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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dekkers on April 24, 2013, 08:02:47 pm
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Hello guys.
I am just wondering what you guys think about those people on eu1 those do one of the following things;
-Being a sapper, just closing himself in and waiting;
-Being a sapper, building stuff to get on places you are not allowed to be;
-Musicians etc, just dancing at spawn waiting till they get slaughtered in the end of the rounds (wasting time);
-People dropping their weapons/surrendering, and then join the enemy which doesn't kill them;
-People dropping their weapons running away;
-People randomly team hitting and or team killing;
-People being told to not go on certain spots (For example: the roof on Russian_Village).
And then there are probably more things you could come up with. But I guess some of us know, that most of the things I just called out happen allot. And they happen everyday, somethings when there are actually admins on, most of the times when there aren't. I know every game has trolls, but in my eyes EU1 has allot of them :-[
That is how I think about it
I am curious how you guys think about it, do you like it? Do you hate it? Do you want it to stop? How do you think it could stop? Do you think it has consequences for the people playing?.
I have noticed EU1 is getting more empty every month, would that be because of that? Or because of something else?
Tell me! And discuss :).
-Regards, Dekkers
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I don't like any of these things, however, it is a public server and things like this will happen; however, we can be thankful that there are organized events that have rules to prevent stuff like this. :)
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That's bad, but you should take a look to NA_1, you will be terrified.
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I don't like any of these things, however, it is a public server and things like this will happen; however, we can be thankful that there are organized events that have rules to prevent stuff like this. :)
Yeah I totaly agree, but I just wish I could have a good time when I am not playing an event, and as I am not in a regiment I have that allot.
That's bad, but you should take a look to NA_1, you will be terrified.
Is it even worse there?
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I don't like any of these things, however, it is a public server and things like this will happen; however, we can be thankful that there are organized events that have rules to prevent stuff like this. :)
That's bad, but you should take a look to NA_1, you will be terrified.
Is it even worse there?
Confirmed. That server is filled with trolls and another kind of animals aswell.
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It is a public server , what do you expect :|
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It is a public server , what do you expect :|
I expect to it be a decent server, not a circus.
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I was around 1.30 pm GMT on EU 1 and it was bad, its so bad, the EU1 battle in MM was way more fun than this... now we have all those muscisians and surrendering people and delayers, its not fun anymore and it will never be the same again...
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It's a public server, and a big part of the community are trolls. (Face it) We can not always tell people to do something, or tell someone to stop with something as admins. Because then we would be getting to much in the public "affairs" after all they bought the game, and they reserve with that all rights to do as they want on the Official Server. Of course as long it doesn't inflicts with the server rules. It's perhaps sad for some people, but that's just the way it is. And always was.
What I just said goes for the most points you mentioned, obviously the team hitting/team killing is a job for the admins. However even when there is an admin on, he can't always see the rule breaking offense, therefore we hope that the other public players help us as much as possible by reporting any such offense. In what case we can act quickly on it and deal with the problem. However a lot of times the admins simply don't have a clue if it was on purpose or not. We don't have eyes all over the map.
Sappers are also prevented as much as possible to do somewhat rule breaking offenses, like building objects that get's them to a spot where someone isn't meant to be. However for the part that they close themself in somewhere, I personally would say that they are fully allowed to do that. But when the end of the round is near, they will have to go in to the battle as well to prevent any round delaying. That's when an admin can hop in and do his thing. But that's only when it's a fact that the person is delaying. Therefore breaking the rules.
For some other points you mentioned, like the musicians, people dropping their weapons and running around and people surrendering to the enemy. On all these points we can only do something when it turns into delaying like I just explained at the end of a round. And when it's clear they are delaying. Then we admins can do something.
Last, yes EU1 is getting more empty, and we admins. Are busy with trying to find something to get some fresh wind in the server, and to get people playing more on the official servers again. That might take a while, so in the meanwhile we would highly support you in getting other people on the EU1 server to have some fun gameplay.
However, these points you have noted are not exactly the cases of the sudden dropping of the population. The points you mentioned are (i believe i said it before) happening since back in MM. Though other events lately could have influenced this, like a lot of people quitting NW for the melee system, or whatever other reason. But that's not really important. We just need to find a way to get people interested again. And perhaps the new patch will do the job. Who knows?
Alright my say on it. Hope it helped you a bit. ;)
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People have different ways to have fun on the server and if that means they form a musical band at spawn with a few friends then so be it, they aren't harming anyone. Just because you dont like it does not make it count for everyone afterall the musician class is part of the game that they bought so they have the right to use it. All the other points will always be around as we admins cant guard the server 24/7. Aslong as people arent causing problems by teamkilling, glitching or just being a general troll then everything should be alright.
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In my opinion we need a hard punishment for teamkillers and glitchers*.
BUT dont slay for every small issue like talking bullshit. Admins should not have to care for the chat.... use the energy to look for teamkills.
new maps on the server -> some players just troll because they are bored of the old maps
* fix the bugs. As a coder i would be ashamed if someone is using a bug for nearly a year now. And dont tell me you cant because its hardcoded. If you can go in a rock and it cant be fixed, remove the rock from the map..... whoho its really that simple ::)
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In my opinion we need a hard punishment for teamkillers and glitchers*.
BUT dont slay for every small issue like talking bullshit. Admins should not have to care for the chat.... use the energy to look for teamkills.
new maps on the server -> some players just troll because they are bored of the old maps
* fix the bugs. As a coder i would be ashamed if someone is using a bug for nearly a year now. And dont tell me you cant because its hardcoded. If you can go in a rock and it cant be fixed, remove the rock from the map..... whoho its really that simple ::)
I couldn't have said it better, and yes. Eu1 needs new maps, made so people CAN'T abuse the roofs. Which isn't dificult to make... :)
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I hope this server can be great as an official server should be soon.
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I am on Eu1 atm, and 92nd_Pte_Douglas_MacKenzie is doing some great admin work! :D
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-Being a sapper, just closing himself in and waiting; Annoying
-Being a sapper, building stuff to get on places you are not allowed to be; Im fine with that as long as we can shoot them.
-Musicians etc, just dancing at spawn waiting till they get slaughtered in the end of the rounds (wasting time); No problem at all.
-People dropping their weapons/surrendering, and then join the enemy which doesn't kill them; Find it quite amusing.
-People dropping their weapons running away; Funny at start but if it go's on for to long it gets annoying.
-People randomly team hitting and or team killing; Need to be banned right away.
-People being told to not go on certain spots (For example: the roof on Russian_Village). Im fine with people going on buildings but if they start going up a mountain then I understand.
I think EU1 is losing people for 1 main reason. That is the fact that the M&B community seems to be getting smaller.
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Pubs gonna Pub.
Usually on NA_1 (hopefully also on EU_1) there are some good admins that keep things running smoothly, but most of the things that annoy some of us players make it fun for others.
I believe that as long as they are not breaking rules, they can act as stupid as they want.
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I don't think I will be going on EU1 again, definitely not very much anyway after being trolled to the point of exhaustion then afterwards being framed for the trolling myself and putting a ban request up in my name, luckily I was not banned but it puts me off. If you see gozzy or kozzey around then I would stay away from them, a lot of people I know have called them trolls and after this I can confirm it.
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I don't think I will be going on EU1 again, definitely not very much anyway after being trolled to the point of exhaustion then afterwards being framed for the trolling myself and putting a ban request up in my name, luckily I was not banned but it puts me off. If you see gozzy or kozzey around then I would stay away from them, a lot of people I know have called them trolls and after this I can confirm it.
I shall open my final verdict with a quote
22:58:44 - *DEAD* [126th_Col_Skipper] and i know that they check the log
Yes Skipper i do check them, and it seems to me that this time you were 'trolling' and you decided to teamkill Kozzy and Gozzy for no reason and then blamed it on the 'lag' you tk'ed them within a few seconds of each others so that excuse is highly unlikely
22:58:39 - *DEAD* [126th_Col_Skipper] i know many admins
Then you should know we do not tolerate teamkilling
Now on to Kozzey and Gozzy you were purposefully antagonising Skipper, and you were both giving as good as you get.
I am not going to ban any of you however class this as your first and last warning, if another incident like this crops up then i will ban you all, ignore each other on the server and leave it at that. Gozzy stop trying to provoke Skipper into reacting by constantly abusing him, Skipper stop acting like you know everyone in the community and that you are friends with everyone, furthermore because you run a regiment means nothing, i don't run a regiment and yet here i as am EU senior admin, stop antagonising each other and learn to play peacfully i do not wish to have to deal with you 3 again.
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4949.msg162046#msg162046
This is the argument to you Skipper which you were told to stop moaning about by Crusader and McEwanMaster. I'd suggest you listen to them.
And yes Dekekrs i totally agree with you, but if you were to get rid of them all then there would be no one left to play :P
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Oh goodness, here as well? Skipper, I would have thought that after what happened in the multiple instances you've expressed your feelings on the case in public threads, you would stop. Your spreading the case around is creating a disturbance, and it needs to stop. Stop posting about it, or you might be warned for spamming and instigating arguments, as that is what you are doing, knowingly or not.
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Well I am incredibly confused, highlander has said the exact same thing Crusader said and it makes me feel like the logs have been changed which is obviously ridiculous, I was trolled, teamkilled, verbally abused, and then finally they make a thread about trying to ban me and everyone seems to believe them.
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Well I am incredibly confused, highlander has said the exact same thing Crusader said and it makes me feel like the logs have been changed which is obviously ridiculous, I was trolled, teamkilled, verbally abused, and then finally they make a thread about trying to ban me and everyone seems to believe them.
The reason that what i said is the same as what Crusader said is because i copy and pasted it ^^ for an example.
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So many glitching partisans... lal
As I mentioned earlier, the maps really need to be patched when glitches are found...
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I've played MM and NW a long time, and apart from being serious and playing for keeps, I've also "taken a break", I've definitely been in a number of those "negative" categories before. It's a public server, I can do whatever I please, within respectable means of course, such as no vulgar language or team-killing, (Though I tend to kill my cav ally's horses when they keep hitting me, trying to steal my kill. Bastards deserve worse than that) 8)
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Well its not that we have lack of admins that much, just only sometimes.. And I know its almost not possible to send an admin each minute of the day, but it is true, the behaviour of some people is getting worse. I'm not saying names, but there are a lot on the server, that come on daily, and still behave like a little child. Without some warnings, perhaps a slay.
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If the people are not breaking any rules but just having a fun time being derps I have no problem with it, its not like there are no other servers you can join for more of a serious game>
The thing that annoys me the most is recruitment spammers, hey anyone want to join a regiment? NO! No we fucking don't!
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Basically the problem is the lack of admins on at any one time. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Basically the problem is the lack of admins on at any one time. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's a problem that can not be solved. Sometimes there are loads of admins on, and sometimes none. You can have 100 admins, but you still won't solve it.
We've enough proof to support that, the last time we had around 7 (i think) new admins. And if what you guy's say is true, then nothing changed with what was before. No one of the admins is to blame for this. We all have a life behind this, and can't be there 24/7, we're doing this voluntarily , and have plently of other stuff to do.
It's sad, but the truth.
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Still, I think we can help admins, with different things.
People glitch a map, admin has to watch it. Make it so they can't glitch it. A glitch is found in a map. UPDATE it. Some glitches are there for ages now. Never fixed. That is just bad, yes. Admins do their job and you can't buy bot admins. But with small things you can help.
I think by updating the maps you solve sucha huge part of the problem. Then the players is a problem that can bairly be solved.
And about patches won't help, because the final patch has been made already. So if things still suck after the patch. Then we don't even have to talk about all of it anymore, and in fact. As the patch is done already, it doesn't really make sence either.
All we can do is help admins by making ban requests etc.
And maybe, patch the maps.
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We admins, can't do anything about the maps. That's up to the FSE team. Not us.
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We admins, can't do anything about the maps. That's up to the FSE team. Not us.
Yeah, I know.
But I doubt it if they will, but new maps always keep people playing. So if they read... *wink*
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From what I've heard there will be quite some fixing/edditing in a lot of maps for the next patch. So just be patienced.
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From what I've heard there will be quite some fixing/edditing in a lot of maps for the next patch. So just be patienced.
That's good to hear!
But I don't have patience :-[