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The Lounge => Historical Discussion => Historical Reenactment => Topic started by: zac on April 17, 2013, 01:36:18 pm

Title: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 17, 2013, 01:36:18 pm
We all have this problem, we want the gear etc and 4 or so sutlers offer the same thing, but which one to choose. Basically this is a place where people can post their suggested sutlers and ask question about quality etc. List will be updated  after 5 years reenacting I've bought from many places, and i know many people here have also

WW2
http://www.thesutlersstore.com/ [AUS] Variouse Axis and Allies kit and uniforms
http://www.hessenantique.com/?Click=2591[USA] Heard good reviews
http://www.atthefront.com/[USA] Heard good reviews
http://www.gavinmilitaria.com/ [CHINA] Good uniforms, qualities greatly improved
http://www.ima-usa.com/[USA] Landrik's suggestion
http://www.mantheline.com/[USA] Landrik's suggestion
WW1
http://www.southerncrossmilitaria.com/[AUS] WW1 uniforms and Weapons
http://www.lawranceordnance.com/[AUS] WW1 uniforms and Weapons
http://corpsutler.tripod.com/[AUS]  Varied Turkish equipment and Uniforms

ACW
http://corpsutler.tripod.com/[AUS]  Varied Union and Confederate equipment and Uniforms
http://www.thesutlersstore.com/[AUS] Heard good reviews but havnt bought anything from him, small stuff
http://www.regtqm.com[USA]  munk buy's from here all the time there, they have everything you need
http://www.ss-sutler.com[USA] Very high quallity gear,  but they dont have everything
http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/[USA] Variouse hats
http://www.fcsutler.com/[USA] as long as you stay far away from the economy grade stuff
http://www.wwandcompany.com/[USA] High Quality and Museum porn.
http://www.cjdaley.com/[USA] high quality work. Also for well known for their trouser
http://www.stonybrookcompany.com/[USA]high quality work. Also for well known for their trouser
http://www.stonybrookcompany.com/[USA]  ^
http://www.njsekela.com/[USA] Uniforms/Patterns, expensive
http://missouribootandshoe.tripod.com/index.html[USA]leather gear for ACW, and nice knapsacks.
http://www.jarnaginco.com/[USA] pretty big sutler, does French and Indian war all the way to the Civil War.
http://www.dellsleatherworks.com/[USA] High quality Leatherwork and some brass
http://www.robertlandhistoricshoes.com/servlet/StoreFront[USA]Many good review to get Brogans
http://www.ldhaning.com/[USA]Great Leathers for good price 
http://www.lederarsenal.com/[Germany] Based in Germany, good quality, AC Recommended.
Napoleonic
http://corpsutler.tripod.com/[AUS]  Varied Napoleonic equipment and Uniforms
http://www.thesutlersstore.com/[AUS] Heard good reviews but havnt bought anything from him, small stuff
http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/[USA] Variouse hats

AWI-SYW
https://www.facebook.com/MrAWKirkHatter [USA]
https://www.facebook.com/LineOfMarch [USA]
http://www.jas-townsend.com/ [USA] Great place for varied accouterments and whites, dont by clothing
http://www.gggodwin.com/[USA] Great place for varied accouterments,headgear and uniforms
http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/[USA] Variouse hats

[b'Medieval[/b]


[France]
http://www.marchand-medieval.com/medieval/- Awesome, awesome guy. everything is hand made, done correctly for the period, really recommend him.


[AUS]
- http://www.medievalshoppe.com.au/- mid range stuff, never bought from them, seems like decent prices.

[AUS]- http://www.medieval-fightclub.com/- Try NOT to buy from these guys, their prices are low for a reason. Not very safe stuff.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 17, 2013, 01:46:38 pm
I would like to add these 3 for ACW

http://www.regtqm.com (http://www.regtqm.com)  [USA] i buy from here all the time there, they have everything you need
http://www.ss-sutler.com (http://www.ss-sutler.com)  [USA]  Very high quallity gear,  but they dont have everything
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 17, 2013, 01:53:30 pm
I would like to add these 3 for ACW

http://www.regtqm.com (http://www.regtqm.com)  [USA] i buy from here all the time there, they have everything you need
http://www.ss-sutler.com (http://www.ss-sutler.com)  [USA]  Very high quallity gear,  but they dont have everything


added after stuffing it up twice :)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: MichaelJ.Caboose on April 17, 2013, 01:57:54 pm
Here is a great place for hats, they do multiple time periods 17th century all the way to late 19th century.

http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/  (http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/)



Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 17, 2013, 02:06:45 pm
Here is a great place for hats, they do multiple time periods 17th century all the way to late 19th century.

http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/  (http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/)

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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 17, 2013, 02:30:10 pm
http://www.fcsutler.com (http://www.fcsutler.com)  [USA]  as long as you stay far away from the economy grade stuff
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 17, 2013, 02:30:49 pm
Here is a great place for hats, they do multiple time periods 17th century all the way to late 19th century.

http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/  (http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/)

there really good, if not the best
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: König on April 17, 2013, 02:42:21 pm
I can vouch for At the Front. I've ordered there a couple times and each time I got my stuff pretty quickly, and in good order. Most of his stuff is also high quality for a good price. His rants are also pretty entertaining...
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 17, 2013, 02:43:43 pm
I can vouch for At the Front. I've ordered there a couple times and each time I got my stuff pretty quickly, and in good order. Most of his stuff is also high quality for a good price. His rants are also pretty entertaining...

ye, i got a lecture on the German uniform colours and how they varied from him :)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 17, 2013, 02:53:13 pm
I can vouch for At the Front. I've ordered there a couple times and each time I got my stuff pretty quickly, and in good order. Most of his stuff is also high quality for a good price. His rants are also pretty entertaining...

ye, i got a lecture on the German uniform colours and how they varied from him :)

thats great. a friend of mine whos hobby is 15mm scale ww2 figures once gave me a lecture on painting German uniform colours :)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 17, 2013, 10:49:52 pm
Yo, for ACW

High Quality and Museum porn.

Wambaugh, White and Company http://www.wwandcompany.com/ (http://www.wwandcompany.com/) 

Chris Daley http://www.cjdaley.com/ (http://www.cjdaley.com/)   

Both are high quality work.

Also for well known for their trouser

Stony Brook Company http://www.stonybrookcompany.com/ (http://www.stonybrookcompany.com/)   

All based in USA.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 17, 2013, 11:04:25 pm
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 17, 2013, 11:27:19 pm
we got a great list going here!!!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Landrik on April 18, 2013, 07:38:25 am
Hessen is also a great place to nab up some Imperial German stuff for WWI.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 18, 2013, 04:35:22 pm
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH

http://www.njsekela.com/OSCommerce/catalog/index.php?osCsid=dpitjfud831o58b8hou0kd0l82 (http://www.njsekela.com/OSCommerce/catalog/index.php?osCsid=dpitjfud831o58b8hou0kd0l82)

Expensive but does great work. For Ex. He use some wild alaskan spider silk to make suspenders XD Based in USA as well
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 18, 2013, 04:46:30 pm
added,,must say nice list
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 18, 2013, 04:49:04 pm
added,,must say nice list
 

yeah we do have a nice list. I enjoyed surfing through the links.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 18, 2013, 05:37:49 pm
added,,must say nice list
 

yeah we do have a nice list. I enjoyed surfing through the links.

same
its cool to see the gear and uniforms of other eras
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: MackCW on April 22, 2013, 04:31:14 pm
Too bad Tim Allen no longer does hats. I have two of his and they are the best slouch hats ever.

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Pardon the dust but notice the hand stiching here. It was based off a original in Troianis collection.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 01:48:24 am
Damn Mack, thats a good looking slouch hat. Loving the hand sitches. 

Also Zac,

I got two more nice quality work.

http://www.dellsleatherworks.com/ (http://www.dellsleatherworks.com/) - High quality Leatherwork and some brass

http://www.robertlandhistoricshoes.com/servlet/StoreFront (http://www.robertlandhistoricshoes.com/servlet/StoreFront) Many good review to get Brogans

http://www.ldhaning.com/ (http://www.ldhaning.com/)  - Great Leathers for good price 

http://www.lederarsenal.com/ (http://www.lederarsenal.com/) = Based in Germany, good quality, AC Recommended.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: MichaelJ.Caboose on April 23, 2013, 03:15:06 am
I got some more also, both are in USA.

http://missouribootandshoe.tripod.com/index.html (http://missouribootandshoe.tripod.com/index.html)- pretty much all leather gear for ACW, and from what I hear pretty nice knapsacks.

http://www.jarnaginco.com/ (http://www.jarnaginco.com/) - pretty big sutler, does French and Indian war all the way to the Civil War.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 23, 2013, 06:21:52 am
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 06:28:04 am
Hey Zac, nice avatar. I like it.  ;D
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 23, 2013, 06:31:07 am
Thx,, it was from the local paper, still waiting for better images to come out :)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 06:38:00 am
Thx,, it was from the local paper, still waiting for better images to come out :)


Local paper huh? Let me guess, "Local Australian Teen Impersonate a French Soldier reported missing after mysterious Dalek-backed ambush"  ?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 23, 2013, 06:40:47 am
Thx,, it was from the local paper, still waiting for better images to come out :)


Local paper huh? Let me guess, "Local Australian Teen Impersonate a French Soldier reported missing after mysterious Dalek-backed ambush"  ?

xD
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 23, 2013, 05:00:14 pm
Duvall Leatherwork

He makes some of the best leather gear out there. Nice guy too. Can be a bit expensive but you get what you pay for.

http://www.duvallleatherwork.com/product-category/historic-reproductions/



Tim Bender

Makes very nice hats and, in my opinion, the best 1858 dress hat(hardee) out there. His customer service is the BEST. I can not stress that enough.

http://www.benderhats.com/
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 23, 2013, 05:38:43 pm
I own gear from a lot of these sutlers so I thought I would share with you guys. (I am in the process of upgrading/replacing my old gear so most of this stuff is pretty new.)

Tim Bender: (1858 Dress Hat)
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side
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front
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inside
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L.D. Haning: (cartridge box and sling)
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Dell's Leather Works: (Eagle plate, Belt, Canteen and sling)
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cap pouch is from L.D Haning
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Dell's eagle plate was a very high quality mold. Much better than the old one I had.

New
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Old
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Canteen
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Robert Land:
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Left is Regtqm and right is Land
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CJ Daley: (Sack coat and great coat)
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Sack Coat
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8101%2F8599309442_96a013f12b_b.jpg&hash=5fb8c56fd4b11df050871098fb82cf5e)

Hand sewn button holes
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Hand Sewing on the inside too
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Great Coat
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The lining
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My hat: (I don't know who made this hat but it resembles the mcdowell caps made by Brad Keune.)
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 05:50:41 pm
I like what Dordak is doing here. I think I will share some works of Wambaugh and NJ Sekela later.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 23, 2013, 06:54:10 pm
I could be mistaken, but wasn't the Hardy hat designed to have one side held up by a badge?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 23, 2013, 07:06:16 pm
I could be mistaken, but wasn't the Hardy hat designed to have one side held up by a badge?

Some were issued with the brass and stuff and some were issued separately. Some soldiers preferred to wear the brass and stuff. Some did not.
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Some of these guys appear to have both sides down(7th Wisconsin)
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I want to know why this guy had a revolver  lol
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more examples(a lot of these guys have modified their hats to look different.)
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(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/292975_490458567649468_1926004874_n.jpg)
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 23, 2013, 08:33:21 pm
For Ex. He use some wild alaskan spider silk to make suspenders XD Based in USA as well

He uses the silk from the rare Albino Tibetan Moose Spider coated in Alaskan Parakeet milk. It's extremely hard to extract the silk from the antlers but it's worth it because it makes the strongest suspenders in the world. :P
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 08:35:52 pm
For Ex. He use some wild alaskan spider silk to make suspenders XD Based in USA as well

He uses the silk from the rare Albino Tibetan Moose Spider coated in Alaskan Parakeet milk. It's extremely hard to extract the silk from the antlers but it's worth it because it makes the strongest suspenders in the world. :P
 

You don't say? I have heard those antlers are also used in Soviet Union Nuclear Warhead.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 23, 2013, 08:37:54 pm
For Ex. He use some wild alaskan spider silk to make suspenders XD Based in USA as well

He uses the silk from the rare Albino Tibetan Moose Spider coated in Alaskan Parakeet milk. It's extremely hard to extract the silk from the antlers but it's worth it because it makes the strongest suspenders in the world. :P
 

You don't say? I have heard those antlers are also used in Soviet Union Nuclear Warhead.

The only known photograph of a Tibetan Moose Spider
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 08:39:59 pm
For Ex. He use some wild alaskan spider silk to make suspenders XD Based in USA as well

He uses the silk from the rare Albino Tibetan Moose Spider coated in Alaskan Parakeet milk. It's extremely hard to extract the silk from the antlers but it's worth it because it makes the strongest suspenders in the world. :P
 

You don't say? I have heard those antlers are also used in Soviet Union Nuclear Warhead.

The only known photograph of a Tibetan Moose Spider
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8519%2F8676198788_bcec081e63.jpg&hash=504e10840e72348db12f89c8bec31a77)
 

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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 23, 2013, 10:09:55 pm
It could be they kept the brass plate for guard dress. Keeping it nicely shining.

The pistol was simply brought from home, which many soldiers did. Especially at the start of the war.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 10:36:00 pm
It could be they kept the brass plate for guard dress. Keeping it nicely shining.

The pistol was simply brought from home, which many soldiers did. Especially at the start of the war.
   

Brass plate? Anyway, that is possible for some soldier but bear in mind. Non regulated Army regiments have to pay for these brass. They weren't issued freely like the Army does. I have heard some commanders bought some bunch for his regiment but still, Volunteer regiments was like 80% of the Union Army and they had to pay for the brass. So they probably would rather spend their money on something useful.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 23, 2013, 10:39:24 pm
Napoleonic soldiers were 'issued' nothing, they were just forced to pay for them.  ::)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 10:44:42 pm
Napoleonic soldiers were 'issued' nothing, they were just forced to pay for them.  ::)


Lovely.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 23, 2013, 10:48:45 pm
Here's a list which shows all expensive everything was. It's in Dutch, because it was for Dutch soldiers in 1814-15.

I'm still trying to find out what this was in todays money.
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 10:51:19 pm
Interesting information you got. I recognize some german terms.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 23, 2013, 10:57:32 pm
To give an idea on how expensive these things were:

An infantry coat was 10 Guldens and 10 stuivers - A regular soldier earned 91 Gulden and 5 stuives a year.

They often sent letters back home to ask for money. Especially when the army was camped somewhere for a long time, things got really expensive.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 23, 2013, 11:50:18 pm
Good Quality Sutler

http://www.myrtle-avenue.com/index.htm (http://www.myrtle-avenue.com/index.htm)

Limited choice but heard alot of good review of the product quality.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 23, 2013, 11:58:44 pm
Napoleonic soldiers were 'issued' nothing, they were just forced to pay for them.  ::)

wow.. i never new that. I asume it was taken out of there paycheck, and then some more by there own money.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 24, 2013, 06:55:17 am
British troops where issued some items without the need to pay,

these are;
shirt wasitcoat breeches canteen haversack cap
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 24, 2013, 08:30:08 am
Napoleonic soldiers were 'issued' nothing, they were just forced to pay for them.  ::)

wow.. i never new that. I asume it was taken out of there paycheck, and then some more by there own money.
Yes, exactly, it was taken out of their pay - sometimes they weren't paid for months because they were in so much debt. Food took most of their pay as well, so you barely had anything left when left the army.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 24, 2013, 04:27:18 pm
Napoleonic soldiers were 'issued' nothing, they were just forced to pay for them.  ::)

wow.. i never new that. I asume it was taken out of there paycheck, and then some more by there own money.
Yes, exactly, it was taken out of their pay - sometimes they weren't paid for months because they were in so much debt. Food took most of their pay as well, so you barely had anything left when left the army.

ACW billy yanks were issued most of everything but if it was lost you had to pay it for yourself. enlisted soldiers in the United States Army had a clothing allowance of: two caps; one hat; one fatigue forage cap; one pompon; one eagle and ring; one cover; two coats; three pairs of "trowsers;" three flannel shirts; three pairs of flannel drawers; four pairs of bootees; four pairs of stockings; one great coat; and one blanket.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 24, 2013, 05:19:08 pm
They were issued a BLANKET?

Lucky bastards. What's next? TENTS?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 24, 2013, 05:24:56 pm
They were issued a BLANKET?

Lucky bastards. What's next? TENTS?

well they got one half, of a dog tent that they would make with there battle buddy like this
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 24, 2013, 05:55:54 pm
They were issued a BLANKET?

Lucky bastards. What's next? TENTS?


Lucky Union Bastard. 

The Rebs mostly got their stuff homemade.   :P   

I have once heard that the Confederate capital in Alabama once got rid all of the carpet to create blankets for troops.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 24, 2013, 07:50:04 pm
They were issued a BLANKET?

Lucky bastards. What's next? TENTS?


Lucky Union Bastard. 

The Rebs mostly got their stuff homemade.   :P   

I have once heard that the Confederate capital in Alabama once got rid all of the carpet to create blankets for troops.

While we're on the topic of homemade stuff... I just made myself a nice little poke sack. (hand sewn)  8)
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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on April 24, 2013, 08:59:50 pm
My entire cav kit will be home-made (except for the leather).

The leatherwork alone costs me around 350,- euro, and theres about 50-75 euro worth of brass and iron on top of that.

Not counting the leather for the pants (65,-) and shako (+\-200).
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 25, 2013, 01:07:41 am
Just got my sack coat from a pard. It was made  by N.J. Sekela, great quality. Will share pic to show Sekela's quality for those who are interested in Sekela.   


Edit: Here is my Sekela Sack Coat, bear in mind, i bought it used off from a Pard.

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Most damnedest thing happened to me is when i reach in the pocket, I got a wooden comb, a dollar, and a manual for Sentry/Guard left in pockets.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Millander on April 25, 2013, 01:19:53 am
Where can I pick up a slouch at an economic price.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 25, 2013, 01:27:01 am
like 50$  (fall creek sutlery)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Dordak_the_Lost on April 25, 2013, 02:00:10 am
Where can I pick up a slouch at an economic price.

Unless you absolutely must have it for an event coming up, I would recommend saving up and buying a good one instead of a cheap one. It will look better and last longer.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 25, 2013, 02:01:46 am
Where can I pick up a slouch at an economic price.
 

Like Munk said, Fall Creek. I got one from there, made by dirty billy but its economy materials. Let say best of the mainstream quality that is. 

But Dordak's suggestion is abetter investment.  Sekela, Tim Bender, and Dirty Billys. They got fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 25, 2013, 02:18:50 am
i dont know much 'bout slouch's.  i have always found them to dandy do for me  :D
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 25, 2013, 03:03:35 am
i dont know much 'bout slouch's.  i have always found them to dandy do for me  :D


I love slouch hats, they look awesome. But my heart belong to 1858 Dress Hat.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Millander on April 25, 2013, 10:28:17 pm
i dont know much 'bout slouch's.  i have always found them to dandy do for me  :D


I love slouch hats, they look awesome. But my heart belong to 1858 Dress Hat.
Sadly my impression wont allow be to wear it Dx
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 25, 2013, 11:08:17 pm
i dont know much 'bout slouch's.  i have always found them to dandy do for me  :D


I love slouch hats, they look awesome. But my heart belong to 1858 Dress Hat.
Sadly my impression wont allow be to wear it Dx


What a tragic statement I ever heard on the forum. Good God.  XD.  You will have good chance to use it at Gburg I believe.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on April 25, 2013, 11:28:45 pm
millander you going as 20th maine for gettysbug right
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Millander on April 30, 2013, 10:22:29 pm
Where would be a good place to buy a forage cap llike this one?
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This is my current one and I dont dig the way the disk is diped in. Also I have since gotten a haircut. I dont see many forage caps that look like this. Is this a special type?
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Do you guys think that this would be what im looking for? http://www.regtqm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HAT-1
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on May 01, 2013, 12:47:42 am
i have that hat and i like it, i bought it from regimetal
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Onii on July 05, 2013, 08:16:54 am
A little necro here but oh well.
Anyone knows a good place to buy ACW kepis in europe?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: TomaHawkAU on July 05, 2013, 02:04:22 pm
www.militaryheritage.com [CAN] they do top-knotch Napoleonic and revolution gear from swords and muskets to buttons and belt plates, the quality is amazing but it comes at a high price.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on July 05, 2013, 02:16:41 pm
http://www.re-enactmentshop.com/webshop/american-civil-war/headgear

Dunno how accurate he is though. Seems to be pretty basic simple stuff.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Landrik on July 08, 2013, 10:51:40 am
Hey, found some more good quality sutlers.

(UK) (WWI and WWII German) http://www.richardaunderwood.com/index.php
HIGH QUALITY REPROS, but come with the price tag for it. Simply amazing stuff.

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(USA) (WWII German) http://www.lostbattalions.com/
Also really great repros, but a non-standard ordering system if you can deal with it. Really high attention to detail in the reproductions. Call it being a stitch nazi. :P

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(USA) (WWI and WWII: Multiple Countries) http://reprorations.com/index.htm
Basically all in the name. Reproduction rations at a decent price which make great pocket litter and something to put in your living history display... or eat on the battlefield! Much better than Mickey D's in the truck back at the lot, that's for sure!

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Also in the US, there's Soldat FHQ. They do all kinds of stuff, but most notable are their WWII German Erkennungsmarke (ID disk) and Soldbuch (paybook) personilization. A bit pricey, but looks amazing.

http://www.soldat.com/soldbucher.htm

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Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on August 02, 2013, 11:19:15 am
https://www.facebook.com/BeauregardsTailor (https://www.facebook.com/BeauregardsTailor)

Really make high quality, hand stitched uniforms, He does Federal but specialize in Confederates, he also does Civilians.

I really love his reb stuff, there are like 230 pictures of various material and design. My favorite of all got to be 7th Florida Communition Jacket.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on August 02, 2013, 06:51:29 pm
its really good stuff

http://beauregardstailor.com/#  (http://beauregardstailor.com/#)

also he has a website besides fb
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on August 03, 2013, 04:59:07 am
*cries* will put up later
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Mr. Kochi on August 17, 2013, 09:26:01 am
A little stupid to add, but if anyone's in Argentina or Uruguay, there's a gunsmith that's currently working on the Napoleonic and medieval eras.

http://www.tierracelta.com.ar/ (http://www.tierracelta.com.ar/)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Captain America on September 18, 2013, 11:45:43 am
Anybody know where I can get good quality WWII Soviet kit? Having trouble finding anything worth getting.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on September 18, 2013, 12:26:51 pm
Anybody know where I can get good quality WWII Soviet kit? Having trouble finding anything worth getting.


Contact Munk as you see him above. He is in 193rd Rifles. I bet he know where.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on October 24, 2013, 10:04:29 am
Anyone has a idea where to find a 1812 French uniform in USA?  One listed by Zachary is in Aus, quite a international shipping.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on October 24, 2013, 10:13:33 am
Ask that person though, he ships all over the world alot more than he does in Australia
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on October 24, 2013, 10:28:54 am
Ill take a look into his pricing. Though international are notorious for being high.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Mr T on October 24, 2013, 07:00:10 pm
Anyone has a idea where to find a 1812 French uniform in USA?  One listed by Zachary is in Aus, quite a international shipping.

Oooh you starting Napoleonic are ye?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on October 25, 2013, 06:10:26 pm
Anyone has a idea where to find a 1812 French uniform in USA?  One listed by Zachary is in Aus, quite a international shipping.

Oooh you starting Napoleonic are ye?


Yeah, going to try it with loaners first before making any serious purchase. I have been in contact with 21e commander in US section. Woot woot
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Mr T on October 25, 2013, 07:42:23 pm
Anyone has a idea where to find a 1812 French uniform in USA?  One listed by Zachary is in Aus, quite a international shipping.

Oooh you starting Napoleonic are ye?


Yeah, going to try it with loaners first before making any serious purchase. I have been in contact with 21e commander in US section. Woot woot


Woooo! Awesome! :D

JE PASSE QUAND MEME!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on October 26, 2013, 12:09:23 am
ORANJE BOVEN!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Landrik on October 26, 2013, 02:16:01 am
Hey Deo, I have a friend in the 21e named Patrick Hubble. Pretty swag guy totes mcgoats rad yolo fo sho tho u kno
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on October 26, 2013, 01:55:07 pm
XD

Is he in Midwest company?

Also, taking part of French Revolutionary reenacting pre first consul.
Totally going to rock the striped trouser.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on October 26, 2013, 02:00:22 pm
the infamous striped pants
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Landrik on October 26, 2013, 10:56:22 pm
Mid-Atlantic / East coast.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Thomas Gordon Baker on December 09, 2013, 08:03:30 am
WW1: Schipperfabrik, Hessen Antique, Great war Militaria (Most Expensive) US
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 09, 2013, 08:05:23 am
Do I see a WW1 reenactor?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 09, 2013, 08:20:48 am
Do I see a WW1 reenactor?

nah he just has a WWI statue as his avatar and he knows some WWI Sutlers...
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 09, 2013, 08:31:33 am
And just because you have General Lee as avatar, Should i also guess you reenact as ol bobby lee?  ::)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 09, 2013, 08:49:53 am
And just because you have General Lee as avatar, Should i also guess you reenact as ol bobby lee?  ::)

well not exactly Robert E. Lee but i do re-enact a rebel in the CSA  ::)
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Thomas Gordon Baker on December 09, 2013, 07:47:53 pm
I am a Great War reenactor across three different organizations, the Midwest Great War Lining History Society, The Great War Association out East, and the Great War Historical Society in the West coast. I have a German impression for GWA and GWHS for MGWLHS I have a British Impression. I do re-enactments I do memorials at the World War One museum in Kansas City. Make the trip from Nebraska every November 11th and memorial day.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Landrik on December 10, 2013, 10:25:57 pm
What unit for the GWA? I may see you in the trenches this coming April.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 10, 2013, 11:21:46 pm
maybe open up a medieval section zac? after all, medieval is the biggest world wide...
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on December 11, 2013, 02:37:11 am
and the farbiest world wide
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 11, 2013, 02:57:35 am
and the farbiest world wide

some clubs are farby, yes, but they are mostly the ones that only do combat and not the actual living history.

Such as Danelaw Medieval Society, they are only combat but their equipment is farby.

But people like me and Dave Sanders, dont like farby stuff one bit. We pretty much kick anyone out of the camp who has farby gear or they have to camp away from us, an exception was made to me because im injured.

And at Hastings in 2006, every single piece of gear that was brought onto the grounds by a reenactor had to be accurate to within a 15 year period, from 1050 to 1066. Whether it was chainmail whether it was a tooth pick, everything had to be historically accurate.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on December 11, 2013, 05:58:14 am
xD ill make the section later kk, miss Dave Sanders
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 11, 2013, 06:24:47 am
xD ill make the section later kk, miss Dave Sanders

hes back now  :D
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 11, 2013, 07:10:47 am
for medieval-


[France]
http://www.marchand-medieval.com/medieval/- Awesome, awesome guy. everything is hand made, done correctly for the period, really recommend him.


[AUS]
- http://www.medievalshoppe.com.au/- mid range stuff, never bought from them, seems like decent prices.

[AUS]- http://www.medieval-fightclub.com/- Try NOT to buy from these guys, their prices are low for a reason. Not very safe stuff.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Ililsa on December 20, 2013, 01:09:18 pm
and the farbiest world wide
Such as Danelaw Medieval Society, they are only combat but their equipment is farby.

I looked on their site, they look a bit more like they're meant to be a creative anachronism thing to me.

If not then the surcoats and maille hauberks combined with bracers and hourglass gauntlets are actually going to make me cringe.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on December 20, 2013, 01:22:33 pm
update pls.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on January 07, 2014, 03:35:18 am
update the list zac  >:(
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on January 07, 2014, 03:36:45 am
Stuff it all,

~locked~
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: George385 on May 11, 2014, 01:04:58 am
zac, fix medieval before i have to kill you :P
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on May 11, 2014, 01:48:02 am
Nein nein nein

Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on May 11, 2014, 01:56:57 am
Us Napoleonicers must stand firm against the ACW and medieval plebians!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on May 11, 2014, 02:18:52 am
I would post a mean snarky but true comment about napoleonic cosplayers but im getting tired to defend ACW reenactors. Mehh im gonna crawl back to my WW2 foxhole and singing about how stupid those dutch armies were.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Vincenzo on May 11, 2014, 02:51:32 am
Were all reenactors, despite what period we do. We all hate farbs and we all spend too much money on a hobby, lets keep it cool folks.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: DeoVindice61 on May 11, 2014, 02:53:30 am
Were all reenactors, despite what period we do. We all hate farbs and we all spend too much money on a hobby, lets keep it cool folks.


Amen!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Duuring on May 11, 2014, 09:17:19 pm
I would post a mean snarky but true comment about napoleonic cosplayers but im getting tired to defend ACW reenactors. Mehh im gonna crawl back to my WW2 foxhole and singing about how stupid those dutch armies were.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on May 12, 2014, 03:50:31 pm
not upgrading because cant be bothered...nothing to do with Cosplay napoleonics, Farb ACW, and Fat WW2.... and im getting into Medieval anyway..ssooo ye
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: munky-wunky on May 12, 2014, 05:20:34 pm
i want to see a photo of your 501st officers cosplay/impression thinghy
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on May 12, 2014, 10:46:43 pm
show u on FB later in week kk?

soo black huehue
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Wolff on April 01, 2016, 10:22:55 pm
Make this thread great again!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on April 01, 2016, 10:24:23 pm
No British napoleonic?
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: OttoFIN on April 02, 2016, 12:38:37 pm
Not sure if this is being updated anymore but mind as well:
http://www.epicmilitaria.com/ A WW1 and WW2 store full of German, British, American uniforms, helmets, medals, insignas etc. located in the UK.
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: Wolff on April 02, 2016, 01:04:03 pm
Napoleonic (mostly napoleonic but also some other periods):
www.cooperschoice.nl (http://www.cooperschoice.nl)   (dutch)
www.schuhnagel.de (http://www.schuhnagel.de) (german)
www.historische-marketenderei.com (http://www.historische-marketenderei.com) (german)

watch out for farb stuff!
Title: Re: Sutlers
Post by: zac on April 16, 2016, 11:22:42 am
Seriously :P , you guys too good..now I need to update stuff..stop being mean to aussie :'(