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Competitive EU Events/Tournaments / Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
« on: January 16, 2021, 05:22:15 am »
Thanks for the tournament i enjoyed it all the way to our cursed final   :-[  8)

The only criticism i have is of the later start time. Even an hour earlier would've helped a little for those who got further into the tournament and have an early start the next day :'(

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Cavalry League / Re: Discussion
« on: November 15, 2020, 11:18:10 pm »
GG to the 4e it's always a pleasure to fight in such a difficult match and that was definitely one of the most intense matches I've ever played

Appreciate all the organisation around this from the admins as well so thanks bunches

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The Mess Hall / Re: ♞ Hussars Rated (EU) ♞ UPDATED 21-10-2020
« on: October 22, 2020, 12:56:28 pm »
Hussars Rated EU -  is list of active, competitive hussar players of Napoleonic Wars, based on their skill.

This is the only information that gives a description on how players are rated so it can be assumed that the list is based on players skill and nothing else such as teamwork or even their ability to fight heavy cav/lancers for instance. Things such as 15v15 hussar regiment fights all the way down to a single man on man 1v1 should count because of this. So me and Cage measured the ratings based on this while also looking back at lots of previous matches over the years up to today to make the best assumption we could. So I make a call out to fellow inputters what is your thought process behind this cause I'm seeing so many players that I know to be very skilled in both large matches down to 1 on 1's that don't make sense for the tier they are in. With so much match evidence on fse to look through and at the very least this 1v1 tourney from 2 years back: https://challonge.com/CavTourney i find it difficult to believe so many players aren't rated as accurately as they could be.

Another point that I think should be considered is having tier 2 not be so restricted. I know Ciiges only wanted a max numbers of players in tier 1 and 2 but personally I find there are a lot more players in tier 3 who deserve to be in tier 2 but just aren't as well as for tier 4 to 3 and tier 2 to 1. There might be some compromise here where instead of having 5 tiers, creating 6 tiers would help to more evenly spread players out so the differences can be seen without the vast majority of people being blobbed into 2 groups in the middle. It would make it a lot easier to define the gaps in the middle so those people who are more skilled but just not enough to be in the higher tiers can be shown as that instead of just being thrown into the cluster with everyone else. Just my 2 cents

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The Mess Hall / Re: ♞ Hussars Rated (EU) ♞ UPDATES THROUGHOUT CL 2020
« on: October 07, 2020, 11:07:59 pm »
There have been some slight changes due to 2 more players comming in to help with ratings. I have asked Stannis and Cage from the 8th for their opinion to even out the regimental imballance in the ratings. Very slight changes, nothing major.

I am completely and utterly offended and without a doubt believe that this is the biggest insult I have ever recieved. You would do well to remove this insult of calling me English and return my flag to Scotland as it should be. Otherwise let it be known that Ciiges is tier 2 confirmed and this biased list does not have my approval. I denounce Ciiges and his actions so he should apologise to me. If this apology is recieved and my flag changed immediately I retract my statement and believe this is the single most well thought out list ever made and the attention to detail is quite extraordinary. Until then however I wish you a below average day.

Edit: With an update to my flag this forum post is null and void I wish everyone a great day and thank you for your time.

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Yes, yes, it's so obvious I don't even have to mention it.

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This has got to be the worst reasoning I've ever seen

You're so self-convinced you're oppressed by all that you make up statements we never did just to keep playing the "everyone hates us and we're fighting for our rights" card.

Your reasoning exactly equals to me stating something like: "It's so obvious Stannis is Brazilian that he doesn't even have to admit it for me to know it"

(then again maybe he is)

What's the problem Erik? The debate was over with Stannis. Why do you want to bring your salt back? Now let me watch the match of the french team in soccer

There never has been salt it's just a non argument from Husarion since he hasn't shown any evidence(cause there is none).

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I'd like to remid that such tournament isn't about the numbers, but quality of the regiment lol. Seems like some of you forgot this.

We didn't forget anything: it was never about quality only and you know that. Back when regiments like the Nr6, the 5e, the Nr4, the 2Lr or the 14pk were still around or in a better shape, people would bring all they had and it was an important factor of matches, one of respect and balance for the opponent, by letting their men who trained and prepared for the match, play. When regiments weren't keen to follow that act of maturity and class, organizers made rules to enforce it (the first CCL season had a 15-men minimum attendence rule, the CNWL before that, 12 for L1 and 10 for L2, etc).

If you think the quality of the players you have is the only thing that matter then you don't lead a regiment but a team.
I know very well what am I doing and what am I leading. We did our best to bring as many as possible, the example of that is match against nr4 when we had 14/15 players. We played following the rules, and we did not break them. It was said that 10 is minimum, and we brought 10 or more, if the rules would say 12, we would be forced to somehow get another 2 ppl. I'm literally tired of ppl spitting on heavy only cos they are heavy, that's literally disgusting for me.

I don't think anyone has even mentioned heavies in the discussion man. Every point has been based on people and your regiment, not the class which you are playing.

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I'm of the opinion that it's a mix of both numbers and quality that matters for these type of tournaments since you want to have a competitive fight against good players(hence the quality) but also have good numbers that can make it difficult for even the best of individual players in nw to carry. Nothing wrong with having lower numbers if you can't bring too many like say in the 2Lr's case but if you can like with the 4e, nr4 and 8th I don't see why the DCL were different especially considering your 57 man steam group.

Ahalala I expected this criticism! At the risk of creating a drama, I will answer to avoid any misunderstandings! Simply it does not hold because among these 57 players, a large number of them also belong to the 15ph or 8pk. They preferred to play in other regiments. Especially when we had a very high attendance during our first game and only half of our players could play. Then, we could talk at length about Corentin who played the whole game except the last round since after 3 hours of games, you can get tired of it and I understand that. Indeed, I can quote Jean Garrigue, one of our best players who left our game along the way. I didn't give him that order, though. It is deeply disrespectful, in my opinion, to say that I have put someone on the spot just because you consider them unknown.


Well, i think above all that your criticisms are based on profound misunderstandings. It was a long and difficult game that gave us a lot of trouble and a desire for revenge. Anyway, it was a good game. A fine English victory on your part and an honourable defeat for ours.

The 57 man steam group wasn't criticism but rather an indirect question since of course the way your regiment is made up is much different compared to most others. Everyone was tired by the end of the match and with just one more round I would argue the exact opposite. Why would you go spectator when everything rests on the final round? A draw or a loss would be the result and I'm sure everyone on your team would've prefered a draw. The main reason I brought this up was because I was told by those in spectator that Corentin himself said that you told him to go spectator rather than him just being tired so unless a neutral party decided to lie to me I don't really see it being any other way. Players can leave during the game yeah I get that cause not everyone can guarantee 3 hours of the day to such a match but he decided to stay spectator which just seems odd, tired enough not to play the match, but not tired enough to leave and perhaps sleep?

I mean this is a discussion thread, I don't see how discussing things is drama.

Also Scottish, a key difference  :-*

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I kinda agree with Erik here in that regiments picking players and forcing their opposition to put large numbers of players to spectator is quite an unsporting thing to do. The main example that shown this to me was our final round against the DCL where DragonKing put Corentin to spectator, forcing us to balance when Corentin was sitting in spectator the entire time. I'm sure Corentin was dissapointed not getting to play but also poor Jesu on our side who had to go spectator. My words went right through DragonKing's head as well after pointing it out, he just wanted us to balance and fair enough it's part of the rules since they were at 10 men but it's certainly really unsporting and dissapointing having to choose someone who has dedicated a large portion of their night to go spectator rather than play. 1 round is 1 round but they still last quite a while against heavies hence our match being around 2 hour and 50 minutes long. Not that going to 10 men mattered since we won the final round so it was just a complete waste with less players getting to play in an otherwise fun and intense match.

Another point that would've been nice to discuss was the rule change to the points system. I personally agree with the new one but the way it was changed with only the input of around 3/4 people and then the conversation deleted without discussion from all regiment leaders isn't exactly very open especially since it can heavily change how the tournament works in the first place.

I'd like to remid that such tournament isn't about the numbers, but quality of the regiment lol. Seems like some of you forgot this.
Also, congrats to Stephan and Shadey! I wouldn't expect that cav community will expirience such a competition anymore, but fortunately I was wrong. Big thanks to the admins, referees and everyone who participated! See ya on ze Bannerlord in 10 years x)

I'm of the opinion that it's a mix of both numbers and quality that matters for these type of tournaments since you want to have a competitive fight against good players(hence the quality) but also have good numbers that can make it difficult for even the best of individual players in nw to carry. Nothing wrong with having lower numbers if you can't bring too many like say in the 2Lr's case but if you can like with the 4e, nr4 and 8th I don't see why the DCL were different especially considering your 57 man steam group.

Either way this tournament was enjoyable and I appreciate Shadey and Stephan for hosting it and everyone else involved! Also gg to the DCL for winning and our match personally I enjoyed it a lot despite the criticism above  :-*

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(Im starting to get used to say it  :-[)

Well played 8th, shame we couldn't offer a good challenge for you guys. You were just outmatching us completely tonight, good luck for your last match.

You guys are great sports and are still a great team so no worries man it was a good game. Honestly i was certain i was going to die in that 1v1 a true fright when you killed everyone around me  :o

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Cavalry Champions League / Re: [CCL - S2] Match Scheduling & Match Results
« on: September 30, 2019, 04:58:57 pm »
Yeah gg to the 4e! I always find the larger matches much more fun if a bit hectic mainly cause I always die in them. Then again it seems everybody does. Definitely preferable over the minimum 10v10 anyways

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Rasti.. Have to tell u the truth.. In the 8th u were our sexual tool as Stannis..

Wait, "as Stannis"? So I was Stannis? But if I'm out now and Stannis is still there, then who is Stannis now? And then what kind of entity is Stannis anyway, some empty shell possessed by spirits of different people, time by time?

are you a god

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Name: Stannis
ID: 837568
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083874650/
Hussar or Heavy Cavalry?: Hussar
Do you wish to be a Team Captain?: No
Do you agree with our rules?: Yes

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Regiments / Re: ♞ 8th King's Royal Hussars [EU]
« on: November 14, 2018, 09:58:59 pm »
still be more useful than actually having quack around

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rude

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Competitive EU Events/Tournaments / Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
« on: October 15, 2018, 07:07:46 pm »
I like the single-elimination format, it always brings amazing tournaments. Everyone got into the league-system a bit too much imo, it's always great to have shorter, more intense competitions like this cup. Thanks again for it.

Disagreed here. First of all, what do you mean by "shorter and more intense", this competition surely took a while and had maybe 2-3 tense matches, with very long intervals in-between.

Regiments disbanding/leaving + single elimination format = ruined tournament. League system works like insurance if the pool of participants changes when it's too late to make adjustments. In case of single elimination, there's not much you can do. Hence such oddities as, for example, my regiment entering the competition in semi-finals. We didn't play good enough to realize this scenario, but it still meant that the "cup" could have been won by a regiment that played merely two matches in its last stage. This shouldn't be an option, even technically.

Only bottom half of the 1st bracket went relatively smooth, with majority of the matches actually taking place. So only host's regiment enjoyed a wholesome tournament experience, which makes him look like kind of guy who invites people to a tea party and then pours a full cup of herbal delight only for himself, NOT vErY_nIcE!!!!


The competition took like 3 extra weeks for the semi-finals and the final so both sides could bring their strongest team. For some it is also a busier time of year, it's not just the format of the tournaments fault for those delays. For me personally I would rather see 2 top quality teams bringing their all to a fight if it extends the tournament instead of 1 team easily destroying the other due to a lack of key players and so forth, also more fun to watch. I enjoyed the league format of the CNWL but it did still take quite a while to finish. This tournament did take longer than expected and some regiments leaving was unfortunate but it did provide some great competitive matches and I think that's what matters the most. I do think the league format would work better in the future though.

With regards to the 8th having a fun wholesome tournament experience, it certainly was but remember the brackets were random so the lack of matches for some regiments could've happened to us as well. It was mainly just unfortunate.

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Competitive EU Events/Tournaments / Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
« on: October 14, 2018, 10:46:01 pm »
GG to the 4e was a fun and intense game today, I had alotta fun with this match and tournament overall :)

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