Putting Maharbaal at the same p as Stark in All-Time Melee Listi guess it's all about winning
okay
edit: OH WAIT HE'S EVEN HIGHER LMAO
If it's about winning then my spectate skills should be rated as 90 or something, damn good All-Stars daysPutting Maharbaal at the same p as Stark in All-Time Melee Listi guess it's all about winning
okay
edit: OH WAIT HE'S EVEN HIGHER LMAO
I mean its his opinion so sure whatever I guess ofc everyone will moan and point out all the problems with the list but this list should be considered to be at least interesting to see extazz's opinions on other players imo.extazz , haze and lebrave opinions *
u had one already and lostSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/vtY9YvI.png)[close]
looks like an invitation to me
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I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.Wait I thought this thread is a meme.
Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.
I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.
Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?
Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.
Other than that seems reasonable to me.
+1I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.Wait I thought this thread is a meme.
Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.
I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.
Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?
Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.
Other than that seems reasonable to me.
So many players missing and how can someone that didnt even play the game for the most of the time make an all time list lol. Make a current list and put yourself up there but don't be such an arrogant disrespectful lunatic. Only people that can make a decent all time melee list are Herishey, Maurice, ect, basically people that played the same for most of the time after melee changes in 2012, I think it was.
+1I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.Wait I thought this thread is a meme.
Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.
I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.
Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?
Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.
Other than that seems reasonable to me.
So many players missing and how can someone that didnt even play the game for the most of the time make an all time list lol. Make a current list and put yourself up there but don't be such an arrogant disrespectful lunatic. Only people that can make a decent all time melee list are Herishey, Maurice, ect, basically people that played the same for most of the time after melee changes in 2012, I think it was.
If you make an alltime list, you should atleast played NW since release in order to capture the whole span of the top players. I didn't see Extaz or Haze in any important team back in 2012 or 2013.
I did, guess I should be 99. What Nosswill means is other than you LeBrave, Haze wasn't active in competitive events back then so it's hard for him to judge some of these players. :)
[...]Yeah the German legend and one of the best international players who ever touched this game: DarkCore aka. "The German Bulldozer", "The Coke"
There is many other players that I didnt mention.
tbh putting yourself and drake above stark, ledger etc is pretty much bullshit. no front extazz but i am pretty sure most of them could take you in duels as long as they dont go in for your silly s keying. getting inpatient because someone else is s keying just to bait has less to do with skill but with nerves. just my opinion. in terms of gfs i can just state that stark is better than both of you, saw him in 66th and now in 91st, always top, no matter with whom hes playing, what i cant really tell about you two.. at least make it realistic and less arrogant, ikr you achieved much with the french team and you both are outstanding players, but belittling others like that is indeed pretty arrogant.Idk , i play for 4 years nw competitive scene and no one beat me in 1v1 except Drake :)
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.I totally agree of what you said.
Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was new it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from 2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...
Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.
Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from 2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...
Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
In 2015 Me and Haze beat Evanovic and Eddie in 2v2 tournament.I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.
Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from 2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...
Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...SpoilerI think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.
Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game
For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.[close]
im at 10% rnIn 2015 Me and Haze beat Evanovic and Eddie in 2v2 tournament.I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.
Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from 2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...
Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...SpoilerI think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.
Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game
For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.[close]
But in 2015 we had just 35% of our best level.
Don't need conclusion.
I just don't get how a legend player like Herishey can suck so bad and feed every gf??Hello mr dies to Vol every tournament.
And then in 2016 TFFO beat FrenchTouch 10-1 in a tournament final, as well as beating All Stars later the same year 7-3 in the final after your famous 'Record your loss' quote. I think it was 2016, may have been 2017.In 2015 Me and Haze beat Evanovic and Eddie and 2v2 tournament.I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.
Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from 2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...
Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...SpoilerI think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.
Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game
For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.[close]
But in 2015 we had just 35% of our best level.
Don't need conclusion.
That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.
Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from 2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...
Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game
For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
Yeah a M-NWWC, where FRA had possibly their strongest team and we had basically none of ours. Evan only came for the last round. fatkoala had gone inactive at this point meaning only Axiom and I were active from the team that won the NWWC that same year. Oh and the year before that, oh wait and the year before that. :)I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
Yeah a M-NWWC, where FRA had possibly their strongest team and we had basically none of ours. Evan only came for the last round. fatkoala had gone inactive at this point meaning only Axiom and I were active from the team that won the NWWC that same year. Oh and the year before that, oh wait and the year before that. :)I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
Not as bad as GB when it was run by price and had hursty and hepty in starting 8Not as bad as having hertz in the 14 man roster
Lebrave sucksthe voa
Where is fungus
Yeah extaz because back in 2015 you probably didn't invest that much time in the game like you did in 2016-2017, but it is acutally funny that your capabilities were on 35%. Did you calculate that? :PIf he was at 35% of the skill in 2015 that would mean he just about learned how to block and how chamber is done.
Evan not Extreme??!!
Hokej and Fwuffy are fair to add I was thinking of them earlier but it depends if you are taking longevity into account. If it is I'd say they'd be 87-88.I need your opinion about the elite tier , do you think more players deserve to be in or consersely i should remove one or two players ?
But then I guess longevity isn't or Jackie & Harrier would be lower too.
88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?Didn't notice that, seems very questionable on an all time list imo. Maybe an 85-86.
Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..Sorry for my late replay, but I totally agree with you. I understand what you mean, but I was just reffering to this list and not in general. Of course players who started in 2012 and played three years are not automatically better than players who started in 2015 and are still playing, just because they started the game earlier. I think is just their reputation that makes people think that players back in the days are better compared to players nowadays.
Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..Sorry for my late replay, but I totally agree with you. I understand what you mean, but I was just reffering to this list and not in general. Of course players who started in 2012 and played three years are not automatically better than players who started in 2015 and are still playing, just because they started the game earlier. I think is just their reputation that makes people think that players back in the days are better compared to players nowadays.
By solely thinking about Jackie, I immediately remember his reputiation to be the best and so people are tending to put him higher in these lists.
But the only way to judge players are by tournament wins because all other criterias are just biased, but it is also quite hard to value a players impact in the team.
Yeah the only list I consider somewhat accurate in terms of tournament wins and of course the importance of these wins (I don't consider tournaments that were organized every week as important) is Ledgers list, but it is still very debatable.Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..Sorry for my late replay, but I totally agree with you. I understand what you mean, but I was just reffering to this list and not in general. Of course players who started in 2012 and played three years are not automatically better than players who started in 2015 and are still playing, just because they started the game earlier. I think is just their reputation that makes people think that players back in the days are better compared to players nowadays.
By solely thinking about Jackie, I immediately remember his reputiation to be the best and so people are tending to put him higher in these lists.
But the only way to judge players are by tournament wins because all other criterias are just biased, but it is also quite hard to value a players impact in the team.
Agreed. Besides most of these lists should remain as opinions rather than fact and shouldn't be considered to have any real accuracy.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
VOLUBLE IN ALL TIME MELEE LIST AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHe was top fragging for ENG, in the match versus FRA cmon :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
" I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.
I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
" I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.
I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
No you can't.
Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?
Just prove me with solids arguments why can't Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments why i can't be the first on this list.
PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".
You write like 300 words for nothing , wp lone." I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.
I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
No you can't.
Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?
Just prove me with solids arguments why can't Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments why i can't be the first on this list.
PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".
Your reply shows me that you may be good at nw but either your language or your iq is not half as high as your ranking points.
"Possibly could" is double subjunctive meaning I doubt it myself.
I'm not saying you can't do a list, I just say that I doubt the quality of this list due to the old players not really being comparable to you only by achievements. Nor by "Yes but we already did beat them" - that's very cool and I guess your parents are proud Aswell but you have no clue if they'd 7-0 you if it was they at their prime vs you at their prime. Your logic is only based on the fact that you won some stuff but please try to think a bit further. Ikr that your self esteem highly depends on such lists etc because otherwise no one would give a fucking shit about you anymore, but at least stay a bit on the ground.
I am not saying you can't be first, but isn't it ironic to put yourself 1st on a list you made? I just doubt that an Evan, Stark etc. (to just name few) really are worse.
Read this reply properly and activate your brain please.
You write like 300 words for nothing , wp lone." I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/That was 7-1 u herishitStark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.+Spoiler(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)[close]
little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.
I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
No you can't.
Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?
Just prove me with solids arguments why can't Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments why i can't be the first on this list.
PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".
Your reply shows me that you may be good at nw but either your language or your iq is not half as high as your ranking points.
"Possibly could" is double subjunctive meaning I doubt it myself.
I'm not saying you can't do a list, I just say that I doubt the quality of this list due to the old players not really being comparable to you only by achievements. Nor by "Yes but we already did beat them" - that's very cool and I guess your parents are proud Aswell but you have no clue if they'd 7-0 you if it was they at their prime vs you at their prime. Your logic is only based on the fact that you won some stuff but please try to think a bit further. Ikr that your self esteem highly depends on such lists etc because otherwise no one would give a fucking shit about you anymore, but at least stay a bit on the ground.
I am not saying you can't be first, but isn't it ironic to put yourself 1st on a list you made? I just doubt that an Evan, Stark etc. (to just name few) really are worse.
Read this reply properly and activate your brain please.
I ask you real arguments , you answer me "look your qi"
I ask you real arguments , you answer me "can't comparate with old players"
Now , i have a problem , i debating about all time list with someone on 4-5 years in nw did nothing.
You are not in my list and you defending your friends.
Little cuck.
88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
Well no one else was gonna put Extaz there. ::)We had criteria in this list , read it and come back.
Extazz You're stupid as fuck
give Dokletian 98yup would be accurate
A bit on the low side for the legendary top 10 Dokletian I say! This old one admires his humility. . . . .!give Dokletian 98yup would be accurate
what about wolpi / woplee ?Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
junge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*what about wolpi / woplee ?Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
Die ganzen Franzosen, vor allem extaz oder Haze gehören halt nicht nach ganz oben auf eine Alltime Liste. Aber naja, wenn man eine eigene Liste macht, dann muss man auch selber oben stehen :Pjunge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*what about wolpi / woplee ?Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
Fotin has small brain
NA has to help us!!Fuckin' medium brains.On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
Fotin has small brain
I want to make my own list now xD(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IncredibleOrganicBug-size_restricted.gif)
I got ya ezNA has to help us!!Fuckin' medium brains.On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.88 - Voluble ?????? I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?BUMP
Fotin has small brain
Die ganzen Franzosen, vor allem extaz oder Haze gehören halt nicht nach ganz oben auf eine Alltime Liste. Aber naja, wenn man eine eigene Liste macht, dann muss man auch selber oben stehen :Pjunge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*what about wolpi / woplee ?Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
Ja total :'(Die ganzen Franzosen, vor allem extaz oder Haze gehören halt nicht nach ganz oben auf eine Alltime Liste. Aber naja, wenn man eine eigene Liste macht, dann muss man auch selber oben stehen :Pjunge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*what about wolpi / woplee ?Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
Verrückt, weil du nicht da bist :)
I mean its his opinion so sure whatever I guess ofc everyone will moan and point out all the problems with the list but this list should be considered to be at least interesting to see extazz's opinions on other players imo.^^^^
i don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
Like when he won NWWC on a Frankfurt server, right? Or M. League. Quit being a fucking meme please.i don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
I didn't know having 10 to 18 ping was such a big difference?That’s why they always deny to play on german server.
i don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
facti don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
hahahahahahahaHAHhhashfahahahahhahahHAHHAHAHhahahaExtrem Tier :SpoilerCriteria : the players that have achieved by both exceptional duel and gf capacity total domination on NW aka the "grand chelem" (champion from 1v1 to 10v10, m-NWWC, NWWC) at same time.
Never to be liked, never to be equaled, controversial duo for most, they don't want to speak about themselve.
They have done it together
That's it.[close]96 - ∞
Drake and ExTaZz94Elite Tier :SpoilerCriteria : The players that showed exceptional gf capacity and for some duels aswell throughout long and consistent tournament runs, always being the top players of their team, no doubt.
They are the key people who were the head of their legendary teams, opening the path for generation of others top player and teams.[close]93 - 94
93-Eddie
Everyone who plays strictly on 10-20 ping is much worse with 40-50, fact. Same for you, Golden :'(i don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Do you suck your self off at night extazzz
If anything they got worse, Voluble is top fragging.I am always good vs frenchies idk why
Ryan is absolutely right about Extaz.Do you suck your self off at night extazzz
that's max1m, not extazz
Everyone who plays strictly on 10-20 ping is much worse with 40-50, fact. Same for you, Golden :'(i don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
P.S
“Top-list” is in need to be updated, especially after FT losing to ChimpZ 5-0 last March.Spoilerhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzgfIWbon4[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/9izDGNT.png)
No one said you are bad but as you yourself emphasized it makes the difference.Everyone who plays strictly on 10-20 ping is much worse with 40-50, fact. Same for you, Golden :'(i don't even know half of players of this listMost of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
P.S
“Top-list” is in need to be updated, especially after FT losing to ChimpZ 5-0 last March.Spoilerhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzgfIWbon4[close]
I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me :-*
imagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCPI dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me :-*
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.toxic.
Nock more like sock. Lmao l8r nerdI like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.
hahahahaha ure bad
just talking about ping m8 ??? max1m only understand this talk he has small brain like monkeyimagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCPI dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me :-*
Nock more like sock. Lmao l8r nerdI like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.
hahahahaha ure bad
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemes.ucoz.com%2F_nw%2F27%2F98086350.jpg&hash=8c556ec9566a2c089e3f7c5e63481845952fb01d)just talking about ping m8 ??? max1m only understand this talk he has small brain like monkeyimagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCPI dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me :-*
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemes.ucoz.com%2F_nw%2F27%2F98086350.jpg&hash=8c556ec9566a2c089e3f7c5e63481845952fb01d)just talking about ping m8 ??? max1m only understand this talk he has small brain like monkeyimagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCPI dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me :-*
Reviving THE undisputed melee list.(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
Time to get the palmares outReviving THE undisputed melee list.(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgiphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fmedia%2Frl0FOxdz7CcxO%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=c871f9af73c6b44c3aacdedb1fee86bfd3830b44)Time to get the palmares outReviving THE undisputed melee list.(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgiphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fmedia%2Frl0FOxdz7CcxO%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=c871f9af73c6b44c3aacdedb1fee86bfd3830b44)Time to get the palmares outReviving THE undisputed melee list.(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already