the in game server. And I helieved you tked a few times on purpose to make it look like ray did it, so he just perm banned you on the spot.  So yeah, shows the type of person you were at the time. As for the three times leaving, we value loyalty and don't like soible reggers. A lot of regiments do let double regging occur, when tbh that's  what kills competitive. Regiments letting people double reg kills competitive scenes. Because a regiments skill is never their own most of the time. Imagine if like olofmeister just hoped on  whatever team he wanted to and went to whatever match he pleased. So yeah, we value loyalty and punish people who 1. Double reg or 2. Leave a certain amount of times / reg hop. That is in our right to exercise.

It is your right to have rules in place but punishing someone like cluelesswill who is hardly a reg hopper and just happened to leave your regiment 3 times since 2012 and has been hanging out with people from the 63e including yourself since 2012 is cruel and unusual punishment and makes people in the community hate you. Silly rules that excommunicate players from communities are stupid and should be done away with. Secondly I was permanently banned from the 63e server when I wasn't even connected for coming into the server during a training announcing in teamspeak that I was playing as Offizer and then participating in the training. Another example of a banning which is perfectly within your rights is the banning of Dukers from the 63e teamspeak. He went in the teamspeak as a 2ndary rep for his regiment during a 63e organized linebattle and was then permanently banned from the teamspeak after entering a 63e channel and asking for the info to the server while they were in the event. These are not secular cases either this has happened many times and has made the 63e many enemies.


Also I had you on the asshole list to begin with im not sure wtf you're talking about..
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I personally don't know CluelessWill, so I don't actually know him at all. I've only seen him come to Officers channel here and there, never really participated with the current community. But I hear good things, I wasn't even aware he got banned to be honest. It is fully in your opinion if you choose to not like our policies, that is your right. As for your ban and Dukers, I fail to see your point. You got banned for impersonating an officer. As for the Dukers ban, I don't know if you realized, but the 1tes at the time were banned from our events for 1. Consistently breaking rules in servers 2. Teamkilling other regiments/bush pirating. He came into the TS into our event channel during an event and actually was disruptive during the event, we just banned him because we don't want banned individuals to be able to come and troll since it happens a lot. Again, within our right to do so. But from most of this hate, sounds more like personal affliction with not following our rules in our servers and then being mad about getting the consequence of doing so. Either way, you can always have personal animosity against our rules, but it always grows into anti-63e everything.

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Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

Read this again maybe then you will make sense out of my post:
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.
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1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.

Think you missed the part before it, so perhaps you actually need to read a bit. Also, 63e Siege killed NA1... Lol.. You should go on NA1 on a Thursday, tell me how dead it is. Also, the 63e has about 30+ members who are 1 year veterans or above, so you're just absolutely gone mad mate. For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
Retard? These are taken at the same time btw.
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Congratulations, you got screenshots of three servers during a certain time of the day and another of a server during another time of the day. Definitive proof of their overall monthly population. Thank you for proving to me proof of the level of ignorance all of this is being looked at with.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 05:05:11 pm
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"Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?"
Saying something like that is extremely condescending and exactly what I would expect out of someone in a position of authority in the 63e.

3. 63e banning people on TS.

I'm 100% sure this is because of your perm ban. I believe you came to our event and posed as Offizer, who was Colonel at the time, on the in game server. And I helieved you tked a few times on purpose to make it look like ray did it, so he just perm banned you on the spot.  So yeah, shows the type of person you were at the time. As for the three times leaving, we value loyalty and don't like soible reggers. A lot of regiments do let double regging occur, when tbh that's  what kills competitive. Regiments letting people double reg kills competitive scenes. Because a regiments skill is never their own most of the time. Imagine if like olofmeister just hoped on  whatever team he wanted to and went to whatever match he pleased. So yeah, we value loyalty and punish people who 1. Double reg or 2. Leave a certain amount of times / reg hop. That is in our right to exercise.

It is your right to have rules in place but punishing someone like cluelesswill who is hardly a reg hopper and just happened to leave your regiment 3 times since 2012 and has been hanging out with people from the 63e including yourself since 2012 is cruel and unusual punishment and makes people in the community hate you. Silly rules that excommunicate players from communities are stupid and should be done away with. Secondly I was permanently banned from the 63e server when I wasn't even connected for coming into the server during a training announcing in teamspeak that I was playing as Offizer and then participating in the training. Another example of a banning which is perfectly within your rights is the banning of Dukers from the 63e teamspeak. He went in the teamspeak as a 2ndary rep for his regiment during a 63e organized linebattle and was then permanently banned from the teamspeak after entering a 63e channel and asking for the info to the server while they were in the event. These are not secular cases either this has happened many times and has made the 63e many enemies.


Also I had you on the asshole list to begin with im not sure wtf you're talking about..
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I personally don't know CluelessWill, so I don't actually know him at all. I've only seen him come to Officers channel here and there, never really participated with the current community. But I hear good things, I wasn't even aware he got banned to be honest. It is fully in your opinion if you choose to not like our policies, that is your right. As for your ban and Dukers, I fail to see your point. You got banned for impersonating an officer. As for the Dukers ban, I don't know if you realized, but the 1tes at the time were banned from our events for 1. Consistently breaking rules in servers 2. Teamkilling other regiments/bush pirating. He came into the TS into our event channel during an event and actually was disruptive during the event, we just banned him because we don't want banned individuals to be able to come and troll since it happens a lot. Again, within our right to do so. But from most of this hate, sounds more like personal affliction with not following our rules in our servers and then being mad about getting the consequence of doing so. Either way, you can always have personal animosity against our rules, but it always grows into anti-63e everything.

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Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

Read this again maybe then you will make sense out of my post:
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.
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1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.

Think you missed the part before it, so perhaps you actually need to read a bit. Also, 63e Siege killed NA1... Lol.. You should go on NA1 on a Thursday, tell me how dead it is. Also, the 63e has about 30+ members who are 1 year veterans or above, so you're just absolutely gone mad mate. For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
Retard? These are taken at the same time btw.
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Congratulations, you got screenshots of three servers during a certain time of the day and another of a server during another time of the day. Definitive proof of their overall monthly population. Thank you for proving to me proof of the level of ignorance all of this is being looked at with.
Dukers was banned well before the 1tes was banned from 63e events. The password was changed and dukers went into one of the 63e teamspeak channels to ask for the new password so he could join and was permanently banned. Also what the fuck are you talking about 'three servers' I only have two screen shots of two servers and I used them as an example because for the most part it is like that always. There is an entire thread on FSE about reviving NA 1 because it is fucking DEAD! I think you must have dyslexia or some shit because you really lack any basic reading or communication skills at all.

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Also squirts you fuckin dipshit the reason for my original post was to point out some of the different reasons why people dislike the 63e in an attempt to perhaps fix some of them for example. One of the main factors of hate is the fact that they own the recruiting scene and dont let others recruit. Perhaps one solution would be that new regiments that need recruits and face disbandment without them could have a specific time to go on the 63e siege server and see if anyone would be interested in joining a new forming regiment. Also to be quite honest I was quite impartial in my judgement of the 63e and even of you I put you down on my asshole list, yes as banter because I enjoy a bit of banter but the rest of it I was impartial.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 05:12:51 pm
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"Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?"
Saying something like that is extremely condescending and exactly what I would expect out of someone in a position of authority in the 63e.

3. 63e banning people on TS.

I'm 100% sure this is because of your perm ban. I believe you came to our event and posed as Offizer, who was Colonel at the time, on the in game server. And I helieved you tked a few times on purpose to make it look like ray did it, so he just perm banned you on the spot.  So yeah, shows the type of person you were at the time. As for the three times leaving, we value loyalty and don't like soible reggers. A lot of regiments do let double regging occur, when tbh that's  what kills competitive. Regiments letting people double reg kills competitive scenes. Because a regiments skill is never their own most of the time. Imagine if like olofmeister just hoped on  whatever team he wanted to and went to whatever match he pleased. So yeah, we value loyalty and punish people who 1. Double reg or 2. Leave a certain amount of times / reg hop. That is in our right to exercise.

It is your right to have rules in place but punishing someone like cluelesswill who is hardly a reg hopper and just happened to leave your regiment 3 times since 2012 and has been hanging out with people from the 63e including yourself since 2012 is cruel and unusual punishment and makes people in the community hate you. Silly rules that excommunicate players from communities are stupid and should be done away with. Secondly I was permanently banned from the 63e server when I wasn't even connected for coming into the server during a training announcing in teamspeak that I was playing as Offizer and then participating in the training. Another example of a banning which is perfectly within your rights is the banning of Dukers from the 63e teamspeak. He went in the teamspeak as a 2ndary rep for his regiment during a 63e organized linebattle and was then permanently banned from the teamspeak after entering a 63e channel and asking for the info to the server while they were in the event. These are not secular cases either this has happened many times and has made the 63e many enemies.


Also I had you on the asshole list to begin with im not sure wtf you're talking about..
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I personally don't know CluelessWill, so I don't actually know him at all. I've only seen him come to Officers channel here and there, never really participated with the current community. But I hear good things, I wasn't even aware he got banned to be honest. It is fully in your opinion if you choose to not like our policies, that is your right. As for your ban and Dukers, I fail to see your point. You got banned for impersonating an officer. As for the Dukers ban, I don't know if you realized, but the 1tes at the time were banned from our events for 1. Consistently breaking rules in servers 2. Teamkilling other regiments/bush pirating. He came into the TS into our event channel during an event and actually was disruptive during the event, we just banned him because we don't want banned individuals to be able to come and troll since it happens a lot. Again, within our right to do so. But from most of this hate, sounds more like personal affliction with not following our rules in our servers and then being mad about getting the consequence of doing so. Either way, you can always have personal animosity against our rules, but it always grows into anti-63e everything.

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Ok maccle, I'm going to do my best to respond to your post, okay?

1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.
Basically saying we are fucking up community but it's okay since we pay for it.

... That doesn't make sense but okay. Also apologies for my last post, did that one on my phone.

Read this again maybe then you will make sense out of my post:
Many new regiments fail simply because they are unable to recruit a substantial number of people to make their regiment viable. One of the main reasons that this occurs is because of the 63e NA siege. The 63e NA siege has seemingly killed NA 1 and all of the other servers that in the past regiments have been able to recruit on. The 63e runs their server as many other smaller regimental servers do with the policy of No Recruiting unless you are in the 63e. When a new player buys the game and eventually progresses to playing multiplayer in NW they will most likely go to a very populated server with good ping and in a game mode which is exciting for someone who is new such as siege. Because of this a vast majority of new players go to 63e NA siege and a large portion of those players if they like the game are going to be interested in joining regiments and progressing farther into the NA community. Unfortunately, almost all of them join the 63e and then stay there for the duration of their regimental experience hence the 1,400 people in their cadet steam group. Unfortunately, the 63e does a very bad job at retaining people and keeping them active despite their best efforts I’m sure. But you cannot individually give different cadets the attention and comradery they need to want to stay and be active if there are that many of them. What the 63e does a very good job at although is keeping their community very tight nit and taking every opportunity to throw shade by calling them trolls or just simply shit talking them. Making the new recruits feel like there is no regiment as good as the 63e and everyone else in the community are trolls. Also another reason why people who join the 63e don’t leave is because they are harassed by other regiments quite often simply because they are in the 63e. I’ve done it myself and I know a shit load of people who have also.
TLDR: 63e na siege makes it very hard for regs to recruit new players. Once players join 63e the majority of them quit the game or stay in the 63e and don’t leave because the 63e tells them the rest of the community are trolls. Also 63e is shit talked by much of na community when seen which makes new 63e players not like other regiments.
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1. 63e Siege. That's our own server payed by our community, we can do whatever we want with it. End of story, other regiments do it, and even siwi banned a few regiments from his siege and still ended up disbanding the server/regiment. Botice that the regiments who prosper are the ones who don't quit at it once the going gets tough.

Think you missed the part before it, so perhaps you actually need to read a bit. Also, 63e Siege killed NA1... Lol.. You should go on NA1 on a Thursday, tell me how dead it is. Also, the 63e has about 30+ members who are 1 year veterans or above, so you're just absolutely gone mad mate. For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
Retard? These are taken at the same time btw.
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Congratulations, you got screenshots of three servers during a certain time of the day and another of a server during another time of the day. Definitive proof of their overall monthly population. Thank you for proving to me proof of the level of ignorance all of this is being looked at with.
Dukers was banned well before the 1tes was banned from 63e events. The password was changed and dukers went into one of the 63e teamspeak channels to ask for the new password so he could join and was permanently banned. Also what the fuck are you talking about 'three servers' I only have two screen shots of two servers and I used them as an example because for the most part it is like that always. There is an entire thread on FSE about reviving NA 1 because it is fucking DEAD! I think you must have dyslexia or some shit because you really lack any basic reading or communication skills at all.
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Well, glad to see you're Dukers. But yeah I'm not just going to go back and forth on someone who got banned on our TS for trolling.

As for the "three servers", if you actually took the time to look at your screenshot, here is a screencap of, now count with me, 1, 2, 3 servers! (https://gyazo.com/78a93a75f8be5e11d8243312390053a3.png)

But yeah, if you think NA1 died because of the 63e, you are pretty delusional, considering we populated it as well.

Also squirts you fuckin dipshit the reason for my original post was to point out some of the different reasons why people dislike the 63e in an attempt to perhaps fix some of them for example. One of the main factors of hate is the fact that they own the recruiting scene and dont let others recruit. Perhaps one solution would be that new regiments that need recruits and face disbandment without them could have a specific time to go on the 63e siege server and see if anyone would be interested in joining a new forming regiment. Also to be quite honest I was quite impartial in my judgement of the 63e and even of you I put you down on my asshole list, yes as banter because I enjoy a bit of banter but the rest of it I was impartial.

Nice to know I'm dealing with someone actually looking to talk about the important things here. But yeah, definitely no narrative here cause Karth isn't taking anything serious. And you wonder why we don't like opening a discussion about anything with people that handle themselves like maccle. Probably going to be more individuals like this after this post too.

Also, in your original post, those aren't just random reasons in the community why people dislike the 63e, you pointed out your own. At the top of your post you even say "I hate the 63e for a number of reasons" and "I thought I would write out why I personally dislike Karth and the 63e" and then go on to list all of the reasons below. Are you at the same mental state as Hillary Clinton mate?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 06, 2016, 05:31:49 pm
Just because the server is privately owned doesn't mean people have to agree with their policies. Honestly if the 63e were to change their server policy to allow recruitment then they would probably receive a lot less hate.

Blaming other regiments for the 63e not doing 1v1s? Wut. As far as I know the 71st 2v2 never had any issues with regiments purposely tking their friends. Our lb was actually pretty serious. It's a shame cheesey didn't have time to run it anymore. And the chat was just like any other pub lb. This is just a theory but do you think its because the recruits didn't like sitting on a hill and shooting all 30 bullets? I know I hate that.

The 63e have 1400 people in their steam group. They have far less in the actual regiment. #PoorMemberRetention

You did a poor job of punishing swift when he left the 63e like 3 times and still was allowed to play in the NWL match. I think the whole banning people from the ts thing is just a meme. I stopped going into the 63e ts because bean bean would move me into a channel with him and say "BabyJ the legend! I saved the NW community by hosting NWL".  #Bantz

For some reason alot of 63e members think that everyone is jealous of them and that all the regiments are beneath them. I mean they did refuse a 1v1 because the regiment wasn't "old" enough. Idk just from my expierences.






Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: bobertini on September 06, 2016, 05:32:40 pm
I got banned for saying 63e would be better without karth ):
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 05:45:51 pm
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Just because the server is privately owned doesn't mean people have to agree with their policies. Honestly if the 63e were to change their server policy to allow recruitment then they would probably receive a lot less hate.

Blaming other regiments for the 63e not doing 1v1s? Wut. As far as I know the 71st 2v2 never had any issues with regiments purposely tking their friends. Our lb was actually pretty serious. It's a shame cheesey didn't have time to run it anymore. And the chat was just like any other pub lb. This is just a theory but do you think its because the recruits didn't like sitting on a hill and shooting all 30 bullets? I know I hate that.

The 63e have 1400 people in their steam group. They have far less in the actual regiment. #PoorMemberRetention

You did a poor job of punishing swift when he left the 63e like 3 times and still was allowed to play in the NWL match. I think the whole banning people from the ts thing is just a meme. I stopped going into the 63e ts because bean bean would move me into a channel with him and say "BabyJ the legend! I saved the NW community by hosting NWL".  #Bantz

For some reason alot of 63e members think that everyone is jealous of them and that all the regiments are beneath them. I mean they did refuse a 1v1 because the regiment wasn't "old" enough. Idk just from my expierences.
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Just because the server is privately owned doesn't mean people have to agree with their policies. Honestly if the 63e were to change their server policy to allow recruitment then they would probably receive a lot less hate.


No one said you had to agree with our policies, I just said that you can't say we're killing a community where anyone else has the opportunity to start their own server, but do not, and then go on to complain how we're one of the only populated NA servers. So please review what was actually said instead of making up what was said.

Blaming other regiments for the 63e not doing 1v1s? Wut. As far as I know the 71st 2v2 never had any issues with regiments purposely tking their friends. Our lb was actually pretty serious. It's a shame cheesey didn't have time to run it anymore. And the chat was just like any other pub lb. This is just a theory but do you think its because the recruits didn't like sitting on a hill and shooting all 30 bullets? I know I hate that. 


For your 2v2s, I remember that a lot of people were to the point of not wanting to attend due to the fact that it was a majority of 63e bm in all chat, and especially a lot of bm in team chat by the 3eVolt at the time. We told our guys to ignore it and not respond, but after so many times coming, they didn't like the negative atmosphere. As for tking, they actually did it every single round where they tked our line on purpose and then sat in the back of the map and kept saying in team chat #63eTactics and then kept shooting us at our backs and tking. So yeah, don't need to explain why we stopped 1v1ing regiments associated with that whole event and many other events in general that we started keeping away due to their toxicity.


You did a poor job of punishing swift when he left the 63e like 3 times and still was allowed to play in the NWL match. I think the whole banning people from the ts thing is just a meme. I stopped going into the 63e ts because bean bean would move me into a channel with him and say "BabyJ the legend! I saved the NW community by hosting NWL".  #Bantz

If there's anything I 100% agree with, it's probably the majority of this post. Yes, it was handled badly because the regiment was being ran by Offizer. Not sure if any of you knew, but with Karth leaving, the regiment was mainly being handled on a basis of the normal NCOs who for the most part weren't used to doing many things, Offizer only actually did a lot of things in regards of making decisions and that's it. During his time as Colonel, he actually was very inactive and only sat in his channel to play games with personal friends, something he actually does to this very day. I wasn't officially an officer rank at the time, but that's probably one of the lowest points the regiment has ever gone to was during Offizers leadership unfortunately. Ray was a cool dude, but was never meant to lead the regiment, so over his time in leadership he made many bad decisions, swift being one of them, and a lot of other things regarding the regiment.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 05:47:41 pm
Not gonna lie, even I have been perm banned from the 63e TS.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 05:50:45 pm
Ok, so apparently us banning people from TeamSpeak = Us killing community is what I've heard.

Cause that has seemed to be the talking point for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 05:52:09 pm
Ok, so apparently us banning people from TeamSpeak = Us killing community is what I've heard.

Cause that has seemed to be the talking point for a lot of people.

Then apparently you are ignoring alot of what people on this thread have been saying.

There have been some valid points, and I will probably look into it.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 06, 2016, 05:52:38 pm
Not gonna lie, even I have been perm banned from the 63e TS.
I was muted (First offence) for quoting an original post that I agreed with.  That is all I did, no quote pyramid or anything.  Yet we see 63e members do so much worse, break forum rules blatantly and nothing happens.  The double standard is so clear it is simply undeniable.  The fact that our concerns are brushed off instantly as some BS conspiracy only proves our point even more.

And yes, for the last several month, I have tried to challenge the 63e to a 1v1 no less than 15 times.  I would be lucky if they even responded.  This type of behavior, believe it or not, will make people dislike a regiment.  Yet when they were playing well, and we were not, weekly challenges came in.  No one likes a regiment who cherry picks huge stretches of time when they are good enough to 1v1 or otherwise.

So maybe for a change, actually address people's concerns and comments, especially when their is clear proof of bias/double standard.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 06, 2016, 05:56:20 pm
Any grievances regarding teamspeak servers or in game servers are irrelevant to this forum. You can discuss them as much as you want, but they are beyond my powers to change or even influence them.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
Any grievances regarding teamspeak servers or in game servers are irrelevant to this forum. You can discuss them as much as you want, but they are beyond my powers to change or even influence them.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 05:59:07 pm
For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
I was in your ts I even have screenshot of it if you want to I use it as avatar in our ts. Also nice personal attacks.
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Just because you monopolized public play = recruitment in fair way doesn't means it's morally acceptable and good for community. 63e has power over NA community and now it's abusing it but its okay boys they got to that power fair and square.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 06:03:22 pm
Any grievances regarding teamspeak servers or in game servers are irrelevant to this forum. You can discuss them as much as you want, but they are beyond my powers to change or even influence them.
Fuck off this thread then, it's community thread and you are acting like you aren't part of the community.
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 06:05:01 pm
For someone who hasn't come into our TeamSpeak, sat down and spoke with someone in a calm and civil manner without shitting your pants, and maybe thinking a little bit about the sewage that spews from that hole you call a mouth, perhaps you would say something intelligent in your life.
I was in your ts I even have screenshot of it if you want to I use it as avatar in our ts. Also nice personal attacks.
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Just because you monopolized public play = recruitment in fair way doesn't means it's morally acceptable and good for community. 63e has power over NA community and now it's abusing it but its okay boys they got to that power fair and square.

Need to review the term monopolizing, because it is virtually impossible for us to monopolize something we cannot control. All we did was 1. Buy a server 2. Make it so no one else can recruit.

Monopolizing it would be 1. Buy a server. 2. DDOS every other server and make them unplayable with intent to stop their chances 3. Make it so no one else can recruit. That's a big difference, you see the difference I hope? Maybe our server gets visited because people make videos on youtube on our Server, we have people who actively admin the server and spend time recruiting, or because we actually put effort on our server? The servers that are still up and do this get rewarded as well, it's the face no one else would spend time on their server out of the people who complain. The USMC do what we do, they have a server, they recruit off it themselves, and they actively spend their own time doing so. In return, they do good off of the benefit of their community paying for a server.

At the end of the day, all I'm seeing is personal grudges and opinions trying to take turns painting out their image of an "evil corporation". But yeah, had a lot of fun on this thread but thankfully I'm just gonna sit on the sidelines for now instead of having to explain the same points over and over again only to have someone make a banter joke or meme out of it because of immaturity / lack to hold a serious back and forth discussion.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Karth on September 06, 2016, 06:05:58 pm
Jesus Christ. 80% of what you guys are talking about is in no way even relevant to the actual forum or forum policies. That's not something you can change.  As for what me and my regiment have been getting 'accused' of most of those accusations are false, but I won't go in depth or respond to them as this isn't the place to do that. 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 06:08:55 pm
Jesus Christ. 80% of what you guys are talking about is in no way even relevant to the actual forum or forum policies. That's not something you can change.  As for what me and my regiment have been getting 'accused' of most of those accusations are false, but I won't go in depth or respond to them as this isn't the place to do that.
In-game server and ts are irrelevant but you are still guilty of being biased admin and making questionable decision that negatively effected community, why would smart company keep a mod like that?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 06, 2016, 06:09:12 pm
Jesus Christ. 80% of what you guys are talking about is in no way even relevant to the actual forum or forum policies. That's not something you can change.  As for what me and my regiment have been getting 'accused' of most of those accusations are false, but I won't go in depth or respond to them as this isn't the place to do that.
Nothing I said was false
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 06, 2016, 06:09:19 pm
No, I want to make sure people don't expect actions from me that I simply cannot deliver on. Nor have any intention of delivering on. The servers, even FSE official servers, are not under my control.

Yes, you can discuss those things with the CR and they can see if there is a way to handle those grievances. But I don't want people thinking that I will or even can force, to name an example, the 63e to stop banning recruitment on their own servers.

As for 63e members supposidly getting away with rule-breaking; you are free to report them. We have various moderators handling reports, Karth is not the only moderator. Suggesting that the whole Moderation team is biased in favour of 63e members is ridicious.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 06, 2016, 06:09:30 pm
Jesus Christ. 80% of what you guys are talking about is in no way even relevant to the actual forum or forum policies. That's not something you can change.  As for what me and my regiment have been getting 'accused' of most of those accusations are false, but I won't go in depth or respond to them as this isn't the place to do that.
Nothing I said was false, and you just helped prove it
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 06:13:20 pm
Suggesting that the whole Moderation team is biased against 63e members is ridicious.
Only ridiculous thing here is FSE Moderation.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 06, 2016, 06:14:39 pm
Any grievances regarding teamspeak servers or in game servers are irrelevant to this forum. You can discuss them as much as you want, but they are beyond my powers to change or even influence them.

I agree, further discussion of this on a forum is futile. Your points have been read. If anyone wants to continue this discussion further it is probably best that you take it to PMs.

As a side note; it is nice to see coherent points being made here, despite a possible difference in opinion, rather than the usual shit throwing.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 06, 2016, 06:17:44 pm
Suggesting that the whole Moderation team is biased in favour of 63e members is ridicious.
Only ridiculous thing here is FSE Moderation.

It becomes hard for us to take your grievences serious if you post remarks like this. Please refrain from doing so.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 06, 2016, 06:20:18 pm
Hm, how about the fact that I was muted a while back for quoting bean bean, who was in the 63e at the time, for quoting out of context with the intent to make the user look bad. Yet, high and mighty squirts is doing that right now, quoting and altering something I said
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 06:22:46 pm
Hm, how about the fact that I was muted a while back for quoting bean bean, who was in the 63e at the time, for quoting out of context with the intent to make the user look bad. Yet, high and mighty squirts is doing that right now, quoting and altering something I said
definitely not 63e biased moderation m8
 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 06:23:30 pm
Going away from the previous narrative, is there a way we can perhaps see some more support go towards the Thursday Public LB hosted on NA1 every Thursday, I know a good number of regiments continue to show their support of Pubs participating with their regiment and giving them an opportunity to experience organized regiment play. I know when I go there with my Cavalry, I try to get my guys to be as accepting as possible to the pubs that come to cav with us, cause most of them are just cool down to earth pubs most of the time. So if possible, we can try to get more regiment rallying around the event, also a good chance for the smaller regiments who aren't familiar with the event to get their names out there. Other than the Pub LB, nothing else is done out in the open for the most part, any suggestions on perhaps doing something more open for people that are more on hands in-game and don't spend time on the forums?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on September 06, 2016, 06:33:10 pm
I feel that if certain people want the hate to stop than in fact there should be a look at polices in place with regards to servers.  I get it and I know its private server but to be 100% honest with you the fact is people should be about supporting this community.  To only consider one's own goals of becoming the biggest regiment in the game is quite frankly stupid because you will have no competition in this community at all.

On the  flip side, trolling the group that owns the server will not do any good.  Reasonable talks about possibly changing the rules will go much farther.  What I mean by that is actually going in teamspeak and talking about the issues.  I understand both sides and I can see how frustrating it would be and perhaps a possible rule could be 1 recruitment message per map.  If that is too much to ask than shit on me but honestly I dont think its that big of a deal to allow 1 message per map.

Otherwise if you get a boner out of the hate and shit than fine continue on this path.  I would like to see the community grow rather than slowly die away.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 06:37:57 pm
I feel that if certain people want the hate to stop than in fact there should be a look at polices in place with regards to servers.  I get it and I know its private server but to be 100% honest with you the fact is people should be about supporting this community.  To only consider one's own goals of becoming the biggest regiment in the game is quite frankly stupid because you will have no competition in this community at all.

On the  flip side, trolling the group that owns the server will not do any good.  Reasonable talks about possibly changing the rules will go much farther.  What I mean by that is actually going in teamspeak and talking about the issues.  I understand both sides and I can see how frustrating it would be and perhaps a possible rule could be 1 recruitment message per map.  If that is too much to ask than shit on me but honestly I dont think its that big of a deal to allow 1 message per map.

Otherwise if you get a boner out of the hate and shit than fine continue on this path.  I would like to see the community grow rather than slowly die away.

Possible, but at the end of the day needs to be a private discussion between an individual and the private owner, not public.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on September 06, 2016, 06:38:11 pm
Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 06, 2016, 06:42:04 pm
I feel that if certain people want the hate to stop than in fact there should be a look at polices in place with regards to servers.  I get it and I know its private server but to be 100% honest with you the fact is people should be about supporting this community.  To only consider one's own goals of becoming the biggest regiment in the game is quite frankly stupid because you will have no competition in this community at all.

On the  flip side, trolling the group that owns the server will not do any good.  Reasonable talks about possibly changing the rules will go much farther.  What I mean by that is actually going in teamspeak and talking about the issues.  I understand both sides and I can see how frustrating it would be and perhaps a possible rule could be 1 recruitment message per map.  If that is too much to ask than shit on me but honestly I dont think its that big of a deal to allow 1 message per map.

Otherwise if you get a boner out of the hate and shit than fine continue on this path.  I would like to see the community grow rather than slowly die away.
I have asked both the BBG and the 63e at one time or other to consider changing their policies, and they have refused

Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.
I did, and I have tried, but it is impossible to compete with Karth telling all 100 of his kiddos to hop on siege after events, when I only have myself and a few friends to get on mine
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 06:43:47 pm
Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.

Ha. Goodluck getting any pop from the 63e. Not only is it probs favorited by the pubs at this point, but you are never gonna be able to populate a server more than the 63e can due to their sheer size.

63e Siege is a problem. The main argument that people have for it is "It's a 63e server, paid for by the 63e, so 63e rules", which while true, doesn't make it less of a problem for the community.


Also please, do continue discussion here. I'm listening. Don't mind all the nay-sayers, my ears are wide open.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on September 06, 2016, 06:50:15 pm
Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.

Ha. Goodluck getting any pop from the 63e. Not only is it probs favorited by the pubs at this point, but you are never gonna be able to populate a server more than the 63e can due to their sheer size.

63e Siege is a problem. The main argument that people have for it is "It's a 63e server, paid for by the 63e, so 63e rules", which while true, doesn't make it less of a problem for the community.


Also please, do continue discussion here. I'm listening. Don't mind all the nay-sayers, my ears are wide open.
same was said about NA 1 when 27th had their siege just sayingggg. Look at NA 1 now xdedede
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 06:51:28 pm
Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.

Ha. Goodluck getting any pop from the 63e. Not only is it probs favorited by the pubs at this point, but you are never gonna be able to populate a server more than the 63e can due to their sheer size.

63e Siege is a problem. The main argument that people have for it is "It's a 63e server, paid for by the 63e, so 63e rules", which while true, doesn't make it less of a problem for the community.


Also please, do continue discussion here. I'm listening. Don't mind all the nay-sayers, my ears are wide open.

Your point has already been debunked. I believe it was Siwi who made a Siege server during our "reign" and banned only 63e and BBG from recruiting. For a while, it actually got a lot more than the 63e ever did because the 63e Siege was dead for 3+ months, but we didn't say anything because at the end of the day Siwi's server was his server and the 63e wasn't focusing on using our time to recruit, so therefore we hurt for our lack of work towards the server. It was a fun server to go to as well, but for some reason Siwi ended up not continuing the server and he shut it down. Yet, during the months the 63e siege was down, you didn't see an increase in other regiments numbers or anything change for that matter. Just nothing happened for the most part. So, that's actual proof that our server literally does nothing to harm the community.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 06, 2016, 06:55:07 pm
Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.

Ha. Goodluck getting any pop from the 63e. Not only is it probs favorited by the pubs at this point, but you are never gonna be able to populate a server more than the 63e can due to their sheer size.

63e Siege is a problem. The main argument that people have for it is "It's a 63e server, paid for by the 63e, so 63e rules", which while true, doesn't make it less of a problem for the community.


Also please, do continue discussion here. I'm listening. Don't mind all the nay-sayers, my ears are wide open.

Your point has already been debunked. I believe it was Siwi who made a Siege server during our "reign" and banned only 63e and BBG from recruiting. For a while, it actually got a lot more than the 63e ever did because the 63e Siege was dead for 3+ months, but we didn't say anything because at the end of the day Siwi's server was his server and the 63e wasn't focusing on using our time to recruit, so therefore we hurt for our lack of work towards the server. It was a fun server to go to as well, but for some reason Siwi ended up not continuing the server and he shut it down. Yet, during the months the 63e siege was down, you didn't see an increase in other regiments numbers or anything change for that matter. Just nothing happened for the most part. So, that's actual proof that our server literally does nothing to harm the community.
lol the blatant ignorance

I was able to start a regiment and get it to decent size all while allowing everyone to recruit. As for the reason for banning recruiting, it was because of your server policies. We never actually enforced that rule in any case. And I did not shut it down until after you guys kicked your server back off and no one played anymore. I did not just shut it down, I tried very hard to keep it going
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 07:04:27 pm
Fucksake if you hate 63e Siege make your own server and spend time getting it populated like they did. 63e Siege didn't become the number one server on NA in a night. Pretty sure it's risen and died before now it's just staying up.

Ha. Goodluck getting any pop from the 63e. Not only is it probs favorited by the pubs at this point, but you are never gonna be able to populate a server more than the 63e can due to their sheer size.

63e Siege is a problem. The main argument that people have for it is "It's a 63e server, paid for by the 63e, so 63e rules", which while true, doesn't make it less of a problem for the community.


Also please, do continue discussion here. I'm listening. Don't mind all the nay-sayers, my ears are wide open.

Your point has already been debunked. I believe it was Siwi who made a Siege server during our "reign" and banned only 63e and BBG from recruiting. For a while, it actually got a lot more than the 63e ever did because the 63e Siege was dead for 3+ months, but we didn't say anything because at the end of the day Siwi's server was his server and the 63e wasn't focusing on using our time to recruit, so therefore we hurt for our lack of work towards the server. It was a fun server to go to as well, but for some reason Siwi ended up not continuing the server and he shut it down. Yet, during the months the 63e siege was down, you didn't see an increase in other regiments numbers or anything change for that matter. Just nothing happened for the most part. So, that's actual proof that our server literally does nothing to harm the community.


The argument is far from debunked. The 63e far out sizes any other regiment, and it would take a consistent and prolonged effort from multiple regiments to ever hope to get a server more populated than 63e siege. All it would take to slip up is one night of inactivity and the 63e goes to its Siege after an event and boom, effort wasted

63e siege. Is. A. Problem. Your argument is solely based around the fact that everyone else should solve it by paying for and populating another server that allows recruiting for everyone. Do you not see the issue here?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
Going away from the previous narrative, is there a way we can perhaps see some more support go towards the Thursday Public LB hosted on NA1 every Thursday, I know a good number of regiments continue to show their support of Pubs participating with their regiment and giving them an opportunity to experience organized regiment play. I know when I go there with my Cavalry, I try to get my guys to be as accepting as possible to the pubs that come to cav with us, cause most of them are just cool down to earth pubs most of the time. So if possible, we can try to get more regiment rallying around the event, also a good chance for the smaller regiments who aren't familiar with the event to get their names out there. Other than the Pub LB, nothing else is done out in the open for the most part, any suggestions on perhaps doing something more open for people that are more on hands in-game and don't spend time on the forums?

Putting this back up in case it gets lost, but also because you're insinuating on trying to change a privately owned servers guidelines. I want to talk about doing things about actually taking a step forward in the community by discussing actual community things as a whole. This has more to do with a privately owned server and the disagreements had with the private owner. Think we need to focus on not making this a thread about a single individual within the community and more about the actual whole of the community.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 07:19:06 pm
The point of this thread is identifying problems in the community and solving them.

The problem:

Monopoly of recruitment on major servers leads to a spiraling problem where large regiments get larger and smaller regiments risk disbanding and leaving the community.

Now, if people feel that 63e Siege is part of the problem then they are free to discuss why on this thread. I will listen. If people feel that it's not a problem, they are free to state why and I will listen. I will take a side as needed and we will find a solution. That's how it works.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 07:22:54 pm
The point of this thread is identifying problems in the community and solving them.

The problem:

Monopoly of recruitment on major servers leads to a spiraling problem where large regiments get larger and smaller regiments risk disbanding and leaving the community.

Now, if people feel that 63e Siege is part of the problem then they are free to discuss why on this thread. I will listen. If people feel that it's not a problem, they are free to state why. I will listen. I will take a side as needed and we will find a solution. That's how it works.

Your solution includes going into a privately owned server and forcing change. In other words, never going to be a real solution because it's privately owned. They can discuss it, but talking about a broken leak opposed to going out and just fixing the leak yourself are very different.

moved this part out cause it isnt relevant to solving the issue.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 07:34:10 pm
The point of this thread is identifying problems in the community and solving them.

The problem:

Monopoly of recruitment on major servers leads to a spiraling problem where large regiments get larger and smaller regiments risk disbanding and leaving the community.

Now, if people feel that 63e Siege is part of the problem then they are free to discuss why on this thread. I will listen. If people feel that it's not a problem, they are free to state why. I will listen. I will take a side as needed and we will find a solution. That's how it works.

Your solution includes going into a privately owned server and forcing change. In other words, never going to be a real solution because it's privately owned. They can discuss it, but talking about a broken leak opposed to going out and just fixing the leak yourself are very different.

Also, again, not a monopoly. Monopoly would mean the servers actively take action to stop others from coming into the market via sabotage, bribes, etc. Things that are unethical. Only thing that 63e Siege has done is kept being a server. So again, there is no monopoly, there is only the inability of others.

That's actually not what a monopoly means at all.

(https://i.imgur.com/iIqiIpk.png)

See, there are two solutions here:

1) Ask the 63e, by far the largest regiment in the game, to relax the restrictions on recruitment on their server and allowing regiments who need the recruits far more than the 63e does to recruit and grow, allowing more regiments/people to join the community.

2) Raise another privately owned server that wont restrict recruitment to one regiment, whos sole purpose is to compete with 63e NA Siege, all the while contacting several whole regiments to populate it just to compete with the sheer numbers the 63e has at its disposal to populate its own server.

The way I see it, the former option makes much more sense and is the best option for the community.

Lets face it: You CANNOT deny that the 63e's and BBGs monopoly on recruitment are a problem. The only thing you are arguing is that the 63e shouldn't fix the problem. While you are justified in doing so, that does not make it any less of a problem. It NEEDS to be solved, one way or another. If the 63e is not willing to solve it, then do not complain when the community despises and pressures the 63e even more.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 06, 2016, 07:39:48 pm
So can we talk about how Karth shouldn't be an admin anymore? That seems like fun. +it's actually gotta do with FSE
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 07:43:20 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured, it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 06, 2016, 07:45:18 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured, it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.
HEARD IT HERE FIRST! 63e DECLARES WAR ON NW COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!111112122222
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on September 06, 2016, 07:50:40 pm
NW_Siege_NA1
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 07:51:47 pm
NA_Community_Siege

But seriously, all joking aside, I think a Community Siege would be awesome. Get together notable figures in the community, they serve as the head admins for the server. Pick up some moderators to go alongside the head admins that go to the server to make sure the rules are being followed, ask regiments/get regiments to attend at the same time. Could try it, sounds actually very successful as long as it's supported by the community here and actually gets moderated consistently.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 07:53:27 pm
Grimsight get in on this!
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 06, 2016, 07:55:54 pm
How is option 1 not well thought out? The way I interpreted it was that the 63e should share thier recruiting pool with other regiments, so more regiments could grow and populate.
Honestly, if you want to see the community grow and be more healthy, what is so wrong about giving more room for recruitment in the 63e siege server? I'd love to know your problem with relaxing restrictions.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 07:57:02 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured,it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.

Take a moment to consider why: People don't dislike the 63e without reason, and many have said exactly why they dislike the 63e on this thread. It seems to me that the 63e aren't taking these grievances very seriously, and have just taken a "Hate us cuz they aint us" attitude towards the community, which is honestly pretty disappointing to me.

As for option 2, the problem with it is that it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months, and even then it is doubtful they could pull the pubs away from 63e Siege. Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments. Option 1 is far more reasonable I would say, and Option 2 should only be used as a last resort.


Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 07:59:56 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured,it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.

Take a moment to consider why: People don't dislike the 63e without reason, and many have said exactly why they dislike the 63e on this thread. It seems to me that the 63e aren't taking these grievances very seriously, and have just taken a "Hate us cuz they aint us" attitude towards the community, which is honestly pretty disappointing to me.

As for option 2, the problem with it is that it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months, and even then it is doubtful they could pull the pubs away from 63e Siege. Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments. Option 1 is far more reasonable I would say, and Option 2 should only be used as a last resort.
(https://i.gyazo.com/72664fe9d4aa0e973295c7ce83c02113.png)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 08:00:52 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured,it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.

Take a moment to consider why: People don't dislike the 63e without reason, and many have said exactly why they dislike the 63e on this thread. It seems to me that the 63e aren't taking these grievances very seriously, and have just taken a "Hate us cuz they aint us" attitude towards the community, which is honestly pretty disappointing to me.

As for option 2, the problem with it is that it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months, and even then it is doubtful they could pull the pubs away from 63e Siege. Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments. Option 1 is far more reasonable I would say, and Option 2 should only be used as a last resort.
Nicely worded +1
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 08:33:11 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured,it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.

Take a moment to consider why: People don't dislike the 63e without reason, and many have said exactly why they dislike the 63e on this thread. It seems to me that the 63e aren't taking these grievances very seriously, and have just taken a "Hate us cuz they aint us" attitude towards the community, which is honestly pretty disappointing to me.

As for option 2, the problem with it is that it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months, and even then it is doubtful they could pull the pubs away from 63e Siege. Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments. Option 1 is far more reasonable I would say, and Option 2 should only be used as a last resort.

 
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it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months

Firstly, we could care less who hates us. We aren't going to control that because we can't. Also, there's a lot of parties who have already spoken that showed they "don't care." Stop playing the victim of not taking the matter seriously when others are doing it, and only framing one group for it. But to the main point, How is option 2 impossible? If 63e Siege's success is accomplished through the concentrated effort from our NCOs and members, why can't Community Siege prosper with members of the community putting in the same amount of work? Why put in the work when we can just convince a private owner to open his server for us, and we just leech of the work they put in? You have to listen to your proposal. It involves the private owners who have put in the work to create it to what it is now, to just let anyone sit on the back of that work. No, go out yourself and work for it yourself. Plus, it has only gotten big because no one tried to run a siege server as long as we have. Of course the thing that is there for the longest and does it more efficiently is going to do better, compare this situation to the production market. If a product is the only product of its kind for the longest, it is bound to succeed.

You can see it anywhere, the USMC decided not to sit around and they went from being a small time regiment to pretty much competing with the 63e in numbers. What did they do? They made a server that really was unique, offered slots that fit their needs, and then had their guys put in the work. Do the same for the Community Server. At this point it just sounds like the unwillingness to put in the time and effort to do something good, but just to point a finger.

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Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments.

Not really, the 63e Siege is aimed for the 63e. When you suggest a community siege, it's more aimed for the community so you can't compare a privately owned server to a server aimed to adhering to the community. Also, isn't this where the criticism of the siege is coming from, right? Not from a few individuals who over time have disliked the 63e, but actual regiment leaders? Otherwise there's nothing to talk about here if no actual regiments that participate in the open community don't speak up about it. So far the only current regiment leader to bring anything up is cheesypants, and his regiment has 60-100 active members. So where are the regiment leaders you speak of that say their regiments have failed do to the server. At this point it's a claim made by non-regiment leaders and more so people who have been in the community/browse the forums.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 08:39:09 pm
Feel free to do option 2 cause option 1 isn't a well thought out or fair approach.

Option 2 is probably an option that makes sense, but my entire point is no one ever puts the time to do that other than when Siwi had his up. Also, when you say we complain when we get pressured,it's more so I complain about it when people complain that the 63e isn't open to people and I bring up the fact is because the narrative always ends up one of bullying/harassment, hence why we try not to open our community to the outside 1v1/competitive/veteran community.

But yeah, Ap0c your second option sounds like a good option, have people from all around the community actually take their time for a community siege server and then populate it as a community. Don't see a problem with that, sounds great actually.

Take a moment to consider why: People don't dislike the 63e without reason, and many have said exactly why they dislike the 63e on this thread. It seems to me that the 63e aren't taking these grievances very seriously, and have just taken a "Hate us cuz they aint us" attitude towards the community, which is honestly pretty disappointing to me.

As for option 2, the problem with it is that it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months, and even then it is doubtful they could pull the pubs away from 63e Siege. Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments. Option 1 is far more reasonable I would say, and Option 2 should only be used as a last resort.

 
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it is neigh impossible to compete with 63e siege without concentrated effort from alot of the community for months and months

Firstly, we could care less who hates us. We aren't going to control that because we can't. Also, there's a lot of parties who have already spoken that showed they "don't care." Stop playing the victim of not taking the matter seriously when others are doing it, and only framing one group for it. But to the main point, How is option 2 impossible? If 63e Siege's success is accomplished through the concentrated effort from our NCOs and members, why can't Community Siege prosper with members of the community putting in the same amount of work? Why put in the work when we can just convince a private owner to open his server for us, and we just leech of the work they put in? You have to listen to your proposal. It involves the private owners who have put in the work to create it to what it is now, to just let anyone sit on the back of that work. No, go out yourself and work for it yourself. Plus, it has only gotten big because no one tried to run a siege server as long as we have. Of course the thing that is there for the longest and does it more efficiently is going to do better, compare this situation to the production market. If a product is the only product of its kind for the longest, it is bound to succeed.

You can see it anywhere, the USMC decided not to sit around and they went from being a small time regiment to pretty much competing with the 63e in numbers. What did they do? They made a server that really was unique, offered slots that fit their needs, and then had their guys put in the work. Do the same for the Community Server. At this point it just sounds like the unwillingness to put in the time and effort to do something good, but just to point a finger.

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Not only that, but you are basically asking of other regiments what you have said is unreasonable to demand from the 63e: A privately owned server opening up recruitment to other regiments.

Not really, the 63e Siege is aimed for the 63e. When you suggest a community siege, it's more aimed for the community so you can't compare a privately owned server to a server aimed to adhering to the community. Also, isn't this where the criticism of the siege is coming from, right? Not from a few individuals who over time have disliked the 63e, but actual regiment leaders? Otherwise there's nothing to talk about here if no actual regiments that participate in the open community don't speak up about it. So far the only current regiment leader to bring anything up is cheesypants, and his regiment has 60-100 active members. So where are the regiment leaders you speak of that say their regiments have failed do to the server. At this point it's a claim made by non-regiment leaders and more so people who have been in the community/browse the forums.
wtf are you on?? 71st only brings like 15 Lol and they only have 43 in their steam group Lol

Addition: You are literally delusional
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 08:41:47 pm
According to their page

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The 71st (Highland) Regiment of Foot is a Mount & Blade: Napoleonic Wars regiment dedicated to creating lasting friendships, enjoying weekly events, and accurately representing military structure, command, and tactics -- all the while making sure our members are disciplined and able to follow orders to-the-letter. We have an active roster of approximately 60 men, around 100 in total.

I just took that as their official number count, if so then they've mistakenly put on their page that they have 60-100 active men.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 08:43:17 pm
According to their page

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The 71st (Highland) Regiment of Foot is a Mount & Blade: Napoleonic Wars regiment dedicated to creating lasting friendships, enjoying weekly events, and accurately representing military structure, command, and tactics -- all the while making sure our members are disciplined and able to follow orders to-the-letter. We have an active roster of approximately 60 men, around 100 in total.

I just took that as their official number count, if so then they've mistakenly put on their page that they have 60-100 active men.
Right above that is the avatar of their steam group clearly showing that they have 43 people in it. Your attention to detail is seriously lacking.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 08:44:16 pm
wait what. It states 60-100 men right there. LOL
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 08:44:32 pm
Obviously they have not updated it lol
Don't pick and choose information. It's common sense.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 08:44:53 pm
wait what. It states 60-100 men right there. LOL
retard? hello? hello?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 08:49:02 pm
Obviously they have not updated it lol
Don't pick and choose information. It's common sense.

I can't distinguish that from their page, but stop trying to take the topic off to a different narrative and remain to the one at hand.

Whether they have X active members or Y active members, whichever they claim they have, the point is he's the only actual individual from a regimental standpoint who's posted about anything. But still, the only regiments who have a voice that will complain will be like.. 58e, 3eVolt remnants, 71st, and that's about it. So like, definitely not the bulk of anyone new, more so a bulk of those regiments have elements that heavily dislike the 63e.  So is the whole of the community actually being represented or just the side that is apparent on the forums/just are anti-63e.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 08:53:15 pm
Obviously they have not updated it lol
Don't pick and choose information. It's common sense.

I can't distinguish that from their page, but stop trying to take the topic off to a different narrative and remain to the one at hand.

Whether they have X active members or Y active members, whichever they claim they have, the point is he's the only actual individual from a regimental standpoint who's posted about anything. But still, the only regiments who have a voice that will complain will be like.. 58e, 3eVolt remnants, 71st, and that's about it. So like, definitely not the bulk of anyone new, more so a bulk of those regiments have elements that heavily dislike the 63e.  So is the whole of the community actually being represented or just the side that is apparent on the forums/just are anti-63e.
Last night I talked extensively with Immath and Dodge the leader of the 9te and the 23rd infact dodge helped me write my paragraph. He is not the leader of one of the regiments that you named and his regiment does participate in large 200 man events such as thunderstormers. I guess that means they are real community regiment??
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 08:54:28 pm
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Firstly, we could care less who hates us. We aren't going to control that because we can't

Funny joke. "Take a moment to consider why: People don't dislike the 63e without reason, and many have said exactly why they dislike the 63e on this thread. It seems to me that the 63e aren't taking these grievances very seriously, and have just taken a "Hate us cuz they aint us" attitude towards the community, which is honestly pretty disappointing to me."

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How is option 2 impossible? If 63e Siege's success is accomplished through the concentrated effort from our NCOs and members, why can't Community Siege prosper with members of the community putting in the same amount of work?

Its alot easier to tell your ~100 attendance to go to your siege server after an event, especially when a large number of your cadets were recruited there, than it is to contact 5-10 regiments that bring 10-20 to EVENTS to get their people on siege and populate it constantly. If the amount of "work" it took for a server to compete with 63e siege was equal to the amount of "work" it takes to maintain 63e siege, then this would be a non-issue, but I think you are failing to see that.

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Why put in the work when we can just convince a private owner to open his server for us, and we just leech of the work they put in? You have to listen to your proposal. It involves the private owners who have put in the work to create it to what it is now, to just let anyone sit on the back of that work. No, go out yourself and work for it yourself.

You are basically asking others to do exactly what you think is unreasonable for the 63e to do: Get a privately owned server and make it widely accessible to the community.

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Not really, the 63e Siege is aimed for the 63e. When you suggest a community siege, it's more aimed for the community so you can't compare a privately owned server to a server aimed to adhering to the community. Also, isn't this where the criticism of the siege is coming from, right? Not from a few individuals who over time have disliked the 63e, but actual regiment leaders? Otherwise there's nothing to talk about here if no actual regiments that participate in the open community don't speak up about it. So far the only current regiment leader to bring anything up is cheesypants, and his regiment has 60-100 active members. So where are the regiment leaders you speak of that say their regiments have failed do to the server. At this point it's a claim made by non-regiment leaders and more so people who have been in the community/browse the forums.

Almost this entire paragraph is a Straw Man Fallacy.

Listen, servers are often privately owned. You know NA_Groupfighting? Privately Owned. Its owned by Label, you may know him, visits the NA_GFing thread alot, is pretty bad at melee tbh, and he lets anybody recruit on his server. But, that still doesnt make it less privately owned. If we were to get a "Community Siege", it would be privately owned by some individual, most likely a regimental leader. However, you are asking them to open up their recruitment to everybody and put in all the effort to contact alot of regimental leaders and populate it CONSTANTLY. Yet, it is unfair to ask the 63e to put in minimal effort and just relax recruitment restrictions.

I also dont care who the criticism is coming from to be honest with you. If they are part of the community, and if it is valid criticism, then it shouldn't matter if they are the leader of the 71st or a 63e cadet. What I see now is a large portion of the community bringing up valid grievances against the 63e, and the 63e is just shrugging it off as "lol haters, dont hate cuz u aint". If this keeps up, I would be more than willing to get alot of the "leaders" around here and see exactly what they think.




Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 08:55:10 pm
Obviously they have not updated it lol
Don't pick and choose information. It's common sense.

I can't distinguish that from their page, but stop trying to take the topic off to a different narrative and remain to the one at hand.

Whether they have X active members or Y active members, whichever they claim they have, the point is he's the only actual individual who's posted about anything. But still, the only regiments who have a voice that will complain will be like.. 58e, 3eVolt remnants, 71st, and that's about it. So like, definitely not the bulk of anyone new, more so a bulk of those regiments have elements that heavily dislike the 63e.  So is the whole of the community actually being represented or just the side that is apparent on the forums/just are anti-63e.
I was not changing the subject. I was simply informing you of what was wrong with your thought process. As for me I just want a 1v1 or something but the 63e constantly challenges regiments such as the 23rd and the AEF. Regiments such as the 1er, 71st and 45e strive off of competitive play. Give or take a few public events spread throughout the week. Plus the 63e made the claim "Stick around for a while and then we will 1v1 you". However, when I brought up the issue with Cheesy never receiving a response for his requests, the subject was changed? How come? You're the largest regiment currently in NA yet you refuse to compete against other regiments competitively. It's been 4 months since the 63e has played against a top contending regiment. At this point it isn't about rebuilding. It's about saving face and the fear of being beat. Every regiment gets beat every now and then. Deal with it. It's part of competitive play.

Edit*- The purpose of this is to show where some of the animosity comes from. Both the 1er and 71st feel the same way.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 09:00:30 pm
Obviously they have not updated it lol
Don't pick and choose information. It's common sense.

I can't distinguish that from their page, but stop trying to take the topic off to a different narrative and remain to the one at hand.

Whether they have X active members or Y active members, whichever they claim they have, the point is he's the only actual individual who's posted about anything. But still, the only regiments who have a voice that will complain will be like.. 58e, 3eVolt remnants, 71st, and that's about it. So like, definitely not the bulk of anyone new, more so a bulk of those regiments have elements that heavily dislike the 63e.  So is the whole of the community actually being represented or just the side that is apparent on the forums/just are anti-63e.
I was not changing the subject. I was simply informing you of what was wrong with your thought process. As for me I just want a 1v1 or something but the 63e constantly challenges regiments such as the 23rd and the AEF. Regiments such as the 1er, 71st and 45e strive off of competitive play. Give or take a few public events spread throughout the week. Plus the 63e made the claim "Stick around for a while and then we will 1v1 you". However, when I brought up the issue with Cheesy never receiving a response for his requests, the subject was changed? How come? You're the largest regiment currently in NA yet you refuse to compete against other regiments competitively. It's been 4 months since the 63e has played against a top contending regiment. At this point it isn't about rebuilding. It's about saving face and the fear of being beat. Every regiment gets beat every now and then. Deal with it. It's part of competitive play.

Our choices as a regiment are neither your business or yours to make, so you need to stop acting like a little kid and just do other 1v1s. We aren't the only regiment, and just because one regiment doesn't participate doesn't mean shit to the community as a whole, more so you're looking for an excuse to complain. That has nothing to do with a community issue, more so a personal issue you and a few other regimental leaders who don't go to public linebattles or events, and strictly do 1v1s complain about. Just because your regiment doesn't have fun with the other regiments in linebattles doesn't mean ours has to follow the same mantra. Is it ok that your regiment just does 1v1s? Perfectly fine. Is it okay you 1v1 regiments that have the same outlook? Absolutely. But is it fine when you harass a regiment that doesn't want to 1v1 regiments that will not provide a good experience for their regiment members? Absolutely not. So grow up and find another reason, cause yours makes no sense. You guys want to change our rules, change our server, and apparently now change the events we choose to attend. Is there no end to the failure to see what you guys are suggesting is literally impossible/plain out stupid.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 09:01:57 pm
Last night I also asked dodge if he has anyone in his regiment that was originally in the 63e. He said he didn't and a large portion of the players in his regiment are newer to the game. I was thinking how come?? It isnt like The 63e do a fabulous job retaining all the recruits they get so it seems to me the recruits by the game, go on 63e siege, get recruited by 63e, play in a few linebattles, dont get individual experiance because there are so many of them and then quit the game because they are board. Where as when people join smaller regiments alot of the time they are treated better because the recruits mean more to the regiment and they feel apart of the community and they continue to play the game and the NA community grows! That is why I feel like the 63e siege needs to be opened. It is not about one regiment is about the community!
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 09:04:18 pm
Not responding to you anymore maccle cause it's obvious trolling / not responding with an actual solution. Only person at this point who actually is caring is other than me is Ap0c, that shows why the community is failing.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 09:05:28 pm
Squirts you're going full defense mode. Like a chihuahua backed into a corner...
Don't tell me that I am acting as a child. You're a hypocrite and far worse than I am. What I am simply trying to put out there is that the largest regiment possibly in the game currently is not adding to the competitive pool. A reason for alot of people leaving the game and losing interest is either

1) They realize the game isn't for them anymore and move on.
2) Never have events (especially 1v1's). These types of events are what people enjoy the most from what I have seen.

Regiments sometimes also depend solely on 1v1's because most events are not run well. However, I did enjoy bean's event last night. Refusing to 1v1 people, especially regiments you know love to 1v1 and depend on 1v1's shows that you don't care about the community or the regiments that want to do so.

Also when I started losing I didn't stop challenging regiments. I continued until we would win and still challenge all the regiments I can find.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on September 06, 2016, 09:05:37 pm
Oh my god Squirts has his head so far up his ass it's unreal. I don't know why anyone is trying to communicate with this ape.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 06, 2016, 09:10:48 pm
Squirts you're going full defense mode. Like a chihuahua backed into a corner...
Don't tell me that I am acting as a child. You're a hypocrite and far worse than I am. What I am simply trying to put out there is that the largest regiment possibly in the game currently is not adding to the competitive pool. A reason for alot of people leaving the game and losing interest is either

1) They realize the game isn't for them anymore and move on.
2) Never have events (especially 1v1's). These types of events are what people enjoy the most from what I have seen.

Regiments sometimes also depend solely on 1v1's because most events are not run well. However, I did enjoy bean's event last night. Refusing to 1v1 people, especially regiments you know love to 1v1 and depend on 1v1's shows that you don't care about the community or the regiments that want to do so.

Also when I started losing I didn't stop challenging regiments. I continued until we would win and still challenge all the regiments I can find.
Asian has said this before, but the 1er and 71st are in full agreement on this.
Again, the 63e says it wants to help the community, while doing nothing productive to help the community. Great job!
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 09:13:15 pm
Squirts you're going full defense mode. Like a chihuahua backed into a corner...
Don't tell me that I am acting as a child. You're a hypocrite and far worse than I am. What I am simply trying to put out there is that the largest regiment possibly in the game currently is not adding to the competitive pool. A reason for alot of people leaving the game and losing interest is either

1) They realize the game isn't for them anymore and move on.
2) Never have events (especially 1v1's). These types of events are what people enjoy the most from what I have seen.

Regiments sometimes also depend solely on 1v1's because most events are not run well. However, I did enjoy bean's event last night. Refusing to 1v1 people, especially regiments you know love to 1v1 and depend on 1v1's shows that you don't care about the community or the regiments that want to do so.

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Refusing to 1v1 people, especially regiments you know love to 1v1 and depend on 1v1's shows that you don't care about the community or the regiments that want to do so.

Stop with that. Regiments that solely depend on 1v1s are literally the groups of veterans that don't care about the game anymore / melee fiends. We don't have to appeal to the 3-4 regiments that do that.

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What I am simply trying to put out there is that the largest regiment possibly in the game currently is not adding to the competitive pool. .... A reason for alot of people leaving the game and losing interest is either

1) They realize the game isn't for them anymore and move on.
2) Never have events (especially 1v1's). These types of events are what people enjoy the most from what I have seen.

So you're saying that us choosing to stop an event we have on a certain day to go to another one where we can probably front about 25-30 guys to do a 1v1 against a handful of certain regiments that only do that certain type of event is killing the community. Erm... No.


Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 09:14:43 pm
The 63e is not the only regiment that is doing this (I can name quite a few). However seeing that you guys are the largest, it seems necessary to talk about this since the subject has come up. No, its not melee fiends that want to only melee. 1v1's have always been the basic and best form of competitive play in this mod. Has always been that way and will never changed. From MM to NW 1v1's have been the centerpiece.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 09:15:53 pm
The 63e is not the only regiment that is doing this (I can name quite a few). However seeing that you guys are the largest, it seems necessary to talk about this since the subject has come up.

But regardless, we're fronting the same numbers as anyone else. So realistically we aren't the only ones to blame because as you just said, others are doing it. So address it as such and not just an issue with the 63e. Thank you.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 09:18:18 pm
The 63e are the worst offenders when it comes to selective 1v1's. Also, the issue on the 63e and the community has come up. Which is why we are talking about it. Its a constructive argument. Want to solve issues? Especially with the community? Then listen to what people are saying and stop ignoring us.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 06, 2016, 09:21:01 pm
The best thing to do when a community of people who all hate each other presents jointly a list of grievances is pay attention, and realize that they may be right and you may be wrong.
One regiment does not make a community. When the community has issues with one regiment, than you have a problem. I hope you realize that this is serious stuff, and you shouldn't come up with fallacious bullshit for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 09:22:00 pm
The 63e is the worst offenders when it comes to selective 1v1's. Also, the issue on the 63e and the community has come up. Which is why we are talking about it. Its a constructive argument. Want to solve issues? Especially with the community? Then listen to what people are saying and stop ignoring us.

We can choose whether to take a 1v1 or not. Again, you ask for a 1v1 and expect a regiment to front the guys and skip the event they have planned for that day when they have more fun doing a linebattle or whatever is planned? No, it doesn't work that way pal. That's not killing a community. That's your regiment having to fight the same people and not like the fact people don't want to do what your regiment wants to do, so hop off with that shit somewhere else. Ain't repeating it again, you can't force anyone to do whatever it is you want if they don't like it. That's like the 63e inviting you to our events, and then you decline because you don't like big 200 man linebattles, but instead of us moving on with it we just choose to complain about the fact you just declined our invitation. Like listen to yourself. Lol.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on September 06, 2016, 09:24:32 pm
Asian and Theodin, I don't think he's even reading what you guys are saying.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 06, 2016, 09:26:17 pm
Asian and Theodin, I don't think he's even reading what you guys are saying.
As expected. It's like talking to a brick wall  :'(
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 06, 2016, 09:28:20 pm
Asian and Theodin, I don't think he's even reading what you guys are saying.
As expected. It's like talking to a brick wall  :'(
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 09:29:56 pm
Asian and Theodin, I don't think he's even reading what you guys are saying.
As expected. It's like talking to a brick wall  :'(
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Bravescot, aren't you the guy who copy and pastes boards on this forum and uses them for the War of Rights boards you moderate?

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=5635.0

http://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?956-Read-before-forming-a-unit

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on September 06, 2016, 09:31:41 pm
Asian and Theodin, I don't think he's even reading what you guys are saying.
As expected. It's like talking to a brick wall  :'(
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Bravescot, aren't you the guy who copy and pastes boards on this forum and uses them for the War of Rights boards you moderate?
Hey buddy stop going off-topic, pal.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Locust on September 06, 2016, 09:31:44 pm
Squirts is so goddamn thick.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on September 06, 2016, 09:32:15 pm
Squirts is so goddamn thick.
not even the good kind of thicc, he's just thick.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 06, 2016, 09:33:31 pm
Squirts is so goddamn thick.
not even the good kind of thicc, he's just thick.
He's doing more harm trying to defend the 63e than he is good.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 09:43:43 pm
I think it's right you discus both issue about NA community dying because of 63e monopoly and removal of Karth's admin powers on this thread. But you could also invite all NA regiments to conference (on ts, not 63e since half of people is banned lel) and sign some treaty. Like that servers either ban recruiting or allow it from everyone but host can have recruitment message when you connect to server. But I don't think there is much possibility of this happening since Karth is arrogant, selfish and power hungry, but here you go solution kids.

Srsly let's talk about Karth losing his Moderator.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 06, 2016, 09:45:09 pm
This is why we can't have nice things. Can't have a reasonable discussion or give any polite, constructive criticism without some e-peen stroking fuckwit taking it incredibly personally and de-railing the whole thing.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Grimsight on September 06, 2016, 09:45:29 pm
Obviously no one can force the 63e to do anything it doesn't want to. But don't act surprised that everyone hates you when
1) you stifle the 90% of the recruitment potential in NA and your only answer is "make your own server" (hint hint: NOT EASY when you competing against the 63e).
2) denying any 1v1 where you would lose (LITERALLY SCUM OF THE EARTH TACTIC). Please stop with be BS excuse that your players would "have more fun doing a linebattle". I'm sure there are many 63e members interested in 1v1ing. Problem is they're all shit. I'm sure your leaders would jump at the chance to 1v1 if their players weren't god awful (is it a coincidence you stopped 1v1 after you lost all your good players?)
3) you have this retard named "GeneralSquirts" literally sniffing his own farts on the forums.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Locust on September 06, 2016, 09:46:06 pm
I think it's right you discus both issue about NA community dying because of 63e monopoly and removal of Karth's admin powers on this thread. But you could also invite all NA regiments to conference (on ts, not 63e since half of people is banned lel) and sign some treaty. Like that servers either ban recruiting or allow it from everyone but host can have recruitment message when you connect to server. But I don't think there is much possibility of this happening since Karth is arrogant, selfish and power hungry, but here you go solution kids.

Srsly let's talk about Karth losing his Moderator.

You are going to have to cite SPECIFIC examples of his misconduct...
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 09:49:44 pm
I think it's right you discus both issue about NA community dying because of 63e monopoly and removal of Karth's admin powers on this thread. But you could also invite all NA regiments to conference (on ts, not 63e since half of people is banned lel) and sign some treaty. Like that servers either ban recruiting or allow it from everyone but host can have recruitment message when you connect to server. But I don't think there is much possibility of this happening since Karth is arrogant, selfish and power hungry, but here you go solution kids.

Srsly let's talk about Karth losing his Moderator.

You are going to have to cite SPECIFIC examples of his misconduct...
They were sent to EU community representative by PM and are under investigation.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 09:52:09 pm
I think it's right you discus both issue about NA community dying because of 63e monopoly and removal of Karth's admin powers on this thread. But you could also invite all NA regiments to conference (on ts, not 63e since half of people is banned lel) and sign some treaty. Like that servers either ban recruiting or allow it from everyone but host can have recruitment message when you connect to server. But I don't think there is much possibility of this happening since Karth is arrogant, selfish and power hungry, but here you go solution kids.

Srsly let's talk about Karth losing his Moderator.

You are going to have to cite SPECIFIC examples of his misconduct...

As it stands right now, I am more concerned with changes in forum policy/rules and solving some community issues rather than going man to man with moderators. Karth technically has done nothing wrong, and the punishments he has given out have been justified by the rules, however unpopular they may be. However, if you guys bring me some examples, id be more than willing to chase down Duuring and yell at him for you guys.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 09:53:34 pm
I think it's right you discus both issue about NA community dying because of 63e monopoly and removal of Karth's admin powers on this thread. But you could also invite all NA regiments to conference (on ts, not 63e since half of people is banned lel) and sign some treaty. Like that servers either ban recruiting or allow it from everyone but host can have recruitment message when you connect to server. But I don't think there is much possibility of this happening since Karth is arrogant, selfish and power hungry, but here you go solution kids.

Srsly let's talk about Karth losing his Moderator.

You are going to have to cite SPECIFIC examples of his misconduct...

As it stands right now, I am more concerned with changes in forum policy/rules and solving some community issues rather than going man to man with moderators. Karth technically has done nothing wrong, and the punishments he has given out have been justified by the rules, however unpopular they may be. However, if you guys bring me some examples, id be more than willing to chase down Duuring and yell at him for you guys.
You are saying BabyJesus ban was warranted, officially "spamming"?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 06, 2016, 09:56:22 pm
Babyj getting banned was 100% bullshit.  There is a clear cut example of not only abuse of power, but also how little some of the mods seem to care about actual justice.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 09:56:57 pm
No, I disagreed heavily with the ban. I even convinced Mack to post about it.

However, bans are Duurings thing, not Karth.

The way the ban process works is a "ban thread" is posted on the mod board, mods go +1 or -1 it and give their reasons, and Duuring considers all their opinions and decides if they are banned or not.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 09:59:18 pm
No, I disagreed heavily with the ban. I even convinced Mack to post about it.

However, bans are Duurings thing, not Karth.

The way the ban process works is a "ban thread" is posted on the mod board, mods go +1 or -1 it and give their reasons, and Duuring considers all their opinions and decides if they are banned or not.
So question for Duuring who asked for BabyJesus ban? It was Karth.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Karth on September 06, 2016, 10:00:42 pm
You do realize I can't ban anyone? Duuring the senior mod who has the permissions to actually ban people from the forum, and everything I do is by the rules otherwise I ask another mod to look into it if I am unsure.  So I have no idea what you are accusing me of.  As for everything else community related, lol, if you actually want to talk about the actual reasons which you are accusing me off then do it over a PM with me. 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:02:49 pm
You do realize I can't ban anyone? Duuring the senior mod who has the permissions to actually ban people from the forum, and everything I do is by the rules otherwise I ask another mod to look into it if I am unsure.  So I have no idea what you are accusing me of.  As for everything else community related, lol, if you actually want to talk about the actual reasons which you are accusing me off then do it over a PM with me.

No they can do that here, thanks.

But yes, Karth cant directly ban anyone. He probably did post the ban thread for Theo/BabyJ, but at the end of the day if Duuring disagrees with the ban, they aren't banned. End of story.

So you guys should be complaining to Duuring about the ban, not Karth.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 06, 2016, 10:03:27 pm
"Oh no don't blame me, I'm just an innocent young lad who had nothing whatsoever to do with babyj getting banned"
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Grimsight on September 06, 2016, 10:04:27 pm
Make this ban thread publicly viewable
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:06:48 pm
I could go screenshot Theo/BabyJs ban thread for you.

Never mind, its not allowed.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 06, 2016, 10:12:24 pm
I could go screenshot it for you Theo/BabyJs ban thread for you.

Not sure if thats allowed or not though.

would recommend talking to Duuring about it first to avoid any issues.

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edit, and yes, NA1 pub lb is still going.  The attendance is lower thanks to school and other stuff.  Several regiments want to come but cant sadly as they cant get enough people on.  perhaps in a few weeks when things calm down the regiments  will be able to get a full attendance again.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:13:59 pm
Thats exactly why I didn't go ahead and do it.

Went back and read the rules and I saw that conversations on that board are to remain private, but I will ask Duuring for permission later as there is alot of community tension right now and circumstances are abit special.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:15:51 pm
I actually forgot about the 63e hehe

You wanna blame 63e but there would be more competitive regiments to 1v1 if you all were not bandwagoning asskissers and flock to one regiment, like 1er and 71st etc... just sayin


And thunderstomer Ap0c cant be trusted should be punished
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 10:16:25 pm
Saying Karth had nothing to do with BabyJesus ban is absurd. He asked for it since he was shitting on his threads.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 06, 2016, 10:16:31 pm

edit, and yes, NA1 pub lb is still going.  The attendance is lower thanks to school and other stuff.  Several regiments want to come but cant sadly as they cant get enough people on.  perhaps in a few weeks when things calm down the regiments  will be able to get a full attendance again.

I see.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:18:22 pm
Thats exactly why I didn't go ahead and do it.

Went back and read the rules and I saw that conversations on that board are to remain private, but I will ask Duuring for permission later as there is alot of community tension right now and circumstances are abit special.
Theres some tension in my underpants right now
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:19:19 pm
Saying Karth had nothing to do with BabyJesus ban is absurd. He asked for it since he was shitting on his threads.

Im not saying Karth had nothing to do with it.

You can get mad at Karth for it.

But dont think he overstepped his bounds and will get mod removed. At the end of the day, Duuring takes responsibility for bans.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 10:22:43 pm
Saying Karth had nothing to do with BabyJesus ban is absurd. He asked for it since he was shitting on his threads.

Im not saying Karth had nothing to do with it.

You can get mad at Karth for it.

But dont think he overstepped his bounds and will get mod removed. At the end of the day, Duuring takes responsibility for bans.
Well Duuring is bad Head Moderator as well, a liar.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 06, 2016, 10:22:52 pm
Honestly, it's not overstepping his bounds that's the problem, it's where the bounds are in the first place. But I honestly think, Apoc, you should orginize a community meeting about the 63e problem, since people who are never on the same side are on the same side in this case.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:23:50 pm
I think I should be community rep, not apoc. Whos with me?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 06, 2016, 10:25:45 pm
I attempted with Becker to form a community run set of servers, but no one was interested. I would be down to try again, I can rent a server/help set it up and all, but it would be up to everyone to get it populated
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 06, 2016, 10:26:32 pm
Honestly, it's not overstepping his bounds that's the problem, it's where the bounds are in the first place. But I honestly think, Apoc, you should orginize a community meeting about the 63e problem, since people who are never on the same side are on the same side in this case.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 06, 2016, 10:27:39 pm
Honestly, it's not overstepping his bounds that's the problem, it's where the bounds are in the first place. But I honestly think, Apoc, you should orginize a community meeting about the 63e problem, since people who are never on the same side are on the same side in this case.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Karth on September 06, 2016, 10:29:18 pm
i don't see one regiment rep on here from the 3 200 man line battle events we host each week complaining.  We interact with more regiments than any other, you may not know there names but they do exist, and my guys go to other events as well.  All I see are people who I personally have had conflicts with, or punished via the forum for braking the rules, and their followers.  So if that is what you call the community then you are clearly mistaken, and it's a good thing I don't tell all my NCOs or officers to see this forum as then the flaming and insults on here would be x100.

If you have an actual suggestion or need advice on how to recruit then feel free to ask.  It's not like we have a '63e' privilege but I do not consider 63e just a regiment but it's own gaming community as well, and if people are mad at the fact we have people who are diehard 63e fans, or people who will actually buy and wear a 63e shirt then that's not something I'm going to stop.  An open conversation or suggestion that actually has some substance I'll listen and respond to
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:31:41 pm
i don't see one regiment rep on here from the 3 200 man line battle events we host each week complaining.  We interact with more regiments than any other, you may not know there names but they do exist, and my guys go to other events as well.  All I see are people who I personally have had conflicts with, or punished via the forum for braking the rules, and their followers.  So if that is what you call the community then you are clearly mistaken, and it's a good thing I don't tell all my NCOs or officers to see this forum as then the flaming and insults on here would be x100.

If you have an actual suggestion or need advice on how to recruit then feel free to ask.  It's not like we have a '63e' privilege but I do not consider 63e just a regiment but it's own gaming community as well, and if people are mad at the fact we have people who are diehard 63e fans, or people who will actually buy and wear a 63e shirt then that's not something I'm going to stop.  An open conversation or suggestion that actually has some substance I'll listen and respond to
you guys got shirts? where the fuck can I buy one?????
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:32:34 pm
Honestly, it's not overstepping his bounds that's the problem, it's where the bounds are in the first place. But I honestly think, Apoc, you should orginize a community meeting about the 63e problem, since people who are never on the same side are on the same side in this case.

What did you guys think I meant when I said im more concerned with Forum Rules/Policy rather than going man to man with moderators?

As it stands right now, I am more concerned with changes in forum policy/rules and solving some community issues rather than going man to man with moderators. Karth technically has done nothing wrong, and the punishments he has given out have been justified by the rules, however unpopular they may be. However, if you guys bring me some examples, id be more than willing to chase down Duuring and yell at him for you guys.

I also offered to get leaders together in an earlier post. Are you guys even reading?

This Thread
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:33:37 pm
7-1
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 06, 2016, 10:34:56 pm
7-1
post something on topic and useful or don't post here. 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:35:46 pm
It was on topic sir
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 06, 2016, 10:35:50 pm
Don't offer Apoc, just do it
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on September 06, 2016, 10:39:29 pm
Don't offer Apoc, just do it
yeah, it obviously needs to happen so lets get it going
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:40:14 pm
Don't offer Apoc, just do it
yeah, it obviously needs to happen so lets get it going

well considering ive been in class this whole conversation

can i get home first?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on September 06, 2016, 10:43:12 pm
Don't offer Apoc, just do it
yeah, it obviously needs to happen so lets get it going

well considering ive been in class this whole conversation

can i get home first?
community reps arent allowed to have personal lives everyone knows this
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:44:02 pm
literally replying on this thread on a computer in front of my english proffessor
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on September 06, 2016, 10:44:38 pm
Not reading the 5 pages I missed

Ap0c get us a community siege server, I'll play that shit hours a day
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:50:59 pm
I can't get shit, I'm poor AF. But I do have some ideas I'd like to pass around to reg leaders tonight.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 06, 2016, 10:55:09 pm
I attempted with Becker to form a community run set of servers, but no one was interested. I would be down to try again, I can rent a server/help set it up and all, but it would be up to everyone to get it populated
i think you chose the wrong person before. Choose the right one now. #GoApoc
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 06, 2016, 10:55:54 pm
Aight you trolls, 6 Est 1er TS you leaders. Be there or be square. We gonna talk some strats.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 06, 2016, 10:58:26 pm
Aight you trolls, 6 Est 1er TS you leaders. Be there or be square. We gonna talk some strats.
can you post the ts?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BillTheButcher on September 06, 2016, 10:59:52 pm
Aight you trolls, 6 Est 1er TS you leaders. Be there or be square. We gonna talk some strats.
Ill be there.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: maccle on September 06, 2016, 11:04:33 pm
Aight you trolls, 6 Est 1er TS you leaders. Be there or be square. We gonna talk some strats.
can you post the ts?
50.97.95.135:10457

im not going to be there im busy :(
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on September 06, 2016, 11:12:37 pm
I can't get shit, I'm poor AF. But I do have some ideas I'd like to pass around to reg leaders tonight.
No like get the FSE people 2 do it
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bauer16 on September 06, 2016, 11:15:33 pm
Spoiler
I can't get shit, I'm poor AF. But I do have some ideas I'd like to pass around to reg leaders tonight.
No like get the FSE people 2 do it
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Siwi used to have a siege server.  Really enjoyed it.  Not sure what happened to it.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 07, 2016, 12:01:57 am
I can't get shit, I'm poor AF. But I do have some ideas I'd like to pass around to reg leaders tonight.
No like get the FSE people 2 do it
they won't do it. Battle cry of freedom is coming.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 12:02:45 am
guess ill wait in the 1er TS all by myself
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 07, 2016, 12:04:59 am
My campus police gave me a $5 parking ticket. Can you beat them up for me big brother apoc?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 12:09:24 am
Actually its too sudden, ill give it a few days for word to get out. How about Saturday at 6 EST?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 07, 2016, 12:12:35 am
Create a steam group and invite all the NA leaders to it so they can get announcements when you're holding a meeting.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 07, 2016, 12:29:41 am
Aight you trolls, 6 Est 1er TS you leaders. Be there or be square. We gonna talk some strats.

Ohhh can I come, I've always wanted a lecture on NaCl! In all seriousness though, I hope you guys understand that a lot of time and dedication goes into managing the 63e, not just from the NCOs/COs but from each and every member as well. We aren't a part of this community to be spiteful or malicious, if other regiments or individuals want to achieve success whether it be gaining members or training the ones they have to high standards, we aren't going to oppose them or begrudge them for it and we never have. At the same time we have a community to run and maintain, that involves attracting new players to join us, a large number of which we gain from our public servers and other sources. We also have a number of dedicated recruiters who take a lot of time out of their day to recruit members and welcome them into the 63e. If you do not wish to put in the time and effort to achieve the results which you desire then you have no right to complain about another regiments success. You are all capable of buying servers of your own or taking the time out of your day to recruit but you choose not to. Rather than spending the time complaining on here why don't you be proactive, put in the work and you will find that in time you can all achieve similar results to the 63e.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 07, 2016, 12:32:20 am
#63eTactics
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on September 07, 2016, 12:34:55 am
memes
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 07, 2016, 12:39:41 am
I can't get shit, I'm poor AF. But I do have some ideas I'd like to pass around to reg leaders tonight.
Reach into my pocket diddy

Siwi used to have a siege server.  Really enjoyed it.  Not sure what happened to it.
People stopped playing it in favor of a shittier server with crappy rules
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Forgotfulking on September 07, 2016, 06:01:12 am
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 06:02:42 am
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

wat
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on September 07, 2016, 06:03:38 am
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

wat

Ban him now
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Forgotfulking on September 07, 2016, 06:03:47 am
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

wat
Can't contain the moraine Apoc cant contain
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 07, 2016, 02:02:27 pm
Record the meeting.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 07, 2016, 03:36:07 pm
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

who r u m8?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 07, 2016, 05:30:12 pm
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

who r u m8?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 05:40:16 pm
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

wat
Can't contain the moraine Apoc cant contain

BANNED
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on September 07, 2016, 06:35:00 pm
I think im more hated than Karth tbh but maybe thats just the north and south community getting to my head :P

wat
Can't contain the moraine Apoc cant contain

BANNED
Thank you thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP6v4T3VT7I
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 07, 2016, 06:35:31 pm
#63eTactics
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 07, 2016, 07:06:37 pm
Try to keep it serious.

As I've said before, do not expect any enforcement with regards to 63e Siege. You can continue discussing it until the end of days, but I personally don't see the point rather then getting yourself worked up.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 07, 2016, 07:11:27 pm
Try to keep it serious.

As I've said before, do not expect any enforcement with regards to 63e Siege. You can continue discussing it until the end of days, but I personally don't see the point rather then getting yourself worked up.

But Duuring, 63e Siege is a public server, we have to control it before it gets out of control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on September 07, 2016, 07:20:21 pm
Try to keep it serious.

As I've said before, do not expect any enforcement with regards to 63e Siege. You can continue discussing it until the end of days, but I personally don't see the point rather then getting yourself worked up.

I mean lets be honest here, the community not just the regiments that use the forum but the regiments who dont, are the ones who fuel the events.  The events which ARE on here are what you oversee.  Not as in you are in charge of the events but you help the community on the threads.  You help handle issues like arguments and what not.  On top of that the events are what attract new players to the game since through word of mouth and youtubers.  As someone who has the power to help grow the community you of all people should be the one to say hey lets try to meet in the middle since I would hope you are here to help the community.  And more than that I would hope you would want to see the community grow to the point where it wasnt just the 71st, 58e, 3evolt saying some of this stuff.  I get it durring its there server but at the very least what I think people should have is some form of conversation that you should moderate on the FSE teamspeak or somewhere other than here because if people arent able to talk issues out than people will be taken out of context or misunderstood. I am not saying one side is right or wrong but I will say that from someone who understands both sides it seems open dialogue has been non-existent on the forums so it needs to be resolved.  Or we can leave it like it is and sit here with popcorn and watch the community fall apart :)     
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 07:26:32 pm
Try to keep it serious.

As I've said before, do not expect any enforcement with regards to 63e Siege. You can continue discussing it until the end of days, but I personally don't see the point rather then getting yourself worked up.

We want the rules on 63e siege

The 63e obviously view this thread

What's wrong with posting about it here?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 07, 2016, 07:30:01 pm
There isn't anything wrong with posting here but what Duuring is saying is that you shouldn't expect that you'll be successful because it's a privately owned server. The 63e don't have to do anything that they don't want to do.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 07:34:01 pm
Getting their rules changed iant the only possibility we are discussing though. However, it is definitely worth talking about because it would be the best way to solve the issue.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on September 07, 2016, 07:39:24 pm
Getting their rules changed iant the only possibility we are discussing though. However, it is definitely worth talking about because it would be the best way to solve the issue.

I mean you would have to talk to the reasonable people in the community and not the trolls and people who dont even play the game that much about the issues.  Just saying ::)  To listen to the trolls who slam 63e would kinda be pointless since most of them dont even play the game that much.   8)

But than again.....where to find those people lol.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 07, 2016, 07:41:17 pm
edited. said what i said

There isn't anything wrong with posting here but what Duuring is saying is that you shouldn't expect that you'll be successful because it's a privately owned server. The 63e don't have to do anything that they don't want to do.

Getting their rules changed iant the only possibility we are discussing though. However, it is definitely worth talking about because it would be the best way to solve the issue.

When we tried talking about the other possibilities, you changed the narrative back to changing a private server instead of the other possibilities.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 07, 2016, 07:50:02 pm
Does squirts even have a say about the server? Like even if squirts wanted to would he be able to change the server rules?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Shadow on September 07, 2016, 08:15:10 pm
I think it's pretty safe to say that the 63e are not changing their stance on their server. It seems like the most appropriate action would be to explore other options (regarding the server), as been stated before.

Unless Karth or another individual is able to make a decision on behalf of Karth, you all could chat offline (aka Steam or TS, etc) to get the best course of action.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 07, 2016, 08:26:15 pm
Does squirts even have a say about the server? Like even if squirts wanted to would he be able to change the server rules?

No, that is a different process on it's own. I may have a say on it if the discussion came up (most likely never), but the final decision doesn't fall down on only my thoughts.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 07, 2016, 09:11:17 pm
I think it's pretty safe to say that the 63e are not changing their stance on their server. It seems like the most appropriate action would be to explore other options (regarding the server), as been stated before.

Unless Karth or another individual is able to make a decision on behalf of Karth, you all could chat offline (aka Steam or TS, etc) to get the best course of action.
Just delete forum if there is nothing we can use it for cheese pizza fanboy
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 07, 2016, 10:29:35 pm
I think it's pretty safe to say that the 63e are not changing their stance on their server. It seems like the most appropriate action would be to explore other options (regarding the server), as been stated before.

Unless Karth or another individual is able to make a decision on behalf of Karth, you all could chat offline (aka Steam or TS, etc) to get the best course of action.
No thanks. This forum was designed to be a community gathering space, where we could discuss things like this. If you want a forum filled with fairies and rainbows this isn't the place for you.
This thread is for the NA community to discuss things with the CR; no matter how far we get to solving problems, open discussion like this is very helpful.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 07, 2016, 10:46:53 pm
I dont think telling the community to stop being so triggered is going to make people less triggered

actually I think its doing quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 07, 2016, 10:58:08 pm
I dont think telling the community to stop being so triggered is going to make people less triggered

actually I think its doing quite the opposite.

b- but but but but but it worked for malakith... oh... right...
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 07, 2016, 11:18:39 pm
Getting their rules changed iant the only possibility we are discussing though. However, it is definitely worth talking about because it would be the best way to solve the issue.

I mean you would have to talk to the reasonable people in the community and not the trolls and people who dont even play the game that much about the issues.  Just saying ::)  To listen to the trolls who slam 63e would kinda be pointless since most of them dont even play the game that much.   8)

But than again.....where to find those people lol.

Bean is right, how can you even expect us to open an eyelid to your concerns when, the said concerns are being put forward by a group of hateful, irrational individuals, who have an obvious prejudice towards the 63e that extends further than us simply owning a Siege server. If you want meaningful discussion to take place then gather a group of people who think objectively, have a genuine concern for the community and who are still active in the game. Otherwise you guys are just wasting your time.

With regards to the server. I really don't see why we should sacrifice the effort we have put in to make that server successful just so lazy individuals can profit of out success. As I have said before every person here has the ability to do what we have done but they need to dedicate a certain amount of time and effort in the same way that countless 63e NCOs/COs and members have done over the years, in order to achieve success. You can't just sit on a forum and whine and expect things to magically happen, you guys have to be proactive.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 07, 2016, 11:31:35 pm
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 07, 2016, 11:47:35 pm
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.

In all fairness I am not directing my previous reply to all who are opposed to the 63e or have brought up a concern they have about us. At the end of the day criticism, as long as it is constructive, is healthy and I welcome it. That being said certain individuals have posted here out of pure prejudice against the 63e, it is to those people that my previous reply was aimed. The people who have made genuinely valid points, I (and I'm sure other 63e officers) have read and thought about them seriously.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 07, 2016, 11:54:03 pm
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.

In all fairness I am not directing my previous reply to all who are opposed to the 63e or have brought up a concern they have about us. At the end of the day criticism, as long as it is constructive, is healthy and I welcome it. That being said certain individuals have posted here out of pure prejudice against the 63e, it is to those people that my previous reply was aimed. The people who have made genuinely valid points, I (and I'm sure other 63e officers) have read and thought about them seriously.
the last time theodin posted constructive criticism of a 63e event he was banned off the forums :(
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 08, 2016, 12:03:56 am
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.

In all fairness I am not directing my previous reply to all who are opposed to the 63e or have brought up a concern they have about us. At the end of the day criticism, as long as it is constructive, is healthy and I welcome it. That being said certain individuals have posted here out of pure prejudice against the 63e, it is to those people that my previous reply was aimed. The people who have made genuinely valid points, I (and I'm sure other 63e officers) have read and thought about them seriously.
the last time theodin posted constructive criticism of a 63e event he was banned off the forums :(
Which, coincidentally, is something that brought me into this whole argument
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 12:45:13 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 12:47:02 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.

Movement. What. We're not trying to end 200 years of slavery here, we're talking about a game server
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on September 08, 2016, 12:48:30 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.

Movement. What. We're not trying to end 200 years of slavery here, we're talking about a game server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 12:49:31 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.

Movement. What. We're not trying to end 200 years of slavery here, we're talking about a game server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

What does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on September 08, 2016, 12:50:59 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.

Movement. What. We're not trying to end 200 years of slavery here, we're talking about a game server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
What does that have to do with anything?
fuck up my post

To troll the living shit out of you. Also why do people even try to budge the 63e to do anything. They are like a mule that will just sit there and ignore you and will not change... ever.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 12:51:50 am
I'm still failing to understand what you were trying to post with that wiki link? Lol.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 12:53:27 am
Ignore Russian, he is a very triggered conservative who worships the alternative media.

Movement doesn't have to be large scale. Do I have to pull up the dictionary on you again like I did for "monopoly"?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on September 08, 2016, 12:54:26 am
Ignore Russian, he is a very triggered conservative who worships the alternative media.

Movement doesn't have to be large scale. Do I have to pull up the dictionary on you again like I did for "monopoly"?
mo·nop·o·ly
məˈnäpəlē/Submit
noun
1.
the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.

Also the server that all of the noobs go on is bbg bot survival and the 63e siege server only like climaxes usually at 25 people.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 12:57:59 am
Ignore Russian, he is a very triggered conservative who worships the alternative media.

Movement doesn't have to be large scale. Do I have to pull up the dictionary on you again like I did for "monopoly"?
mo·nop·o·ly
məˈnäpəlē/Submit
noun
1.
the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.

Exactly, making a siege server isn't exclusive nor has the 63e made it exclusive. In this case, the commodity being new players. Anyone is able to obtain new players; we have not done any single thing to make that exclusive.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on September 08, 2016, 12:59:55 am
I think the main point squirts to most people is about the whole "recruiting" policy on the 63e siege :p.  (lets not forget bot bbg survival)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 08, 2016, 01:02:19 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.

Movement. What. We're not trying to end 200 years of slavery here, we're talking about a game server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
i agree with you russian. the 63e does treat teh community like their slaves or "proprerty"
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 08, 2016, 01:02:49 am
The sooner this whole movement is treated by the 63e as something other than mindless 63e hate, the sooner we can be constructive.

No, in order for us to not treat it as mindless hate, you have to be constructive first, it doesn't work otherwise.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 01:05:07 am
Think of it like this. Since we're using the business term "monopoly" here, let us look at it in that perspective. You say we're a monoply, yet we take no action to make the entire market exclusive, the only thing that is exclusive is who can recruit on our private server, not the entire opportunity for anyone to recruit in the game. It's more so not the fact we're a monopoly, but that there is no competition in the business. From a business perspective, the "product", in this case the server, is undisputed in conpetition, therefore bound for success.

In economics, competition is the rivalry among sellers trying to achieve such goals as increasing profits, market share, and sales volume by varying the elements of the marketing mix: price, product, distribution, and promotion.

We have our marketing in media, screenshots, and server population. The fact is there is no competition to begin with, therefore there is nothing that would stop us from a successful server.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 08, 2016, 01:12:56 am
I thought that we were a socialist society so we should all share
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 08, 2016, 01:13:59 am
No one cares, didn't read.

So, I have a few regiments that are down to work towards getting a new server up for the benefit of the community. If we turn this into an official project, I'll cover the cost and help set it up. Active community reps from each regiment can get admin on it and a council of admins from each regiment make decisions. We can discuss it further at the meeting on Saturday, I'll be there if I remember
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on September 08, 2016, 01:14:01 am
I thought that we were a socialist society so we should all share
Where is gluk so he tell us about his "perfect" socialist society. Cradle to grave baby.  8)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 01:29:53 am
cant even drive home without a page being added

all ill say is this

Ignore Russian, he is a very triggered conservative who worships the alternative media.

Movement doesn't have to be large scale. Do I have to pull up the dictionary on you again like I did for "monopoly"?
mo·nop·o·ly
məˈnäpəlē/Submit
noun
1.
the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.

Exactly, making a siege server isn't exclusive nor has the 63e made it exclusive. In this case, the commodity being new players. Anyone is able to obtain new players; we have not done any single thing to make that exclusive.

wasn't the context i was using it in: another straw man

youd make a great farmer, crows would never bother ur fields
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 01:32:26 am
cant even drive home without a page being added

all ill say is this

Ignore Russian, he is a very triggered conservative who worships the alternative media.

Movement doesn't have to be large scale. Do I have to pull up the dictionary on you again like I did for "monopoly"?
mo·nop·o·ly
məˈnäpəlē/Submit
noun
1.
the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.

Exactly, making a siege server isn't exclusive nor has the 63e made it exclusive. In this case, the commodity being new players. Anyone is able to obtain new players; we have not done any single thing to make that exclusive.

wasn't the context i was using it in: another straw man

youd make a great farmer, crows would never bother ur fields


I'm confused, when a 63e individual in your view doesn't take the discussion or "grievances"  seriously, you make a statement here. Yet when a non-63e member, and in this case yourself decides to do the same once the conversation heads somewhere it is fine? Seems like there's no need for anyone in the 63e to try and solve anything if that's the case.

Thought the job as the Community Rep is to show non-bias and fairness regardless of his thoughts, seems to not be the case here. I didn't expect this from you apoc, very disappointed in you.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 01:38:55 am
Stop using straw man arguments and taking things out of context and make an argument that will actually warrant a serious response.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 08, 2016, 01:39:36 am
#63eTactics
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 01:46:33 am
Stop using straw man arguments and taking things out of context and make an argument that will actually warrant a serious response.

Once you show you're here as a CR Rep to represent both sides and not one, then perhaps a real discussion can be made. Also, you have yet to actually respond to the things I brought up.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 01:47:12 am
Stop using straw man arguments and taking things out of context and make an argument that will actually warrant a serious response.

Once you show you're here as a CR Rep to represent both sides and not one, then perhaps a real discussion can be made.

Give me one example of bias.

Am I biased towards the 71st? the 45e? 1er? AEF? 58e?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 01:48:38 am
Stop using straw man arguments and taking things out of context and make an argument that will actually warrant a serious response.

Once you show you're here as a CR Rep to represent both sides and not one, then perhaps a real discussion can be made.

Give me one example of bias.

Am I biased towards the 71st? the 45e? 1er? AEF?
 

Posts above is good enough, you consistently say to anyone 63e in this thread to take it serious, when you yourself and many others have done the same.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 01:51:02 am
Stop using straw man arguments and taking things out of context and make an argument that will actually warrant a serious response.

Once you show you're here as a CR Rep to represent both sides and not one, then perhaps a real discussion can be made.

Give me one example of bias.

Am I biased towards the 71st? the 45e? 1er? AEF?
 

Posts above is good enough, you consistently say to anyone 63e in this thread to take it serious, when you yourself and many others have been memeing/not responding with any serious intent on certain cases.

Yeah, obviously that one post where I got tired of you, Munj, and Karth not taking this seriously and decided to meme on you is evidence I am extremely biased against the 63e despite 13 pages saying otherwise.

Here, listen to this:

Lol anti-Karth, more like started by a bunch of salty ex-63e members who influenced a bunch of other bandwagoners, and now I get blamed for almost every single punishment given out of these forums.  I am not complaining, but again just know this 'anti-Karth' stuff is full of nothing.

Come back when yall take this seriously and you dont feel like posting a bunch of straw men
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 01:55:47 am
Thank you for proving on why ground won't ever be made moving forward.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 01:57:41 am
Yeah, Ill be too busy plotting against the 63e and handing out favors to the 58e because I am too caught up in my bias. Sorry bout that.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 08, 2016, 02:02:16 am
Tbh you have seemed pretty bias in this thread imo. Your job is not to lead one of the arguing sides but to bridge the gap between the two and to be the middleman for more productive conversations. Your job is to advocate for both sides and to help them come to a favourable consensus, not solely push what you believe to be right. You are a representative of ALL the community, including the 63e, not just yourself.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 02:07:14 am
Tbh you have seemed pretty bias in this thread imo. Your job is not to lead one of the arguing sides but to bridge the gap between the two and to be the middleman for more productive conversations. Your job is to advocate for both sides and to help them come to a favourable consensus, not solely push what you believe to be right. You are a representative of ALL the community, including the 63e, not just yourself.

My job is to solve community issues and keep the mods informed of said issues. In certain circumstances, this may require me to take a stance on a particular issue, as I have done. The stance I was taking I did not see as anti-63e, but pro-community. It wouldn't kill them to lessen up the restrictions on recruitment on their server, but it would open up a huge server to recruitment from other regiments who are alot more desperate for recruits. But the 63e have made it very clear that all discussions about said solution are off the table, and that anyone who has a greivance against their regiment as a result of that or other past/current issues are just mindless haters. I find that stance abit immature and counterproductive, and I have voiced that opinion. Now according to them, I too am now a mindless, biased hater.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 08, 2016, 02:11:42 am
It's their server and their right to do with as they please. You represent the community but you haven't listened to what the 63e want. They've made it clear on their stance on the topic and still you pressure them.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 02:19:42 am
I havent denied them their right to do with it as they please, have I? I am only trying to convince them to do with it in a manner that would benefit the community. There aren't a whole lot of other options, and the ideal way to go about it would be to get them to relax restrictions. I have been on this thread, and I have seen the 63e's concerns, which primarily focus around "Don't wanna, screw off haters. Go get your own server". Now, I am open to getting a different server, but this will mean two things:

1) Me and a large part of the community are going to have to put in some money and a lot of effort to get a server running in direct competition with the 63e, which wont be easy due to their massive playerbase.

2) We are going to be in direct competition with the 63e's server. which also is not exactly in the best interest of their server or their regiment.

I just see them relaxing their restrictions on recruitment as the clear cut best option, so of course I am gonna push pretty hard for them to do just that. Its not 63e bias, its not hatred of the 63e, its literally just the best option by a mile.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 02:21:11 am
Tbh you have seemed pretty bias in this thread imo. Your job is not to lead one of the arguing sides but to bridge the gap between the two and to be the middleman for more productive conversations. Your job is to advocate for both sides and to help them come to a favourable consensus, not solely push what you believe to be right. You are a representative of ALL the community, including the 63e, not just yourself.

My job is to solve community issues and keep the mods informed of said issues. In certain circumstances, this may require me to take a stance on a particular issue, as I have done. The stance I was taking I did not see as anti-63e, but pro-community. It wouldn't kill them to lessen up the restrictions on recruitment on their server, but it would open up a huge server to recruitment from other regiments who are alot more desperate for recruits. But the 63e have made it very clear that all discussions about said solution are off the table, and that anyone who has a greivance against their regiment as a result of that or other past/current issues are just mindless haters. I find that stance abit immature and counterproductive, and I have voiced that opinion. Now according to them, I too am now a mindless, biased hater.

No one at any stage of this discussion called you a mindless hater.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 02:24:55 am
Tbh you have seemed pretty bias in this thread imo. Your job is not to lead one of the arguing sides but to bridge the gap between the two and to be the middleman for more productive conversations. Your job is to advocate for both sides and to help them come to a favourable consensus, not solely push what you believe to be right. You are a representative of ALL the community, including the 63e, not just yourself.

My job is to solve community issues and keep the mods informed of said issues. In certain circumstances, this may require me to take a stance on a particular issue, as I have done. The stance I was taking I did not see as anti-63e, but pro-community. It wouldn't kill them to lessen up the restrictions on recruitment on their server, but it would open up a huge server to recruitment from other regiments who are alot more desperate for recruits. But the 63e have made it very clear that all discussions about said solution are off the table, and that anyone who has a greivance against their regiment as a result of that or other past/current issues are just mindless haters. I find that stance abit immature and counterproductive, and I have voiced that opinion. Now according to them, I too am now a mindless, biased hater.

No one at any stage of this discussion called you a mindless hater.

"Thought the job as the Community Rep is to show non-bias and fairness regardless of his thoughts, seems to not be the case here. I didn't expect this from you apoc, very disappointed in you."

You are accusing me of bias against the 63e that you, Munj, and Karth have tried to "debunk" as just mindless hate that is "full of nothing".
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 08, 2016, 02:25:56 am
Tbh you have seemed pretty bias in this thread imo. Your job is not to lead one of the arguing sides but to bridge the gap between the two and to be the middleman for more productive conversations. Your job is to advocate for both sides and to help them come to a favourable consensus, not solely push what you believe to be right. You are a representative of ALL the community, including the 63e, not just yourself.

My job is to solve community issues and keep the mods informed of said issues. In certain circumstances, this may require me to take a stance on a particular issue, as I have done. The stance I was taking I did not see as anti-63e, but pro-community. It wouldn't kill them to lessen up the restrictions on recruitment on their server, but it would open up a huge server to recruitment from other regiments who are alot more desperate for recruits. But the 63e have made it very clear that all discussions about said solution are off the table, and that anyone who has a greivance against their regiment as a result of that or other past/current issues are just mindless haters. I find that stance abit immature and counterproductive, and I have voiced that opinion. Now according to them, I too am now a mindless, biased hater.

No one at any stage of this discussion called you a mindless hater.
you didnt use those words exactly but you yea you kinda did
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Locust on September 08, 2016, 03:38:29 am
You guys are going in circles at this point. Nobody really wants to compromise at the end of the day.

If I were you APOC, I would forget about the 63e opening up their server to public recruitment and instead work with Siwi and others toward getting a community server(s) going. My advice would be to instead of putting all your eggs in one basket, diversify your portfolio. So have a zombie server, and TDM, CTF, etc. I wouldn't waste my time on siege since 63e has that locked down.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 04:07:05 am
You guys are going in circles at this point. Nobody really wants to compromise at the end of the day.

If I were you APOC, I would forget about the 63e opening up their server to public recruitment and instead work with Siwi and others toward getting a community server(s) going. My advice would be to instead of putting all your eggs in one basket, diversify your portfolio. So have a zombie server, and TDM, CTF, etc. I wouldn't waste my time on siege since 63e has that locked down.


Yes. Diversifying like the USMC did is a good idea. The IV went into some cool concepts when they had servers up for example.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 08, 2016, 04:30:41 am
Eh, there are probably 100-200(little higher currently thanks to the sale but school is taking a hit on this) pubs on average that play during peak hours.  Some nights you are lucky to have 50 on.  If your goal is to attract players to your server, you will have to compete with the top 3 currently most active servers.(pub play)  add in the fact that you are trying to run 2-3 servers(if you are trying to have several different game modes on different servers) at the same time, that just means less players on any one server.  Even if you get it populated, you will have to keep it populated.(easier said then done.  especially as the brand new effect wears off) Depending on how things shake out, the quality of the server, the game mode, the quality of the maps, admins, and possibly scripts you may be able to get your server populated consistently.(doubtful)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Yorkshire Pudding on September 08, 2016, 04:32:40 am
Can I just quickly ask. As Community Rep I understand you are trying to look out for the good of the community but aren't these thoughts about requesting rule changes of servers a bit far. The CR is meant to be for FSE and to make sure the management of events and regimental issues is dealt with.

I mean the way this is going about it seems like the CR (AC0P) feels they could come to any Event and Server and demand them to make changes to it's rules. Which is entirely wrong. How we run a Server or Event or something which is privately owned or managed by a regiment or person is their business. If it is Successful/Fails, this is under their heads not yours. I do understand why you may feel this server can be a problem for you to handle but it is out of your hands and jurisdiction. I also agree with Munj anyone can come and just use the same techniques we did with a Community Server or another privately owned server and maybe then you can counter act our server being a "problem".

Now I am one of the Head Admins with Karth and Nathan and I am keeping an eye on this thread. So if you wish try discuss what you want to see changed, carry on, seems you won't stop. But the likely hood that I will agree and want to take it up in discussion with the other Head Admins is unlikely but I am keeping up with this thread.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Locust on September 08, 2016, 04:32:48 am
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 08, 2016, 05:01:35 am
Can I just quickly ask. As Community Rep I understand you are trying to look out for the good of the community but aren't these thoughts about requesting rule changes of servers a bit far. The CR is meant to be for FSE and to make sure the management of events and regimental issues is dealt with.

I mean the way this is going about it seems like the CR (AC0P) feels they could come to any Event and Server and demand me to make change it's rules. Which is entirely wrong. How we run a Server or Event or something which is privately owned or managed by a regiment or person is their business. If it is Successful/Fails is under their hands not yours. I do understand why you may feel this server can be a problem for you to handle but it is out of your hands and jurisdiction. I also agree with Munj anyone can come and just use the same techniques we did with a Community Server or another privately owned server and maybe then you can counter act our server being a "problem".

Now I am one of the Head Admins with Karth and Nathan and I am keeping an eye on this thread. So if you wish try discuss what you want to see changed, carry on, seems you won't stop. But the likely hood that I will agree and want to take it up in discussion with the other Head Admins is unlikely but I am keeping up with this thread.

No, they or anyone else outside of those who own the server have the ability to change your server rules. They can, like anyone else can request they be changed.  Their reasoning may be good or bad,  Same for their intentions.  You can run your server the way you deem fit.   even if others think it is a good or bad way to go about it.

there is nothing with them requesting the rules be changed,   They don't have the authority to change them.   

that goes for any other server out there. 

Not sure why you feel they cant request the rules be changed.  You don't have to agree or follow through with their requests.  As long as they do it in the proper place in a good manner, there is really nothing wrong with it. 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 08, 2016, 05:05:06 am
Can I just quickly ask. As Community Rep I understand you are trying to look out for the good of the community but aren't these thoughts about requesting rule changes of servers a bit far. The CR is meant to be for FSE and to make sure the management of events and regimental issues is dealt with.

I mean the way this is going about it seems like the CR (AC0P) feels they could come to any Event and Server and demand them to make changes to it's rules. Which is entirely wrong. How we run a Server or Event or something which is privately owned or managed by a regiment or person is their business. If it is Successful/Fails, this is under their heads not yours. I do understand why you may feel this server can be a problem for you to handle but it is out of your hands and jurisdiction. I also agree with Munj anyone can come and just use the same techniques we did with a Community Server or another privately owned server and maybe then you can counter act our server being a "problem".

Now I am one of the Head Admins with Karth and Nathan and I am keeping an eye on this thread. So if you wish try discuss what you want to see changed, carry on, seems you won't stop. But the likely hood that I will agree and want to take it up in discussion with the other Head Admins is unlikely but I am keeping up with this thread.

At no point in this conversation did Ap0c "demand" anything.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Yorkshire Pudding on September 08, 2016, 05:15:20 am
Spoiler
Can I just quickly ask. As Community Rep I understand you are trying to look out for the good of the community but aren't these thoughts about requesting rule changes of servers a bit far. The CR is meant to be for FSE and to make sure the management of events and regimental issues is dealt with.

I mean the way this is going about it seems like the CR (AC0P) feels they could come to any Event and Server and demand me to make change it's rules. Which is entirely wrong. How we run a Server or Event or something which is privately owned or managed by a regiment or person is their business. If it is Successful/Fails is under their hands not yours. I do understand why you may feel this server can be a problem for you to handle but it is out of your hands and jurisdiction. I also agree with Munj anyone can come and just use the same techniques we did with a Community Server or another privately owned server and maybe then you can counter act our server being a "problem".

Now I am one of the Head Admins with Karth and Nathan and I am keeping an eye on this thread. So if you wish try discuss what you want to see changed, carry on, seems you won't stop. But the likely hood that I will agree and want to take it up in discussion with the other Head Admins is unlikely but I am keeping up with this thread.

No, they or anyone else outside of those who own the server have the ability to change your server rules. They can, like anyone else can request they be changed.  Their reasoning may be good or bad,  Same for their intentions.  You can run your server the way you deem fit.   even if others think it is a good or bad way to go about it.

there is nothing with them requesting the rules be changed,   They don't have the authority to change them.   

that goes for any other server out there. 

Not sure why you feel they cant request the rules be changed.  You don't have to agree or follow through with their requests.  As long as they do it in the proper place in a good manner, there is really nothing wrong with it.
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Ok yes good point I am tired. I guess one major point I wanted to put out is as a Head Admin I do oversee this sort of stuff and it does get noted. But as said there are other ways around this NA Community Problem (I feel the 63e_NA_Siege doesn't have the same effect on the EU community or so I'd assume) which have been repeated and can be brought into discussion by those on board with the idea and get another server to counter act our server being this problem. This means you don't have to discuss with us about our rules and can have a server you guys have jurisdiction over.

Spoiler
Can I just quickly ask. As Community Rep I understand you are trying to look out for the good of the community but aren't these thoughts about requesting rule changes of servers a bit far. The CR is meant to be for FSE and to make sure the management of events and regimental issues is dealt with.

I mean the way this is going about it seems like the CR (AC0P) feels they could come to any Event and Server and demand them to make changes to it's rules. Which is entirely wrong. How we run a Server or Event or something which is privately owned or managed by a regiment or person is their business. If it is Successful/Fails, this is under their heads not yours. I do understand why you may feel this server can be a problem for you to handle but it is out of your hands and jurisdiction. I also agree with Munj anyone can come and just use the same techniques we did with a Community Server or another privately owned server and maybe then you can counter act our server being a "problem".

Now I am one of the Head Admins with Karth and Nathan and I am keeping an eye on this thread. So if you wish try discuss what you want to see changed, carry on, seems you won't stop. But the likely hood that I will agree and want to take it up in discussion with the other Head Admins is unlikely but I am keeping up with this thread.

At no point in this conversation did Ap0c "demand" anything.
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Also I misread a section earlier which had the word demand in, I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 08, 2016, 08:27:55 am
Come back when yall take this seriously and you dont feel like posting a bunch of straw men

You do realise that we (I.e. Squirts, Karth and myself) could've completely ignored this thread the moment it turned the way it did, but we didn't. It is you coming to us, not the other way round. Your CRship does not give you say or power over a regiment, nor does the say of anyone who has commented on this thread so far. Your prerogative only extends as far as the NW section of FSE, so don't delude yourself and other people that you can subject us or any other regiment/individuals to your will.

I am not saying that we are never willing to come to negotiation, but certainly not with you or anyone else here (with an assumed couple of exceptions), who have shown complete predujice towards the 63e though this thread.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 08:47:45 am
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You do realise that we (I.e. Squirts, Karth and myself) could've completely ignored this thread the moment it turned the way it did, but we didn't. It is you coming to us, not the other way round.

You might as well not have come to thread for all you have brought these last couple pages. At least Squirts has attempted to be somewhat constructive from the start addressed a few issues, and even still he was trying to negotiate a solution. You? You started off being constructive I suppose, but not so much these last couple pages.

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Your CRship does not give you say or power over a regiment, nor does the say of anyone who has commented on this thread so far.

Obviously not, this whole 63e siege thing would be a non issue if I had any real power over you to be quite honest. I would have had your server opened up after a few brief words in a steam chat with some of the 63e folk rather than bother with such a long dramatic debate.

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Your prerogative only extends as far as the NW section of FSE, so don't delude yourself and other people that you can subject us or any other regiment/individuals to your will.


I'm attempting to subject you to my will am I? How so? Did I threaten to warn you? Mute you? Ban you? If I am attempting to misuse my CR powers as a means to subjugate, you please, report me to Duuring right now. He has made quite clear that a CR who breaches trust with the mod team is out.

I have done nothing but hold an open debate on this thread, which you are free to jump into as soon as you stop being ridiculous. You are doing nothing but throwing empty accusations at me.

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I am not saying that we are never willing to come to negotiation, but certainly not with you or anyone else here (with an assumed couple of exceptions), who have shown complete predujice towards the 63e though this thread.

The same offer I extended to Squirts, I will also extend to you. Find me an example of me trying being unfairly biased against the 63e on this thread.

I know for a fact if you go a few pages back youll see me trying to clear up some of the misunderstandings around Karth and how he technically hasn't banned anyone.

So again, either go find me some examples of me being unfairly biased against the  63e, or I want an apology from both you and Squirts.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 09:19:52 am
Double post, but I have seen some concern over "You are CR, why are you caring about things outside FSE?"

No part of being CR prevents me from talking about in game issues. I have been part of this community for 4 years, I have 3000+ hours and I am more than qualified/able to discuss community issues. Being Community Representative may give me no power in game, or in teamspeak, or wherever the hell the community resides, but that does not take away my right to talk to and organize people I have known for years about issues in a game we have played for years. I'm not sure what you expected of the CR position, Im not sure if all you wanted from me is to sit here and whine to moderators about why you got muted for a dancing pepe, or for me to in turn tell you exactly why the mods decided to mute you for quoting a 10+ quote long pyramid. Will I still do that? Probably. But that's not the only thing I will do. I see absolutely no reason I shouldn't actively solve issues in the community. FSE and NW are intertwined and they share the same community, so it should be treated as such.

The TL;DR -

I'm not a mod (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfg0aBE19Y), so don't expect me to act exactly like a mod. My obligations are actually very few, and after my chats with Duuring, I was told I am mostly free to make of the position what I please (within reason, of course), and I am choosing to make it a more community focused role - this may entail I will *gulp* do stuff in game, involving the community.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 08, 2016, 04:47:45 pm
Round of applause for the mods who finally banned bill
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 08, 2016, 06:58:03 pm
Wouldn't it be worse for the 63e if another server popped up as opposed to allowing one recruitment message per map?

*Assuming the new server stays populated

#DoublePostChamp
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 08, 2016, 08:01:42 pm
Wouldn't it be worse for the 63e if another server popped up as opposed to allowing one recruitment message per map?

*Assuming the new server stays populated

#DoublePostChamp
You would think. Instead they will bring it on themselves
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 08:28:44 pm
Wouldn't it be worse for the 63e if another server popped up as opposed to allowing one recruitment message per map?

*Assuming the new server stays populated

#DoublePostChamp
You would think. Instead they will bring it on themselves

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They seem convinced the only solution is us getting a server. Idunno, ill talk later tonight with some peeps.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 08, 2016, 08:32:59 pm
( ´ ∀ ` )
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Karth on September 08, 2016, 09:28:23 pm
I think it's been made pretty clear by 3-4 reps that we are not changing the rules we have had on the server for over 2 years.  However if you would like some advice or wish to talk about anything else feel free, but in regards to specifically changing our server rules that's not happening (and no point in continuing to ask for that). 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 09:34:45 pm
I think it's been made pretty clear by 3-4 reps that we are not changing the rules we have had on the server for over 2 years.  However if you would like some advice or wish to talk about anything else feel free, but in regards to specifically changing our server rules that's not happening (and no point in continuing to ask for that).

Well, I can respect that (Dont really have a choice anyhow), but I have to ask:

Why?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 08, 2016, 09:35:02 pm
I think it's been made pretty clear by 3-4 reps that we are not changing the rules we have had on the server for over 2 years.  However if you would like some advice or wish to talk about anything else feel free, but in regards to specifically changing our server rules that's not happening (and no point in continuing to ask for that).
Now we see which side is not willing to compromise.

Now that we are past this topic let's talk about Karth's work as moderator.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 08, 2016, 09:38:54 pm
I think it's been made pretty clear by 3-4 reps that we are not changing the rules we have had on the server for over 2 years.  However if you would like some advice or wish to talk about anything else feel free, but in regards to specifically changing our server rules that's not happening (and no point in continuing to ask for that).
Now we see which side is not willing to compromise.

Now that we are past this topic let's talk about Karth's work as moderator.

As I said earlier, Karths position as a mod is not in question.

You really are gonna have to get me some examples of his misconduct if you want that to be pursued - as I have seen none.

The only thing I would say that Karth has done "wrong" is it seems there is a bias on moderating 63e threads. Those threads seem to be more heavily moderated than other threads, with more mutes/bans given out there more than anywhere else, but I cant really blame Karth for viewing his own threads or his members for really making use of the report button.

What I would like to pursue eventually is some changes in forum rules/policy that could lead to some unpopular bans/mutes.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Karth on September 08, 2016, 09:44:30 pm
There was no compromise to begin with. The server is privately owned and run by us, we have spent more than just time and money getting it to where it is.  Besides the fact that admining a one recruiting msg per map is a nightmare to moderate 24/7, the server has made its name in like I said over 2 years of hard work.  We have had numerous people publicize it elsewhere and play on it, we have numerous documentations on stuff pertaining to the server for our admins and head admins to use, etc... Not to mention I don't think people realize we have admins everyday that go on there for hours, whether it's 0 players or 100.  Our members also enjoy playing on siege, so voluntarily populate it at times, besides we always try to go on siege daily/ and some days we get 60 of our guys on.  This is just something that is embedded within our community.  You are free to do the same, I won't say it won't work, it will if you put the same amount of hours and dedication that we have with our server, but it's not a 'handmeout'


I think it's been made pretty clear by 3-4 reps that we are not changing the rules we have had on the server for over 2 years.  However if you would like some advice or wish to talk about anything else feel free, but in regards to specifically changing our server rules that's not happening (and no point in continuing to ask for that).
Now we see which side is not willing to compromise.

Now that we are past this topic let's talk about Karth's work as moderator.
My work as a moderator? what?...
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 08, 2016, 10:41:58 pm
Come on guys lets go boycott the server! I bet that will work just like it did on the 15ths humans vs bots! Now we just need gluk to organize it!




Well anyways thanks the response Karth
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on September 08, 2016, 11:49:25 pm
Come on guys lets go boycott the server! I bet that will work just like it did on the 15ths humans vs bots! Now we just need gluk to organize it!




Well anyways thanks the response Karth

yeah go on then, all 5 of you, go and boycott the server  8).
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 09, 2016, 12:09:36 am
Come on guys lets go boycott the server! I bet that will work just like it did on the 15ths humans vs bots! Now we just need gluk to organize it!




Well anyways thanks the response Karth

yeah go on then, all 5 of you, go and boycott the server  8).
it would be like 5 regiments that bring about 20 people to each lb. 5x20=100 people

Anyways it was a joke


Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Siwi on September 09, 2016, 01:19:35 am
I can setup leaderboards for the server like on groupfighting as well
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 09, 2016, 03:32:07 am
subbed
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 09, 2016, 07:43:47 am
subbed

you are

so incredibly late

now you are BANNED for being a nasty troll
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 09, 2016, 07:45:25 am
subbed

you are

so incredibly late

now you are BANNED for being a nasty troll
What a nasty troll
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 09, 2016, 10:52:52 pm
subbed

you are

so incredibly late

now you are BANNED for being a nasty troll

If anyone here is a nasty troll it's you for wanting the 63e to change the rules on their private server (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง

Spoiler
kappa
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 09, 2016, 10:55:18 pm
Snip.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 09, 2016, 11:05:02 pm
Snip.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 10, 2016, 01:05:53 am
Once again, keep this thread reasonably serious and without content that has just been removed. Thank you.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 10, 2016, 07:32:13 am
Did Shadow just snip Duuring? Damnnnnnnnn
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 10, 2016, 07:38:10 am
Did Shadow just snip Duuring? Damnnnnnnnn
no.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 10, 2016, 07:39:59 am
Did Shadow just snip Duuring? Damnnnnnnnn
no.
Aw. Rip
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Rutger Müller on September 10, 2016, 08:08:06 am
I cum from the land of the free where we have this thing called freedom of speech. Something you damn commie euros wouldn't know
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 10, 2016, 11:03:27 am
I cum from the land of the free where we have this thing called freedom of speech. Something you damn commie euros wouldn't know

Dayum Str8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIMVeO4RN4)

Btw 6 EST gonna be talking to some peeps about what should be done about our current predicament, probs gonna involve settin up this server. Just ask me from teamspeak info around that time.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 10, 2016, 01:33:38 pm
Are all NA regiments welcome to attend? Cos I'm the leader of the USAAJCR regiment
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 10, 2016, 01:50:17 pm
I really don't care who you are, as long as you plan to be constructive. Just wanna have a chat and see what peoples thoughts are pertaining to the community.

Just add me and I will pass out the teamspeak later. Might have a serious chat, might just ask sugar daddy Siwi to get his server rolling and we just throw a party there, might do both, who knows.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 10, 2016, 03:14:52 pm
nah I'm just memeing
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bauer16 on September 11, 2016, 02:45:04 am
I really don't care who you are, as long as you plan to be constructive. Just wanna have a chat and see what peoples thoughts are pertaining to the community.

Just add me and I will pass out the teamspeak later. Might have a serious chat, might just ask sugar daddy Siwi to get his server rolling and we just throw a party there, might do both, who knows.
+1
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Aurum on September 11, 2016, 02:57:03 am
Was anything agreed upon/talked about?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 11, 2016, 02:57:47 am
Was anything agreed upon/talked about?

We getting a server.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Aurum on September 11, 2016, 03:01:03 am
Was anything agreed upon/talked about?

We getting a server.

Nice
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: William on September 11, 2016, 04:10:19 am
Was anything agreed upon/talked about?
The 63e has allowed others to recruit on their server but in exchange everyone joined the 63e /s
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 11, 2016, 04:39:04 pm
Can we do a "no unban" policy? That we will be different from the 63e
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 11, 2016, 07:31:02 pm
Are all NA regiments welcome to attend? Cos I'm the leader of the USAAJCR regiment
if u kid feel like being up at 6 EST ok
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bauer16 on September 11, 2016, 08:54:18 pm
Was anything agreed upon/talked about?

We getting a server.

Nice
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 11, 2016, 09:04:56 pm
Make sure it has enough dedodated wam.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Toffee on September 11, 2016, 09:08:53 pm
it's an older meme sir but it checks out
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 12, 2016, 01:22:10 am
Make sure it has enough dedodated wam.

still trying to find the weccomended amount we need

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmaRNpd-WQ
[close]
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Peppers on September 12, 2016, 01:41:22 am
Ap0c thanks for being you fam.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 12, 2016, 05:25:20 am
Make sure it has enough dedodated wam.
You've received a warning from the meme police for
A3: Outdated meme
You have been warned; you will be monitored for more meme infractions.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 12, 2016, 06:31:21 pm
Let us attack religions!
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 12, 2016, 06:53:07 pm
Let us attack religions!

k

let me just get on that real quick
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 12, 2016, 06:57:18 pm
O wait Nevermind. This server is hosted in Germany right? I'm sure they don't want us talking bad about Islam

#RapeCoverup
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 12, 2016, 10:17:38 pm
#remove Karth
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: William on September 12, 2016, 10:19:28 pm
We just lost Peppers and Cheesy for no reason other than meming on a hateful religion and Peppers was barely even meming to begin with.

I continue to be disappointed with the clear censorship of conservatism and attack of free speech. Ap0c, bring back our memers.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 12, 2016, 10:22:17 pm
We just lost Peppers and Cheesy for no reason other than meming on a hateful religion and Peppers was barely even meming to begin with.
Which is hateful religion apart from Judaism?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 12, 2016, 10:45:54 pm
Its like I have become the single mother of a mentally deficient child who watched a few Paul Joseph Watson videos.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 12, 2016, 10:51:14 pm
The CRs job is actually being a mother. Apoc just confirmed
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 12, 2016, 10:53:48 pm
Yeah I'm a MILF, I won't deny that
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Aurum on September 12, 2016, 11:09:05 pm
we wuz forum moderators n shit
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Edwin on September 13, 2016, 01:53:53 am
You can't speak a word of ill about Islam on this forum.

That and insulting the Dutch. I got warned for calling someone a "Nethercuck". Who could possibly be enforcing this censorship, I wonder???


I can guess.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 13, 2016, 01:58:08 am
You can't speak a word of ill about Islam on this forum.

That and insulting the Dutch. I got warned for calling someone a "Nethercuck". Who could possibly be enforcing this censorship, I wonder???


I can guess.

How about you, peppers, and the 71st go make an alt right/right wing thread on the off topic board? Im sure you could get away with it alot more there.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Shine on September 13, 2016, 02:08:15 am
You can't speak a word of ill about Islam on this forum.

That and insulting the Dutch. I got warned for calling someone a "Nethercuck". Who could possibly be enforcing this censorship, I wonder???


I can guess.

How about you, peppers, and the 71st go make an alt right/right wing thread on the off topic board? Im sure you could get away with it alot more there.

psst

I'd bet you 6 gorillion shekels we couldn't
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 13, 2016, 02:14:51 am
You can't speak a word of ill about Islam on this forum.

That and insulting the Dutch. I got warned for calling someone a "Nethercuck". Who could possibly be enforcing this censorship, I wonder???


I can guess.

How about you, peppers, and the 71st go make an alt right/right wing thread on the off topic board? Im sure you could get away with it alot more there.

psst

I'd bet you 6 gorillion shekels we couldn't
He's got you there
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 13, 2016, 02:54:32 am
Fuck it, ill start it for you if you'll keep your memeing there.

Ill throw it down as my crowning achievement as CR if it actually works.


Boom done

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=33356.0

now you have a safe place to circle jerk eachother like they do on the world political thread
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 14, 2016, 01:11:01 am
So can the 71st thread be unlocked? I have some sick new screenshots to post!
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PJ on September 14, 2016, 01:22:09 am
this new rep sucks dick
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: MackCW on September 14, 2016, 01:35:36 am
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.

In all fairness I am not directing my previous reply to all who are opposed to the 63e or have brought up a concern they have about us. At the end of the day criticism, as long as it is constructive, is healthy and I welcome it. That being said certain individuals have posted here out of pure prejudice against the 63e, it is to those people that my previous reply was aimed. The people who have made genuinely valid points, I (and I'm sure other 63e officers) have read and thought about them seriously.

Hmmm, I did that before in July in response to your thread, after the 63e decided to make a version of an event that was being formed by other members of the community. In fact, Munj, I believe you were the OP.

(https://i.imgur.com/S7lOBwY.png)

and that got deleted.

This post in response to it (made by General Squirts), is still up at this moment:

(https://i.gyazo.com/47472c6809f468ed69cb188ed3f0b62e.png)

on this thread:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=32174.1269

Btw, I stopped reading after MunJ's post. I assume it was just a collection of stupid memes that totally undermined the point you guys were originally trying to make.

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 14, 2016, 01:37:40 am
So can the 71st thread be unlocked? I have some sick new screenshots to post!

I'll ask later: I think duuring wanted it locked for another week or two tho

Spoiler
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.

In all fairness I am not directing my previous reply to all who are opposed to the 63e or have brought up a concern they have about us. At the end of the day criticism, as long as it is constructive, is healthy and I welcome it. That being said certain individuals have posted here out of pure prejudice against the 63e, it is to those people that my previous reply was aimed. The people who have made genuinely valid points, I (and I'm sure other 63e officers) have read and thought about them seriously.

Hmmm, I did that before in July in response to your thread, after the 63e decided to make a version of an event that was being formed by other members of the community. In fact, Munj, I believe you were the OP.

(https://i.imgur.com/S7lOBwY.png)

and that got deleted.

This post in response to it (made by General Squirts), is still up at this moment:

(https://i.gyazo.com/47472c6809f468ed69cb188ed3f0b62e.png)

on this thread:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=32174.1269

Btw, I stopped reading after MunJ's post. I assume it was just a collection of stupid memes that totally undermined the point you guys were originally trying to make.


[close]

Basically, yeah
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 14, 2016, 02:15:41 am
*Pure evidence of 100% bias emerges*

Will action be taken this time doe?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 14, 2016, 02:19:06 am
*Pure evidence of 100% bias emerges*

Will action be taken this time doe?

To be fair, Mack's post that was deleted was on the event's thread.

Squirts post was on the NaCl thread (Though, I think I saw it on other threads as well, think it was on the 71st's thread but I think squirts later edited it out).

It isn't moderation bias, but it is a lack of willingness to compromise/negotiate with the community.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on September 14, 2016, 02:36:07 am
*Pure evidence of 100% bias emerges*

Will action be taken this time doe?

To be fair, Mack's post that was deleted was on the event's thread.

Squirts post was on the NaCl thread (Though, I think I saw it on other threads as well, think it was on the 71st's thread but I think squirts later edited it out).

It isn't moderation bias, but it is a lack of willingness to compromise/negotiate with the community.
No, I reported on the other threads like the 71st,3e, and 58e threads. (also the 63e one :)) )
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 14, 2016, 02:36:14 am
Spoiler
*Pure evidence of 100% bias emerges*

Will action be taken this time doe?

To be fair, Mack's post that was deleted was on the event's thread.

Squirts post was on the NaCl thread (Though, I think I saw it on other threads as well, think it was on the 71st's thread but I think squirts later edited it out).

It isn't moderation bias, but it is a lack of willingness to compromise/negotiate with the community.
[close]

Mack's post was deleted because he called out some BS.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 14, 2016, 03:42:54 am
Spoiler
*Pure evidence of 100% bias emerges*

Will action be taken this time doe?

To be fair, Mack's post that was deleted was on the event's thread.

Squirts post was on the NaCl thread (Though, I think I saw it on other threads as well, think it was on the 71st's thread but I think squirts later edited it out).

It isn't moderation bias, but it is a lack of willingness to compromise/negotiate with the community.
[close]

Mack's post was deleted because he called out some BS.

That by itself doesn't constitute bias necessarily.

Still was abit shocking.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 14, 2016, 04:39:07 am
Has anyone seen riddlez? I don't think he has posted since he said he was investigating the 63e
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 14, 2016, 04:43:14 am
Has anyone seen riddlez? I don't think he has posted since he said he was investigating the 63e
Last Active:
    September 04, 2016, 02:23:18 pm
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 14, 2016, 04:58:12 am
Has anyone seen riddlez? I don't think he has posted since he said he was investigating the 63e
Last Active:
    September 04, 2016, 02:23:18 pm
and look at the 5th post he made on the day. I think the 63 "took care of him" if you know what I mean
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 14, 2016, 05:04:47 am
"Guys I have information that will lead to the removal of Kar--"

-Riddlez, before he died in a weightlifting accident at his home
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 14, 2016, 06:12:26 am
"Guys I have information that will lead to the removal of Kar--"

-Riddlez, before he died in a weightlifting accident at his home

Probably beaten then shot in a "botched robbery" where his wallet, watch, and phone were left untouched in an upscale low-crime neighbourhood.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 14, 2016, 02:35:54 pm
"Guys I have information that will lead to the removal of Kar--"

-Riddlez, before he died in a weightlifting accident at his home

Probably beaten then shot in a "botched robbery" where his wallet, watch, and phone were left untouched in an upscale low-crime neighbourhood.
Or had a barbell crush his throat while lifting weights, with signs of foul play all over the body.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 14, 2016, 03:20:25 pm
He had some real life activities that make him unable to come online for aprox. a week. He informed me of this.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 14, 2016, 04:44:27 pm
He had some real life activities that make him unable to come online for aprox. a week. He informed me of this.
Fucking lies you murdered him. He had strong evidence of Karths abuses and now he is dead. Like Kennedy when he was fucking with federal reserve right to print money.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 14, 2016, 04:54:16 pm
moment of silence for our fallen brother

RIP Riddlez

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/avs/avatar_7722_1407438212.png)

5/11/13 - 9/4/2016

He died bravely fighting the 63e establishment

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 14, 2016, 06:15:56 pm
Spoiler
You guys are missing the connection here and mislabelling this. The reasons we stated are why we are slamming the 63e, not because of any special dislike. To tell you the truth I enjoyed being in the 63e, but the shit being pulled by the 63e is why I took that side. If solutions were proposed, debated, and then put in place, there wouldn't be any "hate" towards the 63e.
And you say it's irrational: it's completely rational to, as a community, announce displeasure towards the actions of a certain group.

In all fairness I am not directing my previous reply to all who are opposed to the 63e or have brought up a concern they have about us. At the end of the day criticism, as long as it is constructive, is healthy and I welcome it. That being said certain individuals have posted here out of pure prejudice against the 63e, it is to those people that my previous reply was aimed. The people who have made genuinely valid points, I (and I'm sure other 63e officers) have read and thought about them seriously.

Hmmm, I did that before in July in response to your thread, after the 63e decided to make a version of an event that was being formed by other members of the community. In fact, Munj, I believe you were the OP.

(https://i.imgur.com/S7lOBwY.png)

and that got deleted.

This post in response to it (made by General Squirts), is still up at this moment:

(https://i.gyazo.com/47472c6809f468ed69cb188ed3f0b62e.png)

on this thread:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=32174.1269

Btw, I stopped reading after MunJ's post. I assume it was just a collection of stupid memes that totally undermined the point you guys were originally trying to make.
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Did something happen to this post...that 2nd image doesn't seem right...
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 14, 2016, 06:22:43 pm
Two different sections of the forum, if you also look your original post is in the old NA community thread as well above, I was just memeing on an off topic board. Yours however was on a completely different section of the forum.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 14, 2016, 06:52:36 pm
Two different sections of the forum, if you also look your original post is in the old NA community thread as well above, I was just memeing on an off topic board. Yours however was on a completely different section of the forum.
"i was just memeing hehe xd"   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 14, 2016, 06:56:34 pm
Two different sections of the forum, if you also look your original post is in the old NA community thread as well above, I was just memeing on an off topic board. Yours however was on a completely different section of the forum.

Well, you did kinda post your image basically everywhere. You removed a few later, but we saw them.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 14, 2016, 07:02:34 pm
Two different sections of the forum, if you also look your original post is in the old NA community thread as well above, I was just memeing on an off topic board. Yours however was on a completely different section of the forum.

Well, you did kinda post your image basically everywhere. You removed a few later, but we saw them.

Yeah, that's when I got warned for spamming I believe. RIP.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 14, 2016, 07:08:36 pm
Two different sections of the forum, if you also look your original post is in the old NA community thread as well above, I was just memeing on an off topic board. Yours however was on a completely different section of the forum.

Well, you did kinda post your image basically everywhere. You removed a few later, but we saw them.

Yeah, that's when I got warned for spamming I believe. RIP.
yea their 10 warning points really showed you1111
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on September 14, 2016, 07:09:49 pm
Thank you for agreeing!
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Edwin on September 14, 2016, 07:15:37 pm
Two different sections of the forum, if you also look your original post is in the old NA community thread as well above, I was just memeing on an off topic board. Yours however was on a completely different section of the forum.

Well, you did kinda post your image basically everywhere. You removed a few later, but we saw them.

Yeah, that's when I got warned for spamming I believe. RIP.
yea their 10 warning points really showed you1111

Karth takes care of his own
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 14, 2016, 07:17:48 pm
I got banned for constructive analysis and you got 10 for spam. Great
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 14, 2016, 07:34:09 pm
I got banned for constructive analysis and you got 10 for spam. Great
FSE not biased confirmed.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Bravescot on September 14, 2016, 10:07:53 pm
I got banned for constructive analysis and you got 10 for spam. Great
FSE not biased confirmed.
Just a Squirts gets muted xD
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AntonioTheWorstAtMelee on September 15, 2016, 10:36:53 am
Although this discussion has petered out somewhat, I would like to offer my thoughts (not condensed for anyone's convenience):

For those of you who recognize me you probably know that I was a part of both the 9y and the 3e. For those few of who are still around, you may recognize me as a member of the 12th and the majority of its reincarnations. For those of you who are no longer with us you might recognize me as a member of the 53e (RIP NEC). And for most of you I am a nobody and you've never pressed E in your life. I have led extensively in almost every regiment that I have been a part of (excluding the FKI and 63e [surprise I was in this regiment as well!]). I have also trolled around extensively on the forums and taken part in banter from the EPI to Church's glorious FG. Although Tico, Grimsight and the other respected leaders I have worked with may have certain perceptions about me as a community member, I know they respect the heavy involvement I have had in the NW Community-whether or not I have 6,000 posts or 10 tournament trophies under my belt.

All of this is not said for the benefit of my ego as, if you know me personally, I have never headed a solid (my 9y tribute regiments, though impressive, faded with the collective interest in NW) regiment. And I apparently was only ever good at kicking because I had shit internet for years and crutched on Turkish kicking. I say all of this because I know there are some people willing to go through this block, and acknowledge the weight I carry with my opinions on this matter.

The NW Community is not what it used to be. That in and of itself is not an inherently good or bad thing. I, personally, see NW, and the community, as a shell of its former self. It would unfair of me to ignore the elephant in the room: Warband and this module have been around longer than many of us thought possible both in the NW community, and in the other mods that have graced this game. Obviously, this affects NW as both players, regiments, and visions of the game have come and gone over the years. But I do not attribute the issues in NW today solely to a release date many years ago. From my observations, Warband has maintained it's usual population over the years. NW is only one part of the greater Warband collection, but it receives the same attention and treatment in sales as Native. The game has the players, but they aren't playing the game.

I will forego the discussion on the single player experience and the massive disparity between online and offline Warband players for the sake of this post.

Napoleonic Wars is just as good as it has always been as a game. FSE has maintained, while the Community has polished the aesthetic of it to change things up for the long-term players. And as the numbers show, people are not afraid to jump into this game because of perceived obsolescence. Napoleonic Wars is struggling because of the social dynamic that made me, and many others, play, rage quit, return, and love this game has been eroded. Say what you will about the NW of a few years ago. For all of its flaws and problems within the community, regiments thrived in and among of themselves, with and for each other's enjoyment. We all picked on the FKI, and Millander double ranked us to crap. The 3e trumped Milly and posted its win in bold in the TS channel. And at the end of the day we all showed up in the same events, and trashed each other in chat. And adding to the banter, Walko and the 4te strutting around with Bond and the 89th spazzing out. My timelines are not perfect, but I experienced all of this (both the big and the not so small) in the NW that I came to love. The reality of NW is that we no longer have the same faces to organize the community as we once had. Arguably, there are just as many bodies, but no faces with them. How did we get to this point? Time is one factor. But people are another. Specifically the people who run the regiments that make up this community. And to "bandwagon", as someone will most likely lash out, with the sentiment in this thread: the 63e has not helped.

Karth, though his actions and character are up to the court of public opinion (if there even is one in this divided community), worked to operate and maintain the 63e Siege server for years. In another time, I would thank Karth for housing 200 players. Today, I question his desire to strengthen this community. The discussion on whether or not Karth should change his server rules, or rather does the community have the authority to enforce a rule change, should have ended as quickly as it started: Karth's private server is his to dictate. The matter at hand is not Karth's right to administrate as he see fits, it is whether or not Karth's administration is helping the community. And when I say community, I do not mean the 63e with and in themselves. The Community is the cobbling of regiments (the 63e included) and players (both pub and private[?]) that come together to play this game. But it seems we are having issues cobbling up.

The fact of the matter is the 63e's monopoly (yes this is the proper use of the word please keep childish attempts at discourse away) on the the public (and often newcomer) population stifles any attempts for the NW Community to grow and thrive. My argument in short: Regiments cannot recruit, regiments cannot grow, community stagnates. The 63e Siege server, whether through merit or by virtue of being last one alive, attracts the most attention from the public. If your counter to my argument is, "Then the "Community" should form their own server against the 63e's" (which is the obvious sentiment revealed within this thread) then you are admitting to putting yourselves before the NW Community. Not only that, you are expressly challenging the community to a fight it cannot handle. If we had the excess of players that all of us have wanted, then the Community could survive a de facto civil war and there would be no need for serious discussion. If your response so far is, "that is not our problem" then you (I am addressing the 63e) nor anybody else has any reason being here. And guess what: you can totally do that and if that's what you want, what can anyone do about it. For Karth, and all those within the 63e that solely want to see how far they can go this is fine practice. If I was fixated on this vision of NW, I would be doing what Karth has, and continues to do. If Karth wants to do him, for him, and his gaming community, then so be it. But do not allow him to feign otherwise nor hold any positions within this community.

Now I assume if you are partaking in this thread, you care enough about the community to defend against any and all criticism levied against your respective parties. If this is not the case with the 63e, then they should not be here and should continue doing them. If this is the case, there is no discussion to be had. For the sake of this post, I assume there is some desire to normalize the tensions within this community and bring it back to some status quo that we can all agree on until this game passes and we all jump to another. If this is the case, if Karth truly wishes to defend himself on this community forum, AND put effort in to restore it to some something we can all respect, then let him keep his position as a core member (whether you like it or not) and contributor to this community.

Although I detest this saying immensely, it does at times take two to argue. And, if we follow that same logic, it takes two to find a solution. And if we take that logic in a tangent, not one party is solely responsible for our situation now. Before I continue, I do not legitimize any of Squirts' comments within this thread and I do not want one word of my post to resemble some type of support for him and his childish behavior (trust me, I was like him when I was 12 and started Warband- and I have grown).

The non-63e side of the discussion is at fault as awell, whether or not to the same degree as Karth and the 63e are is up to nobody. Regiment quality has gone down and I have seen in one week some of the weakest regiments both in size, and quality I have ever seen. Yes, the 63e situation may have affected it, but weak leadership among the regiments of NW has played a large role. The inter-regimental drama that has been created over the years has split regiments up and decentralized skill to the point of nonexistence. In this regard, the community as a whole can do better in both ensuring the encouragement, creation, and growth of regiments that truly care. Whether or not this is possible is an entirely different discussion.

On a more macro level, the organization of events, and inter-regimental cooperation has degraded. In this area, I applaud AP0C for attempting to bring the community together in some way. If we want to improve NW, we all need to take a hard look at ourselves and find the effort to put into this game. And I am writing this post for the sole purpose of putting forth the effort I want to see reflected in this community.

I do not have any authority over anyone, but I hope if you have read this post, you understand the choices we have. There is no more discussion we can have on this matter. Banter can go on, but meaningful discourse eventually comes to end and requires action. Whether or not we want to put in the effort, is for all of us to ask ourselves. If we all would prefer (or allow) the current state of NW to continue, then so be it. The 63e can do them. And everyone else can keep doing what they are doing.

We all need to change. Karth and the 63e need to be a part of that change, if they don't that is fine. But they represent no other community than their own. If you find that phrasing harsh, it is the truth. In addition to the 63e, the rest of the community needs to ask themselves if they want to put in the effort to make the game what it can be before its time truly comes.

Karth, we all just want to have fun. Push for the community, your effort could bring it back.

Community, we have gone through a lot, and its up to us now to decide if we want to or not. I have made my mind.

And if at the end of the day, NW has stayed the same, we can look forward to Bannerlord, WoR, and BCoF. And that is fine too.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

*Edited for grammar, PM me or discuss here if you wish. I hope to have pushed us to a decision, for the sake of this game that we all love. Also, I acknowledge I am not a 100% unbiased member in this community. But, in this matter, I pride myself for taking both sides and presenting the decisions we have before us. Pettiness has weakened this game, I want its chance to come back to be as pure as I can humanly make it.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 15, 2016, 02:16:20 pm
I got banned for constructive analysis and you got 10 for spam. Great
FSE not biased confirmed.
Just a Squirts gets muted xD
Yeah cuz of anti-muslim thread, thingy retards ...

Also Riddlez named me designated Regent so give me powers, thank you Duuring.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Shadow on September 15, 2016, 02:49:08 pm
Pics or didn't happen.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 15, 2016, 05:52:17 pm
Spoiler
Although this discussion has petered out somewhat, I would like to offer my thoughts (not condensed for anyone's convenience):

For those of you who recognize me you probably know that I was a part of both the 9y and the 3e. For those few of who are still around, you may recognize me as a member of the 12th and the majority of its reincarnations. For those of you who are no longer with us you might recognize me as a member of the 53e (RIP NEC). And for most of you I am a nobody and you've never pressed E in your life. I have led extensively in almost every regiment that I have been a part of (excluding the FKI and 63e [surprise I was in this regiment as well!]). I have also trolled around extensively on the forums and taken part in banter from the EPI to Church's glorious FG. Although Tico, Grimsight and the other respected leaders I have worked with may have certain perceptions about me as a community member, I know they respect the heavy involvement I have had in the NW Community-whether or not I have 6,000 posts or 10 tournament trophies under my belt.

All of this is not said for the benefit of my ego as, if you know me personally, I have never headed a solid (my 9y tribute regiments, though impressive, faded with the collective interest in NW) regiment. And I apparently was only ever good at kicking because I had shit internet for years and crutched on Turkish kicking. I say all of this because I know there are some people willing to go through this block, and acknowledge the weight I carry with my opinions on this matter.

The NW Community is not what it used to be. That in and of itself is not an inherently good or bad thing. I, personally, see NW, and the community, as a shell of its former self. It would unfair of me to ignore the elephant in the room: Warband and this module have been around longer than many of us thought possible both in the NW community, and in the other mods that have graced this game. Obviously, this affects NW as both players, regiments, and visions of the game have come and gone over the years. But I do not attribute the issues in NW today solely to a release date many years ago. From my observations, Warband has maintained it's usual population over the years. NW is only one part of the greater Warband collection, but it receives the same attention and treatment in sales as Native. The game has the players, but they aren't playing the game.

I will forego the discussion on the single player experience and the massive disparity between online and offline Warband players for the sake of this post.

Napoleonic Wars is just as good as it has always been as a game. FSE has maintained, while the Community has polished the aesthetic of it to change things up for the long-term players. And as the numbers show, people are not afraid to jump into this game because of perceived obsolescence. Napoleonic Wars is struggling because of the social dynamic that made me, and many others, play, rage quit, return, and love this game has been eroded. Say what you will about the NW of a few years ago. For all of its flaws and problems within the community, regiments thrived in and among of themselves, with and for each other's enjoyment. We all picked on the FKI, and Millander double ranked us to crap. The 3e trumped Milly and posted its win in bold in the TS channel. And at the end of the day we all showed up in the same events, and trashed each other in chat. And adding to the banter, Walko and the 4te strutting around with Bond and the 89th spazzing out. My timelines are not perfect, but I experienced all of this (both the big and the not so small) in the NW that I came to love. The reality of NW is that we no longer have the same faces to organize the community as we once had. Arguably, there are just as many bodies, but no faces with them. How did we get to this point? Time is one factor. But people are another. Specifically the people who run the regiments that make up this community. And to "bandwagon", as someone will most likely lash out, with the sentiment in this thread: the 63e has not helped.

Karth, though his actions and character are up to the court of public opinion (if there even is one in this divided community), worked to operate and maintain the 63e Siege server for years. In another time, I would thank Karth for housing 200 players. Today, I question his desire to strengthen this community. The discussion on whether or not Karth should change his server rules, or rather does the community have the authority to enforce a rule change, should have ended as quickly as it started: Karth's private server is his to dictate. The matter at hand is not Karth's right to administrate as he see fits, it is whether or not Karth's administration is helping the community. And when I say community, I do not mean the 63e with and in themselves. The Community is the cobbling of regiments (the 63e included) and players (both pub and private[?]) that come together to play this game. But it seems we are having issues cobbling up.

The fact of the matter is the 63e's monopoly (yes this is the proper use of the word please keep childish attempts at discourse away) on the the public (and often newcomer) population stifles any attempts for the NW Community to grow and thrive. My argument in short: Regiments cannot recruit, regiments cannot grow, community stagnates. The 63e Siege server, whether through merit or by virtue of being last one alive, attracts the most attention from the public. If your counter to my argument is, "Then the "Community" should form their own server against the 63e's" (which is the obvious sentiment revealed within this thread) then you are admitting to putting yourselves before the NW Community. Not only that, you are expressly challenging the community to a fight it cannot handle. If we had the excess of players that all of us have wanted, then the Community could survive a de facto civil war and there would be no need for serious discussion. If your response so far is, "that is not our problem" then you (I am addressing the 63e) nor anybody else has any reason being here. And guess what: you can totally do that and if that's what you want, what can anyone do about it. For Karth, and all those within the 63e that solely want to see how far they can go this is fine practice. If I was fixated on this vision of NW, I would be doing what Karth has, and continues to do. If Karth wants to do him, for him, and his gaming community, then so be it. But do not allow him to feign otherwise nor hold any positions within this community.

Now I assume if you are partaking in this thread, you care enough about the community to defend against any and all criticism levied against your respective parties. If this is not the case with the 63e, then they should not be here and should continue doing them. If this is the case, there is no discussion to be had. For the sake of this post, I assume there is some desire to normalize the tensions within this community and bring it back to some status quo that we can all agree on until this game passes and we all jump to another. If this is the case, if Karth truly wishes to defend himself on this community forum, AND put effort in to restore it to some something we can all respect, then let him keep his position as a core member (whether you like it or not) and contributor to this community.

Although I detest this saying immensely, it does at times take two to argue. And, if we follow that same logic, it takes two to find a solution. And if we take that logic in a tangent, not one party is solely responsible for our situation now. Before I continue, I do not legitimize any of Squirts' comments within this thread and I do not want one word of my post to resemble some type of support for him and his childish behavior (trust me, I was like him when I was 12 and started Warband- and I have grown).

The non-63e side of the discussion is at fault as awell, whether or not to the same degree as Karth and the 63e are is up to nobody. Regiment quality has gone down and I have seen in one week some of the weakest regiments both in size, and quality I have ever seen. Yes, the 63e situation may have affected it, but weak leadership among the regiments of NW has played a large role. The inter-regimental drama that has been created over the years has split regiments up and decentralized skill to the point of nonexistence. In this regard, the community as a whole can do better in both ensuring the encouragement, creation, and growth of regiments that truly care. Whether or not this is possible is an entirely different discussion.

On a more macro level, the organization of events, and inter-regimental cooperation has degraded. In this area, I applaud AP0C for attempting to bring the community together in some way. If we want to improve NW, we all need to take a hard look at ourselves and find the effort to put into this game. And I am writing this post for the sole purpose of putting forth the effort I want to see reflected in this community.

I do not have any authority over anyone, but I hope if you have read this post, you understand the choices we have. There is no more discussion we can have on this matter. Banter can go on, but meaningful discourse eventually comes to end and requires action. Whether or not we want to put in the effort, is for all of us to ask ourselves. If we all would prefer (or allow) the current state of NW to continue, then so be it. The 63e can do them. And everyone else can keep doing what they are doing.

We all need to change. Karth and the 63e need to be a part of that change, if they don't that is fine. But they represent no other community than their own. If you find that phrasing harsh, it is the truth. In addition to the 63e, the rest of the community needs to ask themselves if they want to put in the effort to make the game what it can be before its time truly comes.

Karth, we all just want to have fun. Push for the community, your effort could bring it back.

Community, we have gone through a lot, and its up to us now to decide if we want to or not. I have made my mind.

And if at the end of the day, NW has stayed the same, we can look forward to Bannerlord, WoR, and BCoF. And that is fine too.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

*Edited for grammar, PM me or discuss here if you wish. I hope to have pushed us to a decision, for the sake of this game that we all love. Also, I acknowledge I am not a 100% unbiased member in this community. But, in this matter, I pride myself for taking both sides and presenting the decisions we have before us. Pettiness has weakened this game, I want its chance to come back to be as pure as I can humanly make it.
[close]
Pro tip: Don't write long essays. People on FSE don't read them. Instead post a meme
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Shadow on September 15, 2016, 06:11:47 pm
Spoiler
Although this discussion has petered out somewhat, I would like to offer my thoughts (not condensed for anyone's convenience):

For those of you who recognize me you probably know that I was a part of both the 9y and the 3e. For those few of who are still around, you may recognize me as a member of the 12th and the majority of its reincarnations. For those of you who are no longer with us you might recognize me as a member of the 53e (RIP NEC). And for most of you I am a nobody and you've never pressed E in your life. I have led extensively in almost every regiment that I have been a part of (excluding the FKI and 63e [surprise I was in this regiment as well!]). I have also trolled around extensively on the forums and taken part in banter from the EPI to Church's glorious FG. Although Tico, Grimsight and the other respected leaders I have worked with may have certain perceptions about me as a community member, I know they respect the heavy involvement I have had in the NW Community-whether or not I have 6,000 posts or 10 tournament trophies under my belt.

All of this is not said for the benefit of my ego as, if you know me personally, I have never headed a solid (my 9y tribute regiments, though impressive, faded with the collective interest in NW) regiment. And I apparently was only ever good at kicking because I had shit internet for years and crutched on Turkish kicking. I say all of this because I know there are some people willing to go through this block, and acknowledge the weight I carry with my opinions on this matter.

The NW Community is not what it used to be. That in and of itself is not an inherently good or bad thing. I, personally, see NW, and the community, as a shell of its former self. It would unfair of me to ignore the elephant in the room: Warband and this module have been around longer than many of us thought possible both in the NW community, and in the other mods that have graced this game. Obviously, this affects NW as both players, regiments, and visions of the game have come and gone over the years. But I do not attribute the issues in NW today solely to a release date many years ago. From my observations, Warband has maintained it's usual population over the years. NW is only one part of the greater Warband collection, but it receives the same attention and treatment in sales as Native. The game has the players, but they aren't playing the game.

I will forego the discussion on the single player experience and the massive disparity between online and offline Warband players for the sake of this post.

Napoleonic Wars is just as good as it has always been as a game. FSE has maintained, while the Community has polished the aesthetic of it to change things up for the long-term players. And as the numbers show, people are not afraid to jump into this game because of perceived obsolescence. Napoleonic Wars is struggling because of the social dynamic that made me, and many others, play, rage quit, return, and love this game has been eroded. Say what you will about the NW of a few years ago. For all of its flaws and problems within the community, regiments thrived in and among of themselves, with and for each other's enjoyment. We all picked on the FKI, and Millander double ranked us to crap. The 3e trumped Milly and posted its win in bold in the TS channel. And at the end of the day we all showed up in the same events, and trashed each other in chat. And adding to the banter, Walko and the 4te strutting around with Bond and the 89th spazzing out. My timelines are not perfect, but I experienced all of this (both the big and the not so small) in the NW that I came to love. The reality of NW is that we no longer have the same faces to organize the community as we once had. Arguably, there are just as many bodies, but no faces with them. How did we get to this point? Time is one factor. But people are another. Specifically the people who run the regiments that make up this community. And to "bandwagon", as someone will most likely lash out, with the sentiment in this thread: the 63e has not helped.

Karth, though his actions and character are up to the court of public opinion (if there even is one in this divided community), worked to operate and maintain the 63e Siege server for years. In another time, I would thank Karth for housing 200 players. Today, I question his desire to strengthen this community. The discussion on whether or not Karth should change his server rules, or rather does the community have the authority to enforce a rule change, should have ended as quickly as it started: Karth's private server is his to dictate. The matter at hand is not Karth's right to administrate as he see fits, it is whether or not Karth's administration is helping the community. And when I say community, I do not mean the 63e with and in themselves. The Community is the cobbling of regiments (the 63e included) and players (both pub and private[?]) that come together to play this game. But it seems we are having issues cobbling up.

The fact of the matter is the 63e's monopoly (yes this is the proper use of the word please keep childish attempts at discourse away) on the the public (and often newcomer) population stifles any attempts for the NW Community to grow and thrive. My argument in short: Regiments cannot recruit, regiments cannot grow, community stagnates. The 63e Siege server, whether through merit or by virtue of being last one alive, attracts the most attention from the public. If your counter to my argument is, "Then the "Community" should form their own server against the 63e's" (which is the obvious sentiment revealed within this thread) then you are admitting to putting yourselves before the NW Community. Not only that, you are expressly challenging the community to a fight it cannot handle. If we had the excess of players that all of us have wanted, then the Community could survive a de facto civil war and there would be no need for serious discussion. If your response so far is, "that is not our problem" then you (I am addressing the 63e) nor anybody else has any reason being here. And guess what: you can totally do that and if that's what you want, what can anyone do about it. For Karth, and all those within the 63e that solely want to see how far they can go this is fine practice. If I was fixated on this vision of NW, I would be doing what Karth has, and continues to do. If Karth wants to do him, for him, and his gaming community, then so be it. But do not allow him to feign otherwise nor hold any positions within this community.

Now I assume if you are partaking in this thread, you care enough about the community to defend against any and all criticism levied against your respective parties. If this is not the case with the 63e, then they should not be here and should continue doing them. If this is the case, there is no discussion to be had. For the sake of this post, I assume there is some desire to normalize the tensions within this community and bring it back to some status quo that we can all agree on until this game passes and we all jump to another. If this is the case, if Karth truly wishes to defend himself on this community forum, AND put effort in to restore it to some something we can all respect, then let him keep his position as a core member (whether you like it or not) and contributor to this community.

Although I detest this saying immensely, it does at times take two to argue. And, if we follow that same logic, it takes two to find a solution. And if we take that logic in a tangent, not one party is solely responsible for our situation now. Before I continue, I do not legitimize any of Squirts' comments within this thread and I do not want one word of my post to resemble some type of support for him and his childish behavior (trust me, I was like him when I was 12 and started Warband- and I have grown).

The non-63e side of the discussion is at fault as awell, whether or not to the same degree as Karth and the 63e are is up to nobody. Regiment quality has gone down and I have seen in one week some of the weakest regiments both in size, and quality I have ever seen. Yes, the 63e situation may have affected it, but weak leadership among the regiments of NW has played a large role. The inter-regimental drama that has been created over the years has split regiments up and decentralized skill to the point of nonexistence. In this regard, the community as a whole can do better in both ensuring the encouragement, creation, and growth of regiments that truly care. Whether or not this is possible is an entirely different discussion.

On a more macro level, the organization of events, and inter-regimental cooperation has degraded. In this area, I applaud AP0C for attempting to bring the community together in some way. If we want to improve NW, we all need to take a hard look at ourselves and find the effort to put into this game. And I am writing this post for the sole purpose of putting forth the effort I want to see reflected in this community.

I do not have any authority over anyone, but I hope if you have read this post, you understand the choices we have. There is no more discussion we can have on this matter. Banter can go on, but meaningful discourse eventually comes to end and requires action. Whether or not we want to put in the effort, is for all of us to ask ourselves. If we all would prefer (or allow) the current state of NW to continue, then so be it. The 63e can do them. And everyone else can keep doing what they are doing.

We all need to change. Karth and the 63e need to be a part of that change, if they don't that is fine. But they represent no other community than their own. If you find that phrasing harsh, it is the truth. In addition to the 63e, the rest of the community needs to ask themselves if they want to put in the effort to make the game what it can be before its time truly comes.

Karth, we all just want to have fun. Push for the community, your effort could bring it back.

Community, we have gone through a lot, and its up to us now to decide if we want to or not. I have made my mind.

And if at the end of the day, NW has stayed the same, we can look forward to Bannerlord, WoR, and BCoF. And that is fine too.

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*Edited for grammar, PM me or discuss here if you wish. I hope to have pushed us to a decision, for the sake of this game that we all love. Also, I acknowledge I am not a 100% unbiased member in this community. But, in this matter, I pride myself for taking both sides and presenting the decisions we have before us. Pettiness has weakened this game, I want its chance to come back to be as pure as I can humanly make it.
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Pro tip: Don't write long essays. People on FSE don't read them. Instead post a meme

It was actually very well written. Some do, BabyJ. ;)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 15, 2016, 06:25:09 pm
Well written Antonio
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 15, 2016, 08:03:38 pm
Well written Antonio
I bet you didn't even read it hahahah xD
I read it don't really get the point his mostly rambling around, could have made it much shorter.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 15, 2016, 08:24:54 pm
Well written Antonio
I bet you didn't even read it hahahah xD
I read it don't really get the point his mostly rambling around, could have made it much shorter.

I get what he is saying and I completely agree. I have tried to make similar points earlier in this thread.

Though, he truly did write an essay, he had an intro paragraph introducing himself and all.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on September 15, 2016, 09:30:36 pm
can I have a tl;dr
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AsianP on September 15, 2016, 10:33:09 pm
Well written Antonio
I bet you didn't even read it hahahah xD
I read it don't really get the point his mostly rambling around, could have made it much shorter.
Actually I did take the time to read the entire thing
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AntonioTheWorstAtMelee on September 16, 2016, 12:21:48 am
Well written Antonio
I bet you didn't even read it hahahah xD
I read it don't really get the point his mostly rambling around, could have made it much shorter.

I get what he is saying and I completely agree. I have tried to make similar points earlier in this thread.

Though, he truly did write an essay, he had an intro paragraph introducing himself and all.

As I said, I wrote that for no one's convenience and it's only meant for those who would put the effort into this discussion. It's everything these 24 pages have been about, and if you've been here to troll or to spectate apathetically, they don't matter to you.

In the post I mentioned my thoughts on a Community server v. 63e Server being more than NW can handle. Eventually I noticed the new server that posted up in the forum 3 days ago (still a WIP). Even if the server begins to challenge the 63e, we will all be left with less than full servers that offer no fun to anybody and may just push people away. And with the greater theme of my post, nothing will be improved in the community. I hope Karth comes on here and takes the time to read this post. If he doesn't, or sends a lackey that has already demonstrated the character of his administration within this post, we should all just move on.

If that is the case, I hope the NA Community can come together in some fashion to build this server up. And while we are it, why not talk about other issues we have with each other, the game, and other regiments.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Xethos on September 16, 2016, 12:26:49 am
Pro tip: Don't write long essays. People on FSE don't read them. Instead post a meme

The whole damn point was that if people quit vomiting memes all the time, somebody would eventually be able to broker solutions.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 16, 2016, 12:29:35 am
Pro tip: Don't write long essays. People on FSE don't read them. Instead post a meme

The whole damn point was that if people quit vomiting memes all the time, somebody would eventually be able to broker solutions.
you can explain a point without writing a full essay.

btw antonio wanna write my english essay for me?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AntonioTheWorstAtMelee on September 16, 2016, 12:33:45 am
Pro tip: Don't write long essays. People on FSE don't read them. Instead post a meme

The whole damn point was that if people quit vomiting memes all the time, somebody would eventually be able to broker solutions.

I guess if you consider my post as not vomiting memes, then yes please make more posts like mine. It is kind of ridiculous at how ineffective this community has been at coming up with solutions. I feel that the egos of certain community members has blocked any kind of group work that is normal to most people here (when they are on the outside and people don't see Col. or Gen. tags in front of their names).

EDIT for BabyJesus' Post:

I can explain a point without writing a full essay. This begs a question, why do we have essays then anyway? If you honestly ask yourself this question, then may I please refer you to the hundreds of years of academics that has churned out thousands upon thousands of essays. Read the essay- even effective skimming (a literary skill) can get you the answer.

Also, I don't need to write for English anymore. Only interesting stuff from now on ;)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 16, 2016, 10:41:43 am
Since technically my job is supposed to center around the forums, gonna keep some other threads coming.

Here is my most recent creation:

North American NW News!:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=33413.0
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Riddlez on September 16, 2016, 04:01:03 pm
So I came back yesterday from a field exercise and thought to check if anyone has posted here. A spectacular 24 pages mostly about the 63e. I  will dig into the matter this weekend and hope to put it to rest this weekend as well. The matter seems suprisingly simple.

I will keep you posted. I will PM, steam-pm and get on TS of the parties involved. Expect me.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 16, 2016, 04:26:37 pm
After the 63e tortured riddlez for a week straight, they decided it was time to let him go
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: McPero on September 16, 2016, 08:00:52 pm
So I came back yesterday from a field exercise and thought to check if anyone has posted here. A spectacular 24 pages mostly about the 63e. I  will dig into the matter this weekend and hope to put it to rest this weekend as well. The matter seems suprisingly simple.

I will keep you posted. I will PM, steam-pm and get on TS of the parties involved. Expect me.
name me regent
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Riddlez on September 17, 2016, 01:23:23 pm
Now that was an interesting read.

And a suprisingly stupid conversation. Really people, you guys need to grow up. All of you. I commend Ap0c for his tries to lead this into a meaningful discussion but you guys absolutely ruined it.

To the 'anti-63e' camp:
Grow up. Yes there are some factors that, granted, are a little bit shady if you want to make the community a better one, which makes me understand why the 63e isa disliked, but really. You can just sit down with some members of the 63e in their teamspeak or your own, to discuss things and let your grievances be heard. It would be wise for the 63e to listen to them and even work on some of them, because fi you would've gone about this maturely, and the 63e would only shitpost and ban people, you could maturely make a statement about what happened, which could then ruin the 63e's credibility.

to the 63e members
Grow up. It is mildly amusing how you claim to be open toi 'mature conversation' in teamspeak, while most of you just shitpost and complain about the people who don't like you. Perhaps it is time for some self-reflection. You do not help your own position by having your members behave like this on the forums. PLease work on it.


I can be found on the 63e teamspeak server this afternoon and evening, and I will be speaking to 63e members as much as I can.


UPDATE:

I have spoken to one of the 63e admins. I will publish the results of this conversation later, but allow me to make one thing very clear:
The 63e is not intentionally trying to harm the community. It is not their intent to steal new recruits, steal people from events or badly influence smaller regiments.
They do not want this fight. Neither do I and the rest of the community. Steps have been taken to move forward, and I expect results to be noticable iun a matter of days.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: junedragon on September 17, 2016, 07:08:03 pm
Now that was an interesting read.

And a suprisingly stupid conversation. Really people, you guys need to grow up.

TL;DR of the post = everyone is immature and needs to grow up + the 63e doesnt have a grand conspiracy to destroy the community for the hell of it.

Not sure what else was expected to come of this.

Haven't seen anything overtly malicious from anyone but lots of immaturity and a few simple misunderstandings.

A whole lot of shit over nothing really.

Edit = de-meme-ified
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Duuring on September 17, 2016, 11:00:01 pm
Keep the 'banter' and 'memes' in the Mess Hall.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 26, 2016, 04:42:59 pm
Spoiler
Now that was an interesting read.

And a suprisingly stupid conversation. Really people, you guys need to grow up. All of you. I commend Ap0c for his tries to lead this into a meaningful discussion but you guys absolutely ruined it.

To the 'anti-63e' camp:
Grow up. Yes there are some factors that, granted, are a little bit shady if you want to make the community a better one, which makes me understand why the 63e isa disliked, but really. You can just sit down with some members of the 63e in their teamspeak or your own, to discuss things and let your grievances be heard. It would be wise for the 63e to listen to them and even work on some of them, because fi you would've gone about this maturely, and the 63e would only shitpost and ban people, you could maturely make a statement about what happened, which could then ruin the 63e's credibility.

to the 63e members
Grow up. It is mildly amusing how you claim to be open toi 'mature conversation' in teamspeak, while most of you just shitpost and complain about the people who don't like you. Perhaps it is time for some self-reflection. You do not help your own position by having your members behave like this on the forums. PLease work on it.


I can be found on the 63e teamspeak server this afternoon and evening, and I will be speaking to 63e members as much as I can.


UPDATE:

I have spoken to one of the 63e admins. I will publish the results of this conversation later, but allow me to make one thing very clear:
The 63e is not intentionally trying to harm the community. It is not their intent to steal new recruits, steal people from events or badly influence smaller regiments.
They do not want this fight. Neither do I and the rest of the community. Steps have been taken to move forward, and I expect results to be noticable iun a matter of days.
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its been awhile. Haven't seen any changes.

And what's goin on with that public siege server?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 26, 2016, 04:59:24 pm
It's coming, I've just been busy with midterms and other things

I'll have alot more time on my hands after tommorrow
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 26, 2016, 05:07:42 pm
Maybe unlock 71st thread, Duuring would rather ignore my Pms then help out so I thought I would ask here.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on September 26, 2016, 05:09:30 pm
Maybe unlock 71st thread, Duuring would rather ignore my Pms then help out so I thought I would ask here.
not the best way to ask...
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 26, 2016, 05:09:45 pm
Will you be good boys and post your edgey memes on the alt right thread I made?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on September 26, 2016, 05:12:48 pm
Will you be good boys and post your edgey memes on the alt right thread I made?
Yes Mr. Lyps3
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 26, 2016, 05:13:16 pm
K then I'll ask about it
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Riddlez on September 26, 2016, 07:55:37 pm
The best way to achieve success for your personal cases such as the 71st thread, is to communicate this to the CRs directly (Via Steam or PM). This is what I have been doing on a fairly regular basis and works the fastest.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Gi on September 26, 2016, 08:01:12 pm
Please don't unlock the 71st thread, it hurt my feelings
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 26, 2016, 08:46:45 pm
K ur threads back
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 26, 2016, 09:43:05 pm
Maybe unlock 71st thread, Duuring would rather ignore my Pms then help out so I thought I would ask here.
not the best way to ask...
I tried asking many other ways my boy
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 26, 2016, 09:46:07 pm
Maybe unlock 71st thread, Duuring would rather ignore my Pms then help out so I thought I would ask here.
not the best way to ask...
I tried asking many other ways my boy

Maybe you could, you know, just ask me sooner

In a polite manner

You silly meme
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: cheeseypants on September 26, 2016, 10:34:13 pm
Spoiler
Maybe unlock 71st thread, Duuring would rather ignore my Pms then help out so I thought I would ask here.
not the best way to ask...
I tried asking many other ways my boy

Maybe you could, you know, just ask me sooner

In a polite manner

You silly meme
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I feels
memes
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Forgotfulking on September 28, 2016, 06:32:34 am
Hail Apoc
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: antslimey on October 02, 2016, 10:09:50 am
Hey I'm kinda late on my thoughts with the 63e and all the hate going towards there way but I'd think I have something you all need to hear. New regiments this late into the commuinty are HARD TO FORM. I myself made the AEF with a fresh start and built up from nothing. My biggest issue was recuirting of course. But not because of the 63e. It is simply the matter of one understanding how to recuirt this late into the game and two committing the endless hours and late nighters it takes to recuirt. It took me about three months into my regiment to get to 15-19 people everynight. Once I had this base of people I could grab these members to hop on AEF server and play commander battle. Hope and pray pubs come on and server population hits 15-25. Then information about the AEF would be given in admin chat and directed towards pubs. At this rate with a 20 man server I could get 5 people to join. So while it's not easy it doable.



The issue though is I only hav access to a small base of random people who decided to open NW that night. The other also very effective and desperate tactic I had to use in the starting of my regiment was to add about 40 people on steam from dead steam groups and ask people to come back. I'd get like 5-10 out of 40 people.

If I kept putting all this effort in which was like 6-7 hours a night after I got home from school I was able to get a regiment going. But because of all these hours and this work I put in I know have stopped recuirting leading my regiment to stagnate attendance wise. But tbh give me 12-16 guys a night without putting effort into recuirting into a dead commuinty anyday :).
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: antslimey on October 02, 2016, 10:17:11 am
Just wanna clear things up on old post. Myself I find the 63e annoying but they got to where they are by hard work. Myself I think yes they do hold the commuinty back but comon people. We're fucking Americans grow a backbone and put the time in to start your own regiment and then look at your own achievements and yourself and not those other twats and what they have. So I hear a lot of hate for the 63e but frankly I still laugh at thier cadets melee(I'm sure karth does to) but in the end spend the time and work hard. Then boom there's your commuinty.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on October 02, 2016, 10:46:04 am
Just wanna clear things up on old post. Myself I find the 63e annoying but they got to where they are by hard work. Myself I think yes they do hold the commuinty back but comon people. We're fucking Americans grow a backbone and put the time in to start your own regiment and then look at your own achievements and yourself and not those other twats and what they have. So I hear a lot of hate for the 63e but frankly I still laugh at thier cadets melee(I'm sure karth does to) but in the end spend the time and work hard. Then boom there's your commuinty.
you bring 5 whole members to every event. don't act like you are a huge regiment and did it all by yourself.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on October 02, 2016, 05:04:19 pm
Two words, Merc regiment.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Aurum on October 02, 2016, 05:22:38 pm
rip
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on October 02, 2016, 05:32:03 pm
Two words, Merc regiment.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 02, 2016, 06:38:10 pm
-1 and 18
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 03, 2016, 02:01:51 am
Server is up, *NA_Assault

got some cool ass scripts

might start hosting pub events there as well
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on October 03, 2016, 04:01:15 am
Server is up, *NA_Assault

got some cool ass scripts

might start hosting pub events there as well
out of curiosity what are these scripts?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: antslimey on October 03, 2016, 04:44:20 am
Just wanna clear things up on old post. Myself I find the 63e annoying but they got to where they are by hard work. Myself I think yes they do hold the commuinty back but comon people. We're fucking Americans grow a backbone and put the time in to start your own regiment and then look at your own achievements and yourself and not those other twats and what they have. So I hear a lot of hate for the 63e but frankly I still laugh at thier cadets melee(I'm sure karth does to) but in the end spend the time and work hard. Then boom there's your commuinty.
you bring 5 whole members to every event. don't act like you are a huge regiment and did it all by yourself.
well vortex I'd like to tell you you guys cancled a 1v1 with the AEF because you only had 5 guys on. And I'd also point out for TNWL we had 20 people show up. And on aveage we bring 12-15. And also almost every member in my regiment has been recuirts by me. Sadly I haven't had a good officer staff other than applo so most responsibility fall to me.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: antslimey on October 03, 2016, 04:46:30 am
Two words, Merc regiment.
AEF do use mercs yes. Mainly because it's fun for me to get a bunch of diffrent people together I don't normally play with and fight regiemnts. If you ever think the AEF by itself is bad then look at TNWL where we lost to the 32e 4-6 when they have lost to the 1er 6-4 and beat the 58e and 45e as with about the same scores.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 03, 2016, 05:25:36 am
Server is up, *NA_Assault

got some cool ass scripts

might start hosting pub events there as well
out of curiosity what are these scripts?

so far, swivel cannons were turned into Gatling guns and Vodka bottles were turned into molotovs

more cool stuff to come
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on October 03, 2016, 05:52:23 am
neat.  seen the molotovs the other day on another server.  don't remember which one though.

there are some pretty neat scripts out there, and there is a lot of potential should someone spend the time to explore what can be done. 
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on October 03, 2016, 06:07:30 am
Just wanna clear things up on old post. Myself I find the 63e annoying but they got to where they are by hard work. Myself I think yes they do hold the commuinty back but comon people. We're fucking Americans grow a backbone and put the time in to start your own regiment and then look at your own achievements and yourself and not those other twats and what they have. So I hear a lot of hate for the 63e but frankly I still laugh at thier cadets melee(I'm sure karth does to) but in the end spend the time and work hard. Then boom there's your commuinty.
you bring 5 whole members to every event. don't act like you are a huge regiment and did it all by yourself.
well vortex I'd like to tell you you guys cancled a 1v1 with the AEF because you only had 5 guys on. And I'd also point out for TNWL we had 20 people show up. And on aveage we bring 12-15. And also almost every member in my regiment has been recuirts by me. Sadly I haven't had a good officer staff other than applo so most responsibility fall to me.
asian told you we had 5 guys on so he didnt have to say we don't want to have a shit 10v10 lb when we bring 20 people. also why the fuck do you consistently spell recruits or recruiting or recruit like recuirt, shit dont make sense fam
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on October 03, 2016, 07:08:00 am
Two words, Merc regiment.
AEF do use mercs yes. Mainly because it's fun for me to get a bunch of diffrent people together I don't normally play with and fight regiemnts. If you ever think the AEF by itself is bad then look at TNWL where we lost to the 32e 4-6 when they have lost to the 1er 6-4 and beat the 58e and 45e as with about the same scores.

I'm not saying your regiment is bad, but your argument is terrible. You can't base the skill of your regiment off of how close you lost to a regiment that lost to other regiments lol. What have your own scores been (without mercs) against 1er, 71st, 45e, 58e. For the most part I'm guessing the average is 2-8.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 03, 2016, 08:31:22 am
i remember going to an AEF lb with pretty much the whole 71st. i think it was against teh 58e or 1er (aef lost 6-4)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on October 03, 2016, 11:14:57 am
i remember going to an AEF lb with pretty much the whole 71st. i think it was against teh 58e or 1er (aef lost 6-4)
pretty sure it was the 1er and why we call the aef a merc regiment now
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on October 03, 2016, 03:24:49 pm
Server is up, *NA_Assault

got some cool ass scripts

might start hosting pub events there as well
out of curiosity what are these scripts?

NVM question was answered
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on October 03, 2016, 03:26:48 pm
The new "Merc regiment" is now the 32e. For at least the 1er to go to.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on October 03, 2016, 03:41:59 pm
The new "Merc regiment" is now the 32e. For at least the 1er to go to.
Heard that also ^^
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on October 03, 2016, 05:33:58 pm
The new "Merc regiment" is now the 32e. For at least the 1er to go to.
there are 6 of us that actually joined the 32e, and only 6. Me, Asian, Godfreid, PJ, and Goku.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on October 03, 2016, 06:04:01 pm
The new "Merc regiment" is now the 32e. For at least the 1er to go to.
there are 6 of us that actually joined the 32e, and only 6. Me, Asian, Godfreid, PJ, and Goku.
"Only 6"
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on October 03, 2016, 06:11:44 pm
The new "Merc regiment" is now the 32e. For at least the 1er to go to.
there are 6 of us that actually joined the 32e, and only 6. Me, Asian, Godfreid, PJ, and Goku.
"joined"=double regging. So I guess since other regiments no longer want to face you guys you decide to join a regiment not as good so you can have more events?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on October 03, 2016, 06:16:27 pm
The new "Merc regiment" is now the 32e. For at least the 1er to go to.
there are 6 of us that actually joined the 32e, and only 6. Me, Asian, Godfreid, PJ, and Goku.
"joined"=double regging. So I guess since other regiments no longer want to face you guys you decide to join a regiment not as good so you can have more events?
yes
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: RussianFury on October 03, 2016, 06:22:14 pm
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on October 03, 2016, 06:27:35 pm
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Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 03, 2016, 06:27:51 pm
So is that how 32e won TNWL?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Vortecks on October 03, 2016, 06:58:14 pm
So is that how 32e won TNWL?
we didnt play for tnwl. (super didnt want us to anyway)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: antslimey on October 03, 2016, 11:56:14 pm
Just wanna clear things up on old post. Myself I find the 63e annoying but they got to where they are by hard work. Myself I think yes they do hold the commuinty back but comon people. We're fucking Americans grow a backbone and put the time in to start your own regiment and then look at your own achievements and yourself and not those other twats and what they have. So I hear a lot of hate for the 63e but frankly I still laugh at thier cadets melee(I'm sure karth does to) but in the end spend the time and work hard. Then boom there's your commuinty.
you bring 5 whole members to every event. don't act like you are a huge regiment and did it all by yourself.
well vortex I'd like to tell you you guys cancled a 1v1 with the AEF because you only had 5 guys on. And I'd also point out for TNWL we had 20 people show up. And on aveage we bring 12-15. And also almost every member in my regiment has been recuirts by me. Sadly I haven't had a good officer staff other than applo so most responsibility fall to me.
asian told you we had 5 guys on so he didnt have to say we don't want to have a shit 10v10 lb when we bring 20 people. also why the fuck do you consistently spell recruits or recruiting or recruit like recuirt, shit dont make sense fam
Ahh ok so I was lied to that's your argument sounds good. Guess it seems like we don't have 5 people huh. And if you wanna care about spelling take it up with a English teacher.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 04, 2016, 12:01:54 am
This is why NA is better than EU
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Munj on October 04, 2016, 12:59:07 am
This is why NA is better than EU

And here I was thinking that Britain made the best Period Dramas  ::)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 04, 2016, 01:19:22 am
This is why NA is better than EU

And here I was thinking that Britain made the best Period Dramas  ::)
reported. Too soon
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: MackCW on October 05, 2016, 02:00:03 pm
Server is up, *NA_Assault

got some cool ass scripts

might start hosting pub events there as well

That actually sounds interesting. Gonna check it out
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on October 05, 2016, 04:32:10 pm
Vortex getting walked over like a filthy cockroach
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 05, 2016, 04:56:00 pm
Apoc>mack
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on October 05, 2016, 05:10:24 pm
Apoc>mack

Apoc x Mack = Map0k
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 08, 2016, 11:08:40 pm
Server is up, *NA_Assault

got some cool ass scripts

might start hosting pub events there as well
hows the server goin?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 09, 2016, 10:35:26 am
Not good, yall arent hoppin on it.

Probably will have to get pub events going to get the ball rolling at all.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 09, 2016, 04:29:09 pm
Not good, yall arent hoppin on it.

Probably will have to get pub events going to get the ball rolling at all.
i tried to go on it yesterday but I couldn't even find the server. My mount and blade has been acting up like that recently. Like some servers just never show up
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on October 09, 2016, 06:20:50 pm
Not good, yall arent hoppin on it.

Probably will have to get pub events going to get the ball rolling at all.
i tried to go on it yesterday but I couldn't even find the server. My mount and blade has been acting up like that recently. Like some servers just never show up

Note the server name has been changed.  Was talking to APOC about getting a pub event open for it as well as just a reg event for the server.  Would it be better to invite regiments for the reg event?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Aurum on October 09, 2016, 08:40:50 pm
Not good, yall arent hoppin on it.

Probably will have to get pub events going to get the ball rolling at all.
i tried to go on it yesterday but I couldn't even find the server. My mount and blade has been acting up like that recently. Like some servers just never show up

Note the server name has been changed.  Was talking to APOC about getting a pub event open for it as well as just a reg event for the server.  Would it be better to invite regiments for the reg event?

Whats the new name? I was searching for it myself earlier
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: PapaBean on October 09, 2016, 09:00:32 pm
NA_Assault_Event
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: MackCW on October 09, 2016, 11:42:25 pm
Apoc>mack

Truth
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on October 10, 2016, 12:17:47 am
NA_Assault_Event
memes
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on October 12, 2016, 04:45:37 pm
For those of you who have specific days you'd like to have 1v1s scheduled, I am logging all of that information that was never updated since the thread was left unattended for a while. Please sign up on here for those looking to put their name out there! Forum Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=33686.0;last_msg=1455023

 I will also be trying to keep current 1v1s/scheduled 1v1s up on the thread, as well as the results of that 1v1. So I will actually try to keep a official type of log of 1v1s that have happened in the community. For example, the 63e had a 1v1 with the AEF and I will be putting that recent victory up on there alongside others that happened recently that I can fish for on the forums.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 27, 2016, 08:12:12 am
Guess a new election isn't happening

Well then

All hail your god emperor, AP0C

King of NW, Conqueror of Tammo, Bringer of the Law, Maker of the news, Winner of the Skins, Captain of the 58e, Top tier of the list, Savior of the 71st thread, Memer of the Dreams

My reign shall be eternal, and we shall bring glory to NA

JK im gonna go play Dark Souls now

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on October 27, 2016, 11:04:53 am
Guess a new election isn't happening

Well then

All hail your god emperor, AP0C

King of NW, Conqueror of Tammo, Bringer of the Law, Maker of the news, Winner of the Skins, Captain of the 58e, Top tier of the list, Savior of the 71st thread, Memer of the Dreams

My reign shall be eternal, and we shall bring glory to NA

JK im gonna go play Dark Souls now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 27, 2016, 02:39:42 pm
I would rather it be Mack with unlimited power :(
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on October 27, 2016, 03:03:18 pm

Well then

All hail your god emperor, AP0C

Jester of NW, Foot Polisher of Tammo, Destroyer of the Law, When I feel likt it I'll do it maker of the news, Winner of the foreskins, Captain of the 58blee, Top queer of the list, Savior of the 71st dead, Memer of the Dreams (kept this cause this is true)

My reign shall be eternal, and we shall bring gloryholes to NA

Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 27, 2016, 08:05:27 pm
You dare insult your Emperor? I sentence you to death!

Godfreid, take him away
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on October 27, 2016, 08:07:10 pm
You dare insult your Emperor? I sentence you to death!

Godfreid, take him away
Godfried is your police?
Can I be your lawyer?
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 27, 2016, 08:50:26 pm
Sure. Go show Squirts the error of his ways

Sue him or something
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on October 27, 2016, 09:05:55 pm
Spoiler

Well then

All hail your god emperor, AP0C

Jester of NW, Foot Polisher of Tammo, Destroyer of the Law, When I feel likt it I'll do it maker of the news, Winner of the foreskins, Captain of the 58blee, Top queer of the list, Savior of the 71st dead, Memer of the Dreams (kept this cause this is true)

My reign shall be eternal, and we shall bring gloryholes to NA

[close]
Squirts, you are hereby brought to notice. This edited message aforementioned is libelous and slanderous, and this serves as a warning notice. If you make another edit like this that slanders my clients reputation, I will sue you through the FSE courts for libel. This is not in your best interests. Please refrain from making comments such as this in the future.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: BabyJesus on October 27, 2016, 09:11:37 pm
Spoiler

Well then

All hail your god emperor, AP0C

Jester of NW, Foot Polisher of Tammo, Destroyer of the Law, When I feel likt it I'll do it maker of the news, Winner of the foreskins, Captain of the 58blee, Top queer of the list, Savior of the 71st dead, Memer of the Dreams (kept this cause this is true)

My reign shall be eternal, and we shall bring gloryholes to NA

[close]
Squirts, you are hereby brought to notice. This edited message aforementioned is libelous and slanderous, and this serves as a warning notice. If you make another edit like this that slanders my clients reputation, I will sue you through the FSE courts for libel. This is not in your best interests. Please refrain from making comments such as this in the future.
be careful goin after squirts. I hear Karth is his defense attorney and he has connections within the FSE courts
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: GeneralSquirts on October 27, 2016, 09:13:52 pm
My defense is that I still let Mr. Ap0c keep his title of Memer of the Dreams, which he rightfully claims. He has lead the community into greener pastures. But please, don't do this to me. I'm still young, I haven't even took out a mortgage yet. I've only had the opportunity to report BabyJ only 49 times. This will ruin me for the rest of my life. So I beg to the 7th Meme Court District to please show mercy on me for I have done nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Theodin on October 27, 2016, 09:28:07 pm
My defense is that I still let Mr. Ap0c keep his title of Memer of the Dreams, which he rightfully claims. He has lead the community into greener pastures. But please, don't do this to me. I'm still young, I haven't even took out a mortgage yet. I've only had the opportunity to report BabyJ only 49 times. This will ruin me for the rest of my life. So I beg to the 7th Meme Court District to please show mercy on me for I have done nothing wrong.
I'm not a judge, i'm a lawyer. Beg the district Judge, Saltyy.
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on October 27, 2016, 09:30:58 pm
My defense is that I still let Mr. Ap0c keep his title of Memer of the Dreams, which he rightfully claims. He has lead the community into greener pastures. But please, don't do this to me. I'm still young, I haven't even took out a mortgage yet. I've only had the opportunity to report BabyJ only 49 times. This will ruin me for the rest of my life. So I beg to the 7th Meme Court District to please show mercy on me for I have done nothing wrong.
I'm not a judge, i'm a lawyer. Beg the district Judge, Saltyy.
No not dj saltyy!
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: Thunderstormer on October 27, 2016, 09:35:35 pm
guess i can make a new thread for people to apply in a bit if durring cant.(probably really busy)
Title: Re: Community Rep Thread (September-October)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on October 27, 2016, 09:42:11 pm
guess i can make a new thread for people to apply in a bit if durring cant.(probably really busy)

I guess no king rules forever