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Title: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 09:29:09 pm
So, I was posting that I wanted a laptop for something new. But someone in a local PC store reminded me that I wouldn't be able to run big nice graphical games.

So I was asking what would be the strongest build you guys suggest? I got a budget of 3000 euros.

I have set my eyes on  the Graphical card EVGA GTX 1080, and a quad core processor with an intel core i7-6700k

I do not know what to put more in. So suggestions are welcome. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 04, 2016, 10:03:01 pm
I just bought a PC for (almost) the same money.
This is what I got:

Intel Core i7-6900K
EVGA Nvidia GTX 1080
MSI X99A GODLIKE Gaming, Intel X99
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400
1TB Samsung 850 EVO
Blu-Ray Burner LG BH16NS55
1000W - BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro P11
ASUS ROG Xonar Phoebus Solo
Prolimatech Megahalems BeQuiet! PWM
Windows 10 Pro, 64 Bit, DE

I had another 512GB SSD at home and a 2TB Normal Sata drive, so I also plugged those in.
I also bought a pretty good PC case, lots of small fans and quite silent.
The system runs well and generally I get a much better frame rate in 4k than with my SLI 980TI setup. (Cause SLI support sucks for most games...)
I should have gotten the Intel Core i7-6950X and overclocked it, but meh, I went with the slightly cheaper option.

I suggest that you get a newer CPU than the one you chose.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 10:10:33 pm
Personally for myself as I do alot of editing for work etc. I would want to go the full way for a 5930k.

To be honest if you have the money you could go for a 6800k but a 6700 is more than enough for just gaming.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:17:04 pm
Alright thanks for the comments.

What is SLI actually what does it do? I'm not experienced with these terms, I apology. But I'd like to know it before I buy something. xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on August 04, 2016, 10:17:33 pm
Just build Rod of Ages first.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 10:22:28 pm
SLI has 3 different types. Essentially SLI is the programming behind having 2 or more graphics cards working in the same PC. You need to have a new version of the SLI bridges which are expensive in order to run a 1080 in SLI

Tbh 2 1080's in 1 build is beyond overkill currently.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:40:08 pm
so if i just buy a 1080 GTX card without SLI. would it run good graphics too? with good fps etc
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sleek on August 04, 2016, 10:46:12 pm
Yes, it's basically the best card on the market right now
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:48:57 pm
Nice. I'll just go with that one. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MaxLam on August 04, 2016, 10:57:34 pm
But someone in a local PC store reminded me that I wouldn't be able to run big nice graphical games.
You can run everything with a 3000 euros laptop.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:58:05 pm
Also Total War games? Like maxed out etc no lag.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 11:03:15 pm
Like I told you on steam you don't need a 3k PC to run Total wars. My GTX 980 ran everything at max on all of them and still got like 80 FPS. Except for Rome 2 and Attila of course. Shit games that they are.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 11:05:12 pm
Would the GTX 1080 have good FPS on Rome And Attila? Cause I really want a monster PC as these next gen games are coming out in 2017.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 04, 2016, 11:07:00 pm
Would the GTX 1080 have good FPS on Rome And Attila? Cause I really want a monster PC as these next gen games are coming out in 2017.
It's the nuttiest graphics card out there right now (besides the Titan)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 11:09:03 pm
Yea its basicallly pointless asking. you wont get a better card.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 11:09:39 pm
Alright then.

A friend suggested me this set-up. I think it looks alright?

Socket 2011 6900k i7
x99 Motherboard
GTX 1080 EVGA - No SLI
ASUS ROG - Rampage V Edition 10
ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 8G Strix
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 04, 2016, 11:57:13 pm
Makes no sense. Why do you have 2 Gracards in there?
SLI support for most games sucks, it is not worth going for SLI. A single 1080 will be good enough anyway.
Besides you would need 2 times the same card, same clock speed etc. otherwise it won't work.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 05, 2016, 12:08:16 am
Yeah my bad copied something wrong. Ill update it tommorow.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 05, 2016, 02:34:43 am
I'd be sure to get an 80+ Gold or Platinum Power Supply to provide some reliable power to those high end components. Also be sure to have a very nice cooling system, including multiple fans on the case to help circulate the hot air. It's paramount that something like that doesn't overheat, lol

Are you going to be going with 144hz monitor(s) or no?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 05, 2016, 04:06:16 am
Tbh, the only reason to buy a 1080 right now is if you want to do 4k gaming.
Otherwise the 980ti, which is currently only 420 euros (750 earlier this year...) is more than good enough.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on August 05, 2016, 11:19:24 pm
Intel or AMD?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 05, 2016, 11:33:30 pm
I have an AMD atm. Never again!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 05, 2016, 11:35:26 pm
I'd be sure to get an 80+ Gold or Platinum Power Supply to provide some reliable power to those high end components. Also be sure to have a very nice cooling system, including multiple fans on the case to help circulate the hot air. It's paramount that something like that doesn't overheat, lol

Are you going to be going with 144hz monitor(s) or no?

Hmm, can you list some powerful coolers? I have a TV as monitor now. Ppl advised me to buy a normal monitor pc screen but thats something for later.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 05, 2016, 11:57:42 pm
Anything from corsairs  closed water cooling line is good. I have the old H80i, this is the new version.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-hydro-series-h80i-v2-all-in-one-extreme-performance-cpu-cooler-with-120mm-radiator-2x-120mm-
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 06, 2016, 12:12:09 am
Or just buy a good silent fan cooler...

And TV monitors are usualy the worst. Their refresh times are shit. They arent made for realtime.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 06, 2016, 12:19:02 am
I mean if he is going to pay 3 grand for a PC skipping on cooling is pointless. Not to mention if you replace the stock fans on a radiator like I did the thing ramped up is still quieter than my GPU fans.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on August 06, 2016, 01:56:44 am
I have an AMD atm. Never again!

Why?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 06, 2016, 03:54:11 am
So just buy a good Aircooled solution. There are a bunch of problems with Watercooled systems that you don't have with aircooled ones.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 06, 2016, 04:14:41 am
Theres nothing wrong with a closed watercooled loop. You never need to change the water and the H80i costs around the same as a good air cooled solution but with up to 30-40% better performance not to mention a better overclock if he chose.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 06, 2016, 08:37:11 am
I have an AMD atm. Never again!

Why?
i do not know how to describe it in English but the graphics look like there is a bit of dust on it. Also i cant even play warband with max graphics without a good fps. Etc. Lags a lot.

And thanks for giving a bit of info about these coolers. Corsairs look good. Is that one you posted a quiet one? :)

What do you mean with refresh times on tv monitors?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 06, 2016, 02:16:03 pm
Sorry, I meant response time, not refresh time.

Basicially a TV monitor is not made for playing games etc. TV monitors response times are usually pretty bad.
Response time is the time the monitor needs to display a change. So if you for example, move your mouse from one corner of the screen to another, the TV monitor might display that movement much later than you actually did it. It might still be a 120hz monitor, and be able to display a high frame rate, but that will not help you. Basically, go for a monitor with very fast response times and if possible, also with either a 4k monitor, or a 144hz monitor.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 06, 2016, 03:05:50 pm
So that is why I'm bad at melee. :O It feels indeed slower. I always play into windowed mode but when i go full game its like 5 secs delayed. Windowed mode is also crap.

Thanks for telling me this. Cause This also was an answer I needed. xD I'll defo get a monitor now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 06, 2016, 05:20:54 pm
Buying a 144hz Monitor was probably the best choice I made for upgrading my setup a few years back. Dis what I got and its alot cheaper now than what I payed.

http://www.ebuyer.com/436992-asus-vg248qe-24-led-lcd-hdmi-monitor-vg248qe?mkwid=sgNuFxE3X_dc&pcrid=51482416139&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKEAjwlZa9BRCw7cS66eTxlCkSJAC-ddmwC6OXgfOk_WSxE1an7Iz_POO3afb0_kJvD7UKi6vHehoCBT_w_wcB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 06, 2016, 05:25:57 pm
Yeah. I'm going to buy one. I need one. But after my PC, costs all very much. Been working for months now to have this money.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Riddlez on August 06, 2016, 10:34:07 pm
Olafson speficially here to call shit on your setup =D

Anyhow, I'll take it.

I forgot all the details but the main shit is this:

AMD FX-8350 as CPU
Radeon R9 280X as GPU
Some decent MSI motherboard I forgot the model of.
Crucial Ballistix 8GB DDR3-1600 for RAM
1000 GB HDD Sata III for HDD

And a decent Samsung screen I forgot the model of.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 07, 2016, 02:07:12 am
Wat?

You know I spend an incredible amount of money this year on hardware. It is is ridiculous. And also the reason why I have only 80 euro on my bank account at the moment. Lel.

Like begining of the year I thought that I should upgrade my (now old) system and I bought two 980TIs for 700 and 750...
Then one of my 4K monitors broke, so I bought another one for 500. I then also decided to update my RAM to 64 GIG and bought another set of ram for 120. Then I decided to buy a 1080 for 750 and scrap my two 980TI cards. Then part of my motherboard started malfunctioning and because I can, I decided to buy a whole new setup for 3.1K Plan was to put my (old) SSD and HDD in there and also use the 1080. I also wanted to put in my old 64gig of ram (I bought 32 with the PC) to upgrade my system a bit, but then realised that I was stupid and forgot that my old ram is DDR3 and the new is DDR4. (I actually spend a good 5 minutes wondering why the fuck the ram wouldn't fit in the slot... :P) and I decided to buy another 32gb of ddr4 ram for 120, so that I have at least 64GB.

So yeah, long story short, I was super stupid spend way to much money on PC parts and now I am broke. Hurrah.


Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on August 07, 2016, 02:09:57 am
Rip BCoF development
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 07, 2016, 02:15:55 am
Jeez
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on February 22, 2017, 11:15:53 am
Well, I was still saving some money and I came to the conclusion of this setup. If something could be made better please do make sure to give any suggestions or ideas.


Intel Core i7-6800K Boxed
   
1   MSI X99A SLI Plus   
1   MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB   
1   WD Red Pro WD4002FFWX, 4TB   
1   Scythe Mugen 5   
1   Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2400C16   
1   BitFenix Whisper BWG550M   
1   Crucial MX300 2,5" 525GB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Drake on February 22, 2017, 05:39:43 pm
buy a i7-7700k instead of 6800 and get a GTX 1080 sli with the money spared.
Look for an BenQ or an Asus 144hz as monitor.
http://www.materiel.net/ecran-pc/benq-zowie-xl2411-135125.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on February 22, 2017, 05:52:06 pm
Well the socket from the 7700 isn't able to connect with the x99 motherboard I just learned so rip.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 22, 2017, 08:04:18 pm
CPU: i5-6600k

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Motherboard:
MSI Z170A PC Mate

Memory:
EVGA DDR4 (16GB)

Storage: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Video Card:
NVIDIA GTX 950

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M

Operating System:
Windows 10

Picture of my rig with everything installed
(https://i.imgur.com/Kya8Wkx.jpg)
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 22, 2017, 10:26:12 pm
I am simple man, I plug power into potato and cord from potato into monitor and boom, I am pro pc gamer ready to crush noobs
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Siwi on February 22, 2017, 11:34:32 pm
CPU: i5-6600k

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Motherboard:
MSI Z170A PC Mate

Memory:
EVGA DDR4 (16GB)

Storage: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Video Card:
NVIDIA GTX 950

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M

Operating System:
Windows 10

Picture of my rig with everything installed
(https://i.imgur.com/Kya8Wkx.jpg)
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Stainless steel fridge, Squirts is a king among us peasants

Surprised your maid isnt in the background polishing the granite
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 22, 2017, 11:43:22 pm
CPU: i5-6600k

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Motherboard:
MSI Z170A PC Mate

Memory:
EVGA DDR4 (16GB)

Storage: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Video Card:
NVIDIA GTX 950

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M

Operating System:
Windows 10

Picture of my rig with everything installed
(https://i.imgur.com/Kya8Wkx.jpg)
[close]
Stainless steel fridge, Squirts is a king among us peasants

Surprised your maid isnt in the background polishing the granite

lol siwi, i always enjoy your humor much love.

also yes I have a chubby Jamaican maid who gives sloppy head.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 02, 2017, 06:10:23 am
Core Components

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600Mhz
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" SATA III
SSD: Corsair Force 60GB 2.5" SATAII
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM ST2000DM001
HDD: Toshiba MK2035GSS 200GB 2.5" SATA I 4200RPM
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 550M 550W 80+ Bronze Semi-Modular ATX
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit + Windows 8.1 Professional 64-Bit

Peripherals

Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" 1920x1080 Monitor
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2053BW 20"
Monitor: Acer P206HL 20" LCD Monitor
Keyboard: Logitech G110
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser (Piece of shit, don't buy Steel Series mice; look up scroll wheel issue)
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Headphones: KOSS PRODJ100 Over-Ear Audiophile Headphones
Microphone: Samson GTrack USB Condenser Mic

You can see my system in full here: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D)  It has older components because I bought the CPU, motherboard and RAM last July from a friend when he was upgrading to Skylake. Chugs along fine, though. Replaced the well-aged HD 7850 with the amazing MSI RX 480 Gaming X and I can't hear the thing anymore. The fan doesn't run until it hits 65 Celsius.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 02, 2017, 06:57:24 pm
Why the two mini SSDs and 3 HDDs? Did you get a good deal on them or from a friend or something? You should probably get another 8GB of RAM at some point too, but it's not a bad rig. Was it cheap?

Also lol @Squirts with his 750W PSU for a GTX 950
Plenty of room to upgrade though
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 02, 2017, 07:44:04 pm
Rip all ur intel builds.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Siwi on March 02, 2017, 11:44:43 pm
Core Components

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600Mhz
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" SATA III
SSD: Corsair Force 60GB 2.5" SATAII
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM ST2000DM001
HDD: Toshiba MK2035GSS 200GB 2.5" SATA I 4200RPM
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 550M 550W 80+ Bronze Semi-Modular ATX
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit + Windows 8.1 Professional 64-Bit

Peripherals

Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" 1920x1080 Monitor
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2053BW 20"
Monitor: Acer P206HL 20" LCD Monitor
Keyboard: Logitech G110
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser (Piece of shit, don't buy Steel Series mice; look up scroll wheel issue)
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Headphones: KOSS PRODJ100 Over-Ear Audiophile Headphones
Microphone: Samson GTrack USB Condenser Mic

You can see my system in full here: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D)  It has older components because I bought the CPU, motherboard and RAM last July from a friend when he was upgrading to Skylake. Chugs along fine, though. Replaced the well-aged HD 7850 with the amazing MSI RX 480 Gaming X and I can't hear the thing anymore. The fan doesn't run until it hits 65 Celsius.

I have the same Asus monitor, its pretty swanky, I also have the same SteelSeries mouse and the scrolling thing bugs the crap out of me, I didn't know it was a flaw with all of them
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 03, 2017, 08:49:22 pm
Why the two mini SSDs and 3 HDDs? Did you get a good deal on them or from a friend or something? You should probably get another 8GB of RAM at some point too, but it's not a bad rig. Was it cheap?

Also lol @Squirts with his 750W PSU for a GTX 950
Plenty of room to upgrade though

Oh shit, I didn't realize this thread was for creating new builds. I saw Squirts post his specs and did the same. Everything in the build is super old as you can see if you look up the parts. The two components that were released in the past year are the graphics card and power supply. Everything else is at least 3 years old.



For anyone looking into AMD's new Ryzen CPUs that launched yesterday, hold off on getting one if you're into gaming and nothing else. If you're serious about doing multi-threaded workloads such as streaming, video editing, rendering, etc., then you should certainly get one since it's a better value than Intel in the majority of cases. However, gamers don't have much to gain from the Ryzen 7 line. Wait for Ryzen 5 chips as they are more suited to just gaming and not being overkill. It's the same reason why you don't need to buy an i7 for games over an i5. Expect the R5 to be very competitive with Kaby Lake i5 processors while being cheaper.

Odd-man-out note: If you want the highest fucking possible performance in Arma 3 period, then you need to get the i7-7700K for its superior single-threaded performance.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Ryner on March 06, 2017, 07:04:10 pm
Thinking of upgrading my GPU (currently EVGA GTX 950) sometime soon but I'm a bit limited by my PSU (Cosair 430W)... Any suggestions? I'm eyeing the GTX 1050ti right now.

CPU: i-5 6500 3.2 Ghz
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
Ram: G.Skill Rip Jaws x2 8GB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 06, 2017, 07:18:32 pm
Thinking of upgrading my GPU (currently EVGA GTX 950) sometime soon but I'm a bit limited by my PSU (Cosair 430W)... Any suggestions? I'm eyeing the GTX 1050ti right now.

CPU: i-5 6500 3.2 Ghz
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
Ram: G.Skill Rip Jaws x2 8GB

I would go with a rx 470, it performs much better than 1050ti and is better value for money as well.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 07, 2017, 06:09:44 am
^ I agree with this. You could power an RX 480 or GTX 1060 just fine with that 430W PSU, though, too.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 08, 2017, 08:40:47 pm
Stick to 144hz or go 240hz?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 08, 2017, 10:04:41 pm
240Hz means you need a system that can push out more than 240 FPS most of the time to actually make use of that tech. Good luck keeping all your games above 240 FPS unless you run like a GTX 1080 or 1080Ti. 144Hz is way more sensible and achievable while still being affordable. Me? I'm just happy to be able to hit 60 FPS in most of my games now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 08, 2017, 11:42:21 pm
Quick question: Anyone have any decent budget builds from 600-1000? Should I go for Ryzen?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 10, 2017, 09:59:39 pm
Definitely go for Ryzen if you can.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on March 24, 2017, 08:08:39 pm
Quick question: Anyone have any decent budget builds from 600-1000? Should I go for Ryzen?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on March 24, 2017, 08:26:22 pm
Definitely go for Ryzen if you can.

Huh. As someone currently considering upgrading to a kaby lake CPU, I am also looking at Ryzen. But, why would you recommend getting a Ryzen CPU?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Bauer16 on March 25, 2017, 11:04:37 pm
Quick question: Anyone have any decent budget builds from 600-1000? Should I go for Ryzen?
I am very interested in seeing Ryzen succeed.  However, the results are a little disappointing.  So I would say wait until they work out some issues or avoid Ryzen if you want a new system in the near feature.

Here's a few reviews:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3180525/components-processors/amd-busts-ryzen-performance-myths-clearing-windows-10-and-others-from-blame.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/3180525/components-processors/amd-busts-ryzen-performance-myths-clearing-windows-10-and-others-from-blame.html)
http://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-performance-of-ryzen-7-vs-core-i7-with-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-performance-of-ryzen-7-vs-core-i7-with-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/)

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 25, 2017, 11:56:47 pm
Buy Ryzen so I can get intel cpus cheaper  ::)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: GeneralSquirts on March 26, 2017, 01:16:43 am
Buy Ryzen so I can get intel cpus cheaper  ::)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 29, 2017, 12:33:37 am
Woops, just realized that I wrote 8GB in my RAM section when it's actually 16GB lol. You can see 3 of the modules in the picture (4th is under the CPU cooler).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on July 10, 2017, 08:56:50 pm
I need to get a new desktop, have a budget of £800-£1000, but I'm not very technical so I kinda need some help. I figured I'd just choose out of these two:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/dNj48d/great-intel-gaming-build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/yDFfrH/great-amd-gaming-build

Which of these (if any) would you recommend? Are these complete build guides with nothing extra I need to get other than Windows and a WiFi Adapter? Cheers :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on July 10, 2017, 10:57:27 pm
I need to get a new desktop, have a budget of £800-£1000, but I'm not very technical so I kinda need some help. I figured I'd just choose out of these two:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/dNj48d/great-intel-gaming-build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/yDFfrH/great-amd-gaming-build

Which of these (if any) would you recommend? Are these complete build guides with nothing extra I need to get other than Windows and a WiFi Adapter? Cheers :)

Depends on what your going to use the PC for
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on July 11, 2017, 12:17:27 am
The only demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming, I'm not into CAD or anything like that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 11, 2017, 12:50:35 am
That's a beast of a computer, very nice. Personally I'd go for the 1st over the 2nd but that's just because I prefer Intel, although I don't know how they compare nowadays.
Also DDR4 is still pretty, and I don't know if it's worth getting it just for gaming. Quantity of RAM is still more important than clock speeds, so 16GB of RAM will be plenty, even in DDR3.
You could spend the savings on a HDD to store games on if you want, but I don't know how much space you'll be needing. Games are getting very large (50-60GB for some new releases), and I don't know if 500GB will last if you want to only use an SSD.

You'll need Windows as I don't see it mentioned being included anywhere, but basic wireless capability is inbuilt in motherboards. If you have particularly rubbish WiFi (in apartment complexes or something) you could get an extra wireless card or a USB dongle but it's usually not needed.
I assume you'll be reusing your monitor, mouse and keyboard?
You'll need to get Office too, or use a free programme like OpenOffice, but it's not as polished (it is completely compatible though, so it does work as a temporary solution).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on July 11, 2017, 01:47:54 am
The only demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming, I'm not into CAD or anything like that.

Go with first option, perhaps get a OC'abled i5 CPU + mobo instead. The new western digital ssd's are pretty new so I would wait on the reviews, also you'll be limiting yourself on storage space. 120gb/240gb sdd + western digital 1tb hdd would be better.

You'll need drivers saved on a usb since your build has no disk drive.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 27, 2017, 11:17:24 pm
Any feedback on this one?

CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 1800X
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card SLI
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 27, 2017, 11:23:31 pm
Not sure why you would need 2 GTX 1080 ti's
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 27, 2017, 11:24:25 pm
I want to record YouTube videos and max out any game with a good amount of FPS.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 27, 2017, 11:31:26 pm
I want to record YouTube videos and max out any game with a good amount of FPS.
I can do that with 1 GTX 980 using Shadowplay, so still not sure why you need 2 of them.

Bare in mind they are about €900 each. When I record BF1, The Division and Warhammer I sit between 70-100 FPS which is more than enough. GTX 1080 ti is meant to be what, 25% better? More?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 28, 2017, 12:27:01 pm
Yeah I feel like a single 1080 Ti is plenty for now. You can always get a second if you need it in future, but for current games I can't imagine that you'll get much out of a second.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 28, 2017, 01:33:40 pm
Only reason I will be upgrading from a 980 to a 1080 ti is because of Star Citizen, no reason to do so otherwise.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 28, 2017, 07:40:00 pm
My final build.

(https://i.snag.gy/gQGubd.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 28, 2017, 07:43:30 pm
$600 for a motherboard? What are you building? A PC to fly you to Mars??
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 28, 2017, 07:45:11 pm
"I make my own money so I spend it how I like." - Rae Sremmurd.

I'll post it here again so people haven't got to check a page back. Pls give feedback about the actual build and not money. xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on August 28, 2017, 08:16:31 pm
You sure 1TB of storage data is enough for you? I know it sounds like a lot but with most games being between 50-80GB these days, 1TB is filled up very quickly.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 28, 2017, 08:27:07 pm
Yeah I was also wondering about it. Should I get 2 TB? I'll also record YouTube videos.

Are all these pieces compatible?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Cause it gives me this message, but I don't understand a word from it.

"2 EPS power connectors are needed. We are currently entering in EPS connector data for power supplies to verify this is compatible. In the meantime, please verify the power supply has sufficient EPS connectors for the motherboard."
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on August 29, 2017, 08:30:28 pm
Definitely get 2TB. As for the other thing, I have no idea. Your motherboard looks to be compatible with your CPU, that's the most important part.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 29, 2017, 08:38:41 pm
Good build NiPhix, I might recommend a separate HDD to store videos and the like on just because a 2TB ssd is extremely expensive and they'll eventually go down in price so no point in dropping 400 on one.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 29, 2017, 08:50:29 pm
Oh well I have a new build but thanks for your feedback I will look into that shortly. This is my new update. Also included a Sound card.

I might replace EVGA with MSI. As EVGA is not quite known in Belgium. :c

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFxWpb

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 29, 2017, 09:33:37 pm
900 dollars for a 2tb ssd!?!?!?  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 29, 2017, 09:40:05 pm
Yeah, but I might change it like you said. :p

I really don't know what to do more on this point I'm kinda stuck. I think it's a strong build but I'm open to any other suggestions for the SSD and Sound Card and any other addition a gaming pc MUST have.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 30, 2017, 02:49:23 am
I'd get a 3TB HDD for your videos, as they won't matter as much and will fill up space fast if they're high quality. The 1TB SSD should be fine for games for a while, assuming you don't install every single game you own.

I think the power thing is on about the connections from the PSU to the twin GPUs, as depending on how many extra things you have (maybe sound card?) you might fill up all the slots. I'd check where the sound card draws power from and count each individual slot.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on August 30, 2017, 03:25:54 am
The new desktop PC I ordered.

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/083f925703b1b9fcb062b2d5cd8f1e17.png)
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 30, 2017, 08:49:19 am
I'd get a 3TB HDD for your videos, as they won't matter as much and will fill up space fast if they're high quality. The 1TB SSD should be fine for games for a while, assuming you don't install every single game you own.

I think the power thing is on about the connections from the PSU to the twin GPUs, as depending on how many extra things you have (maybe sound card?) you might fill up all the slots. I'd check where the sound card draws power from and count each individual slot.

Thanks for explaining. I will let a friend who studied it build my PC. I'm a total newbie at it. I have a 2TB HDD used from an other PC. So I guess that's also plenty. The main thing is I don't know which sound card to get. Money should not be a problem. Can anyone suggest a high quality one?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on August 30, 2017, 06:20:07 pm
What's the cheapest way to get Windows 10 for a newbuild PC?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 30, 2017, 06:46:47 pm
Cheapest would involve things which cannot be condoned on this website. Not a particularly safe option though.

Edit: No idea about sound cards tbh, the inbuilt one has always been enough for me
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 30, 2017, 06:47:21 pm
Anyone? :c

I'd get a 3TB HDD for your videos, as they won't matter as much and will fill up space fast if they're high quality. The 1TB SSD should be fine for games for a while, assuming you don't install every single game you own.

I think the power thing is on about the connections from the PSU to the twin GPUs, as depending on how many extra things you have (maybe sound card?) you might fill up all the slots. I'd check where the sound card draws power from and count each individual slot.

Thanks for explaining. I will let a friend who studied it build my PC. I'm a total newbie at it. I have a 2TB HDD used from an other PC. So I guess that's also plenty. The main thing is I don't know which sound card to get. Money should not be a problem. Can anyone suggest a high quality one?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on August 30, 2017, 07:00:43 pm
Cheapest would involve things which cannot be condoned on this website. Not a particularly safe option though.

Edit: No idea about sound cards tbh, the inbuilt one has always been enough for me

Okay let me re-phrase that: what's the cheapest *legal* way of getting Windows 10?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 12:51:55 am
Oh well I have a new build but thanks for your feedback I will look into that shortly. This is my new update. Also included a Sound card.

I might replace EVGA with MSI. As EVGA is not quite known in Belgium. :c

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFxWpb

I think its a bad streaming build sorry. a 4 core is just not up to the task to both game and stream at the same time. even if you overclock that bitch to 5+ ghz.

if you're set on getting intel consider the newest I9 series with a decent board.. they start at 10 core... for 1000 bucks.. Or the 8 core i7..  which is 600 bucks i believe both on x299 platform.
Still I would recommend instead Ryzen, unless your on a 240 hz refresh monitor, anything below that, then the single core performance of ryzen doesn't really matter because it will be able to push frames, as long as you combine it with 3200mhz memory.

About SLI, I would def say don't invest into a SLI build its a waste of money mostly, many games cannot cope with 2 cards properly, you will get stutters and frame drops in the best case, buuut actually one card sitting idle in most cases, because of no SLI support in the games. That includes our upcoming game actually, no SLI support and no chance it will happen in the engine any time soon.

That SSD is a bad option, go for a 960 evo or 960 pro from samsung, if your budget allows, it is like 3 times as fast as a S-ata SDD, these are straight plugged into your motherboard on the PCI-E bus.

If you need more advice just ask.


About win 10, don't get the home version, just get a legal windows 10 pro key from  kinguin I get all my win 10 keys there, def legal def valid and legit. www.kinguin.net
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 06:28:32 am
I'm not gonna stream just record YouTube videos. And I have seen you can turn SLI on and off in the nvidia panel for certain games. I'm also going to get a 165hz monitor from Asus
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 12:11:07 pm
Exactly!.

Recording for youtube, you could do that with NVCapture, but the quality is very inferior compared to recording through OBS with X264 encoding. but to do that you def need more than 4 cores.

Also more and more games use more than 4 cores, like the latest mafia game.. more cores means being more set up for the future.

At this bumpy time with all these new high core count CPU releases it would be a waste not to jump on the train.. especially if you want to keep the pc for 2 years or longer.


About SLI, yeah you can ofc disable it, but why spend 800 euro on a card you hardly use except in 2 games, and those games stutter with many frame drops, but give you an artificial 200 AVERAGE fps. whilst some of those FPS can be as low as 10. due to syncing of data between cards.


About the 165 hz, nice!  I guess your best bet is going for those Intel high core counts. they have high single core + much more threads available.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 01:13:14 pm
Ah thanks for the explanation, do you recommend any intels from the i7-i9 Versions??
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 01:29:43 pm
I would recommend if your budget allows to go for the Intel Core i9-7900X 10 core..  it has enough PCI-e Lanes for SLI if you want.. (44 lanes)
If you are dropping SLI from your build you could go for the lower SKU; Intel Core i7-7820X. It has only 28 PCI-e lanes, so not enough for a SLI build but def enough for 1 card + a PCIe SSD.


Actually, speaking about PCI-e lanes.. a 7700K only has 16 lanes, so that's enough for.. 1 graphics card.. lol.. and not even an SSD.
A Ryzen entry level even has 24 PCI-E lanes.. damn.. intel cutting corners here. Hell a Threadripper from AMD has 64 lanes.. xD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 01:47:06 pm
If I take the i9 should I also change the motherboard? If so is there any you recommend? Value doesn't really matter in price.

And which ssd should I pick?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 01:54:27 pm
Yes, ofc!, for a I9 you need a x299 motherboard. those 7700k motherboards have a difirent chipset and socket.

Which one exactly.. hard to say.. I haven't checked the reviews too much yet. but any of the main brands should be ok. as long as... the cooling is correct.

Very Important with x299 platform to check if the motherboard has a big heatsink on the mosfets with a extra heatpipe to the next cool block because those parts will get hot...

Motherboards that jump out for me:
Asus ROG Rampage VI Extreme
Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 9
Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7

I think the ASus will release in a few weeks. thats the one i'm getting probably.. or those aorus.. their also talking to me, I'm getting a quite similar system as you actually.

For SSD, easy.

Go for Samsung 960 Pro if your budget allows it. if not, go for Samsung 960 Evo.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 01:58:49 pm
Oh that's quite nice. I'm gonna make a new update on pcpartpicker on all the new details I have received from you. If I post it here today or tomorrow could you review it again?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 01:59:31 pm
Geen probleem.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 03, 2017, 06:19:55 pm
Thanks for the link-saw Kinguin but looked a bit suspicious. Slightly more expensive here but the buyer protection comes with it rather than an optional add-on that Kinguin charges for: https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-10/

I have another question: I bought an Intel i5 7500 but I'm not sure whether I need to get a fan or if I can get away with the one it comes with? Most demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming and I got a GTX 1080 for it (kinda annoying, I wanted to get a 1070 but the prices have increased considerably in the last few months).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 03, 2017, 06:34:03 pm
Thanks for the link-saw Kinguin but looked a bit suspicious. Slightly more expensive here but the buyer protection comes with it rather than an optional add-on that Kinguin charges for: https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-10/

I have another question: I bought an Intel i5 7500 but I'm not sure whether I need to get a fan or if I can get away with the one it comes with? Most demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming and I got a GTX 1080 for it (kinda annoying, I wanted to get a 1070 but the prices have increased considerably in the last few months).
Bitcoin mining, its become a bitch for the market.

As long as you are not overclocking then you will be fine. Always a nice touch to buy a $40 if you have the cash laying around though. To increase longevity of the CPU.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 04, 2017, 10:32:57 am
Thanks for the link-saw Kinguin but looked a bit suspicious. Slightly more expensive here but the buyer protection comes with it rather than an optional add-on that Kinguin charges for: https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-10/

I have another question: I bought an Intel i5 7500 but I'm not sure whether I need to get a fan or if I can get away with the one it comes with? Most demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming and I got a GTX 1080 for it (kinda annoying, I wanted to get a 1070 but the prices have increased considerably in the last few months).

Nah, that cpu is medium speed, not overclocked probably, it doesn't hurt to keep the default cooler at all. i mean if you get a K series SKU and overclock it, then def you need a better cooling.
Cpu's don't die from heat as they used to.. no problems. waste of money.

Instead pocket the money for your next build. cause i feel that CPU won't last you long in terms of performance in upcoming games.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 04, 2017, 03:27:23 pm
Thanks, was gonna spend a bit more on the CPU but my wife won't let me lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 04, 2017, 03:36:59 pm
Thanks, was gonna spend a bit more on the CPU but my wife won't let me lol
get a new wife.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 04, 2017, 03:54:04 pm
Thanks, was gonna spend a bit more on the CPU but my wife won't let me lol
get a new wife.
I agree.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 12:31:49 am
Kinda stuck looking for a monitor-any recommendations? Nothing massive, have a £200 budget.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 02:15:26 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.

If on tight budget.. consider a TN panel instead.. with high refresh and 1440p?

If even tighter budget, consider a 1080P with 120+hz..
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 05, 2017, 02:17:10 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.
no way, that would cost around £450+.

My Asus 1080p 144hz monitor was £250 when I bought it 2 years ago. I am sure you can grab something for that price now
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 02:21:46 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.
no way, that would cost around £450+.

My Asus 1080p 144hz monitor was £250 when I bought it 2 years ago. I am sure you can grab something for that price now

Yep your right.. market sucks.. but for 200 pounds a 1920x1080 144 hz TN monitor is possible.. their 24 inch.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 05, 2017, 02:25:16 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.
no way, that would cost around £450+.

My Asus 1080p 144hz monitor was £250 when I bought it 2 years ago. I am sure you can grab something for that price now

Yep your right.. market sucks.. but for 200 pounds a 1920x1080 144 hz TN monitor is possible.. their 24 inch.
don't remember the model of mine, Asus VG...

Its a good monitor to start out. Personally I am saving for a 4k 144 hz because why not
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 02:27:17 pm
Yeah i'm waiting for ages already to get a 4k 144 hz, when will they FINALLY release them??

I'm so sick and tired of 60 hz on my screens.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 03:29:08 pm
So something like this maybe?
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/aoc-i2369vm-full-hd-23-ips-led-monitor-with-mhl-21408588-pdt.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 03:33:08 pm
So something like this maybe?
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/aoc-i2369vm-full-hd-23-ips-led-monitor-with-mhl-21408588-pdt.html
No, I don't recommend that for gaming, it has a slow IPS panel and only 60 Hz, try to get a 120+ like 144hz gaming monitor. they cost twice as much but def worth it for gamers believe me.


On the same website I saw this for instance:
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/acer-predator-gn246hlbbi-full-hd-24-3d-led-gaming-monitor-22071107-pdt.html
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/aoc-g2460pf-full-hd-24-led-144hz-gaming-monitor-10141938-pdt.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 03:37:23 pm
Cheers, busting my budget here haha. If it wasn't for bitcoin mining!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 04:29:24 pm
Okay, thoughts on this one?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/samsung-c24fg70-24-1920x1080-va-freesync-144hz-gaming-quantum-dot-widescreen-monitor-mo-230-sa.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 09:01:46 pm
Okay, thoughts on this one?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/samsung-c24fg70-24-1920x1080-va-freesync-144hz-gaming-quantum-dot-widescreen-monitor-mo-230-sa.html

looks fine to me glancing over the specs. maybe look up some reviews online if it's any good.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 12, 2017, 10:55:56 pm
Probably a retarded question but do I connect my graphics card straight to my monitor? It's currently connected up via HDMI from motherboard to monitor.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on September 12, 2017, 11:22:30 pm
Probably a retarded question but do I connect my graphics card straight to my monitor? It's currently connected up via HDMI from motherboard to monitor.
If it's a >60hz monitor then you'll need a displayport cable to get the higher refresh rate. HDMI is capped to 60. This needs to go from card directly into monitor. It also has to be enabled via the settings but I forgot how to but it's not very hard.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 12, 2017, 11:28:42 pm
Okay, so I should just pull out the HDMI motherboard to monitor and have displayport from my graphics card to monitor as the only connection?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 01:00:59 am
I bought a pentium for my new build. Good right?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on September 13, 2017, 01:06:34 am
Okay, so I should just pull out the HDMI motherboard to monitor and have displayport from my graphics card to monitor as the only connection?
Yes. DP cable from graphics card into monitor directly.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 13, 2017, 01:48:57 am
Okay, so I should just pull out the HDMI motherboard to monitor and have displayport from my graphics card to monitor as the only connection?
Yes. DP cable from graphics card into monitor directly.

Cheers
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 13, 2017, 09:33:57 am
I bought a pentium for my new build. Good right?
No, not really no, post the full specs of your pc and your budget, maybe something else is possible.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 10:22:36 am
I bought a pentium for my new build. Good right?
No, not really no, post the full specs of your pc and your budget, maybe something else is possible.
I was joking Vince  :-*
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Edwin on September 13, 2017, 05:41:45 pm
Cheers

This guy can read obscure EU legislation but couldn't hook up his monitor and graphics card ...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on September 13, 2017, 05:52:52 pm
Well, whadda ya know, people have different areas of interest! What a scandal!
I can't code but I can perform a mental state examination. Weird how I can do one but not the other of these two unrelated things.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 05:54:41 pm
Cheers

This guy can read obscure EU legislation but couldn't hook up his monitor and graphics card ...
It's almost like the two are unrelated
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Edwin on September 13, 2017, 06:12:35 pm
Whoa look at the Steven Chilton fan club over here... Yikes.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 13, 2017, 06:23:01 pm
Cheers

This guy can read obscure EU legislation but couldn't hook up his monitor and graphics card ...
It's almost like the two are unrelated

Lol, when it comes to tech I'm kinda retarded.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 13, 2017, 07:07:25 pm
It's not the only subject where that applies. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 07:10:00 pm
It's not the only subject where that applies. :P
Such a savage
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 13, 2017, 09:29:27 pm
It's not the only subject where that applies. :P

Wow, brb gonna pre-order WoR  ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 02, 2017, 07:20:34 pm
Does this seem like a good deal? I've been hunting for a 144hz but I personally have no idea if they're worth it. I've heard some people say that once you go 144hz it's really hard adjusting back to 60hz. Just thought I'd ask my fellow NW friends, ha.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236722&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL110217C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL110217C-_-EMC-110217-Latest-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236722-S0M&ignorebbr=1 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236722&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL110217C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL110217C-_-EMC-110217-Latest-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236722-S0M&ignorebbr=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on November 02, 2017, 09:50:24 pm
Is it possible to play NW on an iMac i7-4.2Ghz Radeon pro 580? This is a serious question tbh. I don't know if the game can be played on Macintosh or not.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 07, 2017, 09:40:44 pm
My board burned out and I reckon it's time to upgrade my CPU as well. Any recommendations that aren't Ryzen?

My other question is what happens with the OS? Does windows need to be rebought if I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 08, 2017, 12:55:53 am
My board burned out and I reckon it's time to upgrade my CPU as well. Any recommendations that aren't Ryzen?

My other question is what happens with the OS? Does windows need to be rebought if I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free?
The core series are pretty good (i5 8400 and 8700 to be specific) if Intel is within price range.  Since you aren't looking for Ryzen the AMD options can get limited, but I would go for a TR4($$$$$) or a FX for its relatively cheap price.



I have no clue about the second question, but if I were to guess that unless you previously owned Windows Seven on your Microsoft account you would have to rebuy it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on December 08, 2017, 01:25:40 am
My other question is what happens with the OS? Does windows need to be rebought if I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free?

No, but it requires you to have undertaken certain steps before you even upgraded. I am not sure if you can still boot your PC to undertake those steps, but I am gonna list them anyway. If you can't get your PC to run anymore to do this prep, then you're fucked.

Firstly, you need to make a bootable installation file for Windows 10. To do so, have Win 10 installed and then download a program called the Windows Media Creation Tool. Run the program and follow the steps to create a Win 10 installation file. Make sure to have a USB flash drive plugged in so the program can place the installation files on the usb drive. It's free, 100% legal and pretty easy to use. Should be plenty of guides on the interwebs too.

Secondly, write down your Windows license key. Now, there is good possibility that Windows automatically assigned you a new key when you upgraded, meaning your retail Win 7 key won't work. There are programs on the internet that can find and identify Windows product keys on your computer for you. Google it as I can't recall what tool I used.

Now, when you have your new PC all set up just boot from the flash drive, install Win 10 and activate your key once its done. Voila.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 08, 2017, 08:48:34 pm
Ahh, okay. Thanks for the help, joer and Winters.

Strangely enough, I'm actually leaning towards Ryzen now simply due to it being better at rendering and since I have a 1337 gaming channel with 230 subs. However, it seems as though intel is better on a single core level and that overall, aside from rendering, the intel is better in every way. It's really a shame that intel doesn't have an 8 core model to compete with Ryzen without paying space shuttle prices. Why is everything such a tough choice nowadays
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on December 08, 2017, 09:07:17 pm
You liked it when Intel had no competition and a decent cpu costed you 1k?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 08, 2017, 09:27:33 pm
You liked it when Intel had no competition and a decent cpu costed you 1k?
It's really a shame that intel doesn't have an 8 core model to compete with Ryzen without paying space shuttle prices.

On another note, it seems like the 8700k is not as good as the 1700X but AMD does tend to optimize their hardware so it's possible the gap could get further. I guess it really just depends if I want gaming performance or if I want to render more and spread out the workload onto more cores.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on December 11, 2017, 06:49:51 am
If you use your PC for both, get a 8700k.

In terms of Multi core performance 1700x and the 8700k are almost the same, but single core performance the 8700k leads by a wide margin. The 8700k is the leader in single core performance right now and will probably stay so for quite some while. Most of them can also be overclocked to a stable 5 up to 5.3gghz (I saw one with 5.5...) which is insane.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 11, 2017, 10:15:47 am
i9 any opinions
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on December 11, 2017, 03:33:06 pm
I have a i9, costed a fortune but its good. :P

Though probably i would have been equal happy with a threadripper from amd.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 25, 2017, 06:14:19 pm
I have a friend who wanted also to buy a Laptop because he wanted to play Skyrim and Oblivion. He always played it on PS3 and he also wanted to experience Skyrim with the good mods. He, just like me, doesn't know much about technical stuff about graphics and all that.

Do you guys have any recommendations for a good gaming laptop which can max Skyrim in ultra out with its high demanding graphical mods and all that?

Edit: Forgot to mention that the price doesnt matter.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 26, 2017, 10:15:22 am
Bump
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 26, 2017, 11:35:56 am
asus?

google? xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 26, 2017, 11:40:23 am
"No Budget"

Then what do you need us for, just buy any old beastly laptop with good reviews
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 26, 2017, 02:09:13 pm
Today the day reviews cannot be trusted anymore. Its all commercial and fake. Therefore Im asking it here on these forums.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on December 26, 2017, 03:11:53 pm
Today the day reviews cannot be trusted anymore. Its all commercial and fake. Therefore Im asking it here on these forums.

1. That's a bit of a generalization.
2. Reviewers often have a lot more experience in this stuff and have more stuff to compare to than most here.
3. There's always such a thing as user reviews, unless you think those are bought as well.

Anyway, the first question I always ask when I see the word 'gaming-laptop' is: do you really need it? Ask your friend that question first. Because unless he is planning on moving around a lot, switching places or he needs a portable workplace when he's not gaming, then there is no reason to get a laptop. PCs do everything a laptop does but better and cheaper. So he does absolutely -need- a laptop or is a PC just fine as well?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 26, 2017, 06:45:04 pm
Well he quite moves a lot to be honest. He didnt want a PC he told me. He wanted something comfortable as he Also studies at college and stuff
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: adamsimon on March 02, 2018, 06:53:47 pm
This is what I got:

Intel Core i5-7500
Asus Prime B250-Plus motherboard
Asus Geforce GTX 1060 6GB
16GB TeamGroup Vulcan
1TB Seagate HDD
240GB Sandisk SSD
Cooler Master Masterbox 5 house
500W - Corsair CX 500 80+ Bronze
Philips 24" 240V5QDAB/00 LED monitor
Cooler Master Storm Devastator II USB keyboard+mouse
Genius SW-G2.1 1250 speaker
Windows 10 Pro, 64 Bit, HU
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 11, 2018, 08:20:27 pm
Anyone here excited for Zen+? My computer died and I need to upgrade. It is tempting but at the same time Intel will always be better once they release their next set.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 12, 2018, 03:11:16 pm
I'd go for Intel again. Especially if you only game.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 12, 2018, 03:49:16 pm
No point in going for these high core count AMD cpu's if you don't do things like streaming. Even for video editing your GPU does most of the work there.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 12, 2018, 10:46:16 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 12, 2018, 10:49:36 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Check that the CPU and Motherboard power cables are in correctly. Thats what I usually check first when that happens at work (I used to be an engineer). If not reset your CMOS. Google how to do it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 13, 2018, 12:55:20 am
Do you have the mini speaker on the motherboard? One should come with it. The sounds it makes are a post code which will let you identify what the problem is.
The only thing we know is that it's not the PSU as fans etc wouldn't turn at all.

Have you done anything to it recently (changed bits, moved it around, dropped it etc)?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 13, 2018, 09:42:01 pm
I was attempting to fix the windows update problem I had been having. It said my system reserved partition wasn't big enough. I checked it and it said it had a few megabytes of space left somehow (I suspect something, like malwarebytes, was using it as storage) and after that it wouldn't turn on. However, it is time to upgrade and so I guess this is as good as an excuse as any.

New Ryzen chips look okay. I'm too broke to buy one now but I hope Intel's answer comes soon.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 13, 2018, 09:51:30 pm
What do you think of NZXT building?

https://www.nzxt.com/bldnow

Looks like the best way to get a new PC atm, considering the overpriced separated parts on the market.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 13, 2018, 10:26:36 pm
What do you think of NZXT building?

https://www.nzxt.com/bldnow

Looks like the best way to get a new PC atm, considering the overpriced separated parts on the market.
That's not a bad site, but it is very expensive. I've been eyeing this prebuilt but sadly it's not an 8700k. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIADYY6YP8228
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 07:48:19 am
So finally after a long dilemma and waiting until parts came out Im ready for a Game PC. Olafson already put me in a good direction so thank you for that. However some parts were not available from the shop I wanted to order it from so I’ve made a custom list with some of the parts he recommended.

I dont have a max budget. I just want to max out games like total war, arma, battlefield etc, in 4k with minimal 60fps. I dont care about the costs so if you have any imagination, just go wild. Overkill is also good for me. Im not a fan of SLI though.

Here are the parts I have. If you think these are not good enough for the build I want then please feel free to correct them.

Its from a Dutch site but the parts are in English, if you might have any questions just ask. :)


https://m.imgur.com/K6zRxiu

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 21, 2018, 09:51:59 am
What else do you want lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 09:56:10 am
What else do you want lol
I just want to be sure I have something powerful and fast. I'm a total noob when it comes at pc building.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 21, 2018, 09:57:47 am
What else do you want lol
I just want to be sure I have something powerful and fast. I'm a total noob when it comes at pc building.

If price doesn't matter just buy things with the highest price mark and ull be fine
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 10:22:50 am
The thing is I don't know which parts belong to which because on some motherboards you can't put some things that are not connected to it etc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on April 21, 2018, 10:23:45 am
that graphics card tho  :o
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 10:41:40 am
Aye. I have seen a review and its nice.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 21, 2018, 01:41:53 pm
The thing is I don't know which parts belong to which because on some motherboards you can't put some things that are not connected to it etc.

ITS A FUCKING LEGO
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on April 21, 2018, 01:53:50 pm
This system should run fine.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 02:48:48 pm
So if I build this then Im good to go for what I wanted? Cause then Im ready to pay it actually.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on April 21, 2018, 03:07:24 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 03:10:24 pm
Nice thanks. :)

Cheaper than I thought. Because i had another build and it costs me now just the half of it. Thanks for all the help olafson. :)

Just ordered all the parts. HYPE.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 23, 2018, 11:57:12 am
So I only still have to order a motherboard and these are my specs. Is the motherboard compatible with it all?

Graphics Card: Asus Geforce GTX 1080 TI RoG Strix 11G Gaming
Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus X Hero
RAM: Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3000 c15
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 Black Tempered Glass
CPU: Intel Core i7 8700K
Cooler: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 1 TB
HDD: Western Digital-Blue WD20EZRZ 2TB
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850W
Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit Nederlandse versie
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Knightmare on April 23, 2018, 03:24:06 pm
donate naw
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 23, 2018, 07:19:13 pm
Against better judgement I got a 2700x build. It was a little over 1200 which is really insane for the workstation load I'll be putting on it and the components I got. I just wish I could have gotten a 1070 but the price jump from a 6GB 1060 to the 1070 is insane. I wanted the 8700k but I plan on using this a lot more for editing and rendering then I do for just games and it's just way more expensive to go the intel route.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on April 23, 2018, 08:49:20 pm
I personally would have adviced against buying a new build right at this moment unless you absolutely have to. According to some rumours, Nvidia will reveal and launch their new 1100 series this year. Even if you don't want an 1100 series, its release would push the prices of the 1000 series down.

Besides that, the cryptocurrency bubble is still going on. Will it pop? I dunno, but I don't need to upgrade my build right now which allows me to wait and see what happens. Who knows what might happen the next few months.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 23, 2018, 08:54:38 pm
I personally would have adviced against buying a new build right at this moment unless you absolutely have to. According to some rumours, Nvidia will reveal and launch their new 1100 series this year. Even if you don't want an 1100 series, its release would push the prices of the 1000 series down.

Besides that, the cryptocurrency bubble is still going on. Will it pop? I dunno, but I don't need to upgrade my build right now which allows me to wait and see what happens. Who knows what might happen the next few months.
The ultimate uncertainty there is why I just bit the bullet and got a 1060. I figured if the bubble does pop / 1100 series comes out, then I'll just grab a second 1060 and SLI it up for a cheap price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 23, 2018, 08:59:32 pm
Correction: 1060 doesn't support SLI. rip
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on April 23, 2018, 11:28:44 pm
Nvidia is slowly dropping SLI support all across the board and very few games actually support it nowadays. You get far better performance with a single, strong card than two in SLI config.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Bauer16 on May 07, 2018, 07:07:08 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Sound like your power supply.  Had this happen on different computers.   Replaced the PSU and all was good.
Just read your later posts.  Enjoy your new system.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on May 07, 2018, 07:39:10 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Sound like your power supply.  Had this happen on different computers.   Replaced the PSU and all was good.
Just read your later posts.  Enjoy your new system.
Yeah, I decided it wasn't worth the trouble and my system has already aged dramatically, especially my GPU (Nvidia 770). There's no point in dishing out 300 for a 1060 just for the GPU to be bottlenecked by an older processor and the 2700x should age nicely as games and programs shift to multicore. Thanks for the advice though!

I feel the more Ryzen is being demo'd the more it's accentuating that Intel is just too lazy to try and actually fix their products to compete with Ryzen. I'd rather fuel the competition.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on May 07, 2018, 07:57:41 pm
Intel is bringing out more multi cored products that are better than the equivalent Ryzen's, but they are still more expensive so at the end of the day it comes down to what you will actually do with the CPU's.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on May 07, 2018, 08:05:36 pm
Intel is bringing out more multi cored products that are better than the equivalent Ryzen's, but they are still more expensive so at the end of the day it comes down to what you will actually do with the CPU's.
Pretty much. Intel will hold the single core performance while Ryzen will hold multicore. Either way with the 2700x coming with the Prism cooler and price difference I just find it better and easier to work with compared to the 8700k but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Title: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 17, 2018, 10:18:37 pm
As I am going to buy a new PC, I thought it could be helpful if people would have the opportunity to post their set ups (or what they want to buy etc.) on a thread, thus creating this. I hope we have some people with knowledge in this area (i only got the basic stuff you need to know) and are able to help others out.
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 17, 2018, 10:22:00 pm
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Nero_ on June 17, 2018, 10:22:17 pm
something something pentium 2
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Noorwegian on June 17, 2018, 10:41:12 pm
As I am going to buy a new PC, I thought it could be helpful if people would have the opportunity to post their set ups (or what they want to buy etc.) on a thread, thus creating this. I hope we have some people with knowledge in this area (i only got the basic stuff you need to know) and are able to help others out.

Merged your thread into the previously existing thread to keep it more clean in the sub-board.
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Windflower on June 17, 2018, 10:47:13 pm
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 08:26:55 am
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(

Well the tower, Processor and Video card contain air coolers
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Kore on June 18, 2018, 09:10:44 am
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(

Well the tower, Processor and Video card contain air coolers

well you want a good airflow

also why ryzen
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 09:26:45 am
Ryzen 2600x is like €70 cheaper but more or less the same as an i5 8600, its not a bad choice.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 18, 2018, 09:29:27 am
Ryzen 2600x is like €70 cheaper but more or less the same as an i5 8600, its not a bad choice.

no, overPRICEd intels ftw
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 10:29:20 am
Intel is better for gaming ofc, but as I need performance for uni (engineering/mathematics programs) I´ve read that 2600x is the better way to go. As price said it´s more or less equal to a 8600k. I´m not sure if it´s worth to get an i7 or a better graphic card. That set up is said to be able to perform every actual game on high settings with good fps.. idk
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 10:31:14 am
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(

Well the tower, Processor and Video card contain air coolers

well you want a good airflow

also why ryzen

so i should get another cooler?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 10:41:37 am
Intel is better for gaming ofc, but as I need performance for uni (engineering/mathematics programs) I´ve read that 2600x is the better way to go. As price said it´s more or less equal to a 8600k. I´m not sure if it´s worth to get an i7 or a better graphic card. That set up is said to be able to perform every actual game on high settings with good fps.. idk
I was talking to Herishey about him buying his new PC, what you should really do is scrap the idea of getting a 1060 and just buy a 2nd hand 980Ti for the same ish Price.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-GEFORCE-GTX-980TI-STRIX-GAMING-GPU-GRAPHICS-CARD/223019600764?hash=item33ed010b7c:g:NN0AAOSwo5lbJBAI

Thats what I sent him, if you think about it, a 1060 will run new games on medium with maybe a few high settings depending on what you play, 980Ti runs every game at max settings 60fps on 1080p for a cheaper price. Yes its second hand but the 1100 series cards will be coming out at the end/early next year so the price of newer cards will drop.

Theres like 10 listings on Ebay in europe for like £200, when you consider I bought my 980 (Original, Ti is 15% faster) on release for £799, which still runs all games at max @1080 thats a fucking bargain.

So in reality, if you spend the £70 that you save from getting a 980Ti second hand over a 1060 which is shit, you can get a fantastic GFX card and an i7 8700k.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 12:37:53 pm
This is what I'd decided on after speaking with El Chriseh (some parts aren't specific yet);

Case - Antec p110 luce
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING 1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Processor - Intel - 8700k i7
RAM - DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2800, memory x2
Graphics Card - Nvidia GTX 980ti
PSU - 650w Corsair
Hard Drive - 500GB SSD
Optical Drive - SATA Blueray ROM.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 03:06:22 pm
This is what I'd decided on after speaking with El Chriseh (some parts aren't specific yet);

Case - Antec p110 luce
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING 1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Processor - Intel - 8700k i7
RAM - DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2800, memory x2
Graphics Card - Nvidia GTX 980ti
PSU - 650w Corsair
Hard Drive - 500GB SSD
Optical Drive - SATA Blueray ROM. - £50

whats the overall costs?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 03:15:02 pm
This is what I'd decided on after speaking with El Chriseh (some parts aren't specific yet);

Case - Antec p110 luce
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING 1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Processor - Intel - 8700k i7
RAM - DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2800, memory x2
Graphics Card - Nvidia GTX 980ti
PSU - 650w Corsair
Hard Drive - 500GB SSD
Optical Drive - SATA Blueray ROM. - £50

whats the overall costs?
Can't remember exactly but like £1000-1250 I imagine (building not pre-made).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 03:57:07 pm
I spent 2k on mine when that GFX card was new, to buy my PC now would cost like 700 feelsbadman, its only 3 and a bit years old
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 04:15:54 pm
I think my calculations based on what we discussed was around £1350 but that's without taking into account some bundles I can get.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on June 18, 2018, 10:04:12 pm
I think my calculations based on what we discussed was around £1350 but that's without taking into account some bundles I can get.
I think that will be enough to run Warband on max graphics. Also the quiz games you play.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 10:06:53 pm
Thats a hard oof right there @Herishey
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 10:18:18 pm
I am partial to some quiz games.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on June 19, 2018, 06:40:48 pm
I am partial to some quiz games.
Me too I think those videos are the best.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 19, 2018, 06:47:44 pm
So do the other 10 people who watch them
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 19, 2018, 08:43:56 pm
So do the other 10 people who watch them
9 more than watch any of ur vids!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 19, 2018, 08:45:43 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on June 19, 2018, 08:49:24 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?

+1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 19, 2018, 09:13:00 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?
As long as they werent used for Bitcoin mining there is no reason to be skeptical. Now, if it was a CPU thats a different story. Most people take a GPU as it is and stick it in their PC without doing any aftermarket changes. As most GPU's come with great coolers including the NVidia stock one, its the PC part that is the least prone to wear overtime due to like dust etc. if someone hasn't kept their PC well cooled. However something like a CPU and RAM can eventually have problems.

Not to mention even if you spend 200 on a 980Ti and it lasts you 2 years, thats worth it in my opinion. I bought my 680 second hand and it lasted me 2 and a half years.

Also refurbished means nothing. If a card is damaged internally then its damaged. Refurbishing would be to change the shroud, clean it etc. Like buying a refurbished Laptop, they would replace the keyboard, maybe the screen if need be then thats it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on June 19, 2018, 09:14:10 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?

+1
1060 may be a slight decrease in graphics but it might be better in terms of longevity and optimization.

I'd recommend browsing here for GPU sales (and PC in general)
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Zülfikar on June 19, 2018, 09:22:57 pm
This is my PC

GTX 1080
i7 7700k
3000Mhz 16 gb RAM
250 GB SSD
1 TB HDD
144hz Monitor
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on June 20, 2018, 06:12:41 pm
So do the other 10 people who watch them
At least they watch quality content not anime like u weebo.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on July 04, 2018, 08:52:23 pm
Fractal Define R6 black - Glass mirror
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (8x 3.7GHz / 4.3GHz Turbo)
Standard AMD/INTEL Box cooler
MSI X470 Gaming Pro
16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) G.Skill DDR4 3200MHz TridentZ RGB
250GB Crucial MX500 M.2 SATA-SSD (L 560MB/s ; S 510MB/s)
1000GB SATA 6GB/s 7200rpm
8GB MSI GTX1070Ti GAMING
500W BeQuiet PurePower 10

Any opinions?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on July 29, 2018, 02:32:04 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on July 29, 2018, 02:40:38 pm
If it's pure for gaming I would suggest 16GB's of ram. If you want to record and that stuff and stream then I would recommend 32GB.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on July 30, 2018, 08:37:04 pm
Im looking to get a new computer soon but Ive heard some people say that buying a pre built pc is now a better deal. Is it still better to buy parts individually or should I be looking for a pre built pc?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on July 30, 2018, 08:55:08 pm
Im looking to get a new computer soon but Ive heard some people say that buying a pre built pc is now a better deal. Is it still better to buy parts individually or should I be looking for a pre built pc?

11xx gen gpus are coming soon so I'd actually wait a little
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wursti on July 30, 2018, 10:27:37 pm
my SSD got 200 GB RAM wym
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on July 31, 2018, 02:53:14 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Just go for the slightly lower mhz count. It really does not matter to much. Ram is crazy expensive anyway.

Im looking to get a new computer soon but Ive heard some people say that buying a pre built pc is now a better deal. Is it still better to buy parts individually or should I be looking for a pre built pc?


11xx gen gpus are coming soon so I'd actually wait a little


I wouldn't expect them before march next year though. That is still quite far away.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on October 26, 2018, 08:28:39 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Next to nothing. The one game that I'm aware of that really benefits from faster RAM is Arma 3, and anyone who plays Arma games knows there's a lot of issues with those game engines. It's not worth breaking the bank for that one game unless it's basically your life like Arma celebrity Dslyecxi.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on October 26, 2018, 09:34:00 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Next to nothing. The one game that I'm aware of that really benefits from faster RAM is Arma 3, and anyone who plays Arma games knows there's a lot of issues with those game engines. It's not worth breaking the bank for that one game unless it's basically your life like Arma celebrity Dslyecxi.
It's so damn sad that their engine is poorly optimized.  That being said, Arma is one of the few games I can tolerate playing at 15-30 frames in demanding situations.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on October 26, 2018, 11:59:21 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Next to nothing. The one game that I'm aware of that really benefits from faster RAM is Arma 3, and anyone who plays Arma games knows there's a lot of issues with those game engines. It's not worth breaking the bank for that one game unless it's basically your life like Arma celebrity Dslyecxi.
It's so damn sad that their engine is poorly optimized.  That being said, Arma is one of the few games I can tolerate playing at 15-30 frames in demanding situations.

yeah, it's usually so slow paced that it doesn't even matter =D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 23, 2018, 04:27:25 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on November 26, 2018, 11:42:40 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 26, 2018, 11:50:27 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
probably but meh. I’m still enjoying it.

The computer actually went on sale the next day. So that’s pretty cool
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on November 27, 2018, 03:44:43 am
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
probably but meh. I’m still enjoying it.

The computer actually went on sale the next day. So that’s pretty cool

Show me dem bf5 reflections boi
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on November 27, 2018, 03:52:35 am
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
probably but meh. I’m still enjoying it.

The computer actually went on sale the next day. So that’s pretty cool

Show me dem bf5 reflections boi

He can show you in a presentation XDXD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 27, 2018, 08:55:05 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 27, 2018, 09:05:21 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 27, 2018, 09:06:38 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Weird flex but okay
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 29, 2018, 12:58:26 am
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Weird flex but okay
more of a meme than a flex

How much would you pay for it?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 29, 2018, 08:42:26 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Weird flex but okay
more of a meme than a flex

How much would you pay for it?
Well if you go to ibuypower's website this is their front computer and it's both cheaper and better than yours with a better CPU and RAM. Perhaps a smaller SSD but you can always upgrade that.
https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Cyber-Monday-Intel-Z390-i7-Gaming-Ultra

Edit: I would have paid 1300-1400 for that computer since it's only an 8700k.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 04, 2018, 07:50:09 am
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 09:24:14 am
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
I always tell people not to buy Graphics cards like that Marceaux.

If you take a look at refurbished or second hand 980 ti for 200 to 250 dollars these days which will give you more performance than a GTX 1080 which is still a $600 card.

I recently replaced my one GTX 980 for 2 980 TI's in SLI. Don't worry about them being second hand, as long as the card hasn't been mining for 5 years, graphics cards always tend to be the longest standing component of a build most of the time.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 04, 2018, 10:45:22 am
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
I always tell people not to buy Graphics cards like that Marceaux.

If you take a look at refurbished or second hand 980 ti for 200 to 250 dollars these days which will give you more performance than a GTX 1080 which is still a $600 card.

I recently replaced my one GTX 980 for 2 080 TI's in SLI. Don't worry about them being second hand, as long as the card hasn't been mining for 5 years, graphics cards always tend to be the longest standing component of a build most of the time.

080 Ti is my favourite card
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 12:31:07 pm
Fuck you, phone typing.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 04, 2018, 12:57:09 pm
Fuck you, phone typing.

=DDDD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 04, 2018, 05:03:12 pm
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
I always tell people not to buy Graphics cards like that Marceaux.

If you take a look at refurbished or second hand 980 ti for 200 to 250 dollars these days which will give you more performance than a GTX 1080 which is still a $600 card.

I recently replaced my one GTX 980 for 2 980 TI's in SLI. Don't worry about them being second hand, as long as the card hasn't been mining for 5 years, graphics cards always tend to be the longest standing component of a build most of the time.

Whats wrong with the RX cards? (Genuine question as i know very little about gpx cards.)

How does the 980 compare to this card? I figured NVIDIA cards were better but not sure how much for the price? People were saying the rx570 has pretty good performance and i figured a 4gb card would be enough for awhile until i can afford a BIG card. I mainly picked this card because i wanted to keep the build pure with AMD/ASUS-ROG-STRIX/Corsair parts only for pretty much everything. But if the rx 560-580 cards are junk then maybe i will pass. Graphics cards are the only thing i haven't put much research into yet.

And keep in mind i plan to acquire these parts slowly over a few months.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 07:19:18 pm
RX cards are for budget pc's. The GTX 1050TI which I put in my brothers pc only runs games at about 30-40 fps on Medium. Which is around the same price point as that card.

Whereas my GTX980TI runs games on Max at 60fps at 1080p. I turn Anti Aliasing down as I have a 1440p monitor then I still get 60fps even then.

So yeah, for about a 60-70% better card you pay the same price. Only issue being it would be second hand but graphics cards last a lifetime anyway.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on December 04, 2018, 07:24:17 pm
RX cards are for budget pc's. The GTX 1050TI which I put in my brothers pc only runs games at about 30-40 fps on Medium. Which is around the same price point as that card.

Whereas my GTX980TI runs games on Max at 60fps at 1080p. I turn Anti Aliasing down as I have a 1440p monitor then I still get 60fps even then.

So yeah, for about a 60-70% better card you pay the same price. Only issue being it would be second hand but graphics cards last a lifetime anyway.

Help me build a PC dad.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 07:25:48 pm
I actually had this same convo with Herishey a few months back. Not sure if he bought it in the end but he was going to buy a GTX 1060 but I talked him out of buying that junk card.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 06, 2018, 08:17:06 pm
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126231

Well I'll be damned
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 06, 2018, 09:13:37 pm
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126231

Well I'll be damned
But can it run Crysis 3 at 60 frames, 16:9 aspect ration, and a shitty 2007 1080i monitor I picked up from Microsoft during Cyber Monday?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 16, 2018, 08:06:35 pm
Quick question: I kind of want to get a cheap second graphics card so I can run my monitors independently; What's a good, yet cheap GPU for that purpose?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 21, 2018, 07:57:28 pm
So i have changed up my build ALOT, going for ultimate budget banger so i can buy it all at once instead of over time. This will be my first build EVER but keep in mind i have taken some entry level A+ CompTIA courses in school and have watched ALOT of videos on components and builds/building etc in these last few weeks as well as spent tons of time on pcpartpicker doing different possible builds.

But how hard do you guys think it will be for me to build it properly and working on the 1st try? My biggest concern is getting windows 10 on it properly and making sure all drivers are working correctly. I am also in doubts as to where exactly to plug everything in. Although i will be watching and reading some more specific detailed tutorials soon i would like as many suggestions and help as possible.

This build is meant to be up to date (late 2017/2018 components/parts) on everything and using high quality but also budget oriented parts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRLmHh

I do plan to add a 120mm AIO water cooler for overclocking at a later point.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 21, 2018, 09:53:15 pm
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 21, 2018, 10:08:45 pm
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
^. Although there are sometimes cheap prebuilts but generally their internals are lesser known or cruddy brands. Generally you either want to build it for less or buy it from a custom PC vendor and pay extra.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 21, 2018, 10:31:44 pm
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
^. Although there are sometimes cheap prebuilts but generally their internals are lesser known or cruddy brands. Generally you either want to build it for less or buy it from a custom PC vendor and pay extra.

Trust me i know 8gb is not enough overall but its certainly enough to get started. It will be my first priority to add 2 more 4gb sticks to get up to 16gb total after the initial build. 16gb kits are just to pricey upfront rn for my budget. I am getting all of these parts next week except the GPU because i am still trying to find one for cheaper or on a sale somewhere. But until then ill just run Vega 8 graphics for a week or 2.

And i have looked at tons of prebuilds recently and there is just NOWAY to get the quality of components as cheap as you can build it yourself. The system i am building would easily run 800-1000$ prebuilt and i am getting everything for just under $600. I am really excited to build it just nervous lol, do not wanna fuck anything up or put it all together and it not power on lol...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 25, 2018, 10:02:44 pm
Anyone have experience using Ebay to buy used or open box GPU's? They are way better priced and according to some research i have done they are actually pretty safe to buy apparently. I found an Sapphire rx580 8gb card for $100 which is an amazing price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on December 25, 2018, 10:04:53 pm
I did it a couple of times and never had issues. But you need to watch out, because there are scammers around. Usually they take posession of another account. If they only offer payment outside of ebay (manual bank transfer for example) do not buy it from them. Any transfers on ebay are safe, buyer protection will get you your money back if you get scammed.

Ebay is great. I managed to get a 2080ti for 300 euro less. It works just fine and was delivered just as fast as ordering it from Amazon for example.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 25, 2018, 11:35:02 pm
I did it a couple of times and never had issues. But you need to watch out, because there are scammers around. Usually they take posession of another account. If they only offer payment outside of ebay (manual bank transfer for example) do not buy it from them. Any transfers on ebay are safe, buyer protection will get you your money back if you get scammed.

Ebay is great. I managed to get a 2080ti for 300 euro less. It works just fine and was delivered just as fast as ordering it from Amazon for example.

Ok awesome i am very glad someone has personal experience with this and still thinks its safe! Ill definitely be buying my GPU from Ebay then, the prices are just unbeatable. Thanks for the response Olaf!

Should have my build completed within 1-2 weeks depending on shipping. Will be posting pictures and possibly a video then! ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 26, 2018, 12:59:35 am
Yeah just like I said before as long as you are careful with who you are buying from (rule of thumb to stay away from mining GPU's as they tend to be poorly kept) then the value difference is just way too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 30, 2018, 02:54:48 am
Got everything and finished the build today! Was easier then i expected. Everything went fine on the first try. This case was amazing to build in. So streamlined and easy cable management. Overall could not be happier! ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/mY2eMW6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ch09F5Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 30, 2018, 05:01:14 am
What GPU did you go with?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 30, 2018, 06:13:16 am
I haven't gotten one yet going to be getting one from ebay on wednesday. Likely going for a Sapphire rx580 8gb special edition. Pretty sure ill be able to get one for about $150 with a little luck.

I will say for now though i am very impressed with the Vega 8 graphics. I turned the vram up to 2gb and it basically performs like a GT 1030. Like i am getting 150-250 fps at all times in csgo. And mass effect andromeda is giving me about 40+ or so fps with medium-high settings and it looks GREAT. I also overclocked my ram to 2933mhz and Ryzen absolutely lllllllllloooooovvvvvvveeeeeeesssssss it!

Also found some cheap but nice looking rgb fans i am going to add this week to brighten up the inside and add some more airflow.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRBK74V/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A35YSX3GLRRA77&psc=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 04, 2019, 09:37:14 pm
Added the fans and an ADATA SU800 512gb ssd for more storage. These fans look amazing and have so many modes. Cant believe they are only $30. They also move a ton of air! :o Also went ahead and oc'd my ram to 3200 mhz. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcU0COMHoEk
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 04, 2019, 10:46:20 pm
Why not wait until you put a graphics card in it you pleb
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nero_ on January 04, 2019, 11:04:47 pm
so uhhh why is everything on the floor, do you like lay down whilst you play???
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 04, 2019, 11:14:57 pm
Why not wait until you put a graphics card in it you pleb

Waiting to get one for the right price and figure since i have an apu i might as well utilize it a little bit before i get the gpu. Plus i want to be done with all this cheap small stuff so that when i add the GPU it will all be done and will be the cherry on top. :P


so uhhh why is everything on the floor, do you like lay down whilst you play???

I just moved my mouse/keyboard and stuff down for the video/pictures. The pc is on the floor all the time however, at least until i get a bigger desk.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on January 23, 2019, 12:13:57 am
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
^. Although there are sometimes cheap prebuilts but generally their internals are lesser known or cruddy brands. Generally you either want to build it for less or buy it from a custom PC vendor and pay extra.

Trust me i know 8gb is not enough overall but its certainly enough to get started. It will be my first priority to add 2 more 4gb sticks to get up to 16gb total after the initial build. 16gb kits are just to pricey upfront rn for my budget. I am getting all of these parts next week except the GPU because i am still trying to find one for cheaper or on a sale somewhere. But until then ill just run Vega 8 graphics for a week or 2.

And i have looked at tons of prebuilds recently and there is just NOWAY to get the quality of components as cheap as you can build it yourself. The system i am building would easily run 800-1000$ prebuilt and i am getting everything for just under $600. I am really excited to build it just nervous lol, do not wanna fuck anything up or put it all together and it not power on lol...
Tbh 8GB is enough for most current games. With the whole price gouging thing still working its way through the market, I'd only buy 8GB for the moment then get more later if you're building a new system.
If you've got a Ryzen system 8GB of high speed will get you the better performance than 16GB of crap stuff. There are comparisons on Youtube of different RAM setups which I found super helpful.
Obviously if you're doing video editing etc you need a boat load, but for gaming specifically you get very little performance increase from 16GB over 8GB. Better to spend the extra money on a better GPU.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 02:50:28 am
For sure Tiki! I already upgraded to 16gb total 4 x 4gb sticks. Stock speed is 2666mhz. I had the 2 sticks overclocked to 3200mhz but after adding 2 more sticks 3200 wasn't stable and i went back down to the stock speed of 2666mhz and i get better timings plus its not a huge difference from 3000-3200mhz in terms of performance. Also after i added more ram and some bios updates i have the Vega 8 igpu using 3gb dedicated vram. So its performing really good considering. Also after upgrading to 16gb total ram my entire system was running even smoother and now the system has plenty of breathing room and i haven't encountered any errors, but when i was on just 8gb some games were running terrible like Battlefront 2 for example after upgrading to 16gb however it started running great. ;D Here is my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LymQvn

Still waiting on a GPU but ive got my sights set on a Sapphire RX580 8gb card. :D Should be able to get one on ebay for around $150. But ide like to get the special edition so might cost a little more depending. Also recently did a 10% oc on cpu and its running cool at 3.8ghz ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 03:07:24 am
Also as far as temps go, after my oc the temps constantly fluctuate between 28c-46c with the average being about 35c-40c while idle/web browsing or basic application use. Is it normal to change so much even while idle? Also the max temp i have hit is 74c while playing some heavier games. Is that good/safe?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on January 23, 2019, 03:37:01 am
Anyone here upgraded to the Nvidia 2000 series?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 05:14:24 am
Anyone here upgraded to the Nvidia 2000 series?

Talking about the RTX cards?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on January 23, 2019, 06:07:22 am
Also as far as temps go, after my oc the temps constantly fluctuate between 28c-46c with the average being about 35c-40c while idle/web browsing or basic application use. Is it normal to change so much even while idle? Also the max temp i have hit is 74c while playing some heavier games. Is that good/safe?

74c is good
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 07:31:43 am
Also as far as temps go, after my oc the temps constantly fluctuate between 28c-46c with the average being about 35c-40c while idle/web browsing or basic application use. Is it normal to change so much even while idle? Also the max temp i have hit is 74c while playing some heavier games. Is that good/safe?

74c is good

Ok ty :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Yete111 on January 24, 2019, 04:37:38 pm
Go big or go home
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 12:32:52 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on January 27, 2019, 01:36:35 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

all this needs is a vr kit  8)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 01:43:52 am
Yeah so you can obviously buy a PCI Wireless Adapter for the Vive but tbh I wouldn't use it much if even at all as the space in my "den" isn't big enough for it.

So I have just left it at that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on January 27, 2019, 03:12:55 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

SCAN, more like SCAM

Nice build though, you'll definitely get 144 fps on NW!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on January 27, 2019, 04:19:42 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

SCAN, more like SCAM

Nice build though, you'll definitely get 144 fps on NW!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 27, 2019, 04:28:51 am
Absolutely sick build. Although i would of personally have gone for Threadripper over 9900k, regardless still a monster. And the white theme will look sick. Also what GPU and case fans are you using? Also love the 1tb 970 evo its god tier.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on January 27, 2019, 04:59:09 am
Look at that waste of money
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Boa on January 27, 2019, 05:40:15 am
Look at that waste of money

lol brutal sanders
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 03:24:31 pm
SCAN, more like SCAM

Nice build though, you'll definitely get 144 fps on NW!
Implying I play NW ::)

I always buy from SCAN. Not always the best prices, you can find better deals elsewhere but their customer support is always the best.

Absolutely sick build. Although i would of personally have gone for Threadripper over 9900k, regardless still a monster. And the white theme will look sick. Also what GPU and case fans are you using? Also love the 1tb 970 evo its god tier.
GPU is on the list, second from the bottom. I always buy the top end cards and just keep them for around 5 or more years. So I bought my 980 when it was brand new in December 2014, so 4+ years is a good investment for it. Should get longer out of the 2080ti. I also want to upgrade to 1440p gaming so.

Threadripper isn't optimised for gaming, it would be a complete waste of money. Also if you go look at the performance comparison for the Ryzen 7 2700x (Not threadripper but 8 cores, 16 threads), they have the same core count, but the 9900k always comes ahead in games that use multi-core support. Quality over quantity. Remember its not always about core count etc.. Do your research into what you will use it for then compare between products. Threadripper would be useless for anything that is not a workstation use (compared to something of the same pricepoint that intel sells)

I would like to restart the Stream at some point, so I will recycle my i7-4790k and use it to stream over NDI and maybe replace it with a Ryzen later.

Here's a good example, one of many I looked at:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIGD9qJsaQ
[close]

Case fans, the View 71 comes with 3 White LED fans which will be enough. However, I haven't actually decided what fans to use for the Radiator, as you need Static Pressure Fans not Airflow fans (otherwise the air dicipates before it passes through the fins of the radiator)

Look at that waste of money

lol brutal sanders
Pointing out I have too much money isn't brutal ;)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 03:56:16 pm
I've decided on 6 of these fans now for the radiator:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-ml140-pro-led-white-140mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-fg-058-cs.html

Maglev fans do both airflow and static pressure. I only need 3 technically but I am tempted to do a pull-push config on the radiator to maximize the potential
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 27, 2019, 07:28:53 pm
I've decided on 6 of these fans now for the radiator:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-ml140-pro-led-white-140mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-fg-058-cs.html

Maglev fans do both airflow and static pressure. I only need 3 technically but I am tempted to do a pull-push config on the radiator to maximize the potential

I like the 9900k i am just a Ryzen fanboy now plus i personally feel Threadripper is more future proof and also has more potential overall. Also push/pull would be sick, please do it!

And 2080ti is crazy idk how i missed that at first lol. Awesome build.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 27, 2019, 08:12:28 pm
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

all this needs is a vr kit  8)

VIVE Cosmos comes out soon!!! I NEED.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 08:57:22 pm
Its nothing to do with future proof tbh, its just literally that Threadripper is just useless in a gaming build :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on January 28, 2019, 09:40:35 pm
@John Price
Tbh I'd get a cheap AM4 processor for now and wait for Zen 2. 9900k is atrocious value (But yeah Threadripper makes no sense for gaming). The watercooling at least solves the thermal problems with the chip to some degree.
Also from the "ethical" point of view buying 9th gen Intel just encourages them and justifies their pricing, even if you have enough money for it.
GL with it though, never had the money or balls to do custom watercooling myself.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 29, 2019, 02:54:59 am
Me neither, but I bought Warranty for all the parts so even if I break it on instalation they will replace it (Part of Scan's Guaruntee, hence why I always use them lel)

I agree with you for the Zen 2 Part, however to be honest with you I am just not that bothered I guess. I set my sights on the i9 and unless something really screams at me I'm not gonna bother.

Also I put a Ryzen 1800x in my Brothers PC and had a ton of teething issues (was expected as it was still new-ish) so I just said fuck it. But you are right its not great bang for buck at the moment.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Steinmann on January 29, 2019, 04:19:07 am
#50FpsSquad
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 29, 2019, 05:43:52 pm
I cant wait for Zen2!!! So happy that the new cpus will work on am4 boards still so i wont need to upgrade mobo for it! I plan to use my 2200G for a super budget build once i upgrade to the newest and best zen2 cpu when they release in a few months. :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 29, 2019, 05:55:25 pm
I did consider this, but I I am also extremely impatient........

Sue me :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on January 29, 2019, 08:16:57 pm
Well when the proletariat and I rise up, I know exactly who we're hitting first  ::)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on January 29, 2019, 09:20:44 pm
I did consider this, but I I am also extremely impatient........

Sue me :D

np, buy the i9 now

then buy the zen2 and give me the i9 for free
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on February 03, 2019, 01:18:30 am
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 03, 2019, 06:51:59 am
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1

Build your own. With a 2000 budget you could build a WAY better system then that.

Here is an example i put together:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFtd29

I was going to buy a pre-built and decided to build my own recently and i could not be happier.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on February 03, 2019, 12:19:16 pm
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1

Build your own. With a 2000 budget you could build a WAY better system then that.

Here is an example i put together:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFtd29

I was going to buy a pre-built and decided to build my own recently and i could not be happier.
I get that whole thing but I literally don't have any clue how to do anything like that with a PC
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nero_ on February 03, 2019, 12:49:41 pm
Your local pc store does for $40
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 03, 2019, 04:18:56 pm
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1

Build your own. With a 2000 budget you could build a WAY better system then that.

Here is an example i put together:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFtd29

I was going to buy a pre-built and decided to build my own recently and i could not be happier.
I get that whole thing but I literally don't have any clue how to do anything like that with a PC
Honestly mate, everyone says that until they actually try it. I built my first PC for £2000 in less than 2 hours and never had an issue. You can look at a guide on Youtube which will tell you anything you need to know. Manufacturers make things very easy for you, its more about the sequence in which you put everything together.

Also don't follow that list from Marceaux its shite.

Here's a better one. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JC8qMZ
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 03, 2019, 05:07:36 pm
Yeah go for Price's list (except with Win 10 Home instead of Pro).
Personally I'd go for a used 1080/1080ti instead of a new 2070, then you'll be way under your 2 grand budget. Not everyone's happy with getting used parts but with ebay it's actually really easy and they almost always take the buyer's side if there's anything remotely wrong.
Cases are a personal thing but there's a lot of variety in quality. There are some really good case reviews on youtube by Hardware Canucks that I'd recommend.

But yeah, building computers is easy, saves you a good buck too. Also means you'll have a way better idea of how to upgrade and troubleshoot should you ever need to.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 03, 2019, 05:29:30 pm
Yeah personally I use the features of Pro (I have a server rack at home with domain setup and everything so)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 03, 2019, 10:49:51 pm
Hey I like the build I put together in 15mins! I mean that aio is overpriced af and so are most of the parts but I just wanted to show with that budget how much better components he could get for the price compared to prebuilts. Also the cooler master h500m is an amazing case. Some of the best thermals on the case market. Could also go with h500p mesh. It will be my next case for sure.

And waste bro I was LITERALLY in your shoes a few months ago. With the help of a few YouTube guides that were simple I built my first pc with NO problems. And I couldn’t be happier with my choice.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 04, 2019, 02:07:34 am
Y'all clearly don't realize Waste is a United States M A R I N E and doesn't have the time to putting this together. In fact, you should be thanking HIM for HIS service by building the PC for him.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on February 04, 2019, 02:50:56 am
Y'all clearly don't realize Waste is a United States M A R I N E and doesn't have the time to putting this together. In fact, you should be thanking HIM for HIS service by building the PC for him.
:'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 04, 2019, 03:23:37 am
Y'all clearly don't realize Waste is a United States M A R I N E and doesn't have the time to putting this together. In fact, you should be thanking HIM for HIS service by building the PC for him.
:'(

If you have the time to plug up and play a new PC you have the time to build one. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on February 04, 2019, 03:42:59 am
Waste are you active duty or reserves?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 04, 2019, 03:44:02 am
Waste are you active duty or reserves?

active duty in the weeb corps
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on February 04, 2019, 03:55:55 am
Waste are you active duty or reserves?

active duty in the weeb corps
But reserves in the USMC
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on February 05, 2019, 06:08:52 am
So if I were to go with John Price's build I'd be pretty set ye?

One of the things I liked about that IBP pc I posted was the price, 2000 is the top of my budget ideally I'd be around 1500.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 08:20:08 am
So if I were to go with John Price's build I'd be pretty set ye?

One of the things I liked about that IBP pc I posted was the price, 2000 is the top of my budget ideally I'd be around 1500.

If you want to be closer to $1500 then go with a Ryzen 7 2700X system:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2knDsZ

But if you do not mind going closer to 2k then i think this build is perfect: ($1800)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbfbHh

Both systems would be monsters and very future-proof with the most modern parts possible for everything. They also both include everything you would need and i made sure they do not use rebates to get an exact price and kept all parts on Amazon/Newegg to limit shipping. ;D



P.S. Do not pay for windows up front. You can install and use it completely free with no issues, just pay for it later and use the extra money now for the system build. I am still on the free version of windows, pretty much only difference i notice is a small watermark that can be removed whenever i want to pay for it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 05, 2019, 11:42:41 am
Drop i9 for i7 and get 2080ti
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 05, 2019, 01:45:44 pm
If you want an uber gaming PC now ($1700):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9JLgw

If you upgrade the CPU when Zen 2 comes out ~Q3 2019 ($1400, then sell CPU and upgrade):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFthw6
DON'T get a 2700X unless you're actually doing video editing/streaming (let us know if you are, as you need more RAM and there are better CPUs for it). If you want cheaper now to upgrade, there's no reason for getting a 2700X, it's just a more expensive part to try to sell later. 2600 -> Zen 2 is the way to go.

Tomahawk for the motherboard, as MSI's motherboards are the best for overclocking atm in terms of VRM and capabilities. Price is not everything.
When looking at cases, having 3 fans in the front isn't always the best if they choke them by putting them 1mm from the glass front panel with no inlets. Personally some of my favourites are Fractal Design, like the Define R6, Meshify C and Define C. But again, personal taste.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 04:14:33 pm
Drop i9 for i7 and get 2080ti

I do not think you understand how expensive 2080ti is lmfao, there is no way to fit one into his budget. And if he tried he would end up bottlenecking it badly because the cheaper cpu etc couldn't keep up.

If you want an uber gaming PC now ($1700):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9JLgw

If you upgrade the CPU when Zen 2 comes out ~Q3 2019 ($1400, then sell CPU and upgrade):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFthw6
DON'T get a 2700X unless you're actually doing video editing/streaming (let us know if you are, as you need more RAM and there are better CPUs for it). If you want cheaper now to upgrade, there's no reason for getting a 2700X, it's just a more expensive part to try to sell later. 2600 -> Zen 2 is the way to go.

Tomahawk for the motherboard, as MSI's motherboards are the best for overclocking atm in terms of VRM and capabilities. Price is not everything.
When looking at cases, having 3 fans in the front isn't always the best if they choke them by putting them 1mm from the glass front panel with no inlets. Personally some of my favourites are Fractal Design, like the Define R6, Meshify C and Define C. But again, personal taste.

There is no reason for him to not get a i9-9900k right now when he can easily afford it if hes going over $1500 and its the current undisputed best gaming CPU. The intel build i suggested is superior to the one you just posted in literally every way and its barely more expensive. The tomahawk boards are considered budget oriented when compared to the gaming pro carbon boards. They are great boards for sure but the carbon boards are better. And when it comes to case if you are not considering the looks that much, you want the best thermals possible and the H500M/H500P Mesh are pretty much king when it comes to case temps. It also has pretty much all the features you could ask for in a high-end case.

And it seems he doesn't want to bother with it much after its built, that is why i suggested 2700X. Its a great CPU and if hes building a system to be done with its certainly better then the 2600 long term. But yes if he did want to upgrade in a few months going for a Ryzen 5 now would be good until the new ones release. And when it comes to mobos for ryzen i wouldnt say msi is the undisputed best. ASUS ROG boards are VERY good and some of the best quality available, and overclocking ryzen is a breeze on the rog b450/x470 boards. Also when it comes to RAM for Ryzen you certainly want to go for the fastest possible that is why i went with that new g.skill trident Z 3200mhz kit that is am4 certified and will give him the best speeds/timings possible right now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 04:18:08 pm
Yeah the 2080ti is insane, I was looking at it earlier when looking into a new PC.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 05, 2019, 04:32:26 pm
All this talk about getting a new PC is making me wish I was rich smh.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 04:34:05 pm
I'm not rich but I could afford an extra £80-90 a month or so so looking at a 2-3k PC.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 05, 2019, 05:07:22 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 05:10:23 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget is easy! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 05, 2019, 05:11:26 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 05:14:11 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.

AMD is KILLING Intel right now in terms of CPU's price to performance. And the next gen Ryzen CPU's are supposed to kill intel lol but we will see... NVIDIA graphics cards are certainly still better then AMD's but who knows now that the AMD NaVi gpu's are about to release? And if you truly are on a tight budget AMD really is the only good option.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 05:21:25 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
The last two PC's I had was Nvidia/AMD but I think I'll try Intel this time round.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 05:24:20 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
The last two PC's I had was Nvidia/AMD but I think I'll try Intel this time round.

Tbh bro you should wait and see what the next gen Ryzen cpus are all about, they will be releasing in a couple of months. :-*
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on February 05, 2019, 05:25:31 pm
Some of you have had multiple PCs while I've played on two laptops the last 7 years



Wack
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 05:35:17 pm
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I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
The last two PC's I had was Nvidia/AMD but I think I'll try Intel this time round.

Tbh bro you should wait and see what the next gen Ryzen cpus are all about, they will be releasing in a couple of months. :-*
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I planned to wait till around June to get a new one anyway so I'll give it a peak. Just having a browse around atm.

Some of you have had multiple PCs while I've played on two laptops the last 7 years



Wack
Laptops, ewww.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 05, 2019, 06:47:34 pm
Marceaux stop telling everyone the Ryzen's are so "Affordable" and "Good". Its very subjective.

When it comes to gaming performance the Ryzen's literally fall short EVERY TIME.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 08:52:29 pm
Marceaux stop telling everyone the Ryzen's are so "Affordable" and "Good". Its very subjective.

When it comes to gaming performance the Ryzen's literally fall short EVERY TIME.

They are literally Affordable and GOOD. To say otherwise is retarded. And Yes Intel cpus are better at gaming but for the price difference it isnt much.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 05, 2019, 09:14:22 pm
Literally just ignore everything marceux says because he fanboys over everything
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 05, 2019, 10:44:12 pm
Marceaux stop telling everyone the Ryzen's are so "Affordable" and "Good". Its very subjective.

When it comes to gaming performance the Ryzen's literally fall short EVERY TIME.

They are literally Affordable and GOOD. To say otherwise is retarded. And Yes Intel cpus are better at gaming but for the price difference it isnt much.
An 8700k literally costs the same as a 2700x and outperforms it by a mile. Same with a 9700k which is like $50 more.

You are just looking at the price and the core count then making assumptions. Don't mislead people. For that price I wouldn't call them good.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fartknocker on February 06, 2019, 12:12:40 am
Anyone wanna donate their old gaming PC so I don't have to use a laptop?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 06, 2019, 12:59:12 am
When the day comes..Price will help me pick out parts.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 06, 2019, 12:59:45 am
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.

AMD is KILLING Intel right now in terms of CPU's price to performance. And the next gen Ryzen CPU's are supposed to kill intel lol but we will see...

lmao every past AMD CPU gen was supposed to "kill" intel but it's always been all talk no walk so far, including the current gen
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 06, 2019, 01:04:42 am
People were going crazy for Ryzen until it actually came out and had a ton of firmware issues that should have been addressed way beforehand.

Almost as though they expect the only people that will buy those CPU's are people who only buy AMD Products, like Marceaux :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 06, 2019, 04:52:18 pm
People were going crazy for Ryzen until it actually came out and had a ton of firmware issues that should have been addressed way beforehand.

Almost as though they expect the only people that will buy those CPU's are people who only buy AMD Products, like Marceaux :)

It is a FACT that ryzen cpu's offer the best price to performance. Its also a fact they are better at multi-tasking and non-gaming tasks. And its also a FACT that AMD is currently killing Intel in terms of innovation. Clearly some team green faggots here. Look this shit up and stop talking out of your ass. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: VetroG on February 06, 2019, 05:02:00 pm
Man it’s just a computer.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Runepkyz on February 06, 2019, 06:11:16 pm
Man it’s just a computer.
NOU!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 06, 2019, 07:11:59 pm
Oh Marceaux you are a silly billy.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 07, 2019, 02:29:40 am
An 8700k literally costs the same as a 2700x and outperforms it by a mile. Same with a 9700k which is like $50 more.

You are just looking at the price and the core count then making assumptions. Don't mislead people. For that price I wouldn't call them good.
I mean an 8700k is 400 pounds vs 2700X for 300 (as per Amazon right now). The difference at 1440p is literally within margins for error. The 2600 is overclockable and 150 pounds, so for budget builds it's a fucking no-brainer, considering how much games benefit from a good GPU over a good CPU.

Anyway considering a budget of 2000, you may as well buy Intel, assuming you're just gaming.
Nvidea has better cards than AMD at present, although I don't think the RTX series is worth it at all, but again, if you have the budget you may as well.

2nd hand is the way to go personally, especially for GPUs, and can save you a couple hundred on a 1080ti, which is pretty even to the 2080 (other than the ray tracing gimmick).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 04:17:54 am
Couple more days for the GPU and the waterblocks/fittings to arrive and she is ready.

 
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 09:33:27 am
An 8700k literally costs the same as a 2700x and outperforms it by a mile. Same with a 9700k which is like $50 more.

You are just looking at the price and the core count then making assumptions. Don't mislead people. For that price I wouldn't call them good.
I mean an 8700k is 400 pounds vs 2700X for 300 (as per Amazon right now). The difference at 1440p is literally within margins for error. The 2600 is overclockable and 150 pounds, so for budget builds it's a fucking no-brainer, considering how much games benefit from a good GPU over a good CPU.

Anyway considering a budget of 2000, you may as well buy Intel, assuming you're just gaming.
Nvidea has better cards than AMD at present, although I don't think the RTX series is worth it at all, but again, if you have the budget you may as well.

2nd hand is the way to go personally, especially for GPUs, and can save you a couple hundred on a 1080ti, which is pretty even to the 2080 (other than the ray tracing gimmick).
Where are you seeing an 8700k for 400? I literally just checked and its selling for 330 or 340 :P Not a big enough difference to justify the lower performance imo.

Anyways, the discussion started out as a gaming one, but then as per most debates in general someone in particular shifted it the other way.

If an enthusiast needs a production CPU, they will buy one. Not go for the most budget thing there is.

I remember seeing a video I think where the 8700 literally beat the 2700x In Blender  everytime. If the Ryxen can't out render an i7 and it can't outgamr it I just don't understand what the appeal is.

Don't get me wrong though, I put a 2700x in my rendering PC so I'm not just an Intel fanboy, I just didn't agree with the argument being thrown out by Marceaux.

Agreed on the GPU opinion. However for Wastee first build I wouldn't recommend a second hand GPU just in case. 1080ti is cheap enough to justify buying it brand new for that budget.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 07, 2019, 07:06:43 pm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX80684I78700K-Core-i7-8700K-Processor/dp/B07598VZR8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549560957&sr=8-1&keywords=8700k
Most sites have them ~390, the cheapest I can find one (using PriceSpy no less) is like 365, no idea where you're getting 330-340.

Anyway, I'd have chosen the 9600k to compare it to, which is much cheaper (~250) and one of the best value for money CPUs for gaming. Considering how poorly most games utilize more than 4 cores, it's in a pretty sweet spot for the foreseeable future.

Remember that the Intel chips were released at vastly inflated prices (330-350 for the 9600k, 600 for the 9900k), the fact that they've come down so much in price is only because AMD was providing similar-ish performance for literally hundreds of pounds less.
If Zen 2 is even close to as good as current predictions have it then we'll have amazing value mid-range and content creation options, hopefully preventing Intel from gouging us too much with their 10nm chips, whenever they actually manage to make some.
In reality the real financial win for AMD is in the server market where they're clawing back masses of market share with Rome, giving them good long term income. PCs are small fry in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 07:46:44 pm
Yeah everything you said is true but i still feel as thouth we are missing the point but it's whatever.

Newegg EU has it listed for 340 btw, I had the wrong site.

9 pounds delivery though.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 07, 2019, 09:15:30 pm
So I am selling a bunch of stuff, maybe anyone here is interested in it, before I put it on Ebay.

I have 2x 1080ti, a 2080 ti and 3x 16gb of Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000mhz I want to get rid of.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 10:21:53 pm
What 1080ti and 2080 ti are they and what were you looking for each of them?

EDIT: I actually need more RAM for my rendering RIG as well.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 08, 2019, 03:42:28 am
So I am selling a bunch of stuff, maybe anyone here is interested in it, before I put it on Ebay.

I have 2x 1080ti, a 2080 ti and 3x 16gb of Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000mhz I want to get rid of.

How much you wanting for 1 1080ti? I legit might buy it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 08, 2019, 10:50:46 am
Suggest something, whatever you think its worth.


The 1080tis are MSI Gaming cards. I have used both of them for roughly a year in a SLI setup.

Here is the first one:
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And here is the 2nd one wrapped up, but its the same thing obviously:
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The 2080ti is a KFA2 OC. I have not used it at all, I have not even removed the wrapping from it. I bought it on Ebay, from a guy who also did not use it, because he decided to get a cheaper 1080ti instead. I decided to get a 3fan Zotac instead, so I never used it at all.

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And heres the ram:
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 08, 2019, 01:05:17 pm
I'll have a think about the GPU's. I just literally bought this:

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So as you can imagine I will need to find some time to justify those costs in my twisted head even if I am in need of more GPU's ::)

The RAM I will most likely take off your hands though. We can chat about that on Steam.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Chrisehh/
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 08, 2019, 06:23:48 pm
How much are you charging for the cards and do you offer an FSE forum member discount? ;-)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 08, 2019, 06:28:19 pm
How much are you charging for the cards and do you offer an FSE forum member discount? ;-)

Only donators get the discount XD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 08, 2019, 06:36:50 pm
So should I realistically aim for a higher 10series of cards like a 1070 or 1080 over my 1060, or just jump the gun and get a 2060?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 08, 2019, 06:45:12 pm
In the US you can buy second hand 1080ti's for like 4-500 now. That's 2080 comparable performance without the ray tracing  gimmick. Whereas the 2060 site between the 1070 and 1070ti range for the same price.

No brainer if you ask me :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 08, 2019, 08:13:17 pm
Yeah, get a used 1080ti.


How much are you charging for the cards and do you offer an FSE forum member discount? ;-)

Offer me something. I am not in it for the money.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 08, 2019, 11:10:44 pm
I’ll give you $100 for all of it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 08, 2019, 11:47:48 pm
I’ll give you 1 peso for all of it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 09, 2019, 12:45:14 am
Just because I don't need to make a profit selling this stuff does not mean that I have to sell it for an unreasonable price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 09, 2019, 01:29:49 am
$100 and I’ll buy BCoF?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on February 09, 2019, 04:01:00 am
Why so much for gaming pc's
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 09, 2019, 04:14:49 am
Why so much for gaming pc's

Because most people do not know anything about PC's so many places will just charge whatever they want and kids will still buy it. Also you can blame crypto mining for alot of the price inflation. Especially with graphic cards etc... :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 09, 2019, 04:16:52 am
Why so much for gaming pc's

Because most people do not know anything about PC's so many places will just charge whatever they want and kids will still buy it. Also you can blame crypto mining for alot of the price inflation. Especially with graphic cards etc... :'(

IRONSIDE PCS TIME TO DROP 5K
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 10, 2019, 03:12:57 pm
Okay, one of the 1080ti is sold.

I have something else though. I was looking through old stuff and I found a bunch of stuff. I have no idea if any of it works, my bet is that atleast half of the memory, probably the CPU and the motherboard, aswell as the blu-ray drive (I think it is a blu-ray drive) work.
Either way, the case should work fine. Tho, its missing all the screws from the sidepanels.

So, because I don't want to go through the trouble of testing any of this stuff, I am gonna sell it all for 100 bucks. Let me know if any one you guys wants it.
If it all works its definitely worth more than 100 bucks. Given that I made BCoF run on worse hardware, if this stuff works its probably not too shabby of a System.

A bunch of DDR3 Vengeance memory, 1600 and 2400mhz, 8gb sticks.
A MSI Gtx 680
Some kind of ASUS Blu Ray Drive
An ASUS P9X79 Motherboard
Sesame street blanket is NOT included.

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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 10, 2019, 03:30:15 pm
Okay, one of the 1080ti is sold.

I have something else though. I was looking through old stuff and I found a bunch of stuff. I have no idea if any of it works, my bet is that atleast half of the memory, probably the CPU and the motherboard, aswell as the blu-ray drive (I think it is a blu-ray drive) work.
Either way, the case should work fine. Tho, its missing all the screws from the sidepanels.

So, because I don't want to go through the trouble of testing any of this stuff, I am gonna sell it all for 100 bucks. Let me know if any one you guys wants it.
If it all works its definitely worth more than 100 bucks. Given that I made BCoF run on worse hardware, if this stuff works its probably not too shabby of a System.

A bunch of DDR3 Vengeance memory, 1600 and 2400mhz, 8gb sticks.
A MSI Gtx 680
Some kind of ASUS Blu Ray Drive
An ASUS P9X79 Motherboard
Sesame street blanket is NOT included.

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Damn..all I wanted was that Sesame Street blanket.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 10, 2019, 03:54:11 pm
Yeah I know. But I own it since I was like 4 years old, so it will stay here.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: UniversitasMetal on February 11, 2019, 04:40:52 pm
Would u take 200 usd for the other 1080ti
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 11, 2019, 09:34:12 pm
Make it 400, which is still 100-200 below the price they sell used nowadays.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 11, 2019, 09:35:54 pm
I have $175 (but in Venezuelan bolivars) and a mcdonalds gift card for $8.28 for the 1080. Final offer
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 11, 2019, 09:50:01 pm
I only take 1920s Reichmark.

123 Billion Reichsmark for a 1080ti please.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: UniversitasMetal on February 12, 2019, 01:30:54 am
Which country ur in? Cuz u gotta mail that shit to turkey. If ur ok wit dat i can pay thru bank transfer just pm your IBAN and SWIFT numbers  (of ur usd account) we can discuss if ur willing.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 12, 2019, 10:45:11 am
I just sold it, sorry :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on February 12, 2019, 03:48:28 pm
You already sold both 1080ti's?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 12, 2019, 05:53:33 pm
Yes
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 13, 2019, 11:31:12 am
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/monitors/gaming/Lenovo-Legion-Y27gq-Monitor/p/DD116LPY27G

Finally a 240hz 1440p monitor.

Pros:
- 240hz
- 1440p
- HDR
- G Sync V2 (compatible with HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.4 FINALLY)
- 0.5ms Response Time
- TN So no backlight bleed issues

Cons:
- $1000 for a TN Panel
- G Sync V2 (Module rumored to cost $500 on its own), could have been FreeSync or just have none at all.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on February 13, 2019, 09:25:26 pm
You didn't get the best price there

Gotem
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 22, 2019, 06:39:33 pm
Nvidia 2060 vs 1660? I wish I was not broke with all of these strange new cards coming out
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 22, 2019, 08:40:58 pm
1660 is a pointless card. Unless you can get a really good deal thats close to 200 you might as well just spend the extra 30-50 to get a 2060 with all the improvements that it comes with. Even if you don't use the RTX features.

Was looking at the Asus Strix 1660 Ti, its literally just a 1070 level of performance for the price of a 2060 which is more comparable to a 1070 ti. Like I said, no unless you get a good deal.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 22, 2019, 10:24:55 pm
1660 ti seems pretty out of place, there are so many better options around that price range. For example if your trying to save money just get a rx580 its performance is similar but half the price of a a 1660 ti. 1660 ti does perform better but for a budget mid-range card RX580 is the better deal on the price end. Its like they made the 1660 ti to compete with the RX590. But overall it just doesn't seem right, the 1660 ti should be cheaper if it really wants a solid place on the market imo. Some better choices would be Vega 56 now that the price has dropped to $260 or just pay a little more for the 2060. However i haven't actually seen any Vega 56's listed at that price yet but AMD said the prices will be coming down. Which makes me think the RX590 prices should go down as well which really makes things interesting. Vega 56 at $260 would be an amazing deal... If the price drops soon like they are saying it will, i am going to buy one myself.

Imo if you have the money for a 1660ti you should just get a little more and go with a rtx 2060 like Chriseh said. (Unless Vega 56 prices actually drop)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 22, 2019, 11:50:26 pm
I wouldn't buy a Vega 56 literally just because it seems to have shit tons of stability issues. Looked at 2 reviewers who compared it to a 1660ti today and it wouldn't even open some games.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 23, 2019, 12:24:06 am
I wouldn't buy a Vega 56 literally just because it seems to have shit tons of stability issues. Looked at 2 reviewers who compared it to a 1660ti today and it wouldn't even open some games.

That sucks if that is the case, I personally never looked into them that much due to the price always being like $400+. Ill have to do some research and see what the deal is with them.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 03, 2019, 09:36:49 pm
Going to be building this PC for my irl buddy. It will be his first ever gaming PC / desktop. He is on a very small budget and wont be looking to upgrade or do anything himself. He also lives pretty far away now so i want to give him the most complete build possible at first so he doesn't have to drive back and forth a lot for me to do upgrades frequently. His max budget is $500 with no exceptions. His day job is professional video editing for a news station which is why i went with the 2400G instead of a 2200G (8 threads+Multithreading and easy 4GHz OC). I also think the slightly better iGPU will serve him better long term until he decides to add a nice GPU. I plan to OC the CPU and iGPU for the best performance possible.

I also decided to go with 16gb ram right off the bat instead of 8gb because his iGPU will be using 3gb of his system ram for vram. And i noticed most games really struggle on these ryzen apu's with less then 16gb ram. I also could of left out the m.2 nvme boot drive but i really think its pointless to have a modern PC that isn't booting on a SSD. Its a real game changer and i want him to notice the speed instantly.

Personally i cant wait to build a MicroATX pc. Should look very nice and compact. Which is also why i went with a semi-modular PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKTMtg
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 05, 2019, 01:42:07 am
Solid build, lots of bang for very little buck.

Use PriceSpy (or local equivalent) to make sure you're getting all parts as cheaply as you can if budget is that much of a concern.
Also, put $10 aside for getting a 2nd hand Wraith Spire off eBay, it'll make a huge difference in what you can get out of the 2400G. I mean you can go for any cooler, but there's usually plenty of 2nd hand Wraith stuff going for cheap.
Alternatively you can get a much better cooler, but it depends on the money situation.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 01:53:28 am
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 05, 2019, 02:35:06 am
Solid build, lots of bang for very little buck.

Use PriceSpy (or local equivalent) to make sure you're getting all parts as cheaply as you can if budget is that much of a concern.
Also, put $10 aside for getting a 2nd hand Wraith Spire off eBay, it'll make a huge difference in what you can get out of the 2400G. I mean you can go for any cooler, but there's usually plenty of 2nd hand Wraith stuff going for cheap.
Alternatively you can get a much better cooler, but it depends on the money situation.

Thanks! :D Yeah ill have to look into some wraith spires. But tbh i have faith in the Wraith Stealth that is included.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Waste-Too-Cool on March 05, 2019, 11:11:18 am
Happy with how my new pc turned out :) building it was 10 times easier than I would have originally thought. Thanks Chriseh for the help! Sorry I didn't go with you this time Marceaux :( I'm sure your build would have been just as good!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 12:57:28 pm
Your welcome my guy, pc looks great!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 05, 2019, 01:59:44 pm
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.

I should get it for free for my loyalty and dedication to the 18blee
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 05, 2019, 05:22:32 pm
Happy with how my new pc turned out :) building it was 10 times easier than I would have originally thought. Thanks Chriseh for the help! Sorry I didn't go with you this time Marceaux :( I'm sure your build would have been just as good!

It doesn't make much difference, both would of been high end machines capable of pretty much anything. I am just glad you decided to build your own instead of buying a prebuilt. Congrats on the build man. Please post pics or something! ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 07:42:56 pm
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.

I should get it for free for my loyalty and dedication to the 18blee
somebody already paid the buy it now xD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 05, 2019, 07:51:50 pm
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.

I should get it for free for my loyalty and dedication to the 18blee
somebody already paid the buy it now xD

Why didn't you add a condition to the purchase that the buyer needs to join the 18e? wtf???
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 08:15:54 pm
Oh god do you remember when I needed Steam Levels as 18e got too big and I made the joining requirement 2 trading cards

LMAO
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 05, 2019, 08:20:06 pm
Oh god do you remember when I needed Steam Levels as 18e got too big and I made the joining requirement 2 trading cards

LMAO

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3owzWgSWlMRFL1NiOQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 06, 2019, 05:19:51 am
Left a window near my pc open last night with freezing temps coming in. My pc was chilling boiiiii (https://i.imgur.com/ItOn6Rp.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 06, 2019, 08:50:20 pm
11 degrees. Hahaha Nice
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 11, 2019, 04:41:23 pm
Worth?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 11, 2019, 04:42:37 pm
For that price you get a secondhand 1080 ti :/
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 11, 2019, 05:04:01 pm
Worth?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I would say its worth it. Not a bad price at all.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 11, 2019, 05:36:59 pm
Yeah, saw it but as always I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on the 2000 series. Figured I'd ask the 1337 PC meta masters first
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 04:21:11 pm
So what are y'all's experiences with buying from Ebay? I see 1070 ti's on sale for ~330 and 1080's for 380USD+ and I assume they're both massive upgrades over my 1060 but I've never bought second hand.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 12, 2019, 04:26:27 pm
GPU is never really a problem to buy secondhand. Generally if they work when they are purchased, then as long as they are not kept in AWFULL conditions, then they will work 5 years down the line.

So yes, go for it.

Don't go for a 1080 if you can buy a 1070ti as there is basically no difference after the smallest of overclocks.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 04:38:50 pm
GPU is never really a problem to buy secondhand. Generally if they work when they are purchased, then as long as they are not kept in AWFULL conditions, then they will work 5 years down the line.

So yes, go for it.

Don't go for a 1080 if you can buy a 1070ti as there is basically no difference after the smallest of overclocks.
and for OC'ing I just use MSI afterburner?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 12, 2019, 04:40:41 pm
GPU is never really a problem to buy secondhand. Generally if they work when they are purchased, then as long as they are not kept in AWFULL conditions, then they will work 5 years down the line.

So yes, go for it.

Don't go for a 1080 if you can buy a 1070ti as there is basically no difference after the smallest of overclocks.
and for OC'ing I just use MSI afterburner?
That or EVGA Precision X1. I use the EVGA one as its abit nicer to use tbh.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 04:52:59 pm
Sounds good. I think I might purchase this https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 12, 2019, 05:42:05 pm
Sounds good. I think I might purchase this https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1)

I honestly think you should wait man, word around town is that GPU prices are dropping steadily. Also i do not feel like a 1060 to a 1070ti is worth the upgrade. Why not go much bigger or at least do the next gen cards because you get the future RTX features and gddr6 etc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 07:40:22 pm
Sounds good. I think I might purchase this https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1)

I honestly think you should wait man, word around town is that GPU prices are dropping steadily. Also i do not feel like a 1060 to a 1070ti is worth the upgrade. Why not go much bigger or at least do the next gen cards because you get the future RTX features and gddr6 etc.
Yeah, after consulting my spiritual leader he said I should I just go big or go home. I'll probably just save my next few paychecks and aim for a high tier XX80 card.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 12, 2019, 07:46:18 pm
I mean depends what kind of person you are. Didn't need to upgrade my GTX 980 but I did anyway kek
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 16, 2019, 01:06:26 am
I managed to sell my i5 4670k and GTX 760 surprisingly easily, considering their age. 45 and 35 pounds respectively. Considering how cheap current gen stuff is I didn't think anyone would go for them. I'll sell the old DDR3 RAM off soon and I guess I'll try to sell the motherboard. Just have to figure out the best way to get rid of my old case.

Anyone got thoughts on NVMe vs Sata? For gaming I feel like it's not at all worth the extra cost from what I've seen of loading times.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 16, 2019, 01:50:36 am
I managed to sell my i5 4670k and GTX 760 surprisingly easily, considering their age. 45 and 35 pounds respectively. Considering how cheap current gen stuff is I didn't think anyone would go for them. I'll sell the old DDR3 RAM off soon and I guess I'll try to sell the motherboard. Just have to figure out the best way to get rid of my old case.

Anyone got thoughts on NVMe vs Sata? For gaming I feel like it's not at all worth the extra cost from what I've seen of loading times.

I have both and i think NVMe feels much faster. Here are the numbers on both of mine.

Gigabyte 256gb NVMe
(https://i.imgur.com/Ak5dw9I.png)

ADATA Ultimate 512gb Sata
(https://i.imgur.com/KXi9BnI.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 16, 2019, 09:56:17 pm
Also remember that a lot of modern game stream data from harddrives, so having a NVME SSD will help with that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 17, 2019, 06:57:59 pm
Amazing prices right now with the release of the gtx 1660 non ti.

Which should i buy?

Sapphire NITRO+ RX 590 8gb: $219
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202327&Description=rx%20590&cm_re=rx_590-_-14-202-327-_-Product

EVGA XC Ultra GTX 1660 6gb: $229
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487439&Description=Gtx%2b1660&cm_re=Gtx%2b1660-_-14-487-439-_-Product

Pretty sure i will go with the EVGA 1660 but idk for sure.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on March 18, 2019, 05:05:24 pm
why tho
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 18, 2019, 05:32:22 pm
why tho

Because i need a gpu fam, and i am trying to keep it around $200 max. I would just go with Vega 56 if the prices would come down some more. But we will see. It seems all prices are going to continue to drop now, so maybe ill wait. Its to hard to decide! :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 18, 2019, 06:15:57 pm
You would do better to go for a RX-590 than a GTX 1660.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 19, 2019, 01:19:18 pm
Surely you could get a 2nd hand 1070 or 1070ti for cheaper? 2nd hand prices have fallen a fair bit recently, I'd say it's worth having a look.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 19, 2019, 01:25:35 pm
Personally unless you are going for a brand new card, I wouldn't ever buy a GFX card new. Literally no reason to.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 19, 2019, 05:05:38 pm
Trust me i am all for a used card and planned to get one until these new price changes. I just really like new stuff. And the 1070's still seem to be about $250+ unless i want to try and win a bid war. But ide rather just buy it instantly. And if i was going to go closer to $250-300 ide probably just get the 1660 ti since its a tad better then a stock 1070. But again once you're at $300 you might aswell go for a 2060 or something. But idk.

I am leaning towards a 590 since it seems the price will stay low so i dont have to rush and buy it on sale. But then again an overclocked 1660 is basically a 1660 ti but only 6gb of vram. Decisions decisions... And i will keep my eye on the used market for a card of course.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 19, 2019, 09:33:20 pm
The sapphire rx590's are now sold out. I should of bought one when i had the chance, rip. Looks like ill probably end up with a 1660 or say yolo and pay extra for the 1660 ti. Unless sapphire restocks the 590's soon and keeps them priced at $220.

However i could just save myself a good bit of money and settle for a used rx580 for like $165. Im not really sure what the best choice would be. :-\
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 21, 2019, 02:26:45 am
To buy used stuff just look at auctions that are ending soon, if there's something you like wait until 1 min before it ends and put a price $10 higher. Honestly it's WAY cheaper than trying to instant buy on eBay.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 21, 2019, 02:35:37 am
To buy used stuff just look at auctions that are ending soon, if there's something you like wait until 1 min before it ends and put a price $10 higher. Honestly it's WAY cheaper than trying to instant buy on eBay.

About to try and snag this card then. Hopefully i win it!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-RX-580-8GB-Special-Edition-Excellent-Condition-/392258872200?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 21, 2019, 03:38:26 am
To buy used stuff just look at auctions that are ending soon, if there's something you like wait until 1 min before it ends and put a price $10 higher. Honestly it's WAY cheaper than trying to instant buy on eBay.

About to try and snag this card then. Hopefully i win it!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-RX-580-8GB-Special-Edition-Excellent-Condition/392258872200?hash=item5b54736388:g:4aEAAOSw8~hcS-vy&autorefresh=true

Thanks a ton for the advice tiki. Although i had to bid at literally the last second to win it i got it!!! Total with shipping was $150. Such a good deal!!!!!

Here is my finished build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4ms3b

Only thing i plan to do in the future is add a 1tb+ ssd for more storage. And i 100% plan to upgrade to Ryzen 3000 series R7 or R9 when they come out here soon hopefully.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 25, 2019, 03:41:44 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on May 01, 2019, 02:10:13 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on May 01, 2019, 06:36:53 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?

This is the completed build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HpkdnQ but yeah i am pretty sure everything in that video was in the list. The CPU comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is what i am using (its really good).

As far as performance i think its amazing, i can run anything on high-ultra at 1080p 60+ fps and can run most stuff at 1440p 60+ fps. However i would like a cpu with hyper threading and more cores for some more intensive editing and some really cpu heavy games. But the 2200G is really impressive for the price. However i plan to upgrade my cpu to a Ryzen 3000 series chip once they come out here soon. This system also handles streaming just fine although a better cpu would give even better results.

You looking to get a new system?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on May 01, 2019, 10:27:59 pm
I need a laptop for college (I'll be on campus most of the day now so a desktop won't be too accessible).

Anyone have a suggestion that's <$700?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on May 02, 2019, 01:42:43 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?

This is the completed build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HpkdnQ but yeah i am pretty sure everything in that video was in the list. The CPU comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is what i am using (its really good).

As far as performance i think its amazing, i can run anything on high-ultra at 1080p 60+ fps and can run most stuff at 1440p 60+ fps. However i would like a cpu with hyper threading and more cores for some more intensive editing and some really cpu heavy games. But the 2200G is really impressive for the price. However i plan to upgrade my cpu to a Ryzen 3000 series chip once they come out here soon. This system also handles streaming just fine although a better cpu would give even better results.

You looking to get a new system?
Yeah I need a new computer, I've been using laptops for the last 5-6 years of my life and it's about time I switch to a proper desktop. Though don't have a lot of money to invest in it and need a new one so that's why I was interested in your budget setup there. That's quite a nice setup for that price range which is basically what I was going for too. But yeah I might go with something like this build or very similar to it. Thanks for the answers!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on May 02, 2019, 02:57:36 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?

This is the completed build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HpkdnQ but yeah i am pretty sure everything in that video was in the list. The CPU comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is what i am using (its really good).

As far as performance i think its amazing, i can run anything on high-ultra at 1080p 60+ fps and can run most stuff at 1440p 60+ fps. However i would like a cpu with hyper threading and more cores for some more intensive editing and some really cpu heavy games. But the 2200G is really impressive for the price. However i plan to upgrade my cpu to a Ryzen 3000 series chip once they come out here soon. This system also handles streaming just fine although a better cpu would give even better results.

You looking to get a new system?
Yeah I need a new computer, I've been using laptops for the last 5-6 years of my life and it's about time I switch to a proper desktop. Though don't have a lot of money to invest in it and need a new one so that's why I was interested in your budget setup there. That's quite a nice setup for that price range which is basically what I was going for too. But yeah I might go with something like this build or very similar to it. Thanks for the answers!

For sure man i know the struggle i was in the exact same boat until i built this pc and its dreamy.

Steam me whenever and i got you with whatever you need.