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Title: [CCL - S1] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: CCL Official on January 20, 2019, 11:03:59 pm
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The Cavalry Champions League started last week with our height regiments taking their first footings into the competition.

The 11e Régiment de Hussard, lead by Lindblom and considered as a strong contender for the title had a tough first match-up as they took on the French heavies from the 1er Régiment de Cuirassiers in the opening match of the CCL. After a flying start which saw them taking a 3-0 lead without many answers from their opponents, the 1erRC managed to grab one round, only to see the 11e striking two back to back, securing the draw and offering themselves a four round lead quite easily. From that point forward, many could have expected the 1erRC to collapse however the French and Poles managed to gather themselves, took advantage from their slow-paced play-style and with lots of patience, managed to crawl back and reduce the 11e's lead to one little round only, 5-4.

After nearly two hours of intense plays, it took a lot of composure from both teams to not crumble under pressure and in what would be a highly contested final round, the 11e managed to secure a slim victory, mostly thanks to an amazing Shadey who prevented a 1v2 clutch to go in the favour of the 1erRC; in the very last moment of the encounter. Netherveless, the 1erRC showed a strong resilience for their first match of the CCL and despite not being able to get the draw, they fully deserve that defensive bonus and send a clear message to their future opponent. On the 11e's side, they managed to avoid getting upset in their first match and despite the 1erRC's come back, they can still be happy as they have gained four important points against an opponent which is likely to cause troubles to many of other top regiments of the CCL.

The three remaining matches of the first week were all played on Sunday and as expected, two of them ended up being extremely one-sided matches. The 4e was simply too much to handle for the 2Lr and despite a strong showing in numbers from the 16e/KGL alliance, they didn't manage to find a gap in the Nr6's armour. With that being said, it is only the first matches and both the 16e and the 2Lr will have plenty of occasions to prove their worth later in the tournament.

The last match of this first week was a completely different story however, as the Nr4 and the 5e offered to our viewers a nail-biting series which took place on all ten rounds of the match. It all started with the Nr4 making one hell of a strong statement in taking the first two rounds quite convincingly, making the 5e doubt themselves very early on. The Frenchmen under Exofrance's leadership didn't give up and manage to grab one back but in a similar fashion to the 11e vs 1erRC's match, the Nr4 was simply too strong and despite the 5e gaining the numerical advantage in several rounds, they were unable to convert these advantages into actual rounds. As the Nr4 reached five rounds, the 5e was only sitting on two and the Frenchmen saw themselves with their backs against the wall, with no more room for mistakes. Fortunately for them, it was at this moment that they seemed to wake-up as a whole and as they were continually gaining the numerical advantage, they did not let these rounds slip away from them and managed to secure the draw.

From an outside perspective, this match was an intense and skilful battle which sums very well why this competition has the potential to be extremely close, from start to finish. With that being said, the Nr4 will certainly share many regrets looking back at that match. If a draw against the 5e can be considered a strong performance on their side, they had things under control and yet didn't manage to not give-up a strong lead in the late part of that encounter. From a 5-2 situation where they could have denied the 5e any single point in their first match, they were unable to prevent that comeback and will certainly not be fully satisfied with these two points taken in the first week.
Netherless, the counter-performance of this week is to be attributed to the 5e Hussards. In a match where they were considered as the favourites, yes from a small margin, but favourites still, they showed a lot of flaws in their gameplay and have a lot of stuff to work on if they still intend to be a strong contender in this CCL.
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Deadlines
Scheduling: 24.01.19 | Match: 27.01.19

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Match Date: 25.01.19 Time: 21:00 CET | Referee: Wüstenkrieger
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Match Date: 27.01.19 Time: 20:00 CET | Referee: Napoléon
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Match Date: 27.01.19 Time: 20:30 CET | Referee: Tardet
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The Cavalry Champions League started last week with our height regiments taking their first footings into the competition.

The 11e Régiment de Hussard, lead by Lindblom and considered as a strong contender for the title had a tough first match-up as they took on the French heavies from the 1er Régiment de Cuirassiers in the opening match of the CCL. After a flying start which saw them taking a 3-0 lead without many answers from their opponents, the 1erRC managed to grab one round, only to see the 11e striking two back to back, securing the draw and offering themselves a four round lead quite easily. From that point forward, many could have expected the 1erRC to collapse however the French and Poles managed to gather themselves, took advantage from their slow-paced play-style and with lots of patience, managed to crawl back and reduce the 11e's lead to one little round only, 5-4.

After nearly two hours of intense plays, it took a lot of composure from both teams to not crumble under pressure and in what would be a highly contested final round, the 11e managed to secure a slim victory, mostly thanks to an amazing Shadey who prevented a 1v2 clutch to go in the favour of the 1erRC; in the very last moment of the encounter. Netherveless, the 1erRC showed a strong resilience for their first match of the CCL and despite not being able to get the draw, they fully deserve that defensive bonus and send a clear message to their future opponent. On the 11e's side, they managed to avoid getting upset in their first match and despite the 1erRC's come back, they can still be happy as they have gained four important points against an opponent which is likely to cause troubles to many of other top regiments of the CCL.

The three remaining matches of the first week were all played on Sunday and as expected, two of them ended up being extremely one-sided matches. The 4e was simply too much to handle for the 2Lr and despite a strong showing in numbers from the 16e/KGL alliance, they didn't manage to find a gap in the Nr6's armour. With that being said, it is only the first matches and both the 16e and the 2Lr will have plenty of occasions to prove their worth later in the tournament.

The last match of this first week was a completely different story, however, as the Nr4 and the 5e offered to our viewers a nail-biting series which took place on all ten rounds of the match. It all started with the Nr4 making one hell of a strong statement in taking the first two rounds quite convincingly, making the 5e doubt themselves very early on. The Frenchmen under Exofrance's leadership didn't give up and manage to grab one back but in a similar fashion to the 11e vs 1erRC's match, the Nr4 was simply too strong and despite the 5e gaining the numerical advantage in several rounds, they were unable to convert these advantages into actual rounds. As the Nr4 reached five rounds, the 5e was only sitting on two and the Frenchmen saw themselves with their backs against the wall, with no more room for mistakes. Fortunately for them, it was at this moment that they seemed to wake-up as a whole and as they were continually gaining the numerical advantage, they did not let these rounds slip away from them and managed to secure the draw.

From an outside perspective, this match was an intense and skilful battle which sums very well why this competition has the potential to be extremely close, from start to finish. With that being said, the Nr4 will certainly share any regrets looking back at that match. If a draw against the 5e can be considered a strong performance on their side, they had things under control and yet didn't manage to not give-up a strong lead in the late part of that encounter. From a 5-2 situation where they could have denied the 5e any single point in their first match, they were unable to prevent that comeback and will certainly not be fully satisfied with these two points taken in the first week.
Netherless, the counter-performance of this week is to be attributed to the 5e Hussards. In a match where they were considered as the favourites, yes from a small margin, but favourites still, they showed a lot of flaws in their gameplay and have a lot of stuff to work on if they still intend to be a strong contender in this CCL.
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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Goodest on January 22, 2019, 08:52:01 pm
Match: 2. Leib- Regiment - Nr6
Date & Hour: 27.01.19 - 19:00pm GMT
Referee: Napo
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 23, 2019, 09:27:52 pm
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The Cavalry Champions League started last week with our height regiments taking their first footings into the competition.

The 11e Régiment de Hussard, lead by Lindblom and considered as a strong contender for the title had a tough first match-up as they took on the French heavies from the 1er Régiment de Cuirassiers in the opening match of the CCL. After a flying start which saw them taking a 3-0 lead without many answers from their opponents, the 1erRC managed to grab one round, only to see the 11e striking two back to back, securing the draw and offering themselves a four round lead quite easily. From that point forward, many could have expected the 1erRC to collapse however the French and Poles managed to gather themselves, took advantage from their slow-paced play-style and with lots of patience, managed to crawl back and reduce the 11e's lead to one little round only, 5-4.

After nearly two hours of intense plays, it took a lot of composure from both teams to not crumble under pressure and in what would be a highly contested final round, the 11e managed to secure a slim victory, mostly thanks to an amazing Shadey who prevented a 1v2 clutch to go in the favour of the 1erRC; in the very last moment of the encounter. Netherveless, the 1erRC showed a strong resilience for their first match of the CCL and despite not being able to get the draw, they fully deserve that defensive bonus and send a clear message to their future opponent. On the 11e's side, they managed to avoid getting upset in their first match and despite the 1erRC's come back, they can still be happy as they have gained four important points against an opponent which is likely to cause troubles to many of other top regiments of the CCL.

The three remaining matches of the first week were all played on Sunday and as expected, two of them ended up being extremely one-sided matches. The 4e was simply too much to handle for the 2Lr and despite a strong showing in numbers from the 16e/KGL alliance, they didn't manage to find a gap in the Nr6's armour. With that being said, it is only the first matches and both the 16e and the 2Lr will have plenty of occasions to prove their worth later in the tournament.

The last match of this first week was a completely different story however, as the Nr4 and the 5e offered to our viewers a nail-biting series which took place on all ten rounds of the match. It all started with the Nr4 making one hell of a strong statement in taking the first two rounds quite convincingly, making the 5e doubt themselves very early on. The Frenchmen under Exofrance's leadership didn't give up and manage to grab one back but in a similar fashion to the 11e vs 1erRC's match, the Nr4 was simply too strong and despite the 5e gaining the numerical advantage in several rounds, they were unable to convert these advantages into actual rounds. As the Nr4 reached five rounds, the 5e was only sitting on two and the Frenchmen saw themselves with their backs against the wall, with no more room for mistakes. Fortunately for them, it was at this moment that they seemed to wake-up as a whole and as they were continually gaining the numerical advantage, they did not let these rounds slip away from them and managed to secure the draw.

From an outside perspective, this match was an intense and skilful battle which sums very well why this competition has the potential to be extremely close, from start to finish. With that being said, the Nr4 will certainly share many regrets looking back at that match. If a draw against the 5e can be considered a strong performance on their side, they had things under control and yet didn't manage to not give-up a strong lead in the late part of that encounter. From a 5-2 situation where they could have denied the 5e any single point in their first match, they were unable to prevent that comeback and will certainly not be fully satisfied with these two points taken in the first week.
Netherless, the counter-performance of this week is to be attributed to the 5e Hussards. In a match where they were considered as the favourites, yes from a small margin, but favourites still, they showed a lot of flaws in their gameplay and have a lot of stuff to work on if they still intend to be a strong contender in this CCL.


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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 23, 2019, 09:30:11 pm
For those who want to have a quick recap of the important matches of the CCL, Sharkie is doing an amazing job at covering as many as possible and usually post them just after the matches have been played.

Go check the NW Cavalry Community (https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NWCavC#announcements) steam group in order to check his stuff. Many thanks to him for taking the time to do this!

The weekly preview should be posted tomorrow and we have many other contents coming-up next so stay tuned!
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Treiz35 on January 23, 2019, 10:30:05 pm
Match: 11e vs 5e
Date & Hour: 26.01.19 - 20:30 CET
Referee: Dragonking
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: ~Felix~ on January 24, 2019, 10:17:24 pm
Match: Nummerfia vs 1erRC
Date & Hour: 25.01.19 - 21:00 CET
Referee: Wüstenkrieger

Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 25, 2019, 01:22:28 am
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For this second week of the CCL, the Nr6 and 4e will be both trading their opponents. In a similar fashion to last week, it's hard to see an upset from the 16e/KGL or the 2Lr nonetheless, both regiments will certainly have their heart set on doing better than last week. On the 2Lr side, the German derby against the Nr6 will certainly motivate their national pride, whereas, for the 16e/KGL, I will be intrigued to see if they can repeat their performance against the Nr6 and make some rounds come close against the 4e. No matter what, it's worth noting that these early match-ups are fairly unbalanced and the 2Lr and 16e/KGL's chances to perform in this competition shouldn't be judged on the back of these two matches.

The first match of this week will once again feature the 1erRC this Friday, which will be opposed to the Nr4. Both regiments have shown good promises in their opening match and this encounter should provide for some intense and back and forth actions. The Nr4 will have to summon their patience against the French heavies, especially if they are given an early lead once more, as the 1erRC proved they are quite difficult to deal with in the late instance of the match. On their side, the 1erRC will be certainly looking for more than a simple defensive bonus, like the one they got in the first week against the 11e and this match will be the perfect occasion for them to gain some momentum by defeating an opponent of a similar calibre.

Then on Saturday, the 11e will take on the Frenchmen from the 5e. After their complicated and long match against the 1erRC in which they were put in difficulties but eventually survived that challenge, the 11e will be looking at crushing the 5e's souls in this second week. If this isn't going to be a walk in the park by any mean for the European mixture, the 11e has proven that they can keep things under control even in intense scenarios and will be logically going as the favourite in that match-up. For the 5e members, they will have to remain as composed as possible and rely on their team play to defeat the heavy hitters of the 11e. Such teamplay wasn't necessarily there last week but the 5e is the type of regiment capable to learn a lot from their mistakes and there is no doubt that they will have done their homework coming against their opponent.


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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: QuinnML on January 25, 2019, 04:44:28 am
Match: 16e-KGL vs 4e
Date & Hour: 27.01.19 - 19:30pmGMT
Referee: Need one
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on January 25, 2019, 11:57:11 pm
Husaren-Regiment Nr4 4 - 6 1er Regiment de Cuirassiers

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I must say this game as referee was disappointing from both teams. Both teams were unfriendly to each other, the chat was spammed, sometimes you couldnt even read if the regiments were ready.
To the 1erRC I want to say, I got many complaints about wallhugging, this week and last week, and mostly I did not agree with those complaints, which I did tell the people complaining, but I must say, moving to the wall in the beginning of the rounds, and then moving the wall along half a circle around the map, is absolutly unnecessary, bringing no advantage at all, just delaying time and provoking the other team and the referee.
I would suggest to not do that anymore, so the referee has it more easy to decide in your interest, and to defend his decission against other teams.

However, I am still available of course to both regiments as future referee if they wish so and I hope that no offense is taken from my quite harsh words and that they help both regiments in the future tournament.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Rybon on January 25, 2019, 11:57:48 pm
1erRC 6-4 Nr4, It was the longest match I have ever played...
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: DragonKing on January 26, 2019, 12:04:58 am
1erRC 6-4 Nr4, It was the longest match I have ever played...
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES ! i am dead now
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Squall on January 26, 2019, 12:39:42 am
Husaren-Regiment Nr4 4 - 6 1er Regiment de Cuirassiers

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I must say this game as referee was disappointing from both teams. Both teams were unfriendly to each other, the chat was spammed, sometimes you couldnt even read if the regiments were ready.
To the 1erRC I want to say, I got many complaints about wallhugging, this week and last week, and mostly I did not agree with those complaints, which I did tell the people complaining, but I must say, moving to the wall in the beginning of the rounds, and then moving the wall along half a circle around the map, is absolutly unnecessary, bringing no advantage at all, just delaying time and provoking the other team and the referee.
I would suggest to not do that anymore, so the referee has it more easy to decide in your interest, and to defend his decission against other teams.

However, I am still available of course to both regiments as future referee if they wish so and I hope that no offense is taken from my quite harsh words and that they help both regiments in the future tournament.


As a leader, I am extremely disappointed with the behavior of some players, especially the leader of the Nr4 who behaves like a child in this competition, and who instead of alleviating the situation, continues to provoke and incite his own regiment to continue to troll, throughout the match, it is clear that for me, I do not wish to re-match with this behavior, I had to ask myself to ask the referee to intervene, which leaves the freedom to some players to pollute the Global chat, so I have to play, leader my team and in addition ask the referee to act, it's for me big anything, disappointed for me the rules have not was respected, some people deserve sanctions or either the rules and the penalties, are there only to make pretty.

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En tant que leader, je suis extrêmement déçu du comportement de certains joueurs et notamment du leader du Nr4 qui se comporte comme un enfant dans cette compétition, et qui au lieu d'alléger la situation, continue de provoquer et d'inciter son propre régiment à continuer de troll, tout au long du match, il est clair que pour moi, je ne souhaite pas re-match avec ce comportement, j'ai dû demander moi-même demander à l'arbitre d'intervenir, qui laisse la liberté à certains joueurs de polluer le Globale tchat, donc je dois jouer, leader mon équipe et en plus demander à l'arbitre d'agir, c'est pour moi du grand n'importe quoi, déçu pour moi les règles n'ont pas était respecté, certaines personnes mérite des sanctions ou soit les regles et les sanctions, sont là que pour faire jolie.
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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Thorvic on January 26, 2019, 01:58:09 am
Husaren-Regiment Nr4 4 - 6 1er Regiment de Cuirassiers

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I must say this game as referee was disappointing from both teams. Both teams were unfriendly to each other, the chat was spammed, sometimes you couldnt even read if the regiments were ready.
To the 1erRC I want to say, I got many complaints about wallhugging, this week and last week, and mostly I did not agree with those complaints, which I did tell the people complaining, but I must say, moving to the wall in the beginning of the rounds, and then moving the wall along half a circle around the map, is absolutly unnecessary, bringing no advantage at all, just delaying time and provoking the other team and the referee.
I would suggest to not do that anymore, so the referee has it more easy to decide in your interest, and to defend his decission against other teams.

However, I am still available of course to both regiments as future referee if they wish so and I hope that no offense is taken from my quite harsh words and that they help both regiments in the future tournament.

With all the respect we all have towards you Kanade, your point is slightly mistaken. Let's be honest, moving alongside the bordermap with a large gap between the formation and the invisible wall can't be called "wallhugging". It's even more true when we are not in a combat stance.
We didn't complain -at any moment- when hussars just avoided the fights (which in some ways can trully be seen as delaying as well, whether you like to ear it or not), while on the other hand, hussar players keep being absolutely mad when some of us are moving on the map by crossing some trees on our way.
Since our regiment was founded, we always had to suffer criticisms from the hussar community when they start to get bothered about our unconventional playstyle... Nothing new there, and so it happens for almost every heavy cavalry regiment in the exact same way.
Didn't you think at any moment that heavies couldn't be held responsible for round length ? How do you want us to get a round ended quickly when we must be a very large group to get a slight chance to even catch one hussar ? You saw it yourself many times in our previous matches : a heavy formation can be totally wiped within a few seconds by an efficient hussar charge, while the opposite takes an eternity due to the huge speed gap between our cows (heavy horses) and their motorbikes (light horses). We don't have the easy role, so don't put the responsibility on us on that matter, please.

About the behaviour issues, you must not have paid attention. Nr4 members were trolling/flooding the global chat everytime until you've been told by Squall to act as you were intended to act, while we -for the most part- remained silent during the whole match. And you dare to charge us about being guilty of the bad sportsmanship ? You must be kiddin.

Great game from 1erRC, deserved loss for Nr4 : that's what you get for being toxic, enjoy your defensive point, take care.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on January 26, 2019, 02:43:37 am
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Husaren-Regiment Nr4 4 - 6 1er Regiment de Cuirassiers

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I must say this game as referee was disappointing from both teams. Both teams were unfriendly to each other, the chat was spammed, sometimes you couldnt even read if the regiments were ready.
To the 1erRC I want to say, I got many complaints about wallhugging, this week and last week, and mostly I did not agree with those complaints, which I did tell the people complaining, but I must say, moving to the wall in the beginning of the rounds, and then moving the wall along half a circle around the map, is absolutly unnecessary, bringing no advantage at all, just delaying time and provoking the other team and the referee.
I would suggest to not do that anymore, so the referee has it more easy to decide in your interest, and to defend his decission against other teams.

However, I am still available of course to both regiments as future referee if they wish so and I hope that no offense is taken from my quite harsh words and that they help both regiments in the future tournament.

With all the respect we all have towards you Kanade, your point is slightly mistaken. Let's be honest, moving alongside the bordermap with a large gap between the formation and the invisible wall can't be called "wallhugging". It's even more true when we are not in a combat stance.
We didn't complain -at any moment- when hussars just avoided the fights (which in some ways can trully be seen as delaying as well, whether you like to ear it or not), while on the other hand, hussar players keep being absolutely mad when some of us are moving on the map by crossing some trees on our way.
Since our regiment was founded, we always had to suffer criticisms from the hussar community when they start to get bothered about our unconventional playstyle... Nothing new there, and so it happens for almost every heavy cavalry regiment in the exact same way.
Didn't you think at any moment that heavies couldn't be held responsible for round length ? How do you want us to get a round ended quickly when we must be a very large group to get a slight chance to even catch one hussar ? You saw it yourself many times in our previous matches : a heavy formation can be totally wiped within a few seconds by an efficient hussar charge, while the opposite takes an eternity due to the huge speed gap between our cows (heavy horses) and their motorbikes (light horses). We don't have the easy role, so don't put the responsibility on us on that matter, please.

About the behaviour issues, you must not have paid attention. Nr4 members were trolling/flooding the global chat everytime until you've been told by Squall to act as you were intended to act, while we -for the most part- remained silent during the whole match. And you dare to charge us about being guilty of the bad sportsmanship ? You must be kiddin.

Great game from 1erRC, deserved loss for Nr4 : that's what you get for being toxic, enjoy your defensive point, take care.
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You might have misunderstood me.
I did not blame you for the long rounds. Also I did not claim, that you would wallhugg, I even wrote, that I do tell everyone who complains, that I do not think that is wallhugging.
I know the criticism very well, you might remember that I lead heavy cavalry in the 4th season of the CNWL.
I am on your side here, I only criticised the beginning of each round, as I do not understand why you do what you do there and what´s the purpose/advantage. And in the end it does make it more difficult for the referee to defend you, but we do defend you anyway.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2019, 11:57:16 am
I will only address the issue about toxicity because the 'map borders playstyle' is a whole other story and I don't have that much time at work since I am at work. (There goes my lunch break btw)

There is no denying that last night was a shitshow in many regards. The match length was unnecessarily long and the starting time rather late, which lead to the match ending around midnight, which isn't necessarily something we want to have for the CCL. More importantly, the way the match was played contributed to exacerbating the tensions between both regiment, leading to some questionable behaviours on both sides.

I am not going to point fingers at both regiment leaders, telling them which side started or which side did worse; it would be pointless and childish and it is fairly obvious both (sides) are at fault anyway. I would just like to clarify that concerning the referring, Kanade dealt with the situation to the best of his abilities. I was there during the whole match, and even though I must admit I might have taken a few breaks / did something else at the same time, I generally had a fair grasp of what happened on the server. There is also a stream which should give people a fair amount of insights about the match, would they be bothered to go through three hours of gameplay.

There was a lot of all chat spam, once again from each side, which had been going on since Round 1. Mostly it was players from both regiments talking to each other, sometimes in their own native language. For a good part of the match, this spam appeared as friendly from the referee/administration point of view and didn't seem to bother anyone. It is only in the late part of the encounter that this spam turned into actual toxicity.

Yes, there is indeed a rule about players behaviours. But I will say state it straight that while we intend to have a positive atmosphere on the server, online competitions can sometimes turn people into a worse version of themselves and we simply cannot ban players for a border-line (no bad pun intended) behaviour. Especially when a good part of each regiment is 'slightly' going at each other, but without resulting to insults or hateful speech. Maybe Kanade was a bit slow to react, nonetheless, he took actions as soon as you requested it. I insist on this, despite some people being a bit difficult last night, there wasn't an excessively toxic behaviour from someone last night, except maybe from Woj. We talked with Squall on steam about it and I figured out that it wasn't worth banning Woj during the match but that doesn't mean sanctions won't be taken, against him, or anyone else for that matter and this regardless of the seriousness of their actions.

Edit: In order to avoid this escalation of unneeded events such as last night, we could also very well prevent the use of all-chat, as some competitions did some years ago. But we feel the tournament is already restrictive enough in certain areas so that we do need to come to such extremity. It is both the referee and leaders' job to keep their players under control during the match.

If needs be, I will go through the three hours of recording to figure out most of it, but for now, I'd appreciate if we can leave it here.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Squall on January 26, 2019, 01:47:35 pm
I do not agree with you Tardet, already firstly even as a leader, you can not have everything under your control and especially when you do spam provokes non-stop humanly, even if you have been ordered not to not answer, you get carried away by the emotions and inevitably, one answers, now that you say, I quote:
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I am not going to point fingers at both regiment leaders, telling them which side started or which side did worse; it would be pointless and childish and it is fairly obvious both are at fault anyway.

well I find it insulting and do not adhere to your reasoning, because you can see the video 300,000 times if you want and I have not at any time provoked, I even rather tried to calm the game, now when you ace of provocation written on the global chat and in addition to the troll causes, that is to say that when you have enemies who come early in the game, without their weapon to make you arms of honor constantly, Oh yes .... I call it non-respect and completely immature in a competitive context.

1.Provocation and useless troll, after it cries, because it is his hurry to finish the match, there, we see that at this moment, they are not in a hurry
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2.the answer is clear ....
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3.Again troll...
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For frenchies translate
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Je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi Tardet, déjà premièrement même en tant que leader, tu peux pas tout avoir sous ton contrôle et surtout quand tu te fais spam provoque non-stop humainement, même si tu as reçu l'ordre de ne pas répondre, tu te laisses emporter par les émotions et forcément, on répond, maintenant que tu dises, je cite :
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Je ne vais pas pointer du doigt les chefs des deux régiments, leur dire quel camp a commencé ou quel camp a fait pire; ce serait inutile et puéril et il est assez évident que les deux sont en faute de toute façon.
bah clairement je trouve ça insultant et n'adhère pas à ton raisonnement, car tu peux voir la vidéo 300.000 fois si tu veux et je n'ai à aucun moment provoqué, j'ai même plutôt essayé de calmer le jeu, maintenant quand tu as de la provoque écrit et en plus du troll provoque, c'est-à-dire que quand tu as des ennemis qui viennent en début de match, sans leur arme pour te faire des bras d'honneur sans cesse, bah oui.... Moi j'appelle ça du non-respect et complétement immature dans un contexte de compétition
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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Thorvic on January 26, 2019, 02:19:34 pm
Well, mistakes were made on both sides, I can't deny it. But we want you to know that 1erRC officers never stopped asking our members to do not answer back, and we harshly called to order those who didn't respect our demands. Some players (including Woj) arrived quite late, and weren't aware of our orders regarding global chat and behavior in general, and actions have been taken on our side right away so the match could end in a better spirit.

Nonetheless, the recordings may give you an hint to help you establishing responsibilities, and you'll realize that most of the provocation in global chat can be charged to Nr4 members.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2019, 05:06:16 pm
I just clarified some points of my message with Squall on TS. I obviously didn't mean to imply that regimental leaders must have control over everything happening on the server and on each one of their members. I led regiments myself, I know the struggle of having to lead and play at the same time but I simply tried to emphasise that the responsibility of making sure players behave correctly is shared by both the referees and the regiment leaders. Moreover, the regiment leaders have officers under their orders to help them in that task.

I also insist (and maybe it was left unclear in my previous post) that while both sides are undoubtedly at fault, that doesn't mean they necessarily share equal responsibilities. I will go through the logs/stream again as soon as possible and try to clarify that. If warnings/punishments have to be handed out, we'll be doing the necessary amount of research to make sure the decisions given is fair and rational.

I also had a discussion with Felix on steam where we clarified a few points, including how regiment leaders are supposed to be giving the example to their members, regardless of what happens on the server.

As a final note on that particular subject, I had like to remember everyone that under the behaviour rules, we added this:

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(3) While the Cavalry Champions League administration intends to condemn the aforementioned behaviours, we would also like to remind our participants that they are capable of muting - in-game, on the forums and on steam - the people who could behave in a way which may offend them, but isn't necessarily punishable by the tournament administration.

Once again, we remind everyone of the fact that different people mean several different interpretations of what could come off as 'immature' or 'offensive'. Being edgy/cocky isn't always gonna be a punishable behaviour according to the rules but muting the person in question will avoid the situation to escalate unnecessarily in most cases.



This is obviously only one part of the problem observed last night, and what could be considered as the 'consequences'; resulting from the frustration shared by both sides. We will also discuss the other issues among our staff to figure out what we can do to avoid similar situations, moving forward.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2019, 08:34:39 pm
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As the 5e Hussards is about to face the 11e Hussards in tonight's confrontation, we asked Napoléon, Sous-Lieutenant in 5e, to talk us about his regiment, their past results in previous competitions, and more importantly, their preparation coming into this CCL.

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We are preparing for quite some time for the different competitive events so the CCL bring a welcoming environment for all the practices 1v1s we have done for a few months. All this preparation work helped the regiment practising in order to bring the best of the 5e on the battlefield. Everyone is taking part in this training process, such as going on the cav-gf on a regular basis or attending training, with the constant goal for everyone being to improve and playing together in order to create automatism and getting used to your teammates’ playstyles.

We know, as we witnessed it during our last matches, that it's not over till its over and that this mentality will be applicable for every match of the competition. Obviously, winning the CCL would be a good new for the regiment and a welcoming reward for all the work done but it's not an objective which we are being stubborn about and no matter what, we’ll have to give the best of ourselves and try to be as high as possible in the final ranking.

You started the tournament with a complicated match against the Nr4. During this encounter, what are things which worked and these which didn’t?

Indeed, it was complicated, but not everything is to be put to waste, we analyzed our mistakes and tried to fix it during our next training, that being the force-runs taking way too long and for a mixed result or some mistakes which result in more of a wrong in-game vision, costing the life of one or several hussars, with the ultimate goal being as prepared for the next match as possible. With that being said, when we do not commit mistakes and survive for a longer time, our team play helped us isolating certain elements in our opponent's formation and take the numerical advantage by eliminating them, which obviously helps us winning the round.

It is also important to see things on the bright side as well, we have this capacity to come-back in the match despite a large score deficit and we could have taken a large defeat for our opening match. Now, we have to make sure this doesn’t become a habit, as it is always best to win your games without frightening yourself.


You are facing the 11e this week. How are you feeling for this match which is likely going to be difficult?

It is true that this match is going to be important, but every matches sort of is for this CCL. We’ll have to make sure not to commit the same mistakes we made against the Nr4, else the score could be way more important for the 11e, same as it could have been last week. We will have, from the first to last round, to hold own our own, but I have trust in our group, we are capable to get a good result against them. It will be difficult, but far from impossible.

The last season of the CNWL was a bit disappointing for the 5e and the Hussars Cup could have also left some regrets for your regiment. What is, in your opinion, the keys to bring back the 5e Hussards at the very top of the cavalry competitive scene and contest the title to the other favourites of this competition?

The last season of the CNWL was clearly a total counter-performance, it was a bit of a slap in the face for a regiment which was used to podiums during several years, but we were just getting out of a really long break for almost a year, we had lost players, some new faces had arrived and everything was to be rebuilt. I don’t think we were ready at this moment, especially as the average level of other regiments had clearly been increasing since then, which is worth to be mentioned as a really good thing. The Hussars Cup followed very quickly, as we were still trying to rebuild the regiment. The new players helped a lot at that time, and it was a turning point for the 5e as these new guys ended-up gaining a lot from this experience, strengthening their position alongside the core of the 5e composed of the many veterans still playing under our flag.

This new cohesion could be felt during the 2Lr 5v5 Tournament where we started with two teams of arguably similar strength, with once again, the idea of training together and improving with this small group. This strategy proved its worth as both our teams finished in the Top 4; which is still a very decent performance considering the level of the other participants. This experience with these two small groups ended-up benefiting the regiment as a whole since it helped us witnessing the rise of some of our very new players and at the same time, made our overall synergy even better than before.

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The 5e Hussard had to win several close rounds in order to come back against the Husaren Nr4.

All of this makes me feel that the main key for the 5e’s victory will lay in this new generation of players (playing in the 5e for several months now), as we cannot rely solely on our individualities. The whole regiment has to play together and aim in the same direction. For the rest, we’ll have to continue training to the different cavalry tactics, keep our game vision as high as possible and survive after each match in order to progress in the competition rankings, which is what every good cavalryman should be aiming at.

Thanks a lot for this interview Napoléon! We give you the opportunity to conclude this interview and wish you good luck in this competition!

Thanks a lot, I wish good luck to every regiment taking part in this competition, a competition which looks like rather promising given the first week.

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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: QuinnML on January 26, 2019, 09:49:15 pm
Match went almost exactly as I predicted (i guessed 7-3), wp 5e and 11e
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: DragonKing on January 26, 2019, 09:53:55 pm
11eHuss 2 - 8 5eHuss
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Nice match, gg both teams
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Yvrul on January 26, 2019, 10:02:10 pm
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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2019, 10:18:23 pm
While the match certainly doesn't reflect the quality of the 11e, the 5e played his best NW in a long time tonight and it's really refreshing. Good luck to our opponents for the rest of the competition.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Shadey on January 26, 2019, 10:54:25 pm
While the match certainly doesn't reflect the quality of the 11e, the 5e played his best NW in a long time tonight and it's really refreshing. Good luck to our opponents for the rest of the competition.

Couldn't agree more, you guys played great tonight.

GG 5e, see you in our next match  :P

Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 27, 2019, 12:02:10 am
Oh and many thanks to Dragonking for being our referee, and to Squall, Thorvic and Sukesa who managed to set-up a French stream for tonight's match in very short timing. It's on the media thread, if you haven't watched it yet, I suggest you go give it a look. Even if you don't understand everything, I believe there is a clutch worth-watching  8)
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Squall on January 27, 2019, 12:19:12 am
No problem, it was a pleasure to stream a great match with two big regiments with Thorvic and Sukesa, we hope the community to appreciate, the goal being to benefit all people interested in the CDC and also to to allow each regiment, depending on the possibilities of having their match in stream, to work their mistake and better bounce or even get to know their next opponent..
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Aucun problème, c'était un plaisir de stream un grand match avec deux grands régiments avec de Thorvic et Sukesa, nous espérons que la communauté à apprécier, l'objectif étant de faire profiter à toutes les personnes intéressé par la CCL et aussi de pouvoir permettre que chaque régiment, selon les possibilités d'avoir leur match en stream, afin de travailler leur erreur et de mieux rebondir ou même d'apprendre à connaître son prochain adversaire.
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Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Sukesa on January 27, 2019, 12:56:59 am
Really liked the interview format ! impressive Tardet.

Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 27, 2019, 07:22:49 pm
Match: 16e-KGL vs 4e
Date & Hour: 27.01.19 - 19:30pmGMT
Referee: Tardet


I will be casting 4e vs 16e tonight with Syrcrim and will take over as referee the match by the same occasion.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: DragonKing on January 27, 2019, 09:38:09 pm
Really liked the interview format ! impressive Tardet.
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Napoléon on January 27, 2019, 09:51:58 pm
2. Leib-Regiment 1 - 9 Husaren-Regiment Nr.6

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Well played to both teams, it was a match without issue, but I think the troll at the end of the last round could have been avoided in order to respect your opponent. I did let the round go because assuming the Nr6 would lose it, it would be due to their own fault and its not my business but from my perspective, its best to not show that kind of attitude which could be taken badly by your opponents. Good luck for your next matches!
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Tardet on January 27, 2019, 09:58:41 pm
4e Régiment de Hussards 9 vs 1 16e Régiment de Hussards

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No issue on that match well played from both sides and good luck for the rest of the competition!
Title: Re: [CCL] League Stage - Week 2
Post by: Exofrance on January 27, 2019, 10:32:22 pm
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