Flying Squirrel Entertainment

Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: Superb_Pedro on May 01, 2019, 03:58:07 am

Title: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Superb_Pedro on May 01, 2019, 03:58:07 am
For those of you who believe the melee mechs are worse than they were before, this is a short discussion.


Long time ago, a few alive NW developers decided to fix and polish the NW melee by adding lots of fixes in 2018. However, those fixes made nw melee even more cancer by stabbing a person making them glance 70% of the time. A lot of people are asking for the reverted patch of nw since most of them don't like what most of the developers tweaked in blocking, attacking, and hitboxes. It is reasonable to ask those of you in wanting to revert this current patch from now to 2012 or another.

I believe its the time to revert back to the old patch to bring those good melee days back until bannerlord releases anytime soon(2022). Hopefully, some of the developers can do that favor for those in the request for a change in the NW melee mechs.


Update*: I decided to change it to 2015 since the patch is probably updated and has a few bugs but better than the current patch.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012 AGAIN
Post by: @theRealBluenose on May 01, 2019, 04:11:34 am
Fuck yes
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Kuni Garu on May 01, 2019, 04:20:27 am
https://youtu.be/pM4AqOfDaFQ
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Piktonss on May 01, 2019, 04:21:37 am
https://youtu.be/pM4AqOfDaFQ

Begone Kuni
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Kuni Garu on May 01, 2019, 04:24:19 am
https://youtu.be/AFCxHmtHTGU
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Wastee on May 01, 2019, 04:46:20 am
People voting yes but they haven't actually played the buggy piece of shit that 2012 melee is

e.i glances have no animations e.t.c
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Yoshiee on May 01, 2019, 04:51:16 am
revert to 16 before the new factions basicly is what he meant i think
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: MATT123456789 on May 01, 2019, 05:46:27 am
People voting yes but they haven't actually played the buggy piece of shit that 2012 melee is

e.i glances have no animations e.t.c

this.

go to the 2013-2016 patch

although i do love how fast the up attack is, i wish we could keep it that speed

also

the last time I talked to the dev of NW, even though I was very courteous and respectful, he was still disrespectful and told me  "go f*** yourself"  and refused to read my 12 page manifesto on how the 2013 patch will bring happiness and joy to NW.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: UniversitasMetal on May 01, 2019, 02:22:04 pm
What's the point lmao.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Herishey on May 01, 2019, 02:45:24 pm
I doubt it'll happen now and it's better than it was when this patch was first released as they did make a few improvements. But I definitely prefered 2015-16 melee.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Shadow on May 01, 2019, 04:00:35 pm
Extremely likely not happening. I feel like this has come up before too, and devs still said no.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Syncmaster667 on May 01, 2019, 06:17:11 pm
I personally don't believe it actually matters anymore, the game is old, not many people play it as back in the day and we are pretty much just waiting on BCoF to release. Im sure they can always use the input from this thread to help shape BCoF, but as far as ive heard they don't want a direct copy of NW. I wouldn't object to it either changing or staying the same.

But then again, I don't like melee anyway :) Much prefer shooting and running away #LightInfantryMasterRace
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Eamon on May 01, 2019, 06:20:39 pm
Pedro was shit in 2014 don't know how he's expected to know what melee in 2012 was lel
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Golden. on May 01, 2019, 07:09:52 pm
I personally don't believe it actually matters anymore, the game is old, not many people play it as back in the day and we are pretty much just waiting on BCoF to release. Im sure they can always use the input from this thread to help shape BCoF, but as far as ive heard they don't want a direct copy of NW. I wouldn't object to it either changing or staying the same.

But then again, I don't like melee anyway :) Much prefer shooting and running away #LightInfantryMasterRace

Sorry who's waiting on BCoF release ?
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Syncmaster667 on May 01, 2019, 07:31:53 pm
I personally don't believe it actually matters anymore, the game is old, not many people play it as back in the day and we are pretty much just waiting on BCoF to release. Im sure they can always use the input from this thread to help shape BCoF, but as far as ive heard they don't want a direct copy of NW. I wouldn't object to it either changing or staying the same.

But then again, I don't like melee anyway :) Much prefer shooting and running away #LightInfantryMasterRace

Sorry who's waiting on BCoF release ?
Must be just me then  :'(
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Superb_Pedro on May 02, 2019, 01:05:07 am
Extremely likely not happening. I feel like this has come up before too, and devs still said no.

Only a referendum by the people can change the minds of the developers.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Earth Bby on May 02, 2019, 01:39:42 am
Extremely likely not happening. I feel like this has come up before too, and devs still said no.

Only a referendum by the people can change the minds of the developers.

You're not familiar with the devs then
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: TheZach_Attack on May 02, 2019, 01:41:26 am
dat x x
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Pinoy12 on May 02, 2019, 04:10:41 am
dat x x
what dem new gens kno bout dat
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: fireboy on May 02, 2019, 04:22:57 am
dat x x
what dem new gens kno bout dat

They ain’t know jack shit bout the double x meta
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Sanders on May 02, 2019, 06:37:57 am
https://youtu.be/UYpg2boisFM
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2015 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Superb_Pedro on May 03, 2019, 04:43:51 am
Since 54 people voted on the poll, about the majority want to revert to the old patches.

I'm going to put a list of dates for patches related to melee.

This will be the final poll to make a decision for the alive developers to make.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Wastee on May 03, 2019, 08:29:10 am
You could always revert your server to that patch and make people install it as a mod
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Superb_Pedro on May 03, 2019, 08:31:48 am
You could always revert your server to that patch and make people install it as a mod

Do you think those people will actually take the time to install those patches? I don't think so!
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Risk_ on May 03, 2019, 08:35:30 am
It isn't going to happen because of Talewords, not fse. I tried talking to the devs months ago and I think Vince requested to change the files back and TW said no (I was told of something like that).
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Vincenzo on May 03, 2019, 08:58:05 pm
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: sirkaide on May 03, 2019, 10:37:10 pm
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

Ask TW's can you produce another patch! We want Kebab (Turkey) as a faction!
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: MATT123456789 on May 04, 2019, 12:23:20 am
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

Ask TW's can you produce another patch! We want Kebab (Turkey) as a faction!

"Insulting some based of their ethnic background, appearance and using terms like "scumbag" is pretty low."

oh the irony

Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Golden. on May 04, 2019, 12:27:42 am
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

I for one enjoyed the last patch and thank you for that last hooray !
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Yoshiee on May 04, 2019, 07:00:45 am
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

I for one enjoyed the last patch and thank you for that last hooray !
dont assume everyone think ill of the patch sure more pokes is annoying but we got a new faction and some admin tools that make linebattle run alot smoother
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Rikkert on May 04, 2019, 12:17:43 pm
The negative people are always loud vincenzo. People who enjoy it often stay quiet. I don't mind the melee changes as much, and the admin tools are insanely helpful. Surgeons and rheinbund were fun extras aswell.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Wastee on May 05, 2019, 01:35:43 am
The negative people are always loud vincenzo. People who enjoy it often stay quiet. I don't mind the melee changes as much, and the admin tools are insanely helpful. Surgeons and rheinbund were fun extras aswell.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: sirkaide on May 06, 2019, 02:10:30 am
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

Ask TW's can you produce another patch! We want Kebab (Turkey) as a faction!

"Insulting some based of their ethnic background, appearance and using terms like "scumbag" is pretty low."

oh the irony

I haven't insulted anyone based on their ethnic background.  So I don't see the irony. Learn some English mate! Kebab is a cuisine of Turkey. Thus it is a cultural expression. You're offended on other peoples behalf, the height of irony! Please don't be a snowflake.
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: MATT123456789 on May 06, 2019, 02:41:06 am
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

Ask TW's can you produce another patch! We want Kebab (Turkey) as a faction!

"Insulting some based of their ethnic background, appearance and using terms like "scumbag" is pretty low."

oh the irony

I haven't insulted anyone based on their ethnic background.  So I don't see the irony. Learn some English mate! Kebab is a cuisine of Turkey. Thus it is a cultural expression. You're offended on other peoples behalf, the height of irony! Please don't be a snowflake.

dont be a snowflake? in the other thread you were writing paragraphs because some guy that made fun of your ethnicity, then I call you scum as a meme and you report my post lmao.

kebab is a derogatory term for turks and middle easterners
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: sirkaide on May 06, 2019, 01:36:57 pm
Never going to happen anyway but the changes you feel are not something we did but simply stuff Taleworlds did in their engine as always randomly changing things they don't expect.

I think it has to do with when they released that viking expansion and kept updating the engine for it, nothing we can do, nothing we can change nothing Taleworlds will change either.

The last hotfix we made did revert some minor things that we can change to 2016 stuff. so that's it. we can't do more.

The game is finished. it will not be pached anymore, the last patch only got us hate whilst it was meant as a last hooray for the community, but you guys are all only negative. so enjoy the game as it is now. we will instead focus on new titles that have a chance of bringing in any money.

Ask TW's can you produce another patch! We want Kebab (Turkey) as a faction!

"Insulting some based of their ethnic background, appearance and using terms like "scumbag" is pretty low."

oh the irony

I haven't insulted anyone based on their ethnic background.  So I don't see the irony. Learn some English mate! Kebab is a cuisine of Turkey. Thus it is a cultural expression. You're offended on other peoples behalf, the height of irony! Please don't be a snowflake.

dont be a snowflake? in the other thread you were writing paragraphs because some guy that made fun of your ethnicity, then I call you scum as a meme and you report my post lmao.

kebab is a derogatory term for turks and middle easterners

Stop crying you snow flake
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Jayke on May 06, 2019, 04:48:12 pm
Americans Kaide leave em be
Title: Re: MAKE NW MELEE 2012-2016 AGAIN (VOTE)
Post by: Tommmy on May 13, 2019, 08:40:47 am
Americans Kaide leave em be
Always have to back your bredrin