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issues that at least to me appear to be more of a cultural American issue rather than a worldwide onewestern countries are USA vassals in many sectors eversince Marshall Plan, including culturally = any controversy occuring in america will unevitably have some echo in Europe regardless of whether its relevant for us or not
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now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I don't know why you think a predominantly white, male internet gaming forum would have a "more realistic outlook on these issues" than pretty much every BAME public figure, including the majority of footballers in the game you mentioned.
Just because you can't see the systemic racism in Britain yourself doesn't mean it isn't there, and the fact that you respond to black people trying to educate the wider public about this injustice as unecessary is part of the problem. I'm white, have never had any difficult interactions with the police because I'm middle class and live in a nice area. It doesn't mean it doesn't go on. Stop and search in London, for example, has been disproportionatly targetting BAME people for decades. The Metropolitan Police (among other police forces in the UK) was found to be systemically racist by the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry - this was reaffirmed in 2015 by the Met Police Commissioner.
Just think about how fortunate you are that the worst thing going on for you right now is getting annoyed with the message that "black lives matter" being shoved down your throat - it's a much better position to be in than a black person living in a society that is systemically racist. (Again, this is not opinion, it is fact - there have been a lot of studies into it that you can access with a quick google. We might not be as bad as the US, thankfully, but it doesn't mean there aren't problems in the UK too).
I'd really recommend watching the Jane Elliott "Blue eyes-Brown eyes" experiment where she creates situations where white people can begin to understand the racism that BAME people have to deal with on a day to day basis.
TL;DR - Just because you can't see the racism, doesn't mean it isn't there. The fact you are upset about BLM being everywhere right now is problematic because it implies you don't take the complaints of ethnic minorities seriously. So no, nobody is forcing you to back the movement, but complaining about it either shows an ignorance of the facts at best or an unwillingness to listen and change, suggesting some degree of racism yourself, at worst.
To answer your first paragraph - Because this forum contains people more accessible / contactable and BLM is not exactly prevalent in my local area so asking the locals is not much more than what i already know or what i am aware of.
I should clarify it is not that i don't see racism, i don't live in the UK so i don't hear the news as much as yourself for London etc. I just want to know if this is a proportionate response because there has been violence in the past but never this much reaction to it, and the media like to sensationalize a lot of things so i wanted more of a feet on the ground opinion.
I am not exactly upset, more annoyed by the excessive reporting on it - even if the situation calls for excessiveness to get people to listen to the message, is everybody, companies etc. doing it for the right reasons, or are they just bandwagoning?
(not exactly relevant but wasn't too long ago that Irish people were discriminated against lmao so thankfully i have nothing to complain about nowadays)
And again the complaints of ethnic minorities at least on a local level has not applied to me directly yet, so i would not know. I do think racism is more to do with the human nature of that person is different to me therefore i should be afraid but this can be applied to all different arguments.
To answer your first paragraph - Because this forum contains people more accessible / contactable and BLM is not exactly prevalent in my local area so asking the locals is not much more than what i already know or what i am aware of.
I should clarify it is not that i don't see racism, i don't live in the UK so i don't hear the news as much as yourself for London etc. I just want to know if this is a proportionate response because there has been violence in the past but never this much reaction to it, and the media like to sensationalize a lot of things so i wanted more of a feet on the ground opinion.
I am not exactly upset, more annoyed by the excessive reporting on it - even if the situation calls for excessiveness to get people to listen to the message, is everybody, companies etc. doing it for the right reasons, or are they just bandwagoning?
(not exactly relevant but wasn't too long ago that Irish people were discriminated against lmao so thankfully i have nothing to complain about nowadays)
And again the complaints of ethnic minorities at least on a local level has not applied to me directly yet, so i would not know. I do think racism is more to do with the human nature of that person is different to me therefore i should be afraid but this can be applied to all different arguments.
Well first thanks for actually taking the time to respond - the reason why I replied in the first place was because it seemed like a genuine question, opening yourself up to differing opinions which is always valuable - even if a thread like this is gonna get memed to shit by people too lazy to actually get involved and join the discussion.
Fair enough that this is your first port of call for getting opinions outside your family/friends/local circle where, if you're living in Ireland, I assume it isn't as big an issue due to there being just fewer BAME people in general - as well as not having that imperialist history which is part of the issue in the UK. I would just say that typically places like these aren't the best to get actual information from (even though I realise you're just looking for opinions, I'm just saying they aren't going to be representative of the wider public due to how niche this game/community is), so you're going to get a lot of bandwaggoning of opinions here as well.
I can see the frustration in all these corporations shoving a political stance down your throats. And yes, it is virtue signalling. It happened a few years ago in the UK when gay marriage was on the table and companies started using the rainbow flag in their logos etc. I don't think it's genuine at all, and clearly they are just hopping on the bandwagon and trying to appear trendy - note how they are always late to the party and never do these things out of their own initiative. So I would see corporations doing this not out of the goodness of their hearts but rather because they can see which way the wind is blowing on an issue and want to make sure they can still market to people. I would use corporations as a measure for how big a social issue is rather than them having any influence over it.
I know too well how Irish people were discriminated against in the UK. My grandparents were Irish and when they moved to London in the 50s there would be signs on businesses that said "No blacks, no Irish, no dogs", something my grandparents never really got over. So there are definitely historical and current examples of racism that aren't about skin colour, but the point of the BLM movement isn't to try to undermine those issues, it's just about putting things in perspective.
I think the reason this has picked up so much momentum compared to previous protests is the widespread social media element. If you go on reddit to /r/publicfreakout or /r/2020policebrutality you can see hundreds of videos from the past month of mainly American police being way too heavy handed with peaceful black and BLM protesters, whilst also ignoring or even encouraging violence from groups on the other side. Trump has been throwing fuel on the fire as well, using racist dogwhistles to prevent people from using their constitutional right to protest.
TL;DR Corporations don't give a shit and are jumping on a bandwagon, but that is evidence of the size of the movement and scale of the issue at hand. Fortunately, most of us here will never have experienced racism against us so I think we should be more willing to stop and listen to what black and ethnic minority people have to say about it.
I'd like to think If i had a black friend or colleague come to me with these issues i do believe i would take them seriously, i think it is more the virtue signalling as you mentioned that annoys me and takes away from my ability to take the whole media / social media approach to it seriously, as it doesn't seem all too genuine in some cases like you said mostly corporate entities trying to save face and keep any potential controversy away from them in terms of what the general public approves / disapproves.
I'd like to think If i had a black friend or colleague come to me with these issues i do believe i would take them seriously, i think it is more the virtue signalling as you mentioned that annoys me and takes away from my ability to take the whole media / social media approach to it seriously, as it doesn't seem all too genuine in some cases like you said mostly corporate entities trying to save face and keep any potential controversy away from them in terms of what the general public approves / disapproves.
And my response to that would be we should try not to let our annoyance at corporations or sensationalist media detract from the original purpose of the protests, which very much are genuine and backed by a lot of data and academic research. There's definitely a seperate argument to be made about whether corporations doing this helps or hinders the movement, but at the very least it's got us talking about it here.
can you elaborate about this "brainwashing machine"if this is being redpilled then we are truly fucked
you seem like a truly based and red pilled individual so i definitely want to hear more
a race of people who commit more crimes statistically are racially profiled by the people who try to stop those crimes from happening
wow what a surprise
a race of people who commit more crimes statistically are racially profiled by the people who try to stop those crimes from happeninghahaha
wow what a surprise
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now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
When the next immigrant wave crosses the Mediterranean, you will see the same racism be spewed, of this I am certain..
I do think racism is more to do with the human nature of that person is different to me therefore i should be afraid but this can be applied to all different arguments.
only thing i hate more than racists are the negros wops jews and asians
a race of people who commit more crimes statistically are racially profiled by the people who try to stop those crimes from happening
wow what a surprise
Everyone has the same rights. The fact that afro Americans are oppressed in any way is in a sense their own fault too - as fancy mentioned;a race of people who commit more crimes statistically are racially profiled by the people who try to stop those crimes from happening
wow what a surprise
There has to be a change in people first, not in governments. And BLM movement is not helping.
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now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I am sure racism is an issue everywhere to some degree, but then again people like to make it more of an issue as well.When the next immigrant wave crosses the Mediterranean, you will see the same racism be spewed, of this I am certain..
People never stopped being upset about illegal immigration on a large scale. Sure there probably is racism involved but the term is used so inflationary i don't think its fitting here. I think what Irish said is a bit more on point, imo most of these people feel some form of xenophobia.I do think racism is more to do with the human nature of that person is different to me therefore i should be afraid but this can be applied to all different arguments.
Most of these people should also just take a step back to realise how little it has actually affected their personal life.
At least the whole event breathed some life back into German/European politics, which I definitely prefer to the usual snoozefest EU politics tend to be.
As for the the protests in the US I find it strange that it takes yet another case of (racially motivated?) police brutality towards a black guy to trigger people to give BLM such a platform when other black people have been dying by the numbers for years not just at the hands of police, pointing to a much larger underlying problem than just police brutality.
The cause for these protests might be fair, but the riots and the vandalism take away so much credibility for everyone involved.
On a side note I wish everyone would give police officers more respect for doing their job, I feel especially people in "our" generation can really improve on that.
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now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I am sure racism is an issue everywhere to some degree, but then again people like to make it more of an issue as well.
if you would ask most people they would probably agree that these countries have racial problems? when you're a developing country and you can't even feed your most citizens, of course you wouldn't expect them to be able to deal with racial injustice.blanice bait
now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I am sure racism is an issue everywhere to some degree, but then again people like to make it more of an issue as well.
I was on about black lives matter not generally racism. In that regard why arent we talking about china? or the fact nigeria has never had a white/asian/native american/inuit/marsian president yet?
racist much?nobody cares about what's going chinablanice bait
now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I am sure racism is an issue everywhere to some degree, but then again people like to make it more of an issue as well.
I was on about black lives matter not generally racism. In that regard why arent we talking about china? or the fact nigeria has never had a white/asian/native american/inuit/marsian president yet?
to keep it short... Its blown up by the media, corporations and white left-wing people trying to 'look good' by trying to prove they aren't racist...i put a link to blm on my insta profile im not racist trust me
racist much?nobody cares about what's going chinablanice bait
now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I am sure racism is an issue everywhere to some degree, but then again people like to make it more of an issue as well.
I was on about black lives matter not generally racism. In that regard why arent we talking about china? or the fact nigeria has never had a white/asian/native american/inuit/marsian president yet?
Don't even need to have a black friend anymore, true efficiencyracist much?nobody cares about what's going chinablanice bait
now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
I am sure racism is an issue everywhere to some degree, but then again people like to make it more of an issue as well.
I was on about black lives matter not generally racism. In that regard why arent we talking about china? or the fact nigeria has never had a white/asian/native american/inuit/marsian president yet?to keep it short... Its blown up by the media, corporations and white left-wing people trying to 'look good' by trying to prove they aren't racist...i put a link to blm on my insta profile im not racist trust me
This is has to be like one of the few places on the internet where you can advocate for racial profiling and have people agree with you
This is has to be like one of the few places on the internet where you can advocate for racial profiling and have people agree with you
to keep it short... Its blown up by the media, corporations and white left-wing people trying to 'look good' by trying to prove they aren't racist...
People in the US don’t realize how nice they have it. Europeans are way more racist. These dudes still yell racial slurs at people during their sporting events lmao. Only place that still does that in America is Boston.Eh, Southern California, specifically Los Angeles and San Diego, are extremely racist despite having a diverse population. Burbank is the only place in America where I have seen Hispanics treat blacks like utter garbage in comparison to your average hill roamer in the Appalachians.
You guys just straight up hate black people lmaoyour like the most racist one here tho smh
You guys just straight up hate black people lmaoyour like the most racist one here tho smh
man don’t careYou guys just straight up hate black people lmaoyour like the most racist one here tho smh
Man used the wrong your smh
man don’t careYou guys just straight up hate black people lmaoyour like the most racist one here tho smh
Man used the wrong your smh
not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.
not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.
Dylann roof shoots up a black church, murders nine people, and gets treated to Burger King by his handlers.
Philip Brailsford mows down Daniel Shaver at point blank range while he is the ground, claims PTSD, and now reaps government benefits while laying back in the Arizona sun.
Stephon Clark gets filled with lead in his grandmother's backyard while on the phone. The cops are later acquitted, their experiences being labeled as tragic, while Clark is dismissed as a druggie thug who had it coming.
not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.cops do fucked up shit everywhere to everyone
but his name was trayvon!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.cops do fucked up shit everywhere to everyone
>France : thousands upon thousands of mostly white yellow-vests, including many elders, killed, wounded, one-eyed, their limbs ripped off = no one cares, and when they do its only an excuse to shittalk the french government
>One random black french dude killed by cops : strikes, newspaper frontpages, social media losing their shit
>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
yes my NA bros, call the europeans more racist than u
Black people in america are more important then white working class people in the UK, get with the times buddy. A couple of thousand drugged and sexually exploited children across the working class north of England are a price worth paying in the name of diversity!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
The people of russia elect their leaders yes.are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
so were just going to act like half of eastern europe doesn't pass heavily anti lgbt legislation hidden behind the veil of religion?
wasn’t this a couple years ago? I don’t really see how it’s relevant to what I saidBlack people in america are more important then white working class people in the UK, get with the times buddy. A couple of thousand drugged and sexually exploited children across the working class north of England are a price worth paying in the name of diversity!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
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wasn’t this a couple years ago? I don’t really see how it’s relevant to what I saidBlack people in america are more important then white working class people in the UK, get with the times buddy. A couple of thousand drugged and sexually exploited children across the working class north of England are a price worth paying in the name of diversity!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
(https://i.gyazo.com/8e545bd9f8ed04fc39d86d112a7bb655.png)
wtf manBlack people in america are more important then white working class people in the UK, get with the times buddy. A couple of thousand drugged and sexually exploited children across the working class north of England are a price worth paying in the name of diversity!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
(https://i.gyazo.com/8e545bd9f8ed04fc39d86d112a7bb655.png)
The people of russia elect their leaders yes.are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
so were just going to act like half of eastern europe doesn't pass heavily anti lgbt legislation hidden behind the veil of religion?
who the fuck cares?are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
so were just going to act like half of eastern europe doesn't pass heavily anti lgbt legislation hidden behind the veil of religion?
wasn’t this a couple years ago? I don’t really see how it’s relevant to what I saidBlack people in america are more important then white working class people in the UK, get with the times buddy. A couple of thousand drugged and sexually exploited children across the working class north of England are a price worth paying in the name of diversity!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
(https://i.gyazo.com/8e545bd9f8ed04fc39d86d112a7bb655.png)
who the fuck cares?are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
so were just going to act like half of eastern europe doesn't pass heavily anti lgbt legislation hidden behind the veil of religion?
how is it your business?
how is this legislation a bad thing?
so many questionsits relevant as in cops do "fucked up shit" everywhere to everyone and if there are obv some places on earth where ethnic minorities get it worst than the indigenous group the West certainely isnt part of them, quite the opposite actuallySpoilerwasn’t this a couple years ago? I don’t really see how it’s relevant to what I saidBlack people in america are more important then white working class people in the UK, get with the times buddy. A couple of thousand drugged and sexually exploited children across the working class north of England are a price worth paying in the name of diversity!not a political issue lol if you don’t see the wrong in what’s happening you’re probably just racist. While western media is trash (mostly), the unedited videos that random people upload of cops doing fucked up shit has been going on for years now.>UK : Telford racially motivated child sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs on white girls involving thousands of them
>UK government: literally forbids its police from investigating the affair so they dont look racist
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above all i advocate for self-absorbed north-american countries not meddling with what clearly is none of their business
secondly the aim of the LGBTQRZAFHDG2X-i'll-let-u-guys-complete-the-scrabble movements isnt to grant equal rights to those theyre defending, its to give more rights than that of the average citizen since its also supposed to deprive him from several of his rights. so in fact passing this anti-LGBT legislation is in a sense more equalitarianistically driven than anything the US has ever done in that regard
thats what the italics are for.The people of russia elect their leaders yes.are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
so were just going to act like half of eastern europe doesn't pass heavily anti lgbt legislation hidden behind the veil of religion?
i hope your being sarcastic but tbh idk anymore
nobody tell phailur that jim crow laws still existed 65 years ago.wow janne u r god
Imagine being that low of a human being that the only thing you truly enjoy when you turn on your computer is being a dick to others. I took the time to explain why the descriptions were the way they were, yet you couldn't prevent yourself from attempting at trashtalking it, probably because you truly have nothing better to do in your life.nobody tell phailur that jim crow laws still existed 65 years ago.wow janne u r god
Imagine being that low of a human being that the only thing you truly enjoy when you turn on your computer is being a dick to others. I took the time to explain why the descriptions were the way they were, yet you couldn't prevent yourself from attempting at trashtalking it, probably because you truly have nothing better to do in your life.nobody tell phailur that jim crow laws still existed 65 years ago.wow janne u r god
Your overall contribution on this forum seems to be a constant uphill struggle against stupidity, anger and envy. I honestly pity you.
above all i advocate for self-absorbed north-american countries not meddling with what clearly is none of their businesslol what rights were taken away from you
secondly the aim of the LGBTQRZAFHDG2X-i'll-let-u-guys-complete-the-scrabble movements isnt to grant equal rights to those theyre defending, its to give more rights than that of the average citizen since its also supposed to deprive him from several of his rights. so in fact passing this anti-LGBT legislation is in a sense more equalitarianistically driven than anything the US has ever done in that regard
American social movements aren’t happening because of slavery dudethats what the italics are for.The people of russia elect their leaders yes.are we fighting for equal rights or for more rights for blacks, women, transgender, etc?
wait, everyone already has equal rights
so were just going to act like half of eastern europe doesn't pass heavily anti lgbt legislation hidden behind the veil of religion?
i hope your being sarcastic but tbh idk anymore
now for the americans:
Just because in america you feel bad because slaves in america where black it doesnt translate into an all encompassing theory of human psychology. Some people are racist, some arent. My grandmother was a slave-servant for a german family during WW2. Many Polaks were deported to siberia and forced into slave labour. boohoo black slaves waaa. It seems like you are those kinds of people who are on the less racist side, but remember there always will be those who are racist. Every human on earth has a reaction of caution to other people who look and act weird to them - perhaps its a useful trait to have, same as when you encounter a wild animal you dont just go straight at it.
:-*SpoilerImagine being that low of a human being that the only thing you truly enjoy when you turn on your computer is being a dick to others. I took the time to explain why the descriptions were the way they were, yet you couldn't prevent yourself from attempting at trashtalking it, probably because you truly have nothing better to do in your life.nobody tell phailur that jim crow laws still existed 65 years ago.wow janne u r god
Your overall contribution on this forum seems to be a constant uphill struggle against stupidity, anger and envy. I honestly pity you.[close]
do u guy like gay ppl?
do u guy like gay ppl?
above all i advocate for self-absorbed north-american countries not meddling with what clearly is none of their business
secondly the aim of the LGBTQRZAFHDG2X-i'll-let-u-guys-complete-the-scrabble movements isnt to grant equal rights to those theyre defending, its to give more rights than that of the average citizen since its also supposed to deprive him from several of his rights. so in fact passing this anti-LGBT legislation is in a sense more equalitarianistically driven than anything the US has ever done in that regard
attempting to pass laws forcing me to refer to trans-LGBTQblablabla people exclusively by their pathetic fanciful made-up pronouns under threat of being fined violates my right to freedom of speech - which includes my right to call anyone by whatever the fuck i want to with the only exceptions of what encompasses "hate speech" and "inducing clear and present danger to people" - to the benefit of someone else, namely trans-LGBT people, and is literally unconstitutionalabove all i advocate for self-absorbed north-american countries not meddling with what clearly is none of their businesslol what rights were taken away from you
secondly the aim of the LGBTQRZAFHDG2X-i'll-let-u-guys-complete-the-scrabble movements isnt to grant equal rights to those theyre defending, its to give more rights than that of the average citizen since its also supposed to deprive him from several of his rights. so in fact passing this anti-LGBT legislation is in a sense more equalitarianistically driven than anything the US has ever done in that regard
attempting to pass laws forcing me to refer to trans-LGBTQblablabla people exclusively by their pathetic fanciful made-up pronouns under threat of being fined violates my right to freedom of speech - which includes my right to call anyone by whatever the fuck i want to with the only exceptions of what encompasses "hate speech" and "inducing clear and present danger to people" - to the benefit of someone else, namely trans-LGBT people, and is literally unconstitutionalabove all i advocate for self-absorbed north-american countries not meddling with what clearly is none of their businesslol what rights were taken away from you
secondly the aim of the LGBTQRZAFHDG2X-i'll-let-u-guys-complete-the-scrabble movements isnt to grant equal rights to those theyre defending, its to give more rights than that of the average citizen since its also supposed to deprive him from several of his rights. so in fact passing this anti-LGBT legislation is in a sense more equalitarianistically driven than anything the US has ever done in that regard
u knw my dude i guess there's been some legitimate laws prohibiting people from refering to a certain group by using certains slurs (e.g FUCKING NIGGER COON), but prohibiting people from refering to a group by ANYTHING ELSE than their imaginary pronouns, thats got to be a fucking first in human history
what a time to be alive
i like how dayboul complains about "main stream brain washing" but clearly he's been watching a bit too much jordan peterson
attempting to pass laws forcing me to refer to trans-LGBTQblablabla people exclusively by their pathetic fanciful made-up pronouns under threat of being fined violates my right to freedom of speech - which includes my right to call anyone by whatever the fuck i want to with the only exceptions of what encompasses "hate speech" and "inducing clear and present danger to people" - to the benefit of someone else, namely trans-LGBT people, and is literally unconstitutionalabove all i advocate for self-absorbed north-american countries not meddling with what clearly is none of their businesslol what rights were taken away from you
secondly the aim of the LGBTQRZAFHDG2X-i'll-let-u-guys-complete-the-scrabble movements isnt to grant equal rights to those theyre defending, its to give more rights than that of the average citizen since its also supposed to deprive him from several of his rights. so in fact passing this anti-LGBT legislation is in a sense more equalitarianistically driven than anything the US has ever done in that regard
u knw my dude i guess there's been some legitimate laws prohibiting people from refering to a certain group by using certains slurs (e.g FUCKING NIGGER COON), but prohibiting people from refering to a group by ANYTHING ELSE than their imaginary pronouns, thats got to be a fucking first in human history
what a time to be alive
Who tf is forcing you to call anyone anything, you can call others gay if you want to or not but that's besides the point, in professional settings you have to respect them and just because you can't go around calling them slurs doesn't mean that your rights are being violated.
i like how dayboul complains about "main stream brain washing" but clearly he's been watching a bit too much jordan petersonthe irony, in my experience people labeling someone as either against or in favour of peterson solely based on their position regarding trans-LGBT issues are usually the ones who watch him the most :-X i dont like him but i can admit when someone i dont like is right, evidently a concept ur unfamiliar with
you know transgenderism is included in the lbgT?
I don't really understand what you're trying to say in your first part of the message. People who talk about Peterson's views watch him the most? I'm pretty sure his followers watch him the most.
Don't say what I'm saying is ironic when you don't even know how much I watch Peterson's videos. The irony is you parroting his arguments, while complaining about mainstream "brainwashing"
you know transgenderism is included in the lbgT?
I don't really understand what you're trying to say in your first part of the message. People who talk about Peterson's views watch him the most? I'm pretty sure his followers watch him the most.
Don't say what I'm saying is ironic when you don't even know how much I watch Peterson's videos. The irony is you parroting his arguments, while complaining about mainstream "brainwashing"
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/913533213301182465
this y'alls intellectual? yikes
you know transgenderism is included in the lbgT?so you dont watch peterson's videos but still you're that knowledgeable about his arguments that you know when someone is parroting them? mate you're contradicting yourself 24/7 its embarassing lmao
I don't really understand what you're trying to say in your first part of the message. People who talk about Peterson's views watch him the most? I'm pretty sure his followers watch him the most.
Don't say what I'm saying is ironic when you don't even know how much I watch Peterson's videos. The irony is you parroting his arguments, while complaining about mainstream "brainwashing"
Jordan Peterson is a "philosopher" for white incels who think white genocide is a thing while perpetrating "race science" and hating on womenthe first part is true but define "white genocide?"
lgbt ppl are a bunch of *snip*god damn true asfuck saf u tell em
you know transgenderism is included in the lbgT?so you dont watch peterson's videos but still you're that knowledgeable about his arguments that you know when someone is parroting them? mate you're contradicting yourself 24/7 its embarassing lmao
I don't really understand what you're trying to say in your first part of the message. People who talk about Peterson's views watch him the most? I'm pretty sure his followers watch him the most.
Don't say what I'm saying is ironic when you don't even know how much I watch Peterson's videos. The irony is you parroting his arguments, while complaining about mainstream "brainwashing"
person 1 : says something about LGBT issues
person 2 : instantly labels that person as either pro-peterson or anti-peterson depending on what the person said while it has very little to nothing to do with the discussion
who is the more likely to be watching peterson videos? you can do itJordan Peterson is a "philosopher" for white incels who think white genocide is a thing while perpetrating "race science" and hating on womenthe first part is true but define "white genocide?"
How can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?
How can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?
did anybody ever mention you?
How can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?
did anybody ever mention you?
You'd say the same to me if I shared my opinions first lmao. I'm legit just asking so can you please answer instead of being the tRoLl you like to be?
same can be said about u, you're out there roaming fse threads all day eveeryday to post 2229 posts no one asked for only to give your unsolicited opinion you might aswell shut the fuck up, idk why you'd ever assume ppl want to hear what can possibly come out of your ugric cave dwelling untermensch brainHow can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?did anybody ever mention you?
How can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?
did anybody ever mention you?
You'd say the same to me if I shared my opinions first lmao. I'm legit just asking so can you please answer instead of being the tRoLl you like to be?
The arguments dayboul is making have been popularized by Peterson. It's a pretty safe assumption to make that he's watched some of his content and is now parroting what he's heard from him.
I doubt you'd be typing the exact same arguments Peterson has made without being familiar with his arguments. What dayboul has been writing just reeks of Peterson and he's not even denying it.
what, using someone else's perfectly valid point makes it automatically incorrect? i've just made a point and you keep whining about how it resembles one that some other dudes made. Not only did i never appropriate myself the argument - not that its only his to use anyway - but it doesnt invalidate it either.guys peterson has complete monopoly over all arguments that ever existed regarding this subject and he can sue you for using them, fucking deal with it yallyou're again just putting words in my mouth. it's pretty clear that you're unable to handle a conversation. you just try to own and get epic gotchas.
which you said right after he literally stated that he agreed with me so it was gonna apply to him anyway?same can be said about u, you're out there roaming fse threads all day eveeryday to post 2229 posts no one asked for only to give your unsolicited opinion you might aswell shut the fuck up, idk why you'd ever assume ppl want to hear what can possibly come out of your ugric cave dwelling untermensch braincompletely missed the point of my question. i asked if anybody ever mentioned him, because he assumed that what i said about you would also necessarily apply to him.
also good job showing your true colours nazi boy
what, using someone else's perfectly valid point makes it automatically incorrect? i've just made a point and you keep whining about how it resembles one that some other dudes made. Not only did i never appropriate myself the argument - not that its only his to use anyway - but it doesnt invalidate it either.guys peterson has complete monopoly over all arguments that ever existed regarding this subject and he can sue you for using them, fucking deal with it yallyou're again just putting words in my mouth. it's pretty clear that you're unable to handle a conversation. you just try to own and get epic gotchas.
so far your only point u kept repeating is "its peterson's argument" which isnt even correct, and even if it were i dont see the problem in that
which you said right after he literally stated that he agreed with me so it was gonna apply to him anyway?
nordic countries have a long lasting tradition of being germany's bitch, i thought you'd understand better in german:)
i dont see how completely devoid of arguments virtue-signalling brainwash targeted at masses by medias who overwhelmingly belong to the same political side is comparable to an elaborated pointI've never even said that "your" arguments were incorrect or correct. so far I've only said that "It's funny that you're complaining about mainstream media brainwashing while parroting Peterson's arguments".what, using someone else's perfectly valid point makes it automatically incorrect? i've just made a point and you keep whining about how it resembles one that some other dudes made. Not only did i never appropriate myself the argument - not that its only his to use anyway - but it doesnt invalidate it either.guys peterson has complete monopoly over all arguments that ever existed regarding this subject and he can sue you for using them, fucking deal with it yallyou're again just putting words in my mouth. it's pretty clear that you're unable to handle a conversation. you just try to own and get epic gotchas.
so far your only point u kept repeating is "its peterson's argument" which isnt even correct, and even if it were i dont see the problem in that
?nordic countries have a long lasting tradition of being germany's bitch, i thought you'd understand better in german:)something something battle of france, nice one bro.
You're 2.5x more likely to get fatally shot by police in America if you are black (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123070/police-shootings-rate-ethnicity-us/)How can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?
did anybody ever mention you?
You'd say the same to me if I shared my opinions first lmao. I'm legit just asking so can you please answer instead of being the tRoLl you like to be?
The arguments dayboul is making have been popularized by Peterson. It's a pretty safe assumption to make that he's watched some of his content and is now parroting what he's heard from him.
I doubt you'd be typing the exact same arguments Peterson has made without being familiar with his arguments. What dayboul has been writing just reeks of Peterson and he's not even denying it.
Fair enough, though I'm sure I'd use very similar arguments, as I verily disagree with having someone to force me to call a biological woman a man or vice versa.
I do realise the world isn't black and white and that this might be an extreme but at the same time I believe all this violence against black people is an extreme overblown by media as well.
i mean you're just deludedi dont see how completely devoid of arguments virtue-signalling brainwash targeted at masses by medias who overwhelmingly belong to the same political side is comparable to an elaborated pointI've never even said that "your" arguments were incorrect or correct. so far I've only said that "It's funny that you're complaining about mainstream media brainwashing while parroting Peterson's arguments".what, using someone else's perfectly valid point makes it automatically incorrect? i've just made a point and you keep whining about how it resembles one that some other dudes made. Not only did i never appropriate myself the argument - not that its only his to use anyway - but it doesnt invalidate it either.guys peterson has complete monopoly over all arguments that ever existed regarding this subject and he can sue you for using them, fucking deal with it yallyou're again just putting words in my mouth. it's pretty clear that you're unable to handle a conversation. you just try to own and get epic gotchas.
so far your only point u kept repeating is "its peterson's argument" which isnt even correct, and even if it were i dont see the problem in that
lgbt ppl are a bunch of *snip*god damn true asfuck saf u tell em
yes bro the majority of medias arent making profit but they're still around by the work of the holy spirit, its magic. Whoever funds a media has partial to total power over what it says its not even something far-fetched or out of line and im pretty sure most ppl would agree on it? if a business isnt financially worth it yet still operational, then it means its made worth it by having a non-pecuniary return on investment e.g in this case : popular opinion, its not even that complicatedi mean you're just deludedi dont see how completely devoid of arguments virtue-signalling brainwash targeted at masses by medias who overwhelmingly belong to the same political side is comparable to an elaborated pointI've never even said that "your" arguments were incorrect or correct. so far I've only said that "It's funny that you're complaining about mainstream media brainwashing while parroting Peterson's arguments".what, using someone else's perfectly valid point makes it automatically incorrect? i've just made a point and you keep whining about how it resembles one that some other dudes made. Not only did i never appropriate myself the argument - not that its only his to use anyway - but it doesnt invalidate it either.guys peterson has complete monopoly over all arguments that ever existed regarding this subject and he can sue you for using them, fucking deal with it yallyou're again just putting words in my mouth. it's pretty clear that you're unable to handle a conversation. you just try to own and get epic gotchas.
so far your only point u kept repeating is "its peterson's argument" which isnt even correct, and even if it were i dont see the problem in that
now can't know why you think "media" is all brainwashing virtue signalling whatever, but if i had to guess it's rooted in some kind of ((((conspiracy)))). really makes you think who's actually "brainwashed" xd
never expected jane to be a lIbTaRdits scary what a nordic country does to you
I can't speak for other countries but what I noticed about our protests here in Sweden they felt mostly imported from the US.
People were shouting "What's his name" And then they responded with "George Floyd!".
And they were doing it all in full english.
To me it just seems like getting on the trend of blacks vs whites while our more pressing problems here lie with discrimination towards Iraqis, Somalis, Turks and other middle-eastern ethnicities. Our major issue is not black swedes getting opressed.
now seriously - is this an issue in france/germany? It makes more sense for it to be an issue in the english speaking world where a lot of culture is easily transferred.
gee i wonderread the whole post before typing + stop attributing your own thoughts to me tyvm
You're 2.5x more likely to get fatally shot by police in America if you are black (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123070/police-shootings-rate-ethnicity-us/)How can him, or me, as I pretty much agree with most of what dayboul said, parrot ideas of someone I have never watched nor cared about?
did anybody ever mention you?
You'd say the same to me if I shared my opinions first lmao. I'm legit just asking so can you please answer instead of being the tRoLl you like to be?
The arguments dayboul is making have been popularized by Peterson. It's a pretty safe assumption to make that he's watched some of his content and is now parroting what he's heard from him.
I doubt you'd be typing the exact same arguments Peterson has made without being familiar with his arguments. What dayboul has been writing just reeks of Peterson and he's not even denying it.
Fair enough, though I'm sure I'd use very similar arguments, as I verily disagree with having someone to force me to call a biological woman a man or vice versa.
I do realise the world isn't black and white and that this might be an extreme but at the same time I believe all this violence against black people is an extreme overblown by media as well.
Now now, I know people LOVE to bring up the fact most of this is done by blacks themselves, but allow me point something out. Every single ethnic/racial group in America that has faced discrimination, gentrification, marginalization, and inequity follows the exact same path of activity. Italians? Yep. Russians? Yep. Irish? Yep. Jews? Yep. Chinese? Yep. Turns out most of the violence occurring amongst said groups, was disproportionately committed by their own people. It's nothing new.
Furthermore, all of the groups I just listed, suffered or continue to suffer by the hand of the US government and certain subsections of the intergrated population. The government-funded death squads during the Contra War even funneled cocaine across the border, much of which ended up in minority communities that still have profoundly negative impacts on them, nearly 40 years after the fact. As a result, the only feasibly way they could provide for their families was through illegal methods, primarily organized crime. Does this justify their crimes? No, but they weren't exactly given any other choice. They do not, by any sort of reasonable measure, have the social and economic opportunities that other groups benefit from. They grow up in lousy environments, are taught under a severely underfunded education system, and have next to zero ways of advancing to the middle-class.
The most ridiculous thing to come out of this whole debacle is the absurd notion that somehow being black inherently makes you more prone to acts of violence. Black on black crime? No shit pal, segregation may have ended in the 60s but that doesn't mean the races started to magically intermingle with each other. Of course they are going to similar rates of violence when they all live relatively close to each other. Speaking of crimes rates by color, where are the discussions revolving around white on white violence? You know, the most common demographic that makes up the majority of criminal activity? Oh that's right, I forgot we can't make it an issue because it does not serve its purpose as a wedge to further complicate the already overwhelming issue of American racial disparities! Who would have ever guessed that in a mostly segregated society, people will commit crimes against their own ethnic group, within their own municipality, instead of towards those that are outside of it? One of the more bizarre aspects is the usage of black crime statistics as a method of diverting attention from the rampant acts of misconduct committed by an unrestrained police force tripping on power.
If you want to take this to a national level, the orange protofascist and his posse of cultists certainly aren't helping with their racially-charged rhetoric directed at minorities. You can't expect to address these problems with any sort of validity when you DENY that the problem even exists. This isn't even a race problem anymore, as some of the more cognitive-lacking portions of this nation have actually convinced themselves that wearing a mask during a pandemic is a sign of ideological conformity.
We could also discuss how the RCMP has a bad tendency to beat the shit out of First Nations peoples.
Studies from the CCA indicate, and I quote, the following:
• Indigenous Canadians are 11 times more likely than non-Indigenous Canadians to be accused of homicide.
• Indigenous Canadians are 56 per cent more likely to be victims of crime than other In 2016, Indigenous Canadians represented 25 per cent of the national male prison population and 35 per cent of the national female prison population.
• In 2016, Indigenous Canadians represented 25 per cent of the national male prison population and 35 per cent of the national female prison population
Of course, most Canadians will respond will the classic "not as bad as America" deflection to avoid any sort of uncomfortable conversation. Oh well!
ight nazi boinazi stands for national socialist btw
ight nazi boinazi stands for national socialist btw
untermensch
I can't speak for other countries but what I noticed about our protests here in Sweden they felt mostly imported from the US.*snip*
People were shouting "What's his name" And then they responded with "George Floyd!".
And they were doing it all in full english.
To me it just seems like getting on the trend of blacks vs whites while our more pressing problems here lie with discrimination towards Iraqis, Somalis, Turks and other middle-eastern ethnicities. Our major issue is not black swedes getting opressed.
Depends really how you view it. Are there black ethnic Swedes? I doubt it as any long-term black presence would disappear due to natural adaptation of their skin.SpoilerI can't speak for other countries but what I noticed about our protests here in Sweden they felt mostly imported from the US.*snip*
People were shouting "What's his name" And then they responded with "George Floyd!".
And they were doing it all in full english.
To me it just seems like getting on the trend of blacks vs whites while our more pressing problems here lie with discrimination towards Iraqis, Somalis, Turks and other middle-eastern ethnicities. Our major issue is not black swedes getting opressed.[close]
I can't speak for other countries but what I noticed about our protests here in Sweden they felt mostly imported from the US.*snip*
People were shouting "What's his name" And then they responded with "George Floyd!".
And they were doing it all in full english.
To me it just seems like getting on the trend of blacks vs whites while our more pressing problems here lie with discrimination towards Iraqis, Somalis, Turks and other middle-eastern ethnicities. Our major issue is not black swedes getting opressed.
HAHA how the fuck was that worth a warning?I can't speak for other countries but what I noticed about our protests here in Sweden they felt mostly imported from the US.*snip*
People were shouting "What's his name" And then they responded with "George Floyd!".
And they were doing it all in full english.
To me it just seems like getting on the trend of blacks vs whites while our more pressing problems here lie with discrimination towards Iraqis, Somalis, Turks and other middle-eastern ethnicities. Our major issue is not black swedes getting opressed.
i think germans are also untermenschen but okuntermensch
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wait so he openly admits to being a racist?? i wish dayboul was that honestwhats wrong with racism cracker?
wait so he openly admits to being a racist?? i wish dayboul was that honestwhy u accusing me bro, your mom fucking die?