Why is it 7 days long, everyone will see and vote in 1-2 days, and why tf can't I see who's voting what while it's going on so I can enjoy the drama
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.
Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.
If not nevermind, just an idea.Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0[close]
In case its something people would actually find interesting. I'm happy to do it if not I'll just be streaming anywayOut of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.
Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.
If not nevermind, just an idea.Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0[close]
i think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
hertz don’t be dumb maskman has CR he can post on any thread. even locked ones. Fietta didn’t let him post anything, more like maskman bending the rules to get his point across.Fietta should have deleted it. My point still stands...
Can you delete mod posts? Not sure but fietta is the last person to agree with maskman since they beef all the time now.I'm sure Fietta would put look past a grudge with Maskman if it helped him ban WSE2.
I’ve been fairly quiet in regards to WSE2 but having had a discussion in depth yesterday and fiddling around with it, I made up my mind.
i think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
Yeah that is odd as fuck Fietta. If you're gonna to allow people to post. Allow EVERYONE to post. Not just someone who seems to support your claims. That's just weaselly. Show some backbone and either delete Maskman's comment. Or Open the thread up to others to post their thoughts.
I deleted maskmans post, calm, tho he is righti think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
Yeah that is odd as fuck Fietta. If you're gonna to allow people to post. Allow EVERYONE to post. Not just someone who seems to support your claims. That's just weaselly. Show some backbone and either delete Maskman's comment. Or Open the thread up to others to post their thoughts.
Stop being a pussy ass bitch
Yeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
I think we should have a community vote to not allow fietta to post on FSE
I’ve been fairly quiet in regards to WSE2 but having had a discussion in depth yesterday and fiddling around with it, I made up my mind.
Tbf your remarks on WSE2 and how it's no different from the Lemoncheats FOV mod are not entirely correct. Many people use WSE2 to fix fps issues, and to have a smoother game. Whereas Lemoncheats FOV mod is purely to gain an 'advantage' over others by installing a mod that only does 1 thing that is controversial.
Lemoncheats you also need to buy, and WSE2 is on the Taleworld forums and used in other mods
(P.S. I haven't read your whole statement entirely so if i'm incorrect, please correct me)
Yeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
I think we should have a community vote to not allow fietta to post on FSE
Bro with your posts, you’d be the first one to get exiled cos ur so stupid
Yeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Admittedly lemoncheats FOV in comparison to WSE2 FOV is exaggerated and WSE2 does not allow for that amount of zoom out, lemoncheats FOV is a ‘pay to have advantage’ pack. In principle, as I’ve said although to differing degrees, LemoncheatsFOV and WSE2 are two programs outside the base game that offers unfair advantage to those players who install it.
Same principle, ones a hack that you have to pay for and the other is just a hack for free, if WSE2 required players to pay to use, would you still back it to be used in competitive tournaments? Or would it be considered a cheats like lemoncheatsFOV? ( just a shittier version in regards to FOV argument)
I’ve encountered before in 2018/2019 where one of my player consequently got banned from GLBT Tournament I believe or something because he posted a video of him using a zoom hack in a tournament and was banned from that series.
Yeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
I deleted maskmans post, calm, tho he is righti think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
Yeah that is odd as fuck Fietta. If you're gonna to allow people to post. Allow EVERYONE to post. Not just someone who seems to support your claims. That's just weaselly. Show some backbone and either delete Maskman's comment. Or Open the thread up to others to post their thoughts.
Stop being a pussy ass bitchYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Practice what you preach kid
Yeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Don’t think you understand the difference between my posts and yours, I argue and know what I’m talking about, you argue and actually have no idea what you’re even saying and come out with probably the most dumb dribble I’ve seen in posts, ‘it doesn’t block for you guys’, please just fuck off.I deleted maskmans post, calm, tho he is righti think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
Yeah that is odd as fuck Fietta. If you're gonna to allow people to post. Allow EVERYONE to post. Not just someone who seems to support your claims. That's just weaselly. Show some backbone and either delete Maskman's comment. Or Open the thread up to others to post their thoughts.
Stop being a pussy ass bitchYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Practice what you preach kid
Considering you’ve been preaching that WSE2 is great for you because it removes animation glitches, and suddenly now learn that it doesn’t, where do you stand?
I was obviously taking the piss when I said ‘stop being a pussy ass bitch’, you just sounded so desperate in that post that it would be rude not to.
Alf and Hertz, a clear duo that still no one listens to.
I think we should have a community vote to not allow fietta to post on FSE
Bro with your posts, you’d be the first one to get exiled cos ur so stupidYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do thatAdmittedly lemoncheats FOV in comparison to WSE2 FOV is exaggerated and WSE2 does not allow for that amount of zoom out, lemoncheats FOV is a ‘pay to have advantage’ pack. In principle, as I’ve said although to differing degrees, LemoncheatsFOV and WSE2 are two programs outside the base game that offers unfair advantage to those players who install it.
Same principle, ones a hack that you have to pay for and the other is just a hack for free, if WSE2 required players to pay to use, would you still back it to be used in competitive tournaments? Or would it be considered a cheats like lemoncheatsFOV? ( just a shittier version in regards to FOV argument)
I’ve encountered before in 2018/2019 where one of my player consequently got banned from GLBT Tournament I believe or something because he posted a video of him using a zoom hack in a tournament and was banned from that series.
If people had to pay for WSE2 then I doubt many if anyone would use it that's true. However, It isn't a paid mod. Therefore it is able to be used by EVERYONE meaning that it really is on the person whether they want to play with it or not. Everything is in place for them to use it. There is a guide and download links to all the stuff you need. And again, everyone is forgetting Gibby's solution. If this is implemented how it was broached. There will be no FOV discussion as it will be locked at 75.
To make things clear, when I refer to WSE2 - I just refer to the FOV side as a cheat, the smoother FPS isn't cheating imo but I understand as to why a few people may think that - ultimately a compromise is what's needed.I think we should have a community vote to not allow fietta to post on FSE
Bro with your posts, you’d be the first one to get exiled cos ur so stupidYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do thatAdmittedly lemoncheats FOV in comparison to WSE2 FOV is exaggerated and WSE2 does not allow for that amount of zoom out, lemoncheats FOV is a ‘pay to have advantage’ pack. In principle, as I’ve said although to differing degrees, LemoncheatsFOV and WSE2 are two programs outside the base game that offers unfair advantage to those players who install it.
Same principle, ones a hack that you have to pay for and the other is just a hack for free, if WSE2 required players to pay to use, would you still back it to be used in competitive tournaments? Or would it be considered a cheats like lemoncheatsFOV? ( just a shittier version in regards to FOV argument)
I’ve encountered before in 2018/2019 where one of my player consequently got banned from GLBT Tournament I believe or something because he posted a video of him using a zoom hack in a tournament and was banned from that series.
If people had to pay for WSE2 then I doubt many if anyone would use it that's true. However, It isn't a paid mod. Therefore it is able to be used by EVERYONE meaning that it really is on the person whether they want to play with it or not. Everything is in place for them to use it. There is a guide and download links to all the stuff you need. And again, everyone is forgetting Gibby's solution. If this is implemented how it was broached. There will be no FOV discussion as it will be locked at 75.
So, the only difference between the principle of lemoncheatsFOV (a hack) and WSE2 (a supposedly legitimate program) is a pay wall? If WSE2 was paid would you honestly be as so convinced in your argument to defend it?
I spoke about this on TS yesterday with a few of my regimental members but to reiterate, those younger players and especially to those more experienced players who have used it in the past and kept it under wraps, many of whom are in my regiment, I am actually disgusted and disappointed. Why can't people just play what's left of the game without trying to cheese their way through it.
SpoilerYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Don’t think you understand the difference between my posts and yours, I argue and know what I’m talking about, you argue and actually have no idea what you’re even saying and come out with probably the most dumb dribble I’ve seen in posts, ‘it doesn’t block for you guys’, please just fuck off.I deleted maskmans post, calm, tho he is righti think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
Yeah that is odd as fuck Fietta. If you're gonna to allow people to post. Allow EVERYONE to post. Not just someone who seems to support your claims. That's just weaselly. Show some backbone and either delete Maskman's comment. Or Open the thread up to others to post their thoughts.
Stop being a pussy ass bitchYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Practice what you preach kid
Considering you’ve been preaching that WSE2 is great for you because it removes animation glitches, and suddenly now learn that it doesn’t, where do you stand?
I was obviously taking the piss when I said ‘stop being a pussy ass bitch’, you just sounded so desperate in that post that it would be rude not to.
Alf and Hertz, a clear duo that still no one listens to.[close]
I said that it removed the sideblock glitch for me I hold my hands up to that. And then I got the sideblock glitch for the first time after using the mod for 3 weeks. Not exactly backtracking or anything. Just sods law as I already said in my post.
If nobody listens to me and alf, why do you always run to FSE to reply to our posts as soon as they drop? Pipe down Fietta, RT got your head way too big.
Preaching you don't want to be a 'child' by insulting people. Get caught out and then say 'oh I was taking the piss'.
And give over on this WSE2 crusade, you've been using it for over a year without wanting it banned. You have no leg to stand on.
I already said in my post that If WSE2 was paid nobody would be using it, and this discussion wouldn't be happening. Therefore nobody would be defending it. But you don't need to pay.SpoilerTo make things clear, when I refer to WSE2 - I just refer to the FOV side as a cheat, the smoother FPS isn't cheating imo but I understand as to why a few people may think that - ultimately a compromise is what's needed.I think we should have a community vote to not allow fietta to post on FSE
Bro with your posts, you’d be the first one to get exiled cos ur so stupidYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do thatAdmittedly lemoncheats FOV in comparison to WSE2 FOV is exaggerated and WSE2 does not allow for that amount of zoom out, lemoncheats FOV is a ‘pay to have advantage’ pack. In principle, as I’ve said although to differing degrees, LemoncheatsFOV and WSE2 are two programs outside the base game that offers unfair advantage to those players who install it.
Same principle, ones a hack that you have to pay for and the other is just a hack for free, if WSE2 required players to pay to use, would you still back it to be used in competitive tournaments? Or would it be considered a cheats like lemoncheatsFOV? ( just a shittier version in regards to FOV argument)
I’ve encountered before in 2018/2019 where one of my player consequently got banned from GLBT Tournament I believe or something because he posted a video of him using a zoom hack in a tournament and was banned from that series.
If people had to pay for WSE2 then I doubt many if anyone would use it that's true. However, It isn't a paid mod. Therefore it is able to be used by EVERYONE meaning that it really is on the person whether they want to play with it or not. Everything is in place for them to use it. There is a guide and download links to all the stuff you need. And again, everyone is forgetting Gibby's solution. If this is implemented how it was broached. There will be no FOV discussion as it will be locked at 75.
So, the only difference between the principle of lemoncheatsFOV (a hack) and WSE2 (a supposedly legitimate program) is a pay wall? If WSE2 was paid would you honestly be as so convinced in your argument to defend it?
I spoke about this on TS yesterday with a few of my regimental members but to reiterate, those younger players and especially to those more experienced players who have used it in the past and kept it under wraps, many of whom are in my regiment, I am actually disgusted and disappointed. Why can't people just play what's left of the game without trying to cheese their way through it.[close]
Didn't this guy who made WSE2 got the money to make a WSE2 version without the FOV slider? I believe Gibby made a post about that. Like said before, if it really helps people to make their game run better without an FOV slider then it shouldn't be a problem right?
SpoilerYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Don’t think you understand the difference between my posts and yours, I argue and know what I’m talking about, you argue and actually have no idea what you’re even saying and come out with probably the most dumb dribble I’ve seen in posts, ‘it doesn’t block for you guys’, please just fuck off.I deleted maskmans post, calm, tho he is righti think the most offensive part is the fact that its a locked thread with only maskman's post representing only 1 side of the argument
Yeah that is odd as fuck Fietta. If you're gonna to allow people to post. Allow EVERYONE to post. Not just someone who seems to support your claims. That's just weaselly. Show some backbone and either delete Maskman's comment. Or Open the thread up to others to post their thoughts.
Stop being a pussy ass bitchYeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Practice what you preach kid
Considering you’ve been preaching that WSE2 is great for you because it removes animation glitches, and suddenly now learn that it doesn’t, where do you stand?
I was obviously taking the piss when I said ‘stop being a pussy ass bitch’, you just sounded so desperate in that post that it would be rude not to.
Alf and Hertz, a clear duo that still no one listens to.[close]
I said that it removed the sideblock glitch for me I hold my hands up to that. And then I got the sideblock glitch for the first time after using the mod for 3 weeks. Not exactly backtracking or anything. Just sods law as I already said in my post.
If nobody listens to me and alf, why do you always run to FSE to reply to our posts as soon as they drop? Pipe down Fietta, RT got your head way too big.
Preaching you don't want to be a 'child' by insulting people. Get caught out and then say 'oh I was taking the piss'.
And give over on this WSE2 crusade, you've been using it for over a year without wanting it banned. You have no leg to stand on.
RT got my head too big? Guess you have no idea of my Native past, can assure you that’s far worse. I’ve been having arguments without attacking people for years on this forum, even though I’ve received personal attacks and slander myself. Guess you could call me a child, but fuck me pales in comparison to how you talk to people.
Holy fuck get a life retardsYou have nearly 7500 posts... You do it first and the rest of us will follow suit
7500 posts of posting quick nonsense mate, not writing booksHoly fuck get a life retardsYou have nearly 7500 posts... You do it first and the rest of us will follow suit
idk what the point of trying to downplay the significance of wse2's feeling of gameplay is. After so many reports of people saying it just makes the game feel better there's legit no point even trying to argue against it. The improvements wse2 offers are significant enough for a lot of people to not care about the fov sliders. Having increased FOV isn't game breakingly broken cheats like unblockable and autoblock. Increased FOV doesn't make you better at the game, but it does allow you to play in a way you necessarily couldn't with narrower FOV. This is important because saying that it's just cheats is kinda half-true.
I don't think removing the FOV-slider is really even that necessary, since the program is well known and available for everyone to use, and it doesn't fundamentally break the game.
Why would you say your opinions are "quick nonsense"? Mental health is a very serious issue and we are all here to help you Vegi!7500 posts of posting quick nonsense mate, not writing booksHoly fuck get a life retardsYou have nearly 7500 posts... You do it first and the rest of us will follow suit
7500 post and reading a books written by others*7500 posts of posting quick nonsense mate, not writing booksHoly fuck get a life retardsYou have nearly 7500 posts... You do it first and the rest of us will follow suit
Please help me Phailur... :'(Why would you say your opinions are "quick nonsense"? Mental health is a very serious issue and we are all here to help you Vegi!7500 posts of posting quick nonsense mate, not writing booksHoly fuck get a life retardsYou have nearly 7500 posts... You do it first and the rest of us will follow suit
Funny u think that7500 post and reading a books written by others*7500 posts of posting quick nonsense mate, not writing booksHoly fuck get a life retardsYou have nearly 7500 posts... You do it first and the rest of us will follow suit
Why is it always the same monkeys insulting each other on every single discussion
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I think people forget this this isn't only about GFs, this also has an effect on competitive CAV, lbs and 1v1s.
Believing banning WSE stops FOV cheats is deluded, people who want to actually cheat still will, trying to take a moral high ground when people have been using it for over a year and nobody said anything is actually so ratty, get over it
yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without it
yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without it
If you don't think changing FOV outside the scope of the original game isn't cheating then you're very silly. People aren't even denying that FOV isn't cheating, people just have different opinions on how 'big' of a cheat it is.
If you don't think changing FOV outside the scope of the original game isn't cheating then you're very silly. People aren't even denying that FOV isn't cheating, people just have different opinions on how 'big' of a cheat it is.
That’s your opinion, I have mine, again with the need to put personal attacks in everything you write, do me a favour and just stop referring to me thanks
yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
nice tell everyone how to fov cheat, but again see my most recent post.yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
Yeah fair enough, I got confused between WSE2 and Native. Too many Mount and blade folders :-X My bad then. I waffle too sometimesyeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
For clarification, I just tried this, field of view isn't an option in rgl.config on both the steam and non-steam version, only in WSE2's version.Spoilerfirst_time = 0
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SpoilerDue to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.
I'll make it simple
Pros:
More stable smoother game (though after now trying it, not a big deal)
Cons:
FoV Slider (able to see a foot behind you, obviously advantageous and no one can deny that)
Banner Viewing (not entirely relevant but allows for line-ups)
Potential hidden 'heal' commands which don't get added to logs (unknown, but Flashkodr mentioned that you are able to send the server commands to heal players etc discreetly)
Somewhere in between:
Improved hitbox registry (does something where you're less likely to TK due to some ragdoll stuff)
Solution:
WSE2 was recently updated and a server-side FoV lock is in place, this will mitigate the most major issue with WSE2, if that doesn't work then just ban it.[close]
The game is massively improved with WSE2. The game breaking teleportation glitch is removed with the client (where you teleport with frame caps above 150) which is essential for people with higher hz monitors, as otherwise they would be forced to play with their non-native hz rate, which is a massive quality downgrade and can introduce input lag. Chuck vid (https://youtu.be/OqFEX9neEfA/) Example with Chuckster but this applies to any fps over 150.
Apart from that, the huge fps boost from WSE2 helps people with mid-low tier PCs to achieve that minimum 144 fps, which is useful for any competitive event. Obviously a collection of anecdotes, but getting sent so many messages on steam on how the client has helped people with their game lag, it seems it will only help the competitive scene for this game and try to keep it more fun.
WSE2's FOV slider is obviously the biggest upset that comes with the client. However, I still believe the advantages of the FOV slider are being overexaggerated. Personally, I play on default fov and hear from a lot of top players on how the FOV slider has minimal impact, except in rotations(still minor as you get the same effect from angling yourself properly).
Bannerviewing? If anything, this would seriously inhibit your ability to play as you would be seeing the enemy's banners during any sort of melee (open melee, close rotation switches). Potential hidden heal commands? This seems like bullshit and would need a followup.
Improved hitbox registry is also a miss as people have plenty of teamkills with the client or miss stabs while people are stunned or any other base game breaking glitches. Sideblock glitches and no animation stabs still exist within the client as well.
Regarding the FOV Slider, I have also found some quite interesting information.
Remembering back to watching a 3kliksphilip video 3KLIKS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsp7VIKTuY/) . Warband's FOV system is identical in that the FOV is calculated through the value of the base FOV along with the aspect ratio of the resolution you play with.
https://youtu.be/frsp7VIKTuY?t=97 You can see how playing at a resolution of 1920x540 grants you a massive field of view advantage. Playing on a resolution of 1920x800 is equivalent to playing on 1920x1080 with the fov slider set to 90
This is also on the default steam game.1920x1080 with Default FOV(https://i.imgur.com/8MqpbnZ.jpg)[close]1920x800 with Default FOV(https://i.imgur.com/ffr4beg.jpg)[close]1920x1080 with 90 FOV(https://i.imgur.com/IcNOc9D.jpg)[close]
The FOVs were customised using them from a texture pack, which was the most common way people had an FOV slider. It was literally in a 92nd texture pack.
As you can all see, the use of a simple resolution change(done with either CRU or through your graphics panel settings) grants you a greater advantage, as it only eliminates your vertical vision (which has almost no utility in NW anyway) and doesn't introduce a weird distortion on your screen.
In the end, the solution is already here with Gibby's 50 euro modification to WSE2. However, if it doesn't function correctly, then it seems the only valid options would be to straight up allow it or introduce a poll for the players to decide.
Wait, using WSE2 means I could actually use my 240hz??? Downloading it right now.
You're terrible at arguing Alf, HiReaper made the point that 1920x800 is the same as 1920x1080 at 90fov, which evidently in those screenshots, it's absolutely not
If people are complaining that Amaterasu have been using it, then wouldn't he be using it here?Well the video is over a year old I won't speak to that. But to me it sounds like you are taking whiny fucking NW players complaining about potential cheats and using it as an arguement.
Ngl I was a bit confused when I read that lmfaoYou're terrible at arguing Alf, HiReaper made the point that 1920x800 is the same as 1920x1080 at 90fov, which evidently in those screenshots, it's absolutely not
You can’t actually be serious, the horizontal FOV is exactly the same on 90 as it is 1920x800, almost perfectly the same.
At this point I think you’re just in denial for the sake of it
You're terrible at arguing Alf, HiReaper made the point that 1920x800 is the same as 1920x1080 at 90fov, which evidently in those screenshots, it's absolutely not
You can’t actually be serious, the horizontal FOV is exactly the same on 90 as it is 1920x800, almost perfectly the same.
At this point I think you’re just in denial for the sake of it
I think he’s talking about the left and right like maximum seeing rather than behind you
You can see your feet… if you have the reaction time to turn and block someone when they’re that close to you you’re on drugsOr in your case you are just mentally deficient but fuck it who's judging
You can see your feet… if you have the reaction time to turn and block someone when they’re that close to you you’re on drugsOr in your case you are just mentally deficient but fuck it who's judging
Personally, I don't think many if any people will go the extra step to start digging into files or installing other third-party software to solely get FOV, but if it's readily available on a 'legal' client, then obviously people are going to use it, which is the problem.
Honestly true, I need new glasses every few months to keep up. They told me to go to Germany for surgery, but when I spoke to the eye clinic they just said "The 72nd remembers" ???You can see your feet… if you have the reaction time to turn and block someone when they’re that close to you you’re on drugsOr in your case you are just mentally deficient but fuck it who's judging
You’re literally so old you probably can’t even see the screen with your cataracts chriseh
I mean if we're being real smart, you'll realise that it's impossible to get a 1920x800 resolution in both WSE2 and Native (I tried both, doesn't actually work it forces 4:3 or 16:9), what HiReaper done was he took at 1920 x 1080p screenshot with 90FOV and cut the bottom half, which is why it's in the same position with the cloud location etc.Are you sure? Pretty certain you could do it by using something like CRU to force custom resolutions. NVidia and Intel have a similar tool built into their control panels.
what HiReaper done was he took at 1920 x 1080p screenshot with 90FOV and cut the bottom half, which is why it's in the same position with the cloud location etc.What the fuck are you talking about?
Are you sure? Pretty certain you could do it by using something like CRU to force custom resolutions. NVidia and Intel have a similar tool built into their control panels.
You can literally right click, inspect element and it shows you the resolution of the screenshot
The clouds don’t move fietta, what game do you think we’re playing
Yeah you are being a retard at the moment lolAre you sure? Pretty certain you could do it by using something like CRU to force custom resolutions. NVidia and Intel have a similar tool built into their control panels.
Maybe but those screenshots that HiReaper posted look the same and if I'm wrong (probably am) the effort of doing that is again, not really reasonable and 90fov still lets u see behind you, so dunno still seems like a big issue to me
Yeah you are being a retard at the moment lolAre you sure? Pretty certain you could do it by using something like CRU to force custom resolutions. NVidia and Intel have a similar tool built into their control panels.
Maybe but those screenshots that HiReaper posted look the same and if I'm wrong (probably am) the effort of doing that is again, not really reasonable and 90fov still lets u see behind you, so dunno still seems like a big issue to me
(https://media.tenor.com/Fg7Jrii-17kAAAAM/james-franco-wait-what.gif)Yeah you are being a retard at the moment lolAre you sure? Pretty certain you could do it by using something like CRU to force custom resolutions. NVidia and Intel have a similar tool built into their control panels.
Maybe but those screenshots that HiReaper posted look the same and if I'm wrong (probably am) the effort of doing that is again, not really reasonable and 90fov still lets u see behind you, so dunno still seems like a big issue to me
You just said you can inspect to see the resolution of the screenshot; I just said that you can cut the bottom off the image so the height is 800p, it's called cropping
(https://media.tenor.com/Fg7Jrii-17kAAAAM/james-franco-wait-what.gif)Yeah you are being a retard at the moment lolAre you sure? Pretty certain you could do it by using something like CRU to force custom resolutions. NVidia and Intel have a similar tool built into their control panels.
Maybe but those screenshots that HiReaper posted look the same and if I'm wrong (probably am) the effort of doing that is again, not really reasonable and 90fov still lets u see behind you, so dunno still seems like a big issue to me
You just said you can inspect to see the resolution of the screenshot; I just said that you can cut the bottom off the image so the height is 800p, it's called cropping
I'm sorry but what don't you understand? I'll help you out and recreate it just for you.If he cropped the image, then stretched it out to fill 1920x1080 then the screenshot would be warped and deformed you fucking plank
Can we ban Fralla8 for cheating?
I'm sorry but what don't you understand? I'll help you out and recreate it just for you.If he cropped the image, then stretched it out to fill 1920x1080 then the screenshot would be warped and deformed you fucking plank
Fietta what the fuck are you talking about
Fietta what the fuck are you talking aboutFucking thank you. Its almsot like Gibby, if you did crop the picture, it would defeat the entire point of your post!!!
Yes actually 10+ years of working in the industry lmaoFietta what the fuck are you talking about
I don't know if people have any IT knowledge but cropping is pretty simple
You must be trolling now I can't handle itFietta what the fuck are you talking aboutFucking thank you.
Its almsot like Gibby, if you did crop the picture, it would defeat the entire point of your post!!!
Swear some people are just technologically retarded sometimes
You must be trolling now I can't handle itFietta what the fuck are you talking aboutFucking thank you.
Its almsot like Gibby, if you did crop the picture, it would defeat the entire point of your post!!!
Swear some people are just technologically retarded sometimes
@Herishey please temp ban this man he's posting autism on main
Oh no here we go, Fietta is turning into a woman :-X
Losing the argument and is now moving the goal posts :-X
THE MAN JUST SAID THE PICTURES ARENT EDITED
You must be trolling now I can't handle itFietta what the fuck are you talking aboutFucking thank you.
Its almsot like Gibby, if you did crop the picture, it would defeat the entire point of your post!!!
Swear some people are just technologically retarded sometimes
@Herishey please temp ban this man he's posting autism on main
Bro you said 'fill it out 1920 x 1080', like what are you even chatting about now, you can just remove some off the top and bottom and repost what you're not changing the fucking width
Oh no here we go, Fietta is turning into a woman :-XChriseh hating on transgender people, now i have seen it all
SpoilerYou must be trolling now I can't handle itFietta what the fuck are you talking aboutFucking thank you.
Its almsot like Gibby, if you did crop the picture, it would defeat the entire point of your post!!!
Swear some people are just technologically retarded sometimes
@Herishey please temp ban this man he's posting autism on main
Bro you said 'fill it out 1920 x 1080', like what are you even chatting about now, you can just remove some off the top and bottom and repost what you're not changing the fucking width[close]
When you are at this point of reasoning nothing anyone shows you will convince you at all. You already know my position Fietta but you are acting so weirdly in some of these threads
Chriseh coming in hot he literally got out of his wheelchair just for thisI'm literally dripping with sweat right now
It's like talking to a brick wall, since you don't know how cropping could work to make the photo fit a narrative, I'll just stop.WHAT NARRATIVE, THE PICTURES ARENT EDITED, NO CROPPING
Chriseh coming in hot he literally got out of his wheelchair just for thisI'm literally dripping with sweat right now
This is the kind of shit that gets me off, FSE back and forthsIt's like talking to a brick wall, since you don't know how cropping could work to make the photo fit a narrative, I'll just stop.WHAT NARRATIVE, THE PICTURES ARENT EDITED, NO CROPPING
YOU'VE MADE IT UP IN YOUR HEAD
The only man who could have confirmed your whole point:Chriseh coming in hot he literally got out of his wheelchair just for thisI'm literally dripping with sweat right now
This is the kind of shit that gets me off, FSE back and forthsIt's like talking to a brick wall, since you don't know how cropping could work to make the photo fit a narrative, I'll just stop.WHAT NARRATIVE, THE PICTURES ARENT EDITED, NO CROPPING
YOU'VE MADE IT UP IN YOUR HEAD
ok
Fietta what the fuck are you talking about
Changing the title of the debate stream to: The Roast of Fietta | The Great WSE2 Debacle
Don't need to, please see EIC S2 finals match against 72ndChanging the title of the debate stream to: The Roast of Fietta | The Great WSE2 Debacle
Going against the majority is my favourite past time, would be a good social experiment to see how quickly you can get people to hate you xd
Don't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either sideEver considered that if it's 10v1 then maybe the 1 is wrong?
Ever considered that if it's 10v1 then maybe the 1 is wrong?Reeeeallly makes you think
Don't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either sideEver considered that if it's 10v1 then maybe the 1 is wrong?
Don't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either side
We should move on from this dead drama.
Probably, though it's hard not to reply to Alf when he spouts bollocksYou've literally been doing it for the past hour at least
Probably, though it's hard not to reply to Alf when he spouts bollocksYou've literally been doing it for the past hour at least
Just wait Giorno till the end of EICDon't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either side
We should move on from this dead drama.
55th is down for some shithousery. If any reg is interested hmu ;D
You are kind of putting yourself in the firing line. And Avid users? can't speak for the other 10 but i've used it for 3 weeks, I would say the avid users are half of RT and some others who used it for the past year. And seen a massive different in my enjoyment of the game. So of course i'm against it. But if there aren't another 9 people coming out defending the banning of WSE2 does that not speak volumes itself?Don't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either sideEver considered that if it's 10v1 then maybe the 1 is wrong?
Not really, I just think the 10 are avid WSE2 users, it would be a different story if people cared enough about drama to start debating the banning of WSE2, but targeting one person I guess is more fun
You are kind of putting yourself in the firing line.Don't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either sideEver considered that if it's 10v1 then maybe the 1 is wrong?
Not really, I just think the 10 are avid WSE2 users, it would be a different story if people cared enough about drama to start debating the banning of WSE2, but targeting one person I guess is more fun
SpoilerYou can clearly see the pictures are cropped using this algorithm in your command line:
Using a program of choice type in
echo Hello World
pause
save it as hello.cmd
If you are using "Notepad" as an editor, you should pay much attention to the saved name, as Notepad tends to add always a .txt extension to your files, which means that the actual name of your file might be hello.cmd.txt. To avoid this, in the save dialog box:
In the File name field enter the name in double quotes, e.g. "hello.cmd"
In the Save as type field select All Files, instead of the default Text Document option.
If the file has been saved properly, its icon should be similar to (Windows Vista):
cmd icon
You may also consider to disable the option "Hide extension for known file types" in File Explorer folder view options. In this case, file names are always displayed with their extensions.
To execute hello.cmd there are two possibilities. If you are using the Windows graphical shell, just double click on its icon.
If you want to use the Command Prompt itself, you must first identify the directory where you saved hello.cmd. In this regard, if you open File Explorer with +E. In the windows listing files, you normally read the name of the directory path containing them. You can therefore identify the directory of hello.cmd. Windows directory names tend to be quite long and typing them is error prone. It is better if you select and copy the directory path in the clipboard for later pasting.
Start the Command Prompt. You read a line similar to this.
Microsoft Windows [Version ...]
(c) ... Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\...>
The version/year of Windows of course depends on yours. In the the final line, before >, you read the path of the directory which is current. You should make current the directory where your script is. For this reason enter the change directory command cd, using a line similar to the following:
cd <dirpath>
Instead of <dirpath>, paste the name of the directory you previously copied.
To paste the directory path, in Windows 10, you just need to type Ctrl-C, as you would in an editor. For older systems you should be able to do this by right clicking in the cmd window.
After entering the command, note that current path, before >, changes accordingly.
You can now run your hello script by simply entering:
hello[close]
giornio, please tell me thats not your acutal deck you are using on your profile pic
You are kind of putting yourself in the firing line.Don't even think 92nd vs 45thN drama could top this one, though this isn't really too big, it's just the same 10 stubborn people who don't fancy budging to either sideEver considered that if it's 10v1 then maybe the 1 is wrong?
Not really, I just think the 10 are avid WSE2 users, it would be a different story if people cared enough about drama to start debating the banning of WSE2, but targeting one person I guess is more fun
It's because I miss my 16-year-old Native days, have to relive them somehow and I'm not too fond of having cheats, so I'll fight against them yknow
It's because I miss my 16-year-old Native days, have to relive them somehow and I'm not too fond of having cheats, so I'll fight against them yknowI'm a no life CSGO player who has had to play open qualifiers filled with cheaters constantly so I am of course also against them.
It's because I miss my 16-year-old Native days, have to relive them somehow and I'm not too fond of having cheats, so I'll fight against them yknowI'm a no life CSGO player who has had to play open qualifiers filled with cheaters constantly so I am of course also against them.
Its just your points are dog
You can clearly see the pictures are cropped using this algorithm in your command line:
Using a program of choice type in
echo Hello World
pause
save it as hello.cmd
If you are using "Notepad" as an editor, you should pay much attention to the saved name, as Notepad tends to add always a .txt extension to your files, which means that the actual name of your file might be hello.cmd.txt. To avoid this, in the save dialog box:
In the File name field enter the name in double quotes, e.g. "hello.cmd"
In the Save as type field select All Files, instead of the default Text Document option.
If the file has been saved properly, its icon should be similar to (Windows Vista):
cmd icon
You may also consider to disable the option "Hide extension for known file types" in File Explorer folder view options. In this case, file names are always displayed with their extensions.
To execute hello.cmd there are two possibilities. If you are using the Windows graphical shell, just double click on its icon.
If you want to use the Command Prompt itself, you must first identify the directory where you saved hello.cmd. In this regard, if you open File Explorer with +E. In the windows listing files, you normally read the name of the directory path containing them. You can therefore identify the directory of hello.cmd. Windows directory names tend to be quite long and typing them is error prone. It is better if you select and copy the directory path in the clipboard for later pasting.
Start the Command Prompt. You read a line similar to this.
Microsoft Windows [Version ...]
(c) ... Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\...>
The version/year of Windows of course depends on yours. In the the final line, before >, you read the path of the directory which is current. You should make current the directory where your script is. For this reason enter the change directory command cd, using a line similar to the following:
cd <dirpath>
Instead of <dirpath>, paste the name of the directory you previously copied.
To paste the directory path, in Windows 10, you just need to type Ctrl-C, as you would in an editor. For older systems you should be able to do this by right clicking in the cmd window.
After entering the command, note that current path, before >, changes accordingly.
You can now run your hello script by simply entering:
hello
Fietta what the fuck are you talking about
Time to stop the bandwagoning on fietta tho, hes actually going schizo.
Scheisse Schalkecome 1v1 IRL amk
yes?
no?
Scheisse Schalkeno to football/soccer in general.
yes?
no?
I've chosen to use the mute feature on FSE and have found this to be quite useful when used on Fietta and would recommend others to do the same.
did someone say something?
come 1v1giornio, please tell me thats not your acutal deck you are using on your profile pic
I'm a lowly hardstuck 5000 trophy scrub :'(
yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
That's weird. When I open the file, I can't find any field of view text line. I used CTRL + F to find "FOV", "FieldofView" but can't find anything.yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
That's weird. When I open the file, I can't find any field of view text line. I used CTRL + F to find "FOV", "FieldofView" but can't find anything.yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
yeah but you gotta admit, its easier to cheat with WSE2 fov than it is without itThis I disagree with. You can change FOV by searching rgl.config in your mount and blade folder located in your documents. Ctrl+F to find FieldOfView. Then change it. It’s so much easier and faster than downloading native launcher, WSE2 files and NW mod.
Why are people downloading non steam for wse?
giornio, please tell me thats not your acutal deck you are using on your profile pic
Python is that ur cat
have gibby and blitz had make up sex yetWhen you get rid of that yee yee ass haircut maybe we will
Hello, does anyone want to platoon in world of tanks?only if you are on eu servers :-\
Yeah chriseh is a nerdHello, does anyone want to platoon in world of tanks?only if you are on eu servers :-\
Everytime I update WoT I play 2 games then remember castration is more enjoyableYeah chriseh is a nerdHello, does anyone want to platoon in world of tanks?only if you are on eu servers :-\
i remember that after 1 mmEverytime I update WoT I play 2 games then remember castration is more enjoyableYeah chriseh is a nerdHello, does anyone want to platoon in world of tanks?only if you are on eu servers :-\