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Title: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on November 19, 2012, 03:23:41 pm
This is more of a "I wish" thread because according to Vince, adding new units would increase lag (although adding a new lancer unit to Russia apparently doesn't)

If you could add any historic unit to the currently existing factions, what would it be and to what faction? This isn't a faction suggestion thread, so please refrain from suggesting entire new factions.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on November 19, 2012, 03:32:53 pm
Some units I would like to see

UK- 2nd Scotts Greys, 1st Lifeguards, 13th Light Dragoons, 15th Hussars, more KGL units, more highlanders
France- 18th Line Infantry, 112th Line Infantry, Dutch Grenadiers, Marines, Dutch Red Lancers, Chasseurs-a-Cheval, more fancy ass hussars, old guard chasseurs
Russia- More cossacks, more fancy uniforms, Russia is very dull color-wise
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Windbusche on November 19, 2012, 05:16:13 pm
UK - KGL Hussars. Scots Greys, as you said.
France - More foreign Line Infantry, like the Polish Legion.
Russia - As you said, more color.
Austria - More color as far as Line Infantry goes, much like in Battle of Nations.
Prussia - Fusiliers!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: imTaco on November 19, 2012, 07:53:57 pm
UK: Scots Grey, 92nd Highlanders
France: 4e Grenadiers (surprise!)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Svensson on November 20, 2012, 10:55:54 am
Well instead of adding some more units I'd like to see another faction to make the game more appealing and exciting.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Tali on November 20, 2012, 11:29:25 am
As memory is ever the issue, this should be doable

Remove the "original" russian lancers, they are weaker then they're proper counterparts and and, quite frankly, not as dandy. With the memory generated, gief hussars.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Menelaos on November 20, 2012, 08:51:44 pm
Prussian Fusiliers, or I will rape FSE.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Gizmo on November 20, 2012, 10:55:59 pm
France - More foreign Line Infantry, like the Polish Legion.

Well the Légion de la Vistule (already in-game) is the Polish Legion.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on November 20, 2012, 11:24:08 pm
UK: Scots Greys
Russia: Cossack Artillery
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Maroon on November 23, 2012, 08:42:56 am
15th Hussars for UK, in exchange for the kinda useless early Russian cossacks, like Tali said.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Crusader on November 28, 2012, 01:43:47 pm
Wales
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Van_Hulstein on November 28, 2012, 08:16:08 pm
France - Dutch Grenadiers, Red Lancers (Dutch), 112th Line, Dutch Marines.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on November 29, 2012, 04:26:48 am
France - Dutch Grenadiers, Red Lancers (Dutch), 112th Line, Dutch Marines.
Awesome choices I agree with all of them. Not many people know of the 112th Line "the victors of raab"
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Coconut on November 29, 2012, 06:52:19 am
2e Regiment de Chasseurs-a-Pied de la Garde
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.histwar.fr%2Fassets%2Fgalleries%2F228%2F3croisy_bayonette_chasseurs_y_pied_gi_acrylique_sur_toile_65_x_40_cm_p_150_a_.jpg&hash=50a507e1947ae3dce4c91ab4188f036f01f524de)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Gragnok on November 29, 2012, 12:03:36 pm
I dont want any new stuff for NW made by the devs. Community mappers can keep things fresh through their continued hard work making more maps but i would rather the devs focussed all their attention on Battle Cry Freedom
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on November 29, 2012, 12:09:47 pm
Poland-Lithuania for the lulz
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on November 29, 2012, 02:24:15 pm
France - Dutch Grenadiers, Red Lancers (Dutch), 112th Line, Dutch Marines.
Not many people know of the 112th Line "the victors of raab"

That's, in all honesty, not that strange for a regiment which only fought in two battles. (Wagram and Raab, both battles before the time-period)
I mean, they were a cool regiment and did a something very heroic at Raab, but it's far more logic for the devs to choose a regiment like the 84e which gained multiple battle honours and was at Waterloo.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on November 29, 2012, 02:49:36 pm
Actually not just two, those were two of the three battles they fought in in 1809, there were several more, I would really like to see the Dutch guard grenadiers and guard lancers most of all, dem uniforms
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on November 29, 2012, 04:17:37 pm
Okaaay, three then.

I seem to have it at you all the time lately  ???. Sorry for that!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on December 02, 2012, 03:39:27 pm
Actually 17 from 1803-1814

Nah it's alright, better to be corrected and learn than to remain unknowing.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on December 02, 2012, 05:05:46 pm
Name them! All of them!   ;D
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on December 02, 2012, 07:30:00 pm
1807 Volona and Col de Tarvis
1808 La Fluvia, Cardedeu, and Molins-del-Rey
1809 Valls, Raab, and Wagram
1813 Mersebourg, Lutzen, Bautzen, Loewenberg, Goldberg, Katzbach, Leipzig, and Hanau
1814 Fère-Champenoise

By the way Duuring, would you by chance know where it is possible to find a portrait of Francois-Chretien Van De Sande? The Luitenant-Kolonel of the 7de
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on December 02, 2012, 09:19:37 pm
Ahm but don't you know regiments could only gain battle honours for those battles Napoleon commanded?

Still, nice work in those battles. Oh, and that portrait - I'm on it.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on December 02, 2012, 09:39:13 pm
I did not know that but now that you mention it, I did notice that none of the regiments that fought at Raab were given any battle honours for it. And thank you very much, I'll be very much obliged if you find something :D
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on December 03, 2012, 07:10:14 pm
Side note, your avatar is awsome
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Coconut on December 03, 2012, 11:44:41 pm
2e Chasseurs from mm, they looked so sexy
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Daniel on December 04, 2012, 03:02:57 am
2e Chasseurs from mm, they looked so sexy

+1 they looked awesome, wish they were in NW.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on December 06, 2012, 11:39:18 pm
i think someone already mentioned them, but the british hussars
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: James Grant on December 07, 2012, 10:27:45 am
i think someone already mentioned them, but the british hussars

This....so many times over!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: TheZach_Attack on December 07, 2012, 02:51:31 pm
Light inf. with Light inf. stats on Prussia.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Maroon on December 07, 2012, 02:54:04 pm
Light inf. with Light inf. stats on Prussia.
Light inf stats = Skirmisher's stats :D
Just different weapons.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Darko on December 16, 2012, 02:57:45 pm
Uk-Commanders They have got officers and horse commanders but a commander that when you stay close he gives you bonus meele and shooting
France-More Light Infantry
I would like to see the polish in napol a whole new faction :D
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Gurkha on December 17, 2012, 02:47:44 pm
GURKHAS!. I know they are historically inaccurate but what the hell.  ;D
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Marsh on December 18, 2012, 11:52:15 am
 I know its not really a troop type, but id like to be able to right click a unit and see a little bit of history, like a list of the battles they attended like in N:TW
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Vanguard on December 20, 2012, 05:43:11 pm
Dutch guard lancers.
They maybe didn't do whole lot but they were surely looking VERY good :D
Also i wish  they would make simple   "exchange" skins,like dev team releases an  pack  which would contain only skins,and with which you could replace current uniforms.
If community can do the skins,then devs can do them too.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: VonHessen on December 22, 2012, 12:25:05 am
One single unit of Danish troops.... They were one of the major supporters of Napoléon and they deserve at least a single unit :P
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Friedrich on December 22, 2012, 04:48:21 pm
Jip, Füssiliere (ligh inf) for Prussia, like 51st (2nd York) for UK or the Grenzers for Austria are allready in.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Neon on December 24, 2012, 01:29:03 am
Better and more of a ride range of Russian units. The Russian faction doesn't look that colourful :/

And WAY better Cav units needed for UK
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on December 24, 2012, 01:15:44 pm
I would love to see militia for all nations really
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Ililsa on December 24, 2012, 08:49:34 pm
The 7th Hussars!
Their uniforms are altogether much nicer than the 15ths, in the era NW is set in it was all dark blue with gold lace.
The 15th had red facings at this point, with silver lace, I think, not a good match if you ask me.

Anything but the 10th, I never took to hussars in shakoes.



Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Thomas on December 24, 2012, 10:31:23 pm
French guard chassuers. The voltiguers are horrible.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on December 25, 2012, 09:14:17 am
Mounted drummers in bright pink!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Warder on December 25, 2012, 01:15:46 pm
2e Grenadiers...I miss light guard inf ^.^
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Millander on December 25, 2012, 08:10:43 pm
2e Grenadiers...I miss light guard inf ^.^


actually it was the 2e chasseurs
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 25, 2012, 09:46:33 pm
More units for Austria - I think the main reason people don't like Austria is because their uniforms look kind of shitty.

These guys look pretty cool:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beastsofwar.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F08%2FAustrian-Soldier-Art.jpg&hash=411c507f37b4b29c4d750b51eae08e7ba037ff9d)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: GoldenEagle on December 25, 2012, 09:50:04 pm
French Young guards
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Neon on December 27, 2012, 04:35:22 pm
More units for Austria - I think the main reason people don't like Austria is because their uniforms look kind of shitty.

These guys look pretty cool:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beastsofwar.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F08%2FAustrian-Soldier-Art.jpg&hash=411c507f37b4b29c4d750b51eae08e7ba037ff9d)

Yep
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on December 27, 2012, 04:53:29 pm
I agree, Austria could really use more Czech and German units
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on December 27, 2012, 06:00:25 pm
Militia!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Erik le Rouge on December 27, 2012, 06:16:32 pm
French 18e Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne (Line Infantry Regiment), a.k.a. "Les Braves" ("The Braves" ;D).
It was a pretty cool regiment, with great uniforms, and less if I'm a hussar, I'm in love with these guys :P
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on December 27, 2012, 07:22:42 pm
French 18e Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne (Line Infantry Regiment), a.k.a. "Les Braves" ("The Braves" ;D).
It was a pretty cool regiment, with great uniforms, and less if I'm a hussar, I'm in love with these guys :P

Technically, they are already in the game. Only with a 45e plate.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on December 27, 2012, 08:31:41 pm
France
-Mameluks (the baggy pants will not be denied!)
-Dutch Guard Lancers
-Dutch imperial grenadiers
-chasseurs a pied de la garde
-chasseurs a cheval

UK
-moar highlanders!!!
-kgl light infantry
-brunswickers
-Hussars
-2nd Scotts greys
-dutch/Belgian units

Russia
-more colorful units
-more variety with the Cossacks and opolcheniye/partisans

Prussia
-More types of hussars
-real uhlans instead of just the landwehr lancers
-light infantry not just riflemen

Austria
-Czech and German units
-landwehr
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: GoldenEagle on December 27, 2012, 10:01:28 pm
FRENCH YOUNG GUARDS DAMMIT

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWPCS8zen0zsGpzP-olZvHtL3HKCDOOE72pXJcxtgQiSRlMmNBuA)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on December 27, 2012, 10:44:36 pm
You do know that's French foot artillery, right?
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Pinkknight on December 27, 2012, 10:52:11 pm
I1 Svea Livgarde pls. SWEDEN! YES SWEDEN!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 28, 2012, 03:21:21 am
France
-Mameluks (the baggy pants will not be denied!)
-Dutch Guard Lancers
-Dutch imperial grenadiers
-chasseurs a pied de la garde
-chasseurs a cheval

UK
-moar highlanders!!!
-kgl light infantry
-brunswickers
-Hussars
-2nd Scotts greys
-dutch/Belgian units

Russia
-more colorful units
-more variety with the Cossacks and opolcheniye/partisans

Prussia
-More types of hussars
-real uhlans instead of just the landwehr lancers
-light infantry not just riflemen

Austria
-Czech and German units
-landwehr

Dem Mamluks are very based.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmodels2u.co.uk%2FShop%2Fcontents%2Fmedia%2Fl_6082_Mamelukes.jpg&hash=f6d7e3c0b6326c40245b2474884f599e6b7442b8)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Johan on December 28, 2012, 05:19:34 am
I would love to see a Ottoman faction added to the game. Would be fun to see exotic Ottoman units such as the Sipahi and Mamluk cavalry's. Also the Ottoman Heavy Artillery (heaviest artillery in the world back then) would absolutely destroy everything in Linebattles.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Bluehawk on December 28, 2012, 07:19:47 pm
I would rather see a greater diversity in stats given to the units already present, than to add more. All the basic types of fighting forces used heavily in the era are already present. Different coloured uniforms for this regiment and that regiment would be pointless.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Vanguard on December 28, 2012, 11:46:13 pm
Gotta agree with Bluehawk.
Also  Ottomans AFAIK  DID NOT participate in napoleonic wars,and if I remember correctly the mod is set in 1812-1815
I would love some coloured units for Russia-overall im close to crying when on server I'm forced to join a russian team...Their units are just horrible.
Someone mentioned Isum [or something like that] Hussars,that would be a great addition.
British units also lack colour.Maybe brunswickers? Dutch? Dunno,but something that adds colour.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 29, 2012, 12:29:03 am
Gotta agree with Bluehawk.
Also  Ottomans AFAIK  DID NOT participate in napoleonic wars,and if I remember correctly the mod is set in 1812-1815
I would love some coloured units for Russia-overall im close to crying when on server I'm forced to join a russian team...Their units are just horrible.
Someone mentioned Isum [or something like that] Hussars,that would be a great addition.
British units also lack colour.Maybe brunswickers? Dutch? Dunno,but something that adds colour.
Didn't Napoleon fight the Ottomans in Egypt? Isn't that how the nose got knocked off of the great sphinx? Well known story if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on December 29, 2012, 12:48:29 am
That's just a myth.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Connzcdf on December 29, 2012, 02:21:02 am
More regular British infantry. I.E. someone with a Belgian Shako, is from somewhere in the United Kingdom and is regular infantry.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Vanguard on December 29, 2012, 05:18:02 pm
He did i guess,but before 1812.End of 1700's i guess.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Bluehawk on December 29, 2012, 05:33:01 pm
There are illustrations of the Sphinx from 1755 with the nose missing.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 30, 2012, 12:58:35 am
"The Sphinx actually lost a considerable amount of its features in 1378CE when a local Sufi Sheik thought the Sphinx to be idolatrous and attempted to blow it up with explosives.
His name was Sayim al- Dahr whose was called by the locals contemporary to his time as the Perpetual Faster.
Local legend tells that the Sphinx took revenge on him by creating a sand storm that lasted three days and nearly destroyed the local village where he lived.
I am not sure whether that is true,but it sounds like good poetic justice anyway.
It is however the actual way the face of the Sphinx came to have its face so disfigured.
But he did not realise that it was only the head that was visible above the sand as the Sphinx has spent most of its life buried in the sand.
It was only at the beginning of the last century that the sand was finally cleared away once and for all, allowing the Sphinx to be seen in its entirety for the first time since the days of dynastic Egypt."

That clears things up.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Killer on December 30, 2012, 01:54:17 am
I would really like to see some medical units.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Venom on December 31, 2012, 02:38:50 pm
1st royal scots regiment of foot
90th perthshire regiment of foot
scots greys
78th ross-shire buffs
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Inkyy on December 31, 2012, 09:44:04 pm
1st KGL hussars for Britain. As they are, British cav in NW is worthless compared to the other factions. Cavalry Group fighting was forced to remove Britain in the first day because of the massive unbalance. Why Britain hasn't got hussars already to address the problem is a mystery. Light dragoon regiments were changed to hussar regiments from 1806 onwards and others were even armed with lances.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Russo on January 01, 2013, 01:24:03 am
A medical corp or a healing system would be nice and to see the implications of it in linebattles would be neat
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on January 01, 2013, 01:33:42 am
1st KGL hussars for Britain. As they are, British cav in NW is worthless compared to the other factions. Cavalry Group fighting was forced to remove Britain in the first day because of the massive unbalance. Why Britain hasn't got hussars already to address the problem is a mystery. Light dragoon regiments were changed to hussar regiments from 1806 onwards and others were even armed with lances.

Lances didn't appear until after 1815 (1817, I believe). And though some regiments were named to hussars and got new uniforms, their weapons and tactics stayed exactly the same.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: GoldenEagle on January 01, 2013, 02:13:06 am
Gotta agree with Bluehawk.
Also  Ottomans AFAIK  DID NOT participate in napoleonic wars,and if I remember correctly the mod is set in 1812-1815
I would love some coloured units for Russia-overall im close to crying when on server I'm forced to join a russian team...Their units are just horrible.
Someone mentioned Isum [or something like that] Hussars,that would be a great addition.
British units also lack colour.Maybe brunswickers? Dutch? Dunno,but something that adds colour.
Didn't Napoleon fight the Ottomans in Egypt? Isn't that how the nose got knocked off of the great sphinx? Well known story if I'm not mistaken.

True story.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Ililsa on January 01, 2013, 02:38:05 am
Lances didn't appear until after 1815 (1817, I believe). And though some regiments were named to hussars and got new uniforms, their weapons and tactics stayed exactly the same.
Britain used Lancers at the time in its colonies, generally Indian regiments that would never have seen action outside their home country. Some Light Dragoon regiments were converted into Lancers after the Napoleonic Wars, as you said, in, it would seem 1816. They ended up adopting the European fashions for these regiments (particularly the Polish Czapka) but kept some of their distinctions from their time as Light Dragoon regiments, such as the 17th's white facings (that they originally complained would subject them to friendly fire.)

The British had about seven hussar regiments though, including the three Kings German Legion regiments. I'm eternally going to say that at least one of them should be added. After all, as said, Russia has two lancer regiments, Austria has two dragoon regiments and France has three heavy cavalry regiments.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on January 01, 2013, 03:56:15 am
Lances didn't appear until after 1815 (1817, I believe). And though some regiments were named to hussars and got new uniforms, their weapons and tactics stayed exactly the same.
Britain used Lancers at the time in its colonies, generally Indian regiments that would never have seen action outside their home country. Some Light Dragoon regiments were converted into Lancers after the Napoleonic Wars, as you said, in, it would seem 1816. They ended up adopting the European fashions for these regiments (particularly the Polish Czapka) but kept some of their distinctions from their time as Light Dragoon regiments, such as the 17th's white facings (that they originally complained would subject them to friendly fire.)

The British had about seven hussar regiments though, including the three Kings German Legion regiments. I'm eternally going to say that at least one of them should be added. After all, as said, Russia has two lancer regiments, Austria has two dragoon regiments and France has three heavy cavalry regiments.
I think they're all the same thought stat-wise. They're just reskins, so it doesn't really make a difference balance-wise how many of each cav type different nations have.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Ililsa on January 01, 2013, 07:45:48 am
I think they're all the same thought stat-wise. They're just reskins, so it doesn't really make a difference balance-wise how many of each cav type different nations have.

My issue with it is that the reason they're not adding British hussars is that it isn't 'beneficial for the amount of work involved' and yet so many other nations have these superfluous units. Britain even has two heavy cavalry units.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on January 02, 2013, 03:25:38 am
I think they're all the same thought stat-wise. They're just reskins, so it doesn't really make a difference balance-wise how many of each cav type different nations have.

My issue with it is that the reason they're not adding British hussars is that it isn't 'beneficial for the amount of work involved' and yet so many other nations have these superfluous units. Britain even has two heavy cavalry units.
Well yeah that makes sense. I think they just don't want to add anymore though. It may not make sense logically but if the devs don't want to work anymore on that aspect, you're not going to change their minds.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Vanguard on January 02, 2013, 09:11:52 am
French heavy cav has different stats.
Carabinier has the best armor
Gren a cheval has the best ingame sword
Cuirassier is mix of Gren and Carabinier
Carabinier sword also seems shorter,but does more damage on stab.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Ililsa on January 02, 2013, 10:07:24 am
The unit stats are pretty much all the same, I haven't seen equipment stats, however.

Chances are I won't change their minds, no. I think the ships and Marines are the last update.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Russo on January 08, 2013, 04:45:10 am
I wish there were new factions like the US during the time.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jacob on January 08, 2013, 08:20:35 am
The unit stats are pretty much all the same, I haven't seen equipment stats, however.

Chances are I won't change their minds, no. I think the ships and Marines are the last update.

Aye, it is the last update
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Onii on January 08, 2013, 08:24:23 am
The unit stats are pretty much all the same, I haven't seen equipment stats, however.

Chances are I won't change their minds, no. I think the ships and Marines are the last update.

Aye, it is the last update
Atleast the last big one.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Search Function on January 08, 2013, 11:28:41 am
French heavy cav has different stats.
Carabinier has the best armor
Gren a cheval has the best ingame sword
Cuirassier is mix of Gren and Carabinier
Carabinier sword also seems shorter,but does more damage on stab.
I suggest you read this (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=1108.msg23839#msg23839) before saying stuff like that, mate. This guy's also making item stats, so keep an eye out on that as well.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 08, 2013, 07:28:48 pm
I really wish Chasseurs a Cheval would have made it in, they look really cool and were a very effective force

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Chasseurs of the Imperial Guard
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Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: loppolh on February 08, 2013, 09:58:44 pm
23rd Royal Welch pls.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Charme on February 11, 2013, 04:38:17 am
My only disappointment is the lack of Spanish and Ottomans. Can you imagine the havoc a great bombard or mass guerrilla forces could wreck?
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Windbusche on February 11, 2013, 04:55:03 am
Do want.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Penn on February 15, 2013, 08:57:19 am
Sweden as a nation ;)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Archduke Sven on February 15, 2013, 04:49:37 pm
The French need Chasseurs a Cheval, even the Austrians get dragoons and chevaulegers but the french only get dragoons? Thats madness.

Also, Britain needs a Hussar unit. I think the 1st KGL Hussars would be the best unit for that.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Venom on February 16, 2013, 12:25:45 pm
soldiers armed with dildos and lube
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on February 16, 2013, 05:34:44 pm
What I'd really like to see is some more unit variation. I don't really mind having a slightly historically inaccurate faction like The Ottomans if it means they'll have interesting units and uniforms, then I'm all for it.

I kind of think it was a mistake to only center the game around a certain year in the Napoleonic wars because it eliminated so many possibilities for different settings and factions  :'(
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Gizmo on February 18, 2013, 01:14:14 am
Some units of the Armée des émigrés, fighting against the evil republican and imperial France, for the return of the monarchy.

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Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Vikestad on February 18, 2013, 01:20:24 am
Some units of the Armée des émigrés, fighting against the evil republican and imperial France, for the return of the monarchy.

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I like frenchies who still support the Bourbons, Gizmo. Lol. Who is the current heir btw? Some spanish dude, or is the house of Orléans branch the legitimates now?
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: kpetschulat on February 18, 2013, 04:23:07 am
I would love to see militia for all nations really

Me too. British Fencibles and Austrian Landwehr are so cool.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Gizmo on February 19, 2013, 12:01:57 am
I like frenchies who still support the Bourbons, Gizmo. Lol. Who is the current heir btw? Some spanish dude, or is the house of Orléans branch the legitimates now?

The current heir of the Bourbons is Louis XX, son of Alphonse Jacques Marcellin Emmanuel Victor Marie de Bourbon, Duke of Anjou. Louis XX was born in Madrid, but his father is french, and he currently lives in New York (he is a sort of trader), and Paris.

On the other hand, the Orléanistes have Jean Carl Pierre Marie d’Orléans, Duke of Vendôme.

I personally support the Légitimistes (Bourbons), because the House of Orléans is just a younger bastard branch of the Capetian House of Bourbon, most people consider them as "traitors" (cf. 1830). The Bourbons are the rightful heirs of the Kingdom of France.

Sorry for that off-topic.  :D
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jelly on February 19, 2013, 10:02:33 am
UK=7th Hussars, 15th Hussars, more British line regiments eg. 88th "Connaught Rangers" Foot and 7th Royal Fusiliers. No more Highlanders or KGL.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on February 19, 2013, 12:39:24 pm
I like frenchies who still support the Bourbons, Gizmo. Lol. Who is the current heir btw? Some spanish dude, or is the house of Orléans branch the legitimates now?

The current heir of the Bourbons is Louis XX, son of Alphonse Jacques Marcellin Emmanuel Victor Marie de Bourbon, Duke of Anjou. Louis XX was born in Madrid, but his father is french, and he currently lives in New York (he is a sort of trader), and Paris.

On the other hand, the Orléanistes have Jean Carl Pierre Marie d’Orléans, Duke of Vendôme.

I personally support the Légitimistes (Bourbons), because the House of Orléans is just a younger bastard branch of the Capetian House of Bourbon, most people consider them as "traitors" (cf. 1830). The Bourbons are the rightful heirs of the Kingdom of France.

Sorry for that off-topic.  :D

You truly want the monarchy back? With power?
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Gizmo on February 19, 2013, 05:55:38 pm
You truly want the monarchy back? With power?

I do want the monarchy back, a constitutional monarchy inspired from the Scandinavian ones.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Ililsa on February 20, 2013, 04:42:16 pm
The 33rd have been bothering me for a while with their red facings and stovepipe shakoes.

The 44th, 50th or 88th would be far more interesting.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: kpetschulat on February 20, 2013, 05:03:01 pm
Did the 88th Irish "Connaught Ranger" not have Stovepipe Shakos? I think they did... However, they had the nicer British uniforms with Yellow facings.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Ililsa on February 20, 2013, 05:25:50 pm
Did the 88th Irish "Connaught Ranger" not have Stovepipe Shakos? I think they did... However, they had the nicer British uniforms with Yellow facings.

The line regiments replaced the stovepipe with the belgic shako in 1812, the 33rd seem to be portrayed with the stovepipe as they had just returned from service in India.

I picked out the 50th just because of their facing. They were black. Though now that I look, the 58th were far more dashing, they had black facings and gold buttons whereas the 50th had silver.

The 44th and 88th wore yellow, bright and pale respectively. I have of course selected them for their achievements, though. The 88th probably need no explanation, the 44th (East Essex) captured an Eagle and were the basis for Sharpe's South Essex.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Capitaine Pierre on February 21, 2013, 11:31:22 am
The 4e Régiment de Hussards is a regiment I'd very much like to see, way better looking than the 2e currently represented in the game. My opinion, anyway!

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Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Draken193 on February 21, 2013, 10:22:59 pm
I would like to see a new nation , I think we have enough units :)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Budzinskiy on February 22, 2013, 10:32:25 pm
Austria:Windbusche jaegers
France:3ème régiment de lancier de la garde
and I would like to see a new faction like Sweden or Denmark
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Jocam on February 24, 2013, 04:30:35 pm
It would be cool to see some dutch guys in france.

also, Le légion de l'Entranger would be quite cool for france as well
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Agovich on March 02, 2013, 08:16:49 pm
Mne..

Anyways, the Litovsky Lifeguards had pretty awesome cloths, would be awesome to see them instead of the never-used Pavlovsky :)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Millander on March 02, 2013, 09:01:18 pm
Nothing, Marching sucks
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: kpetschulat on March 02, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
I really wish that besides the 24e Bataillon des Marins de la Intrepide, FSE would have made the Bataillon des Marins de la Garde Imperiale. And, no. Not because that's what I am, but because the Guard Seamen (Yes... Seamen) achieved many feats through the wars. And, they were the personal shipguard of Napoleon, when Napoleon was out at sea. However, I understand as to why they pick 24e Bataillon des Marins de la Intrepide, since they are regular marines, and were in many naval conflicts in the English Channel. They even fought in a fleet against Admiral Horatio Nelson of Great Britain's Royal Navy, arguably the most powerful naval force in the world at the time.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Docm30 on March 03, 2013, 06:54:48 pm
The French faction is supposed to represent the French circa Waterloo, a campaign during which the Guard Seamen only mustered 150 men. It'd be kind of odd to include a force that consisted of so few soldiers.

They also weren't actually marines, and the update calls for actual marines.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Nipplestockings on March 03, 2013, 07:00:27 pm
The French faction is supposed to represent the French circa Waterloo, a campaign during which the Guard Seamen only mustered 150 men. It'd be kind of odd to include a force that consisted of so few soldiers.

They also weren't actually marines, and the update calls for actual marines.

This game takes place in 1812, doesn't it? Not waterloo.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on March 03, 2013, 07:24:48 pm
It covers a somewhat broad range really, a little of the early, a little of the later.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on March 03, 2013, 07:46:13 pm
I wished they had chosen to add a historical accurate uniform of the French sailors, instead of a labeled jacket. I mean, LABELS? NO!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Docm30 on March 03, 2013, 08:37:54 pm
Looking at the French marine uniform in the update, it certainly appears to be double-breasted, not lapelled.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Azbenol on March 17, 2013, 11:34:12 am
I'm quite happy with the variety of units, but what I'd really like to see is different ranks, eg instead of the current list of available ranks:

33rd Regiment of Foot

Ranker
Officer
Ensign
Drummer
Fifer

They change it to something like this:

Private
LanceCorporal
Corporal
Sergeant

Field Officers (Lieutenant/Captain)
Officer Staff (Colonel etc.)

+ensign and musicians.


This will never happen but it would be so sexy
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Brock on March 17, 2013, 12:07:48 pm
More units for Austria - I think the main reason people don't like Austria is because their uniforms look kind of shitty.

These guys look pretty cool:
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Yep
I take it you are referring to the kasket or helmet? If so, that would not be historically accurate. The production stopped in 1806.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on March 17, 2013, 05:37:06 pm
Looking at the French marine uniform in the update, it certainly appears to be double-breasted, not lapelled.

I'm quite sure it was a lapelled jacket (You can see the line in the middle), and if it isn't, it sure is badly made sailors jacket. I don't recall the sailors caracot (is that the word?) having so many buttons (Which are not going in a straight line).

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Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Rhazak on March 18, 2013, 08:49:21 am
Something I suggested on the taleworlds forum quite a while back, but I still stand by it.

Drum Majors, because they were fucking badass.

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*Notice the sheathed sword.

"Drum majors, at least in the French service, were men of consequence in their regiments.
He went into the fire using his mace, the head of which was loaded with lead, as a weapon. The two battalion Old Guard assault at Plancenoit was led by a mace-swinging drum major."


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"...the drum major, swinging his loaded mace at every Prussian head in range, at Waterloo leading the two battalion bayonets-only assault at Plancenoit to throw fourteen Prussian battalions out of the burning village"

"The two-battalion Old Guard assault on Plancenoit, 1815: Two battalions of Old Guard infantry commanded by General Petit and led by a baton-swinging drum major attacked the village of Plancenoit on the French right flank after the Young Guard had been ejected by the Prussians. Two battalions against 14, the Old Guard attacked with the bayonet and threw the Prussians out of the village, inflicting heavy casualties."

"And then you have Pelet leading two battalions of Old Guard infantry into the burning inferno of Plancenoit in June 1815 with orders to use the bayonet. Two French battalions against fourteen Prussian battalions, the French driving the Prussians from Plancenoit being led by a mace-swinging drum major who brained a Prussian infantryman with every swing of his loaded baton. He must have been swinging it like a baseball bat. The Guardsmen chased the Prussians out of Plancenoit and back to their own line of artillery, and then withdrew unmolested by the Prussians back into the village which they held for the rest of the day until breaking out at the bitter end and heading south under Pelet with their eagle."

"And then at Dresden in 1813 a Guard drum major leading fifty Young Guardsmen in a counter-attack to retake a redoubt from the Austrians. He led them in the rain and mud into and through the ditch and over the wall to retake the fortification at bayonet point."
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Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Brock on March 19, 2013, 06:30:45 am
Bad ass. I agree with drum major
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on March 19, 2013, 12:29:31 pm
You should watch La Bella alliance a little more closesly then. In due time.... Can't reveal anything yet.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Docm30 on March 20, 2013, 01:21:49 am
I'm quite sure it was a lapelled jacket (You can see the line in the middle), and if it isn't, it sure is badly made sailors jacket. I don't recall the sailors caracot (is that the word?) having so many buttons (Which are not going in a straight line).

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Look closely at the left side (our left, not his) of the coat, you'll see piping on that side but not the right side.

Besides, double-breasted coats almost always had a seam right down the middle when buttoned over.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on March 21, 2013, 11:47:06 am
Nevertheless, the 'turn' the lines of buttons made is wrong, and it has too many of them anyway.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Docm30 on March 22, 2013, 05:21:47 am
It's got two rows of nine buttons, which is correct. You're right that they should be straight, though.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Bluehawk on March 22, 2013, 05:24:31 am
It's not the first uniform they've given flaring columns of buttons to when they should be parallel.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Docm30 on March 22, 2013, 05:50:25 am
At least they got the number of buttons right this time.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Reverse on March 22, 2013, 08:19:15 pm
UK:1st Regiment of Foot Guards, Scots grey, 1st KGL hussars, and some dutch units (8th Militia perhaps?)
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Brock on March 23, 2013, 06:17:56 pm
UK:1st Regiment of Foot Guards, Scots grey, 1st KGL hussars, and some dutch units (8th Militia perhaps?)
I wouldn't put Dutch with UK. Duuring might have to kill you.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: saturnplanet on April 05, 2013, 04:13:44 pm
brunswickers!
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: DutchFoot on April 05, 2013, 09:28:55 pm
Anything dutch
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Siobs on May 03, 2013, 01:05:50 pm
France - Dutch Grenadiers, Red Lancers (Dutch), 112th Line, Dutch Marines.
i want this to be there like this guy  :D
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Duuring on May 03, 2013, 02:08:03 pm
UK:1st Regiment of Foot Guards, Scots grey, 1st KGL hussars, and some dutch units (8th Militia perhaps?)
I wouldn't put Dutch with UK. Duuring might have to kill you.

If they speak Dutch, have a Dutch flag and their name is spelled in Dutch, I'd love it.

Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: KillerMongoose on May 03, 2013, 02:59:31 pm
France - Dutch Grenadiers, Red Lancers (Dutch), 112th Line, Dutch Marines.

If they speak Dutch, have a Dutch flag and their name is spelled in Dutch, I'd love it.

Anything dutch

This. I find it funny that originally everybody really wanted Austria and now that we have Austria, nobody likes them and the general consensus is that Austria is pretty bad. The Dutch (specifically the United Kingdom of the Netherlands) would have been much more interesting or at the very least the Kingdom of Holland would be better than Austria.
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: 77y_Lt_Gaz on May 03, 2013, 03:23:45 pm
light infantry for all factions as well as some better british cav is my wish would make every regiment out there less picky of the factions aswell as clearing up alot of misunderstanings with lights firing out of formation
Title: Re: What units would you want to see?
Post by: Walko on May 04, 2013, 07:33:57 am
Prussia:
1st West Prussian Fulisiers added as light infantry. (Basically look like the brandenburgs, but with black crossbelts)

France:
Some chasseurs for light infantry, voltigeurs as skirmy wormies.