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Title: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 03, 2013, 08:55:41 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fl5e1xqxrf%2FBanner_The_Great_Northen_War.jpg&hash=83158d1ed8de327204514a9c26bcb70e3527c5b9) (http://postimage.org/)

History
The Great Northern War (1700–21) was a conflict in which a coalition led by the Tsardom of Russia successfully contested the supremacy of the Swedish Empire in Northern Europe, Central Europe and Eastern Europe. The initial leaders of the anti-Swedish alliance were Peter the Great of Russia, Frederick IV of Denmark–Norway and Augustus II the Strong of Saxony-Poland-Lithuania. Frederick IV and August II were forced out of the alliance in 1700 and 1706 respectively, but re-joined it in 1709. George I of Brunswick-Lüneburg (Hanover) joined the coalition in 1714 for Hanover and in 1717 for Britain, and Frederick William I of Brandenburg-Prussia joined it in 1715.
Charles XII led the Swedish army. On the Swedish side were Holstein-Gottorp, several Polish and Lithuanian magnates under Stanisław Leszczyński (1704–10) and cossacks under the Ukrainian Hetman Ivan Mazepa (1708–10). The Ottoman Empire temporarily hosted Charles XII of Sweden and intervened against Peter I.
The war started when an alliance of Denmark–Norway, Saxony and Russia declared war on the Swedish Empire, launching a threefold attack at Swedish Holstein-Gottorp, Swedish Livonia, and Swedish Ingria, sensing an opportunity as Sweden was ruled by the young Charles XII, who was eighteen years old and inexperienced at the time. Sweden parried the Danish and Russian attacks at Travendal and Narva, and in a counter-offensive pushed August II's forces through Lithuania and Poland to Saxony, dethroning August on the way and forcing him to acknowledge defeat in the Treaty of Altranstädt, which also secured the extradition and execution of Johann Reinhold Patkul, architect of the alliance seven years earlier. Peter I had meanwhile recovered and gained ground in Sweden's Baltic provinces, where he cemented Russia's access to the Baltic Sea by founding Saint Petersburg in 1703. Charles XII moved from Saxony into Russia to confront Peter, but the campaign ended with the destruction of the main Swedish army in Poltava (now Ukraine), and Charles's exile in Ottoman Bender. The Ottoman empire defeated the Russian army in the Pruth River Campaign, but the peace treaty was in the end without great consequence to Russia's position.
After Poltava, the initial anti-Swedish coalition was re-established and subsequently joined by Hanover and Prussia. The remaining Swedish forces in the plague stricken areas south and east of the Baltic Sea were evicted, with the last city, Riga, falling in 1710. Most of the Swedish dominions were partitioned among the coalition members, destroying the Swedish dominium maris baltici. Sweden proper was invaded by Denmark–Norway from the west and by Russia from the east, occupying all of Finland by 1714. Though the Danish attacks were repulsed, Russia managed to occupy Finland. Charles XII opened up a Norwegian front, but was killed in Fredriksten in 1718.
The war ended with a defeat for Sweden, leaving Russia as the new major power in the Baltic Sea and an important new player in European politics. The formal conclusion of the war was marked by the Swedish-Hanoverian and Swedish-Prussian Treaties of Stockholm (1719), the Dano-Swedish Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721). Therein, Sweden ceded her exemption from the Sound Dues, lost the Baltic provinces and the northern part of Swedish Pomerania. The peace treaties also ended her alliance with Holstein-Gottorp. Hanover gained Bremen-Verden, Brandenburg-Prussia incorporated the Oder estuary, Russia secured the Baltic provinces, and Denmark strengthened her position in Schleswig-Holstein. In Sweden, the absolute monarchy had come to an end with Charles XII's death, and the Age of Liberty began.

Planned Features
*An accurate representation of The Great Northern War!
*5 factions: Sweden, Russia, Prussia, Poland-Saxony and Denmark!
*Period Units with period uniforms!
*Period Weaponry!
*New Maps!
*And much more!

Team
Sven von Hohenfelde - Team Leader, Research, Public Representation, Coding

DanP346 - Modeling, Texturing

Thank you Dekkers for making the map for the battle of Poltava!

We are looking for good Modelers, Coders and Map makers!

Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 03, 2013, 08:55:54 pm
Update #1
Spoiler
*All basic coding done,factions etc!

*Finished with the Russian and the Swedish regiment list!

*Two Russian Uniforms!
(https://i.imgur.com/663YYRj.jpg)


*Finished with the battle of Poltava
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F3prle3dyz%2F2013_04_08_00002.jpg&hash=2089017be32c1529a83c9e5e6804dce318e77bd1) (http://postimg.org/image/6wm4xpyev/full/)
Thank you Dekkers  :D
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Update #2
Spoiler

New uniform with a couple of variants.
(https://i.imgur.com/sXd9Wqh.jpg)


A swedish musket.
(https://i.imgur.com/Gau71rf.jpg)

And some signatures!
(https://i.imgur.com/8txbujC.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/8txbujC.png[/img][/url]
(https://i.imgur.com/rccnyHZ.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/rccnyHZ.png[/img][/url]
(https://i.imgur.com/iyLLEZ9.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/iyLLEZ9.png[/img][/url]
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Update #3
Spoiler


Had a lot of work to do recently so haven't been able to do much. Progress should speed up a bit now though.

*A sword
(https://i.imgur.com/uB9yNCx.png)


*Swedish artillery uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwL6t4.jpg)

*Dalregementet uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/xtwrAOu.jpg)

Pants are just temporary for these uniforms. Will make their own soon.
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 03, 2013, 08:56:15 pm
Regiment List

Russia
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Infantry
Sibirskiy Pehotniy Polk
Pskovskiy Pehotniy Polk
Smolenskaya Pehotniy Polk

Guards Infantry
Leib-Gvardii_Preobrazhenskiy Polk
Leib-Gvardii Semjonovska Polk

Cavalry
Vladimirskaya kavaleriyskogo polk
Sankt-Peterburg kavaleriyskogo polk
Moskovskaya dragunskogo polk
Kiyevskaya dragunskogo polk
Kavalergardskiy Polk

Specialist
Artilleriya Polk
fel'dmarshal Aleksandr Menshikov
Tsar' Petr Velikiy
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Sweden
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Infantry
I 15 Älvsborgs regemente
I 8 Upplands regemente
I 10 Södermanlands regemente
I 13 Dalregementet

Guards Infantry
I 1 Svea livgarde

Cavalry
Smålands kavalleriregemente
Västgöta kavalleriregemente
Upplands ståndsdragoner
Livregementet till häst
kavalleriregementet Adelsfanan
Riksänkedrottningens livregemente till häst

Specialist
Artilleriregementet
Fältmarskalk Magnus Stenbock
Kung Karl den XII
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: König on April 03, 2013, 08:57:00 pm
Interesting idea. I wish you luck!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Desert Thunda on April 03, 2013, 09:08:34 pm
Good luck! Wish for success!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: GoblinOverlord on April 03, 2013, 09:08:54 pm
Good luck comrade!  :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 03, 2013, 09:12:45 pm
Fuppin Genious!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Japan on April 03, 2013, 10:31:50 pm
Good luck.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: pod455 on April 03, 2013, 11:31:17 pm
YUSH!!!! Can't wait
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Jocam on April 04, 2013, 12:08:20 am
You could contact dekkers for maps, he is very skilled
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 04, 2013, 12:15:06 am
I was just reading, looks interesting :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: zac on April 04, 2013, 12:17:31 am
Best of luck :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Affjoris on April 04, 2013, 12:17:44 am
Good luck, hope you get your modding team set up as soon as possible :D.

Oh and you may want to put textures on your needed list, as i dont think you have one yet.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Willhelm on April 04, 2013, 12:33:54 am
So what muskets were in use at the time?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 04, 2013, 01:00:33 am
Flintlock Muskets :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: zac on April 04, 2013, 01:04:16 am
In the Great Northern War, a Russian army, one again severely under-armed with pikes and matchlock muskets, faced off against a superior Swedish force. King Charles XII of Sweden had the most modern and well equipped army in all of Europe.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 04, 2013, 01:05:26 am
Pfft.
Sweden>Russia anyday. They nearly always fought heavily outnumbered and most of the time won.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Willhelm on April 04, 2013, 01:06:03 am
Flintlock Muskets :)
Obviously, but surely you must know the types and models and names?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: EdwardC on April 04, 2013, 01:18:39 am
Ah, make sure to to add, the Dutch, as they would have been around.  :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: König on April 04, 2013, 01:24:20 am
Ah, make sure to to add, the Dutch, as they would have been around.  :)
Sorry, but as I recall, they offered little but their navy during this war. So, with the current state of naval combat, they would, alas, be a rather useless faction to add.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 04, 2013, 01:25:52 am
Ah, make sure to to add, the Dutch, as they would have been around.  :)
No. In this war, the Dutch contributed... 10 ships? Give or take.
They were so minor and unimportant that adding them as a faction shouldn't be considered.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: The Nutty Pig on April 04, 2013, 01:26:39 am
Nothing bad about another mod, good luck!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 04, 2013, 01:45:56 am

It is hard to say what model it was especially for the Swedes. The most of the based out of French muskets made from small    
village gun smiths. The muskets lookd smiller to the 1690's French marine Musket.
 
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Furrnox on April 04, 2013, 02:04:47 am
Good luck would love to play as Sweden :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Charles William on April 04, 2013, 02:21:28 am
Goodluck  :P ;D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 04, 2013, 02:52:19 am
I could do some Swedish voice acting.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: EdwardC on April 04, 2013, 03:52:44 am
Ah, guess you guys are right.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Van_Hulstein on April 04, 2013, 09:45:05 am
Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Gokiller on April 04, 2013, 10:08:02 am
Lesson 1 : First assemble a team if you can only code before getting on a project (starting a thread)!  ;)

Never the less best of luck! :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bramif on April 05, 2013, 09:59:51 pm
Good luck  :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Colonel Howe on April 05, 2013, 10:23:59 pm
i did a presentation on this in my western class and did a full overview of the battle of Poltava. Here is the video and good luck mate.  8)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB5nt-EBXr4[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Ardagh on April 05, 2013, 10:44:34 pm
I trust you will be including Ivan Mazepa and his Cossack Hetmanate(IE Ukraine)? Even as a cavalry unit on the Swedish faction, it would be nice to see some recognition of their assistance to the Swedish Empire. They are unfortunately overlooked or passed over as a footnote in a lot of resources on the Great Nothern War, which is saddening to see.

Glory to King Carolus, glory to the Caroleans. I look forward to seeing a rendition of Narva :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Agovich on April 06, 2013, 09:36:55 am
"I've seen the new model Russian army! Pff! Idiots! They will never find glory looking and fighting like that! "

Some old Russian soldier, long-retired, to his son, an officer of the Lifeguards of Peter I :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 06, 2013, 11:10:16 am
"I've seen the new model Russian army! Pff! Idiots! They will never find glory looking and fighting like that! "

Some old Russian soldier, long-retired, to his son, an officer of the Lifeguards of Peter I :)
Well, the Swedes looked better than the Russians, and simply WERE better.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 06, 2013, 11:15:05 am
"I've seen the new model Russian army! Pff! Idiots! They will never find glory looking and fighting like that! "

Some old Russian soldier, long-retired, to his son, an officer of the Lifeguards of Peter I :)
Well, the Swedes LOOK better than the Russians, and simply ARE better.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 06, 2013, 11:29:43 am
Hey. If you're going to make stupid, nationalistic comments, try to conjugate your verbs correctly.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 06, 2013, 12:10:26 pm
Hey. If you're going to make stupid, nationalistic comments, try to conjugate your verbs correctly.
What did I do wrong then?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 06, 2013, 01:27:18 pm
You've used the wrong grammatical person when conjugating the verb 'look'.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 06, 2013, 01:54:17 pm
You've used the wrong grammatical person when conjugating the verb 'look'.
Fixed.
Btw, why are you so anti-patriotic?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Agovich on April 06, 2013, 04:54:08 pm
German-loving Swede,....wow xD

And yes, I think I found a Montenegrin that had quite a nice participation in the war, Admiral Matija Kristovorofich Zmajevich of the Russian Imperial navy, in 1712 he joined the Russian navy, getting the rank of Capitan of Warship. In 1714 he becomes Capitan-Commodore, and at Gangut he scores highly by commanding a group of ships. In 1720 he's at Grengam, commanding a big group of ships, after the victory, promoted to Rear Admiral. After the peace in 1721 he's promoted to Vice-Admiral. In 1722 he commands the "Light fleet", in 1723 becomes the main person in leading the building of the VMF's river fleet.



In 1725, upon hearing of the Tsar's death, he rushes to Petersburg, where he's awarded the honor of carrying the Crown at the funeral. In 1727, he was promoted to full Admiral and given the Order of St. Alexander Nevsky 1st class, and also the position of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian navy.

During his role of commanding the VMF, the navy had  17 Ships of the Line, 145 galleys, 30 brigandines and around 400 more vessels of different kinds serving within it.

(By some historians>>) He was the builder of the Russian navy's codex of naval warfare and trade, of whom some parts are active even today.

Later on, when Anne came to the throne, he was court-martialed for stealing of properties, and at the last moment saved from execution by her personal order. He became the Governor-General of Astrakhan and held the rank of Vice-Admiral until his death.

By some historians, he was also decisive in the building and developing the Russian Black Sea fleet, which would go into big conquests with the Turks later on, and exists even today.

He died in 1735 and was buried in Moscow.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: EdwardC on April 06, 2013, 05:36:53 pm
Quote
You've used the wrong grammatical person when conjugating the verb 'look'.
Quote
Fixed.
Btw, why are you so anti-patriotic?
I agree this is tomfoolery.  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 06, 2013, 05:52:42 pm
I hope you liked the map I made for you :)

*Poltava that is*

:D

Also: Fetures          should be Features?
And gime credits :p
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Furrnox on April 06, 2013, 09:15:50 pm
I'm glad progress is being made :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Pinkknight on April 07, 2013, 02:00:12 pm
Uniforms from Poltava! (http://tacitus.nu/karoliner/slag/Poltava/svenskar.htm)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Willhelm on April 08, 2013, 08:15:43 pm
Have you seen this mod?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,203566.0.html
It's the Spanish war of succession, but it's in the same time frame as the Great Northern War and they might include that. It's only single player though, maybe you should strike a deal to develop the multiplayer part for them?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Humlenerd on April 08, 2013, 08:32:29 pm
You've used the wrong grammatical person when conjugating the verb 'look'.
Fixed.
Btw, why are you so anti-patriotic?
Political correctness :D You(as a Swede) should be familiar with this. It makes people feel morally superior to others.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/lnfw6.png)
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I do still love Docm, though ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 08, 2013, 09:03:50 pm
You've used the wrong grammatical person when conjugating the verb 'look'.
Fixed.
Btw, why are you so anti-patriotic?
Political correctness :D You(as a Swede) should be familiar with this. It makes people feel morally superior to others.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/lnfw6.png)
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I do still love Docm, though ;)
Now that I think of it this kind of behaviour is used alot.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: The Nutty Pig on April 08, 2013, 09:43:17 pm
You've used the wrong grammatical person when conjugating the verb 'look'.
Fixed.
Btw, why are you so anti-patriotic?
Political correctness :D You(as a Swede) should be familiar with this. It makes people feel morally superior to others.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/lnfw6.png)
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I do still love Docm, though ;)
Now that I think of it this kind of behaviour is used alot.
gawd i haet peple whu carrect yah grammer
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 08, 2013, 09:44:36 pm
Update #1
Spoiler
*All basic coding done,factions etc!

*Finished with the Russian and the Swedish regiment list!

*Two Russian Uniforms!
(https://i.imgur.com/663YYRj.jpg)


*Finished with the battle of Poltava
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F3prle3dyz%2F2013_04_08_00002.jpg&hash=2089017be32c1529a83c9e5e6804dce318e77bd1) (http://postimg.org/image/6wm4xpyev/full/)
Thank you Dekkers  :D
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Davout on April 08, 2013, 09:55:18 pm
nice, good luck
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 08, 2013, 09:58:25 pm
Update #1
Spoiler
*All basic coding done,factions etc!

*Finished with the Russian and the Swedish regiment list!

*Two Russian Uniforms!
(https://i.imgur.com/663YYRj.jpg)


*Finished with the battle of Poltava
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F3prle3dyz%2F2013_04_08_00002.jpg&hash=2089017be32c1529a83c9e5e6804dce318e77bd1) (http://postimg.org/image/6wm4xpyev/full/)
Thank you Dekkers  :D
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I Cannot wait for this mod. Looks promising.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 08, 2013, 10:30:34 pm
Update #1
Spoiler
*All basic coding done,factions etc!

*Finished with the Russian and the Swedish regiment list!

*Two Russian Uniforms!
(https://i.imgur.com/663YYRj.jpg)


*Finished with the battle of Poltava
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F3prle3dyz%2F2013_04_08_00002.jpg&hash=2089017be32c1529a83c9e5e6804dce318e77bd1) (http://postimg.org/image/6wm4xpyev/full/)
Thank you Dekkers  :D
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NP :p
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 08, 2013, 10:59:35 pm
Nice update! Really looking forward to this mod now.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 08, 2013, 11:08:20 pm
Update #1
Spoiler
*All basic coding done,factions etc!

*Finished with the Russian and the Swedish regiment list!

*Two Russian Uniforms!
(https://i.imgur.com/663YYRj.jpg)


*Finished with the battle of Poltava
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F3prle3dyz%2F2013_04_08_00002.jpg&hash=2089017be32c1529a83c9e5e6804dce318e77bd1) (http://postimg.org/image/6wm4xpyev/full/)
Thank you Dekkers  :D
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Can we see the regiment list? :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 08, 2013, 11:10:19 pm
Inform me for more maps! I am glad to help a mod with this time period ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 08, 2013, 11:32:09 pm
Oh dear god. Definitely playing this upon release.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Ardagh on April 08, 2013, 11:57:56 pm
No answer about Mazepa's Cossacks? A pity.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 09, 2013, 02:30:17 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPHKn1JYHcA[/youtube]
Ahead facing the lead,
An army of Swedes performing God's deeds,
Showing no fear, their judgement is near,
Making their sacrifice!

When the king and his men
Their enemies sight, prepare for the fight
Banners held high, ready to die,
Hear how they praise the lord!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 09, 2013, 02:59:19 pm
Such a good song. Glad I got you addicted.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 09, 2013, 03:00:37 pm
Such a good song. Glad I got you addicted.
wut
You didn't, I did.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 09, 2013, 03:30:00 pm
Such a good song. Glad I got you addicted.
wut
You didn't, I did.
Sabaton är best!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 09, 2013, 10:31:45 pm
Update #2
Spoiler

New uniform with a couple of variants.
(https://i.imgur.com/sXd9Wqh.jpg)


A swedish musket.
(https://i.imgur.com/Gau71rf.jpg)

And some signatures!
(https://i.imgur.com/8txbujC.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/8txbujC.png[/img][/url]
(https://i.imgur.com/rccnyHZ.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/rccnyHZ.png[/img][/url]
(https://i.imgur.com/iyLLEZ9.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/iyLLEZ9.png[/img][/url]
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Willhelm on April 09, 2013, 10:32:13 pm
Snazzy.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: von_Bismarck on April 09, 2013, 10:43:06 pm
It's good to see progress is being made.
I wish you luck with this.  :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: GoblinOverlord on April 09, 2013, 10:52:06 pm
Spoiler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gQKRF9aJ0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esMhRIpxhSQ
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j5X432TESM[/youtube]
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 09, 2013, 10:54:20 pm
Nice progress.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 09, 2013, 10:57:48 pm
Looks good!
But can we see the Regiment lists?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 09, 2013, 11:11:32 pm
Sven has them. I'll ask him to post them tomorrow  :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 09, 2013, 11:14:00 pm
Thanks :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 10, 2013, 05:13:14 pm
Will you implement the feature to fix your bayonets in this wonderful mod?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 10, 2013, 06:05:48 pm
We might :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Furrnox on April 10, 2013, 09:22:39 pm
Nice looking sigs great work! :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: EdwardC on April 10, 2013, 09:48:00 pm
Indeed!  :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 11, 2013, 04:03:27 pm
When will regiment reservations be allowed? I've gotta have my Dalregementet! :'(
:P
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 11, 2013, 04:04:32 pm
Damnit!
I want to support this mod with a signature, but I have to support my own events and my own map thread too!!!
Why did they make the space to tiny ;(.



Edit:

Haa! Problem solved :p
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 11, 2013, 04:56:24 pm
Dekkers, I'd have thought you'd have some decency and have a Swedish signature! :'(

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Also, if you can, give the Dal Regementet their Poltava uniforms :P
Tricornes look better than those... Things. (Hats in the picture are bad.)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 11, 2013, 05:02:58 pm
Dekkers, I'd have thought you'd have some decency and have a Swedish signature! :'(

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Also, if you can, give the Dal Regementet their Poltava uniforms :P
Tricornes look better than those... Things. (Hats in the picture are bad.)

But I like Russians :p
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 11, 2013, 10:56:26 pm
Dekkers, I'd have thought you'd have some decency and have a Swedish signature! :'(

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Also, if you can, give the Dal Regementet their Poltava uniforms :P
Tricornes look better than those... Things. (Hats in the picture are bad.)

But I like Russians :p
I'm not angry just dissapointed.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 11, 2013, 11:43:26 pm
Dekkers, I'd have thought you'd have some decency and have a Swedish signature! :'(

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Also, if you can, give the Dal Regementet their Poltava uniforms :P
Tricornes look better than those... Things. (Hats in the picture are bad.)
I agree. Maybe a few regiments with that style of hat, but otherwise I always found those to be hideous. The one regiment (can't remember the name) that had those but where instead of Blue and Gold it was Blue and White, it looks decent on them.

Otherwise, ugh. Tricornes please.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 11, 2013, 11:52:14 pm
Definitely. Can't waste the awesomeness of the Dal regementet, who fought at Narva and Poltava with those hats, can you? Besides, they had Tricornes at Poltava.
I imagine those hats would be quite hard to make, too. Even more reason for Tricornes! :P
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 11, 2013, 11:57:30 pm
Wouldn't be too hard. Tricornes definitely look better though.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 11, 2013, 11:58:54 pm
Of course they do.
Nobody yet has made a hat that rivals the Tricornes.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 12, 2013, 12:02:18 am
Seems most regiments had tricornes anyway, at least at Poltava. I'll probably work on some Swedish uniforms over the weekend.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 12, 2013, 12:02:52 am
Like I said, that hat was rather common on various Swedish regiments, so including one->two regiments that use that hat (specifically the one regiment I was thinking of that I can't remember the name of) just for the sake of accuracy. The 'Narke-Varmland' regiment, or something along those lines, looked pretty cool, IIRC. Wore that hat, but red and blue on some of their other pieces.

This picture (Yes, it's ETW, but they used historical references as shown when you right click the regiment) for it's uniform.
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 12, 2013, 12:07:31 am
Doesn't look too bad. I agree that one or two regiments should have them.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 12, 2013, 12:14:05 am
I just love the unique coloring. The white+blue regiment that uses those hats, and the 'Narke-Varmland' one as pictured above, bearing red+blue+yellow.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 12, 2013, 05:22:09 pm
Just now looked at this mod! Very promising, good luck!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on April 13, 2013, 05:18:42 pm
Dekkers, I'd have thought you'd have some decency and have a Swedish signature! :'(

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Also, if you can, give the Dal Regementet their Poltava uniforms :P
Tricornes look better than those... Things. (Hats in the picture are bad.)
I agree. Maybe a few regiments with that style of hat, but otherwise I always found those to be hideous. The one regiment (can't remember the name) that had those but where instead of Blue and Gold it was Blue and White, it looks decent on them.

Otherwise, ugh. Tricornes please.

Västmansland Regemente is the one you mean i think.

Also, aren't you going to add the Narvsky and the Nizhny-Novgorodskie regiments? :(

More importantly, will there be pikemen?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 13, 2013, 05:26:38 pm
... will there be pikemen?

Ffs, there better be pikemen. The pike the partizani randomly span with will be perfect for pikemen, and then give them a side-sabre to go along with their loadout.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on April 13, 2013, 05:30:18 pm
I would rather have it as a separate class, or as a weapon you could choose.

So if you choose a line infantry unit, you can pick between a musket or a pike instead of a random spawn.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 13, 2013, 05:42:40 pm
That would actually work out really well. Every infantry unit will get this option?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 13, 2013, 06:36:04 pm
Will every unit have bayonets or will some have muskets and an infantry saber?
I think some units didn't have bayonets and used seperate swords instead.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on April 14, 2013, 12:56:06 am
Will every unit have bayonets or will some have muskets and an infantry saber?
I think some units didn't have bayonets and used seperate swords instead.

In the Swedish army only the Grenadiers received bayonets for a long time, it took until 1706 until the majority of the infantry had received bayonets, i think If you spawn as a musketeer there is a random chance if you get a musket with a bayonet or not. With a higher likely hood being you getting one.

Just an idea.

Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 14, 2013, 01:17:16 am
Are the bayonets plug or ring bayonets? Will they be attachable/detachable?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: von_Bismarck on April 14, 2013, 01:29:53 am
Will every unit have bayonets or will some have muskets and an infantry saber?
I think some units didn't have bayonets and used seperate swords instead.

You make a good point here, in the early war most of the infantry did not even wear bayonets but sabers.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: pod455 on April 14, 2013, 12:32:39 pm
Are the bayonets plug or ring bayonets? Will they be attachable/detachable?
I believe they were ring bayonets at the time though im not sure
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Pinkknight on April 14, 2013, 01:20:17 pm
Could we get a unit list of the factions? It would be quite nice if we could do something to help to put this together xD.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 14, 2013, 02:04:55 pm
Could we get a unit list of the factions? It would be quite nice if we could do something to help to put this together xD.
1st page, 3rd post.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 14, 2013, 02:14:31 pm
Vladimirskaya kavaleriyskogo polk
Sankt-Peterburg kavaleriyskogo polk
Moskovskaya dragunskogo polk
Kiyevskaya dragunskogo polk

dat grammar
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 14, 2013, 02:51:04 pm
Vladimirskaya kavaleriyskogo polk
Sankt-Peterburg kavaleriyskogo polk
Moskovskaya dragunskogo polk
Kiyevskaya dragunskogo polk

dat grammar
It's Russian. Nobody understands Russian, nevermind getting the grammar right!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Sven von Hohenfelde on April 14, 2013, 03:47:23 pm
Don't blame me. Blame Google Translate.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 14, 2013, 04:57:58 pm
Well rather than just be a snarky cunt about it like I'm apt to do, I'll tidy it up for you.

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Infantry
Sibirskiy Pehotnyy Polk
Pskovskiy Pehotnyy Polk
Smolenskiy Pehotnyy Polk

Guards Infantry
Leyb-Gvardii Preobrazhenskiy Polk
Leyb-Gvardii Semyonovskiy Polk

Cavalry

Vladimirskiy Dragunskiy Polk
Sankt-Peterburgskiy Dragunskiy Polk
Moskovskiy Dragunskiy Polk
Kiyevskiy Dragunskiy Polk
The Kavalergardskiy Polk didn't exist until 1724, nor did the Leyb-Regiment, which was created in 1721. You could possibly replace it with the Generalniy Shvadron Menshikova. They wore the same green and red coats as the Preobrazhenskiy, but every ranker of the squadron had the gold trim of an officer.

Specialists
Artilleriyskiy Polk
Fel'dmarshal Knyaz' Aleksandr Menshikov
Tsar' Petr Velikiy
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Pinkknight on April 15, 2013, 12:45:45 am
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 12:51:57 am
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 15, 2013, 12:57:29 am
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 01:02:43 am
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
My hatred for Russia is growing every minute.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 15, 2013, 01:12:49 am
That's the first thing you've ever posted that I agree with. Well done.  :-*
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 15, 2013, 01:14:43 am
That's the first thing you've ever posted that I agree with. Well done.  :-*
:-*
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Pinkknight on April 15, 2013, 02:10:14 am
How about adding pikemen? Both armies used them during the war and it took until 1709 before it actually got less common, atleast in the Swedish Karoliner army :P.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 15, 2013, 02:11:12 am
Are the bayonets plug or ring bayonets? Will they be attachable/detachable?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 08:37:04 am
How about adding pikemen? Both armies used them during the war and it took until 1709 before it actually got less common, atleast in the Swedish Karoliner army :P.
That would be glourious!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 15, 2013, 09:42:20 am
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
My hatred for Russia is growing every minute.

Mine too

they are the worst.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: i put my pants on on April 15, 2013, 11:24:04 am
How about adding pikemen? Both armies used them during the war and it took until 1709 before it actually got less common, atleast in the Swedish Karoliner army :P.
That would be glourious!
+1 If that is added i will look forward to hopeless charges into thousands of line inf with only 300 men ;-) A swedish Leonidas effort
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Agovich on April 15, 2013, 11:55:51 am
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
My hatred for Russia is growing every minute.

Mine too

they are the worst.

:***
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Viktor 90th on April 15, 2013, 12:17:02 pm
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
My hatred for Russia is growing every minute.

Mine too

they are the worst.

:***
Ooorah!.
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 02:15:55 pm
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
My hatred for Russia is growing every minute.
Dirty russian scum!

Mine too

they are the worst.

:***
Ooorah!.
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Furrnox on April 15, 2013, 02:27:38 pm
I would stop with the quote pyramids right about here before someone get's watched.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 15, 2013, 02:41:39 pm
If we're in the business of trolling each other...

Parading the Swedes through Moscow
(https://i.imgur.com/VsTqfK4.jpg)
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The Heroes of Poltava
(https://i.imgur.com/fM6Yivg.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 15, 2013, 02:48:36 pm
If we're in the business of trolling each other...

Parading the Swedes through Moscow
(https://i.imgur.com/VsTqfK4.jpg)
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The Heroes of Poltava
(https://i.imgur.com/fM6Yivg.jpg)
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Ew Russians


Ooorah!.
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Ew disgusting even more Russians.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: von_Bismarck on April 15, 2013, 02:53:26 pm
Okay, the developers of this mod needs to specify this:

Will the mod be set in the early war ( if the mod is set in the early war then there should be pikemen and very very few bayonets, if any at all.) If the mod is set in the later war then most of the infantrymen will have bayonets but some pikemen will remain (specially in the swedish and russian armies).

Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dealen on April 15, 2013, 02:53:50 pm
At this time period, the "I" infront of the infantry name and number was not there, it wasn't until 1800s that they got that system, so instead it would be "1a Svea Livgarde" "15e Älvsborgs Infanteriregemente" etc x).
Indeed.
If only we would have won the war we would probably been a major power today.
Probably THE major power - Even more so than the U.S.
Think about it. You'd have Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe.
My hatred for Russia is growing every minute.
I am half russian.....

VIKINGARNA TAR ÖVER INTERNET!! FRAMÅT SVERIGE!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 15, 2013, 05:10:50 pm
If we're in the business of trolling each other...

Parading the Swedes through Moscow
(https://i.imgur.com/VsTqfK4.jpg)
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The Heroes of Poltava
(https://i.imgur.com/fM6Yivg.jpg)
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One word. Narva.
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Take that, Russian scum.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 05:22:59 pm
Okay, the developers of this mod needs to specify this:

Will the mod be set in the early war ( if the mod is set in the early war then there should be pikemen and very very few bayonets, if any at all.) If the mod is set in the later war then most of the infantrymen will have bayonets but some pikemen will remain (specially in the swedish and russian armies).
If it is set in the earky war then only foot guards should have bayonets.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 15, 2013, 06:09:40 pm
Narva is celebrated as the baptism of the army.

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1701 Officer's gorget of the Guard regiments, with the date of Narva embossed
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The Swedish grenadiers had bayonets at the very onset, and from 1704 onward all Swedish musketeers had them as well.
The Russian army is a little more messy, as in at least 1702 the Guard had socket bayonets, while the rest of the line had plug bayonets and pikes. Gradually the plugs were replaced with sockets and were completely equipped by 1709. The Russian plug bayonet looked more like a sword than a dagger like Western versions, so it also doubled as a side-sword.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 07:01:11 pm
Sorry but what's the difference between ring, plug and socket bayonet?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bramif on April 15, 2013, 07:11:58 pm
Sorry but what's the difference between ring, plug and socket bayonet?
See http://thearmouryonline.co.uk/BayonetHistory.htm (http://thearmouryonline.co.uk/BayonetHistory.htm) for history & evolution of the bayonet.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 15, 2013, 07:15:45 pm
Sorry but what's the difference between ring, plug and socket bayonet?

A plug bayonet, was literally a plug with a "pointy stick" on it, that would get stuck into the barrel. The problem with this, was that once the bayonet was plugged into the barrel, it was very hard to remove, and would ultimately have to be done out of combat when there is time to try and remove it. Often doubled as an infantry hanger sword.
Pro: Quick fix, added a pointy tip and length to the gun. Can be used a spear. Could be used a sword when not in the musket.
Con: Incredibly hard to remove, the user of the bayonet would not be able to shoot the musket.
Early plug bayonet...
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farms2armor.com%2FBayonets%2Fblgflint1b.jpg&hash=0b35f263ecb870be9ee89b49a561a2002a9fa7e2)
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A Ring bayonet, which was the next tech, was simply the same bayonet, except it had a ring attached to it, and would be pressed down on the outside of the barrel. Unfortunately, since most of the ring bayonets were not properly made, they had a tendency to stay in the victim or fall off of the gun in combat. However, these bayonets were longer than the original plug bayonet.
Pro: Easily fixed to a musket, allows user to shoot while bayonet is fixed. Increased length, longer than a regular plug bayonet.
Con: Had a tendency to fall off the barrel, they weren't always made correctly. Could stick in the victim, and were generally quite heavy (A solid 2 or 3 pounds).
1850s Mississippi Ring Bayonet... (More or less the same as during the 1700s)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy104%2FMichael1787%2FSnellhilt.jpg&hash=139d854f02eef36c7a72b7cde680c1eb78f3bc2b)
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The socket bayonet was a ring bayonet, but had a groove and would click into a socket around the bayonet. Thus the term "socket bayonet." This bayonet was unable to come off, since it would click in to a notch on the barrel. Often light weight, and was in a triangular shape to maximize damage. However, due to it being lightweight in nature, it was often prone to breaking.
Pro: Easily fixed to a musket, allows user to shoot while bayonet is fixed. Increased length, brutal triangular shape. Snaps into place to remain sturdy, and not fall off like the ring bayonet.
Con: Lightweight, sometimes broke.
Diagram of how a socket bayonet worked...
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthearmouryonline.co.uk%2FTerminol05.jpg&hash=7ca62a72c4fe6e38094fd8dc5e29d4ab9182bc56)
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: von_Bismarck on April 15, 2013, 07:22:42 pm
Sorry but what's the difference between ring, plug and socket bayonet?

A plug bayonet, was literally a plug with a "pointy stick" on it, that would get stuck into the barrel. The problem with this, was that once the bayonet was plugged into the barrel, it was very hard to remove, and would ultimately have to be done out of combat when there is time to try and remove it. Often doubled as an infantry hanger sword.
Pro: Quick fix, added a pointy tip and length to the gun. Can be used a spear. Could be used a sword when not in the musket.
Con: Incredibly hard to remove, the user of the bayonet would not be able to shoot the musket.
Early plug bayonet...
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farms2armor.com%2FBayonets%2Fblgflint1b.jpg&hash=0b35f263ecb870be9ee89b49a561a2002a9fa7e2)
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A Ring bayonet, which was the next tech, was simply the same bayonet, except it had a ring attached to it, and would be pressed down on the outside of the barrel. Unfortunately, since most of the ring bayonets were not properly made, they had a tendency to stay in the victim or fall off of the gun in combat. However, these bayonets were longer than the original plug bayonet.
Pro: Easily fixed to a musket, allows user to shoot while bayonet is fixed. Increased length, longer than a regular plug bayonet.
Con: Had a tendency to fall off the barrel, they weren't always made correctly. Could stick in the victim, and were generally quite heavy (A solid 2 or 3 pounds).
1850s Mississippi Ring Bayonet... (More or less the same as during the 1700s)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy104%2FMichael1787%2FSnellhilt.jpg&hash=139d854f02eef36c7a72b7cde680c1eb78f3bc2b)
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The socket bayonet was a ring bayonet, but had a groove and would click into a socket around the bayonet. Thus the term "socket bayonet." This bayonet was unable to come off, since it would click in to a notch on the barrel. Often light weight, and was in a triangular shape to maximize damage. However, due to it being lightweight in nature, it was often prone to breaking.
Pro: Easily fixed to a musket, allows user to shoot while bayonet is fixed. Increased length, brutal triangular shape. Snaps into place to remain sturdy, and not fall off like the ring bayonet.
Con: Lightweight, sometimes broke.
Diagram of how a socket bayonet worked...
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthearmouryonline.co.uk%2FTerminol05.jpg&hash=7ca62a72c4fe6e38094fd8dc5e29d4ab9182bc56)
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Thanks for the explaination  :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 07:33:35 pm
Sorry but what's the difference between ring, plug and socket bayonet?

A plug bayonet, was literally a plug with a "pointy stick" on it, that would get stuck into the barrel. The problem with this, was that once the bayonet was plugged into the barrel, it was very hard to remove, and would ultimately have to be done out of combat when there is time to try and remove it. Often doubled as an infantry hanger sword.
Pro: Quick fix, added a pointy tip and length to the gun. Can be used a spear. Could be used a sword when not in the musket.
Con: Incredibly hard to remove, the user of the bayonet would not be able to shoot the musket.
Early plug bayonet...
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farms2armor.com%2FBayonets%2Fblgflint1b.jpg&hash=0b35f263ecb870be9ee89b49a561a2002a9fa7e2)
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A Ring bayonet, which was the next tech, was simply the same bayonet, except it had a ring attached to it, and would be pressed down on the outside of the barrel. Unfortunately, since most of the ring bayonets were not properly made, they had a tendency to stay in the victim or fall off of the gun in combat. However, these bayonets were longer than the original plug bayonet.
Pro: Easily fixed to a musket, allows user to shoot while bayonet is fixed. Increased length, longer than a regular plug bayonet.
Con: Had a tendency to fall off the barrel, they weren't always made correctly. Could stick in the victim, and were generally quite heavy (A solid 2 or 3 pounds).
1850s Mississippi Ring Bayonet... (More or less the same as during the 1700s)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy104%2FMichael1787%2FSnellhilt.jpg&hash=139d854f02eef36c7a72b7cde680c1eb78f3bc2b)
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The socket bayonet was a ring bayonet, but had a groove and would click into a socket around the bayonet. Thus the term "socket bayonet." This bayonet was unable to come off, since it would click in to a notch on the barrel. Often light weight, and was in a triangular shape to maximize damage. However, due to it being lightweight in nature, it was often prone to breaking.
Pro: Easily fixed to a musket, allows user to shoot while bayonet is fixed. Increased length, brutal triangular shape. Snaps into place to remain sturdy, and not fall off like the ring bayonet.
Con: Lightweight, sometimes broke.
Diagram of how a socket bayonet worked...
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthearmouryonline.co.uk%2FTerminol05.jpg&hash=7ca62a72c4fe6e38094fd8dc5e29d4ab9182bc56)
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Cleared up alot of stuff!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: apricotes1 on April 15, 2013, 09:02:14 pm
Please make the ukranian faction unless you are going to incorperate ukranians on the russian team.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 15, 2013, 09:18:18 pm
Please allow the developers to decide on what factions they will make.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 15, 2013, 09:19:52 pm
Please allow people to ask their questions and make requests without others getting all pissy about it.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 15, 2013, 09:28:31 pm
I think we should focus on the two primary factions (Sweden and discusting Russia) and completing them before we start thinking of any other additional factions.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: von_Bismarck on April 15, 2013, 10:56:38 pm
Please make the ukranian faction unless you are going to incorperate ukranians on the russian team.

Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire in that time, not an independent nation.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 16, 2013, 12:21:45 am
The Zaporozhian Host was a semi-independent state though, and served both Sweden and Russia variously during the war.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 16, 2013, 12:23:59 am
I'm sure that's what apricotes1 meant.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Ardagh on April 16, 2013, 01:35:13 am
Please make the ukranian faction unless you are going to incorperate ukranians on the russian team.

Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire in that time, not an independent nation.

The Cossack Hetmanate was autonomous well into the 1760's, and did have it's own independent army; Ukrainians fought on both sides of the war. There were Mazepa's Cossacks (What I would consider true freedom-fighting "Ukrainians"), who fought under Karl's banner, and those Cossacks who stayed subordinate to the Russians (Being most of them).

As I've stated before, I'd love to see Ukrainian units embedded in both factions, but certainly not as their own independent army. I'm rather of the position that Mazepa was a hero to Ukraine, and I think most Western Ukrainians would agree. Eastern Ukrainians, of course, would be more opposed to that thought, I should think. Thus, I think it would be fair to simply include them in both factions, with varying equipment and uniforms as an auxiliary unit.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Agovich on April 16, 2013, 10:53:51 am
Please make the ukranian faction unless you are going to incorperate ukranians on the russian team.

Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire in that time, not an independent nation.

The Cossack Hetmanate was autonomous well into the 1760's, and did have it's own independent army; Ukrainians fought on both sides of the war. There were Mazepa's Cossacks (What I would consider true freedom-fighting "Ukrainians"), who fought under Karl's banner, and those Cossacks who stayed subordinate to the Russians (Being most of them).

As I've stated before, I'd love to see Ukrainian units embedded in both factions, but certainly not as their own independent army. I'm rather of the position that Mazepa was a hero to Ukraine, and I think most Western Ukrainians would agree. Eastern Ukrainians, of course, would be more opposed to that thought, I should think. Thus, I think it would be fair to simply include them in both factions, with varying equipment and uniforms as an auxiliary unit.

In Russia they were more of a militia that could be considered Elite Guerrilla troops that went as skrimishers ( perfect idea for a skrimisher unit for the Russians =D ). Of course, there were the standard cavalry with lances, too, yet much more equipped than their infantry counterparts, who went in almost home-made fur coats and had a huge uniform variation (most changed during late Petar I's reign with modernization) :) :) :)

This is of course, to my personal knowledge, confront if you wish to xD I don't got much knowledge of this era
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Duuring on April 16, 2013, 03:33:43 pm
You are misusing the term 'skirmisher' for an 'irregular'. Which is a common mistake and a big annoyance to me. People often use the words indifferently, but there's a difference.

Skirmishers are simply regular troops in an open skirmish formation. They don't have to be specialized or rifle-armed (though they often were). The (official) cavalry-term for skirmishing is being 'en vedette', but it's basically the same - either scouting (terrain) or firing pot-shots at enemy skirmishers to make way for the regiment.

Irregulars would make the worse skirmishers in a real combat situation - they were the least organized, trained and could easily run unless they were packed into a big formation with moody halberd-armed NCO's behind it.

Anyway, to the modders - Good luck and I'm hoping to see some nice ridiculous big coated cavarly soon!  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on April 17, 2013, 01:52:09 pm
For all those people awaiting this mod, i suggest you take a few minutes of listening to Sabaton if you like Sweden ( Carolus Rex album ).. Or maybe watch that shitty Poltava movie if you like Russians  ::)

The only good line in that movie is where the Swedish captain says " NER...PÅ KNÄ! "...Best pickup line ever   8)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 17, 2013, 02:55:44 pm
What's awaiting this mod got to do with shitty power metal?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: König on April 17, 2013, 03:07:08 pm
What's awaiting this mod got to do with shitty power metal?
Careful Doc, you could end-up starting a small war here with comments like that. :P


Anyways, it's the similar theme that he's getting at. (The Great Northern War)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 17, 2013, 04:15:07 pm
Careful Doc, you could end-up starting a small war here with comments like that. :P


Anyways, it's the similar theme that he's getting at. (The Great Northern War)
Love Sabaton's music. Konig was quite right, watch your tongue!

Also, can't wait to play Sweden. Going to be so fun. ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 17, 2013, 04:43:14 pm
What's awaiting this mod got to do with shitty power metal?
Wot's dis than eh?

Sabaton aren't shitty. Have you listened to them?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Willhelm on April 17, 2013, 04:47:58 pm
They are pretty cringeworthy.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 17, 2013, 05:21:49 pm
They are pretty cringeworthy.
That's your opinion ::)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 17, 2013, 05:28:55 pm
Sooo, nubs.

How is the progress?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 18, 2013, 02:51:16 am
They are pretty cringeworthy.
That's your opinion ::)

Music can't be objectively good or bad, so any statement on how good or bad certain music is can only be a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on April 18, 2013, 01:54:07 pm
What's awaiting this mod got to do with shitty power metal?

You're such a Debby Downer and a Negative Nancy.

Here is the definiton for you:     

Function: Noun

1. a: a person who says something terribly depressing (a downer), typically only tangentially related to the present circumstance or topic of conversation, and thereby destroys the positive atmosphere.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 18, 2013, 02:11:23 pm
I think you need the definition of the word 'depressing'.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 18, 2013, 03:51:00 pm
Soggy Meatballs: the Thread
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 18, 2013, 05:27:30 pm
I think you need the definition of the word 'depressing'.
I think you need to lighten up.
Why always so down and serious?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 18, 2013, 09:06:05 pm
I think you need the definition of the word 'depressing'.
I think you need to lighten up.
Why always so down and serious?
Leave the man be, he obviously have some problems in his life.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 19, 2013, 01:52:29 am
I think you need to lighten up.
Why always so down and serious?

Err, going through my posts reveals that half are matter of fact posts about historical details and the other half are jokes.

For you to come to such a conclusion, you must hate both history and humour. What kind of monster are you?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 19, 2013, 01:53:27 am
I ask him that every day. :(
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Agovich on April 19, 2013, 03:39:07 pm
Crimean Khanate and its master Turkey could be inserted at a later date to resemble historical era of Russian wars on all fronts :P
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on April 19, 2013, 06:48:12 pm
Something that may interest you devs.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.info4hobby.com%2F335-2535-thickbox%2Fthe-uniformes-of-the-swedish-army-in-the-great-northern-war.jpg&hash=633e8188f642b2dcf15c1bd4af4e27a240f7eac7)
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Jelly on April 21, 2013, 09:28:07 am
Well that's a nice looking drummer boy...
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on April 21, 2013, 11:56:09 am
Swedes are sexy.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 21, 2013, 01:14:03 pm
Swedes are sexy.
Indeed.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Agovich on April 21, 2013, 03:59:38 pm
That is one thing about Sweden that can not have a word against it. Hot girls 100% :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Pinkknight on April 21, 2013, 08:22:21 pm
I think you need the definition of the word 'depressing'.
I think you need to lighten up.
Why always so down and serious?

I'mma steal your signature cuz it's awesome, k bai.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Audiate on April 21, 2013, 08:32:06 pm
 I don't want to be a killjoy, but what makes this mod unique? So far, I'm just seeing reskins. Don't get me wrong, I love the era, the factions, the uniforms, the weaponry... but what about this mod will stand out?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Pinkknight on April 21, 2013, 10:51:31 pm
I don't want to be a killjoy, but what makes this mod unique? So far, I'm just seeing reskins. Don't get me wrong, I love the era, the factions, the uniforms, the weaponry... but what about this mod will stand out?

I'd say if the modders add pikemen and make less units have bayonetts it would definatly change the way linebattles are played and how melee would feel.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Audiate on April 21, 2013, 10:57:11 pm
 Hey, as long as the community, and a rather large community at that, can get behind having pikemen and musketmen and everything in between on the battlefield working together with cross-group tactics, I think it could be pulled off. But I just don't think that would be enough to make this mod definitively successful.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 23, 2013, 02:51:01 am
Pike and shot formations definitely worked well against bots in the Deluge. It's be interesting to see how it plays out against players.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on April 23, 2013, 04:24:36 pm
Yes, i would like to see how using pikes offensively would work out in this game.

Also, i have a suggestion to the devs. I suggest incorporating Rifles, known as 'studsare' into the Swedish army as a weapon for officers.

A studsare is a short barreled rifle, the word derives from German ' stutzen ' which developed into schutzen. This arm was used by sharp shooters and was commonly associated as a officer weapon. I read about it today in Peter Englund's ' Poltava ' where he mentions both sides having these sharpshooter but does not go into any detail of the Russians, only mentioning they have sharpshooters.

Even if if you don't want to have it in the officer class i am sure you can find a way to incorporate it  :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 24, 2013, 07:36:13 pm
How is the progress going?  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Ardagh on April 28, 2013, 08:29:56 am
Any updates? Been some time.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on April 28, 2013, 12:09:54 pm
How is it going with the mod?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: von_Bismarck on April 28, 2013, 03:11:43 pm
Been  a long time since the latest update, how is the progress going?  ???
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Bluehawk on April 28, 2013, 07:35:17 pm
Yes, i would like to see how using pikes offensively would work out in this game.

Also, i have a suggestion to the devs. I suggest incorporating Rifles, known as 'studsare' into the Swedish army as a weapon for officers.

A studsare is a short barreled rifle, the word derives from German ' stutzen ' which developed into schutzen. This arm was used by sharp shooters and was commonly associated as a officer weapon. I read about it today in Peter Englund's ' Poltava ' where he mentions both sides having these sharpshooter but does not go into any detail of the Russians, only mentioning they have sharpshooters.

Even if if you don't want to have it in the officer class i am sure you can find a way to incorporate it  :)

The Russians too had these shorted rifled muskets, almost all purchased abroad, and also borrowed the German word Stutzen or Stutzer, which became Штуцер (Shtutser), to describe them. They were mostly found in the dragoons and generals' body guards, among officers and hand-picked marksman. They didn't start manufacturing their own until the 1720s. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the rifles at Poltava were taken from Swedish casualties at Lesnaya etc.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 28, 2013, 10:07:03 pm
Update #3
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Had a lot of work to do recently so haven't been able to do much. Progress should speed up a bit now though.

*A sword
(https://i.imgur.com/uB9yNCx.png)


*Swedish artillery uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwL6t4.jpg)

*Dalregementet uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/xtwrAOu.jpg)

Pants are just temporary for these uniforms. Will make their own soon.

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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 28, 2013, 10:18:08 pm
Update #3
Spoiler


Had a lot of work to do recently so haven't been able to do much. Progress should speed up a bit now though.

*A sword
(https://i.imgur.com/uB9yNCx.png)


*Swedish artillery uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwL6t4.jpg)

*Dalregementet uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/xtwrAOu.jpg)

Pants are just temporary for these uniforms. Will make their own soon.
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Good to see an update, but the uniforums are far to clean in my opinion, try to make the colours look like the uniforums are used in the battlefield ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: kpetschulat on April 28, 2013, 10:20:18 pm
Update #3
Spoiler


Had a lot of work to do recently so haven't been able to do much. Progress should speed up a bit now though.

*A sword
(https://i.imgur.com/uB9yNCx.png)


*Swedish artillery uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwL6t4.jpg)

*Dalregementet uniform
(https://i.imgur.com/xtwrAOu.jpg)

Pants are just temporary for these uniforms. Will make their own soon.
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Good to see an update, but the uniforums are far to clean in my opinion, try to make the colours look like the uniforums are used in the battlefield ;)

Just leave it be for now. Let them get what they need to do first done, then they can go back and add all the petty details to things, such as the dirt and signs of use... Excellent work, btw on the update. Loving the Swedish Dalregementet uniform.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on April 28, 2013, 10:21:07 pm
There is a bit of dirt on the bottom of the artillery uniform. Picture doesn't show it very well. I will add some to the others.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on April 28, 2013, 10:49:50 pm
There is a bit of dirt on the bottom of the artillery uniform. Picture doesn't show it very well. I will add some to the others.

Yea, I especially ment the *Dalregementet uniform . It is far to clean :)

This is a perfect example of a soldier (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg41.imageshack.us%2Fimg41%2F7335%2F79thhighlander.jpg&hash=75fe4ffb3bdd7a7a7f82c3b595377d957707e11f)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on April 29, 2013, 01:46:00 am
No, it's the perfect example of someone that's been rolling around in dirt.

Dirt builds up in certain spots, whites yellow and dyes fade, but you don't get covered in dirt like that unless you are rolling in it. Even if a soldier was rolling in dirt, their uniforms had to be washed regularly.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanP346 on May 01, 2013, 09:28:59 pm
Did a bit of work on the texture.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/fYeV8YM.png)
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Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Davout on May 02, 2013, 12:18:01 pm
Did a bit of work on the texture.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/fYeV8YM.png)
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nice
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: BloodBeag on May 05, 2013, 06:45:11 pm
I think you just need a new texturer
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on May 05, 2013, 07:03:35 pm
Go ahead, BloodBeag. You try to do a better job.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on May 05, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
I think you just need a new texturer
Sod off!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Affjoris on May 06, 2013, 01:22:19 am
The textures do exactly what they are meant to do, they show the uniform. You don't have to go and make artwork of each and every uniform.

I think these textures are fine, they might not be professional textures, but they will do for a mod just fine.
These guys need encouragement and support, not some feedback they can do nothing with. If you where to give them advise on how to improve the textures a bit, that would be appreciated. Just bluntly saying they suck because you don't like them doesn't help anyone.

I personally would vary the colors a bit, messing around with some darker patches on the cloth. I personally use brushes for that, some good examples are:
http://zellow.deviantart.com/art/Grunge-Brushes-89514876
http://nightcrawla.deviantart.com/art/Scratched-Metal-Grunge-set-63635660
http://nightcrawla.deviantart.com/art/blackriderrom-Grunge-02-52791415
I'm sure you can find more on the internet as well.

Also make sure you use a desaturated texture picture from the internet if you are doing cloth, this makes it way easier. Set the opacity pretty low and make sure the layer is set to either multiply or overlay, depending on what looks best for the situation.

Hope this helps a bit,
Affjoris
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: PrinceTotalwar on May 11, 2013, 11:24:28 pm
God Cant Wait for this Mod
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on May 11, 2013, 11:29:54 pm
How is progress going?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: MilfAndCookies on May 12, 2013, 12:09:59 am
Sounds interesting and looks good so far. Good luck!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hardy on May 12, 2013, 01:16:05 am
I know I will be playing this  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on May 21, 2013, 09:54:02 pm
How is the progress doing?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Desert Thunda on May 24, 2013, 08:40:55 am
How is the progress doing?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Carl Lapin on May 24, 2013, 08:07:05 pm
Wow! Exactly what i was looking for! Kämpa på grabbar :)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Carl Lapin on May 24, 2013, 09:54:40 pm
The textures do exactly what they are meant to do, they show the uniform. You don't have to go and make artwork of each and every uniform.

I think these textures are fine, they might not be professional textures, but they will do for a mod just fine.
These guys need encouragement and support, not some feedback they can do nothing with. If you where to give them advise on how to improve the textures a bit, that would be appreciated. Just bluntly saying they suck because you don't like them doesn't help anyone.

I personally would vary the colors a bit, messing around with some darker patches on the cloth. I personally use brushes for that, some good examples are:
http://zellow.deviantart.com/art/Grunge-Brushes-89514876
http://nightcrawla.deviantart.com/art/Scratched-Metal-Grunge-set-63635660
http://nightcrawla.deviantart.com/art/blackriderrom-Grunge-02-52791415
I'm sure you can find more on the internet as well.

Also make sure you use a desaturated texture picture from the internet if you are doing cloth, this makes it way easier. Set the opacity pretty low and make sure the layer is set to either multiply or overlay, depending on what looks best for the situation.

Hope this helps a bit,
Affjoris

First of all i think what you guys are doing is fantastic! Keep it up. I also think you should listen a little to Affjoris advice with the coloring, try to use a different hue of the yellow color on the swedish uniforms, they should have a little dirt from all the firing, maybe make it more mild so the yellow color isnt screaming as much. Exept for that everything is starting to look real nice!

When do you think the mod is due to be released? I know it might be early to say but an rough estimation would be nice. Well done!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Carl Lapin on May 25, 2013, 08:38:29 am
I can strongly recommend this series when working on Sweden. Its called Swedish battles (Svenska slag). 8 episodes, ill link them here under. Should help and i find it very informative!

Episode 1-Tyskland
http://vimeo.com/14985389
Episode 2 - Havet
http://vimeo.com/14985484
Episode 3 - Danskar
http://vimeo.com/15250673
Episode 4 - Guds arme
http://vimeo.com/15250750
Episode 5 - Dödens dag
http://vimeo.com/15387907
Episode 6 - Soldaten och kulan
http://vimeo.com/15388607
Episode 7 - Bomber och granater
http://vimeo.com/15623096
Episode 8 - Fred, kärlek och pengar
http://vimeo.com/15623206
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Windbusche on May 25, 2013, 08:41:18 am
As a heads up, double and triple posting are typically frowned upon. I'd avoid doing that and edit your post. ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Carl Lapin on May 25, 2013, 10:08:29 pm
Thanks for the advice, im pretty new to forums in general i will edit in future :).
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Fabbels on June 01, 2013, 09:54:17 pm
Hoping for a new update.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on June 01, 2013, 11:11:25 pm
Hoping for a new update.
+1
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Carl Lapin on June 02, 2013, 07:36:20 am
Hoping for a new update.
+1

+2
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Rejestone on June 02, 2013, 08:17:35 am
Looks interesting
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on June 04, 2013, 07:01:15 pm
Hoping for a new update.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on June 21, 2013, 09:07:55 pm
Hold on people!
I'm bringing this thread to the top.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on June 22, 2013, 10:03:52 am
What?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Hawke on June 22, 2013, 10:46:30 am
Everything goes right over your head, doesn't it? ::)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Dekkers on June 22, 2013, 12:49:11 pm
Hoping for a new update.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Docm30 on June 22, 2013, 02:07:19 pm
Spamming this thread won't create a update out of thin air.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 24, 2013, 04:07:00 am
Spamming this thread won't create a update out of thin air.
Clearly you don't know how the internet works Docm.  :P Constantly begging for sh*t not only gets you virtual items for your viewing pleasure, it gives you a sense of gratification. Or it makes developers pissed off and less optimistic to make a mod. Either one is good
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Archduke Sven on June 26, 2013, 12:24:25 pm
Spamming this thread won't create a update out of thin air.

What the hell? It doesn't?

I'm gonna have to sue the guy who told me it does  >:(
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: EdwardC on July 10, 2013, 04:04:50 am
Spamming this thread won't create a update out of thin air.

What the hell? It doesn't?

I'm gonna have to sue the guy who told me it does  >:(

You can't sue a troll.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Googly on July 14, 2013, 03:57:31 pm
I didn't for one moment think this mod would be made by anyone other than a Swedish person, they sure love their 'Great' Northern War! xD

Looks interesting though, so many mods popping up, hopefully they'll all be released!  :D
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Wismar on July 14, 2013, 05:13:17 pm
I didn't for one moment think this mod would be made by anyone other than a Swedish person, they sure love their 'Great' Northern War! xD

Looks interesting though, so many mods popping up, hopefully they'll all be released!  :D
Sweden was one of the major powers then, so yes it was great.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on July 14, 2013, 06:48:29 pm
I didn't for one moment think this mod would be made by anyone other than a Swedish person, they sure love their 'Great' Northern War! xD

Looks interesting though, so many mods popping up, hopefully they'll all be released!  :D
Sweden was one of the major powers then, so yes it was great.

Don't you mean 'Great'?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Harybo on August 16, 2013, 12:49:19 pm
is any progress being made?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: CharlesVasser on August 21, 2013, 10:24:11 pm
Finally i have wanted this for a very long time!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: DanyEle on August 22, 2013, 01:22:55 am
is any progress being made?

No sign of life...
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Alfred on September 13, 2013, 11:40:02 pm
Finally i have wanted this for a very long time!
U are not the only one waiting for it ;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Ozzy on May 17, 2014, 01:48:03 pm
Is anyone working still working on this mod? It'd be awsome if someone did, I'd start a regiment already if there's any sign of anyone still working on it ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2Fab503002d11b5c4a56aef57fc222b41e&hash=d5a20b6a6b4fca1da64d37c2883a2d215e6e3540)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Furrnox on May 17, 2014, 02:00:42 pm
Nah dude no one's working on this anymore.  :'(
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: OttoFIN on June 13, 2014, 12:52:44 pm
Good thing I'm a pessimist..
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: GhostDog on July 31, 2014, 08:25:40 pm
No Finnish regiments at all???!?
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: turanafon on August 08, 2014, 10:51:06 am
Keep up the good work
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: EdwardC on August 08, 2014, 11:45:34 am
Keep up the good work

dead Dead DEAD!
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Brawn on August 08, 2014, 03:24:58 pm
This looks fantastic, can't wait for it to be finished.
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on August 08, 2014, 03:37:09 pm
This looks fantastic, can't wait for it to be finished.

Not sure if trolling or just really stupid
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: Brawn on August 08, 2014, 03:46:09 pm
This looks fantastic, can't wait for it to be finished.

Not sure if trolling or just really stupid

;)
Title: Re: The Great Northern War!
Post by: McEwan on August 09, 2014, 02:41:23 am
Locked due to inactivity.