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Title: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 01:09:14 am
                                                                                                 
ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]



Extrem Tier :
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Criteria : the players that have achieved by both exceptional duel and gf capacity total domination on NW aka the "grand chelem" (champion from 1v1 to 10v10, m-NWWC, NWWC) at same time.
Never to be liked, never to be equaled, controversial duo for most, they don't want to speak about themselve.
They have done it together
That's it.
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96 - ∞

Drake and ExTaZz94


Elite Tier :
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Criteria : The players that showed exceptional gf capacity and for some duels aswell throughout long and consistent tournament runs, always being the top players of their team, no doubt.
They are the key people who were the head of their legendary teams, opening the path for generation of others top player and teams.
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93 - 94

94-Evanovic
94-Tiberias
93-Eddie
93-Ledger

Top Tier :
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Criteria : The players who showed mostly great gf capacities aswell as duel for some throughout their runs they have been key players of known and reputed even legendary teams on NW, they have marked the game.
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89 - 92

92 - LeBrave
92 - Moskito
92 - Maharbaal
92 - Stark
91- Axiom
90 - Troister
90 - JackieChan
89 - Fwuffy
89 - Hokej
89 - Bagins
89 - Rikimaru
89 - ClaSh
89 - Herishey
89 - Mandarinchik
89 - Harrier
89 - Mik

High Tier :

85 - 88

88 - Mopin
88 - Gressien
88 - Fatkoala
88 - Dren
88 - Crea
88 - Golden
88 - Marquez
88 - Petl
88 - Berkovic
88 - Fotin
88 - Lamehorse
88 - Robby
88 - Voluble

The list was only make by Haze , ExTaZz94 and some advices of LeBrave for a few  players.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 01:11:52 am
If you have differents opinions send it on this topic.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 01:19:45 am
Putting Maharbaal at the same p as Stark in All-Time Melee List

okay

edit: OH WAIT HE'S EVEN HIGHER LMAO
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Keita on August 14, 2018, 01:24:03 am
Putting Maharbaal at the same p as Stark in All-Time Melee List

okay

edit: OH WAIT HE'S EVEN HIGHER LMAO
i guess it's all about winning
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 01:33:42 am
Putting Maharbaal at the same p as Stark in All-Time Melee List

okay

edit: OH WAIT HE'S EVEN HIGHER LMAO
i guess it's all about winning
If it's about winning then my spectate skills should be rated as 90 or something, damn good All-Stars days
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: DayBoul on August 14, 2018, 01:34:22 am
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feels like extazz wants to tell us something specific by making that list
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cant quite put my finger on what it is exactly
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:thinking:
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Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Piercee on August 14, 2018, 01:36:21 am


88 - Bagins
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 01:38:18 am
I mean its his opinion so sure whatever I guess ofc everyone will moan and point out all the problems with the list but this list should be considered to be at least interesting to see extazz's opinions on other players imo.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Keita on August 14, 2018, 01:41:15 am
wtf theres 2 starks!!
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 01:44:38 am
I like that you included players like OHNO I always looked up to them in melee when i first started in the 22nd
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 02:02:52 am
I mean its his opinion so sure whatever I guess ofc everyone will moan and point out all the problems with the list but this list should be considered to be at least interesting to see extazz's opinions on other players imo.
extazz , haze and lebrave opinions *
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sir Obelix on August 14, 2018, 02:27:28 am
first page
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Fwuffy on August 14, 2018, 02:57:34 am
oh no
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Risk_ on August 14, 2018, 02:57:44 am
honestly where is dayboul? he doesn't get any respect around here. bagins and sk much higher

all 99s
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sanders on August 14, 2018, 03:01:25 am
so extrem
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: DayBoul on August 14, 2018, 04:05:04 am
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(https://i.imgur.com/vtY9YvI.png)
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looks like an invitation to me


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Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 04:14:31 am
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(https://i.imgur.com/vtY9YvI.png)
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looks like an invitation to me


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u had one already and lost

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(https://i.imgur.com/1ksfyuY.png)
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Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 10:11:54 am
I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.

Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.

I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.

Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?

Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.

Other than that seems reasonable to me.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: McPero on August 14, 2018, 11:16:57 am
I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.

Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.

I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.

Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?

Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.

Other than that seems reasonable to me.
Wait I thought this thread is a meme.
So many players missing and how can someone that didnt even play the game for the most of the time make an all time list lol. Make a current list and put yourself up there but don't be such an arrogant disrespectful lunatic. Only people that can make a decent all time melee list are Herishey, Maurice, ect, basically people that played the same for most of the time after melee changes in 2012, I think it was.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 14, 2018, 11:54:15 am
I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.

Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.

I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.

Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?

Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.

Other than that seems reasonable to me.
Wait I thought this thread is a meme.
So many players missing and how can someone that didnt even play the game for the most of the time make an all time list lol. Make a current list and put yourself up there but don't be such an arrogant disrespectful lunatic. Only people that can make a decent all time melee list are Herishey, Maurice, ect, basically people that played the same for most of the time after melee changes in 2012, I think it was.
+1

If you make an alltime list, you should atleast played NW since release in order to capture the whole span of the top players. I didn't see Extaz or Haze in any important team back in 2012 or 2013.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: LeBrave on August 14, 2018, 11:57:21 am
I don't see how you can put Harrier above any of the players in this list. Eddie, Evan, Axiom, Ledger and pretty much everyone that's been in Power Rangers used to meme about how overrated he was. If you look at this performance in any tournament other than NWEC/NWWC and that single duel tournament that he reached the finals in he really achieved nothing and his performance was poor in all of them.

Also JackieChan. Another player many of us have meme'd about for years. He did well in 1-2 gf tournaments years back when the skill level was significantly lower and again a duel tournament or two. But other than that he didn't really do much even when he was still at EU. And if you look at his performances in the gf tournament(s) he won again he was never top or carrying. Many of us dueled him when he came back to EU for a brief while and I'd be quite happy to say he's no where near on the level of any other player on that list other than Harrier potentially.

I'd also say Xeon should be 90. Overall he was a great player but his time was fairly short-lived like JackieChan, though he proved he could still compete with the best each time he came back, more-so in duels than gf though.

Oh and as Stark said there are two Starks one at 91 and one at 90?

Some suggestions to add in for me would be Mopin, Bagins and SpaceKiller.

Other than that seems reasonable to me.
Wait I thought this thread is a meme.
So many players missing and how can someone that didnt even play the game for the most of the time make an all time list lol. Make a current list and put yourself up there but don't be such an arrogant disrespectful lunatic. Only people that can make a decent all time melee list are Herishey, Maurice, ect, basically people that played the same for most of the time after melee changes in 2012, I think it was.
+1

If you make an alltime list, you should atleast played NW since release in order to capture the whole span of the top players. I didn't see Extaz or Haze in any important team back in 2012 or 2013.

and ? you think evan played 2015-2018 ? it's same
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 12:00:43 pm
I did, guess I should be 99. What Nosswill means is other than you LeBrave, Haze wasn't active in competitive events back then so it's hard for him to judge some of these players.  :)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Phoen!x on August 14, 2018, 12:16:31 pm
Heri and Nosswill are right. You’re underrating some legends of the game because they arent in their prime any longer. Where‘s Spacekiller? How on earth are Lebrave and Maharbaal better than Axiom/Clash in an all time melee list? And btw putting yourself and your boyfriend at the very top is atleast cocky. Also judging by your list, there havent been any successful Germans? So how come Germany as a nation has been as good? How about adding Gressien/Rommel? If you put urself at the top because the current gen is supposedly superior then by that logic some other current players should be on this list as well
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: LeBrave on August 14, 2018, 12:19:00 pm
I did, guess I should be 99. What Nosswill means is other than you LeBrave, Haze wasn't active in competitive events back then so it's hard for him to judge some of these players.  :)

in play since 2010 and in 2013 i played in FFE and played some tournaments so i think i can judge the old age . I'm not new in this game and and you heri or maurice idk are not more old than me in this game and i know every old player and i played with them it's why extazz ask me for old players. The list is not finish and we will add some players in top tier.

Also i think Harrier is more a duelist than GFer but it was a great chamber man with good block so a great "individual skill". 

Also the skill in 2012-2014 was more shit than now and if some on say no he is just crazy. so if some one play 2014-2018 and not 2012-2014 who played the more time ? just logic
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 12:26:19 pm
As I said in my last post I think it's fair to say you can judge these players yes. But the other people you made the list with is who I questions integrity in terms of the older players.  I would also agree Axiom should be higher. For a long time I thought him and Eddie were the two best older players.

Even as a duelist Harrier only ever performed well in one duel tournament as far as I know. Yes he was one of the first to spam chambers so well in that way but he never implemented it into any proper events well apart from a few good NWEC performances and that one duel tournament as far as I know.

I think most older players who were active in his prime, at least the top or most respected ones would agree with what I'm saying. Again naming Ledger, Eddie, Axiom, etc.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: McPero on August 14, 2018, 01:01:25 pm
You have Evanovic who was in my opinion best player of all times. He dominated the competitive groupfighting sceen for a really long time at prime of Napoleonic Wars (when population was the biggest).
You have Eddie similar to Evanovic and Ledger who was best center player son of Graham xD the MM legend.
Xeon was also really good groupfighter and duelist. He would be able to counter current downattack spam meta with his kickblocks and ability to chamber. 
Most of these players were in Nr.24 which was without doubt best regiment of all times.
You have Mopin who didn't play for months came back for Herishey's team for groupfighting tournament carried the team to victory (which included defeating French team).
Claiming that current melee is superior to that of 2014 is just dumb you think melee system in this game is so complex that most talented players need years to master it lol? It is not dota2 that no one has mastered it yet.
In terms of JackieChan for his time in EU he was probably best player together with Clash. As he went to NA he dominated their competitive scene but my guess is NA is weaker and they use different melee speed so he kinda got worse and when he came back to EU once he admitted he is much worse than he used to be.
There is many other players that I didnt mention.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 14, 2018, 01:55:24 pm
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There is many other players that I didnt mention.
Yeah the German legend and one of the best international players who ever touched this game: DarkCore aka. "The German Bulldozer", "The Coke"
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Lone on August 14, 2018, 02:52:21 pm
tbh putting yourself and drake above stark, ledger etc is pretty much bullshit. no front extazz but i am pretty sure most of them could take you in duels as long as they dont go in for your silly s keying. getting inpatient because someone else is s keying just to bait has less to do with skill but with nerves. just my opinion. in terms of gfs i can just state that stark is better than both of you, saw him in 66th and now in 91st, always top, no matter with whom hes playing, what i cant really tell about you two.. at least make it realistic and less arrogant, ikr you achieved much with the french team and you both are outstanding players, but belittling others like that is indeed pretty arrogant.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 02:55:09 pm
My list would go something like this I imagine. Though I did throw this up in 5 minutes;

List
100 Bobertini
100 DarkCore
99 Drake
98 Evan
97 Tiberias
97 Eddie
96 Ledger
96 Axiom
95 Bagins
95 Extaz94
94 Moskito
94 Xeon
93 Stark
92 Herishey
92 Troister
92 Maharbaal
91 Rikimaru
91 ClaSh
90 SpaceKiller
90 JackieChan
89 Mik
89 Jammo
89 Dren
89 Maurice
89 Harrier
89 LeBrave
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Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Haze on August 14, 2018, 03:05:03 pm
Don't take this too serious. Stark is not lower than ppl actually he is 181 rated!!!
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 03:08:04 pm
People will take any list seriously. ;)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 03:33:57 pm
tbh putting yourself and drake above stark, ledger etc is pretty much bullshit. no front extazz but i am pretty sure most of them could take you in duels as long as they dont go in for your silly s keying. getting inpatient because someone else is s keying just to bait has less to do with skill but with nerves. just my opinion. in terms of gfs i can just state that stark is better than both of you, saw him in 66th and now in 91st, always top, no matter with whom hes playing, what i cant really tell about you two.. at least make it realistic and less arrogant, ikr you achieved much with the french team and you both are outstanding players, but belittling others like that is indeed pretty arrogant.
Idk , i play for 4 years nw competitive scene and no one beat me in 1v1 except Drake :)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Gandalf_the_cool on August 14, 2018, 03:37:07 pm
Sword list pls?????)))
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 03:37:16 pm
And nowadays 75% if not more of the tournaments are gropfighting tournaments not duels. It seems to me from the list that a few of these players have been heavily rated on their duel ability alone which doesn't make much sense with the meta over the last couple years.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 03:43:48 pm
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was new it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on August 14, 2018, 03:44:38 pm
SK: Harrier is just another firefly.     
SK: Voluble should have 10 points of each of Drake and ExtaZz for raping them in NWWC.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sanders on August 14, 2018, 03:57:28 pm
NA list when
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 03:58:02 pm
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was new it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
I totally agree of what you said.
But we can't skip theirs tournaments win in the past.
Any way when you saw "2012 player" come back in tournaments  he just feed the opposite side.

From my experience i have rekt all players in this list  so it's fine ( drake too  :-*)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 03:59:16 pm
I just don't get how a legend player like Herishey can suck so bad and feed every gf??
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 14, 2018, 04:12:56 pm
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.

Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game

For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 04:22:33 pm
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
Spoiler
I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.

Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game

For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.
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In 2015 Me and Haze beat Evanovic and Eddie in 2v2 tournament.
But in 2015 we had just 35% of our best level.

Don't need conclusion.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on August 14, 2018, 04:23:52 pm
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
Spoiler
I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.

Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game

For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.
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In 2015 Me and Haze beat Evanovic and Eddie in 2v2 tournament.
But in 2015 we had just 35% of our best level.

Don't need conclusion.
im at 10% rn
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 04:24:08 pm
Yes Yes Yes No No Yes No
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 04:24:26 pm
I just don't get how a legend player like Herishey can suck so bad and feed every gf??
Hello mr dies to Vol every tournament.

I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
Spoiler
I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.

Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game

For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.
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In 2015 Me and Haze beat Evanovic and Eddie and 2v2 tournament.
But in 2015 we had just 35% of our best level.

Don't need conclusion.
And then in 2016 TFFO beat FrenchTouch 10-1 in a tournament final, as well as beating All Stars later the same year 7-3 in the final after your famous 'Record your loss' quote. I think it was 2016, may have been 2017.

You always bring up those one or two times you beat these type of players but you always forget the amount of times we also beat you. :)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 14, 2018, 04:25:58 pm
Yeah extaz because back in 2015 you probably didn't invest that much time in the game like you did in 2016-2017, but it is acutally funny that your capabilities were on 35%. Did you calculate that? :P
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 04:28:21 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 04:29:47 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on August 14, 2018, 04:30:20 pm
SK: Herishey is such a retard.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 04:38:30 pm
I'm sorry but I hate all this bullshit coming out from all these 2012 and 2013 legends can you please stop, an all-time list incorporates players from ALL TIME not oh its all time list so that means i guess only 2012 and 2013 meleers, PLEASE that is so dumb its unbelievable. There are players today from 2017 and 2018 that play better than almost all of those players from those years ago, voluble and Bagins, python and many more . Yes Voluble is a meme but he actually has a lot of skill and shows intelligent group fighting for someone who has only been on the scene for a couple of years and he has achieved a lot in that time.


Yes the player base was bigger in 2012 - 2015 but I have been playing the game since release too and I was a 22nd member for years, I played in GF teams like GoJP and Eurotouch with lebrave back then I was an average meleer so never got any attention until 2016 but if you look at the playerbase every one was knew it only took a few tryhards to break through the trash lines and get their fancy names out there so everyone thinks they're amazing for ever 99% of players in 2012 where utter tropical paradise trash that can't block. Besides that the "melee meta" in 2012 was just spin around and hope for the best so when people discovered how to melee properly they were legends all of a sudden, Lets be real meleers from  2012-2015 should not automatically be rated any higher than people known from later years of the game its a gross overestimation of their talent. It's been extremely difficult for players like myself and bagins to even get a foothold and start winning tournaments because so many gf teams captains, regiment leaders etc see a name like "melton" "troister" and "clash" and automatically think god player, please. I had to win fucking tournaments with "apparently" dog shit players in tbe against all-star lineups of players only to finally get noticed as a decent meleer...


Sorry for the rant but TL;DR don't rate players from 2012 as automatically better than anyone who has ever touched the game...
I think you just don't understand how these "Alltime Lists" work. It is indeed possible to debate whether players from 2014-2015 in their prime were better than players nowadays. But you just can't put Extaz or Haze on top of the alltime list, since they started to play competitively at the end of 2015 I suppose. People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years. Of course Voluble or Bagins are amazing, but they started, as you said, a couple of years ago, thus putting them on an alltime list doesn't make sense, instead they should be on top of a current melee list.

Also you stated that you played this game since release and you never got any attention until 2016. I think that back in time other players who are inactive now just dominated the game and invested so much time in it. When they went inactive, new players like yourself and especially Haze or Extaz started to climb the ladder as we saw in 2017 and dominated, since the older players didn't have any time to invest in the game like they did before (because of university or their job), whereas the players who are currently on top started to generate hundreds of hours into the game

For example: When I was in the 91st team, I think we beat the future Frenchtouch team, Rockets, 5-0. But since I took a one and a half year break and I don't have that much time to play like I had when I was in school, every member of the French team would probably shit on me nowadays.

Okay I said nothing about this lists specific ratings I also don't agree with Haze and Extazz instant top of the list...

"People who should be on top of such a lists, are the ones who consistently played on a high level throughout the years" I just don't understand then why people who played consistently a few years ago then left should be on an all time list and not people who have played consistently in the past 3 years?

I agree with most of what you said but none of it is an argument to why an all-time list should be dominated by only 2012-2014 players all you have stated is that those players were good back then you have not told me at all why those players are better than the current players? Because the time played is still around the same. I have barely enough time to play the game too back then I was in school and didn't play nearly as much now im in the middle of my degree as well people leave the game and change none of what you said explains why an all-time list is dominated by purely 2012-2014 players? What becasue if they still played they "probably" would still be the best it's just an invalid argument an all-time list should incorporate ALL good players from the years not a select few doesnt make sense...
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 04:39:06 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
+

little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 04:46:16 pm
Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Toffee on August 14, 2018, 04:53:43 pm
Are we seriously doing all this shite again
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 05:09:04 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
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little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
Yeah a M-NWWC, where FRA had possibly their strongest team and we had basically none of ours. Evan only came for the last round. fatkoala had gone inactive at this point meaning only Axiom and I were active from the team that won the NWWC that same year. Oh and the year before that, oh wait and the year before that.  :)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 05:10:03 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
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little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/
Yeah a M-NWWC, where FRA had possibly their strongest team and we had basically none of ours. Evan only came for the last round. fatkoala had gone inactive at this point meaning only Axiom and I were active from the team that won the NWWC that same year. Oh and the year before that, oh wait and the year before that.  :)

lol bob and jonnyboy
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 05:10:55 pm
That was not a good time for GB.  :-\

RIP the boys.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 05:12:44 pm
Not as bad as GB when it was run by price and had hursty and hepty  in starting 8
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on August 14, 2018, 05:14:04 pm
Not as bad as GB when it was run by price and had hursty and hepty  in starting 8
Not as bad as having hertz in the 14 man roster
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 05:15:22 pm
Not as bad as Vol actually being top in a match.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Tournesol on August 14, 2018, 05:18:34 pm
Poor voluble  :'(
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: BabyJesus on August 14, 2018, 06:11:37 pm
Lebrave sucks
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 06:46:55 pm
Lebrave sucks
the voa
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sleek on August 14, 2018, 07:17:10 pm
Where is fungus
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Piercee on August 14, 2018, 07:17:57 pm
Where is fungus
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: McPero on August 14, 2018, 07:44:32 pm
Yeah extaz because back in 2015 you probably didn't invest that much time in the game like you did in 2016-2017, but it is acutally funny that your capabilities were on 35%. Did you calculate that? :P
If he was at 35% of the skill in 2015 that would mean he just about learned how to block and how chamber is done.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 07:50:26 pm
Update :

+ Hokej , Fwuffy and Mandarinchink added to top tier.
+ Top players of High Tier added
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: John Price on August 14, 2018, 08:06:59 pm
Evan not Extreme??!!
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 08:10:59 pm
Hokej and Fwuffy are fair to add I was thinking of them earlier but it depends if you are taking longevity into account. If it is I'd say they'd be 87-88.

But then I guess longevity isn't or Jackie & Harrier would be lower too.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Fwuffy on August 14, 2018, 08:11:15 pm
Evan not Extreme??!!
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 14, 2018, 08:36:25 pm
Hokej and Fwuffy are fair to add I was thinking of them earlier but it depends if you are taking longevity into account. If it is I'd say they'd be 87-88.

But then I guess longevity isn't or Jackie & Harrier would be lower too.
I need your opinion about the elite tier , do you think more players deserve to be in or consersely i should remove one or two players ?
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 08:50:09 pm
I'd say Evan 95 considering the amount he achieved in his time playing, and it was from MM till like 2016 so a fair amount of time too. But no one else really deserves that tier I guess in terms of an all time list.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on August 14, 2018, 08:50:23 pm
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 08:51:35 pm
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
Didn't notice that, seems very questionable on an all time list imo. Maybe an 85-86.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 08:54:39 pm
Can you at least put an E on the end of Extreme
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 14, 2018, 09:00:46 pm
Considering it's an all time list in terms of longevity I think these changes should be made;

Harrier should be 87, Jackie 88, Herishey 90, Axiom 92, Maharbaal 90 or 89 and Lebrave 90 or 89. In the lower tier Voluble needs to go down to 86 as he's only been at the top of the current scene for like 6 months at this point, Fotin I think should be 87 based on his average skill over time and there are other players I'd also suggest to add in at 87-88. I can justify any of my suggestions if you want here or feel free to Steam me.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 14, 2018, 09:22:11 pm
Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..
Sorry for my late replay, but I totally agree with you. I understand what you mean, but I was just reffering to this list and not in general. Of course players who started in 2012 and played three years are not automatically better than players who started in 2015 and are still playing, just because they started the game earlier. I think is just their reputation that makes people think that players back in the days are better compared to players nowadays.
By solely thinking about Jackie, I immediately remember his reputiation to be the best and so people are tending to put him higher in these lists.

But the only way to judge players are by tournament wins because all other criterias are just biased, but it is also quite hard to value a players impact in the team.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 14, 2018, 09:24:06 pm
Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..
Sorry for my late replay, but I totally agree with you. I understand what you mean, but I was just reffering to this list and not in general. Of course players who started in 2012 and played three years are not automatically better than players who started in 2015 and are still playing, just because they started the game earlier. I think is just their reputation that makes people think that players back in the days are better compared to players nowadays.
By solely thinking about Jackie, I immediately remember his reputiation to be the best and so people are tending to put him higher in these lists.

But the only way to judge players are by tournament wins because all other criterias are just biased, but it is also quite hard to value a players impact in the team.

Agreed. Besides most of these lists should remain as opinions rather than fact and shouldn't be considered to have any real accuracy.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 14, 2018, 09:28:54 pm
Just to clarify just because someone started playing the game in 2015 and are good now doesn't mean their melee skill is just worse than those from previous years I don't think you understand that..
Sorry for my late replay, but I totally agree with you. I understand what you mean, but I was just reffering to this list and not in general. Of course players who started in 2012 and played three years are not automatically better than players who started in 2015 and are still playing, just because they started the game earlier. I think is just their reputation that makes people think that players back in the days are better compared to players nowadays.
By solely thinking about Jackie, I immediately remember his reputiation to be the best and so people are tending to put him higher in these lists.

But the only way to judge players are by tournament wins because all other criterias are just biased, but it is also quite hard to value a players impact in the team.

Agreed. Besides most of these lists should remain as opinions rather than fact and shouldn't be considered to have any real accuracy.
Yeah the only list I consider somewhat accurate in terms of tournament wins and of course the importance of these wins (I don't consider tournaments that were organized every week as important) is Ledgers list, but it is still very debatable.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: McPero on August 14, 2018, 09:39:30 pm
So many people better than Harrier and not even on the list better just remove him.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 14, 2018, 09:56:19 pm
VOLUBLE IN ALL TIME MELEE LIST AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Lone on August 15, 2018, 12:38:16 am
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
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little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/

If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.

I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Muhataa on August 15, 2018, 12:57:37 am
VOLUBLE IN ALL TIME MELEE LIST AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
He was top fragging for ENG, in the match versus FRA cmon  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 15, 2018, 01:47:31 am
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
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little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/

If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.

I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
" I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."
No you can't.

Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?

Just prove me with solids arguments why can't  Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments  why i can't  be the first on this list.

PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Janne on August 15, 2018, 01:51:01 am
hmm  ???
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Piercee on August 15, 2018, 03:57:04 am
are we talking about your dinner table or the lunch table at school here, important information
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: lonedoge on August 15, 2018, 04:07:17 am
the high tier list is a fucking crime
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sanders on August 15, 2018, 04:21:25 am
For fucks sake Pierce
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Lone on August 15, 2018, 08:18:12 am
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
+

little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/

If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.

I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
" I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."
No you can't.

Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?

Just prove me with solids arguments why can't  Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments  why i can't  be the first on this list.

PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".

Your reply shows me that you may be good at nw but either your language or your iq is not half as high as your ranking points.

"Possibly could" is double subjunctive meaning I doubt it myself.

I'm not saying you can't do a list, I just say that I doubt the quality of this list due to the old players not really being comparable to you only by achievements. Nor by "Yes but we already did beat them" - that's very cool and I guess your parents are proud Aswell but you have no clue if they'd 7-0 you if it was they at their prime vs you at their prime. Your logic is only based on the fact that you won some stuff but please try to think a bit further. Ikr that your self esteem highly depends on such lists etc because otherwise no one would give a fucking shit about you anymore, but at least stay a bit on the ground.

I am not saying you can't be first, but isn't it ironic to put yourself 1st on a list you made? I just doubt that an Evan, Stark etc. (to just name few) really are worse.

Read this reply properly and activate your brain please.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 15, 2018, 01:16:06 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
+

little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/

If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.

I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
" I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."
No you can't.

Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?

Just prove me with solids arguments why can't  Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments  why i can't  be the first on this list.

PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".

Your reply shows me that you may be good at nw but either your language or your iq is not half as high as your ranking points.

"Possibly could" is double subjunctive meaning I doubt it myself.

I'm not saying you can't do a list, I just say that I doubt the quality of this list due to the old players not really being comparable to you only by achievements. Nor by "Yes but we already did beat them" - that's very cool and I guess your parents are proud Aswell but you have no clue if they'd 7-0 you if it was they at their prime vs you at their prime. Your logic is only based on the fact that you won some stuff but please try to think a bit further. Ikr that your self esteem highly depends on such lists etc because otherwise no one would give a fucking shit about you anymore, but at least stay a bit on the ground.

I am not saying you can't be first, but isn't it ironic to put yourself 1st on a list you made? I just doubt that an Evan, Stark etc. (to just name few) really are worse.

Read this reply properly and activate your brain please.
You write like 300 words for nothing , wp lone.
I ask you real arguments , you answer me "look your qi"
I ask you real arguments , you answer me "can't comparate with old players"

Now , i have a problem , i debating about all time list with someone on 4-5 years in nw did nothing.
You are not in my list and you defending your friends.
Little cuck.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Muhataa on August 15, 2018, 01:44:00 pm
OOF
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Dokletian on August 15, 2018, 01:48:49 pm
You actually made a list just to see you and Haze finally on the very top?
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 15, 2018, 01:54:28 pm
Well no one else was gonna put Extaz there.  ::)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Benallo on August 15, 2018, 01:55:28 pm
give Dokletian 98
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Lone on August 15, 2018, 02:00:27 pm
That was 7-1 u herishit
Stark said it was 10-1 the other-day, ffs Stark you shit cunt.
I don't know why but i love this screen : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/401179644817639460/1A3A7C47CD186BC8B098EA0E38089A13F21B097B/
Spoiler
(It was a final for M-NWWC , score :7-1)
[close]
+

little bonus for Stark : https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/394422340462756024/BF8CB0505B2FC8919F1BB441F303F3D3CE55265D/

If I remember right frenchtouch got fucked pretty hard by the Swedes with V75 where all of you were tryharding.

I'm not trying to put your achievements down but it's indeed rather stupid to argue "I beat person X in 2016" whilst the persons prime was years before. I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then. These lists are difficult af since you can't compare shit, but instead of doing an all time list while you haven't even been around most time just do one in terms of the time you actually know shit about and leave the rest to Herishey etc.
" I possibly could beat you Aswell now but I'd never assume myself stronger then."
No you can't.

Btw , who in this thread can sit at my table and say "i have better palmares than you extazz"?

Just prove me with solids arguments why can't  Haze , Me and Lebrave can make a list.
Now about my ranking , with solids arguments  why i can't  be the first on this list.

PS: When i talking about solid arguments , i mean don't say to me "you don't play nw on 2012 , but players in 2012 are super saiyan so you are shit".

Your reply shows me that you may be good at nw but either your language or your iq is not half as high as your ranking points.

"Possibly could" is double subjunctive meaning I doubt it myself.

I'm not saying you can't do a list, I just say that I doubt the quality of this list due to the old players not really being comparable to you only by achievements. Nor by "Yes but we already did beat them" - that's very cool and I guess your parents are proud Aswell but you have no clue if they'd 7-0 you if it was they at their prime vs you at their prime. Your logic is only based on the fact that you won some stuff but please try to think a bit further. Ikr that your self esteem highly depends on such lists etc because otherwise no one would give a fucking shit about you anymore, but at least stay a bit on the ground.

I am not saying you can't be first, but isn't it ironic to put yourself 1st on a list you made? I just doubt that an Evan, Stark etc. (to just name few) really are worse.

Read this reply properly and activate your brain please.
You write like 300 words for nothing , wp lone.
I ask you real arguments , you answer me "look your qi"
I ask you real arguments , you answer me "can't comparate with old players"

Now , i have a problem , i debating about all time list with someone on 4-5 years in nw did nothing.
You are not in my list and you defending your friends.
Little cuck.

I marked the main arguments for you, maybe some capable french could translate it for you so maybe have a chance of getting it.

Also which friends? I don´t even know these old dogs and I´m by far not friends with most on the list.

"with someone on 4-5 years in nw did nothing" Meaning I can´t have a logical opinion? Mkay..
 
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on August 15, 2018, 03:47:36 pm
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Benallo on August 15, 2018, 04:43:11 pm
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.
 
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 15, 2018, 04:50:07 pm
Well no one else was gonna put Extaz there.  ::)
We had criteria in this list , read it and come back.

Now you have read criteria for each list , CONGRATULATION Herishey  , +1 point.

Now use your brain 10 seconds , yes Haze and Extazz fill the criteria , CONGRATULATION  Herishey ,  +2 points.

Now , 1+2=3 so if you're doing well you won 3 points.

0 point   = Lone

1 point   = Wp dude you went to school.

3 points = Congratulations dude you were objective at least one time in your life.

Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 15, 2018, 04:57:12 pm
Wow I'm awesome.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 15, 2018, 04:58:22 pm
Irrelevant
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Lone on August 15, 2018, 09:07:31 pm
Extazz You're stupid as fuck
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sanders on August 15, 2018, 09:38:01 pm
Extazz You're stupid as fuck
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Dokletian on August 15, 2018, 09:38:30 pm
give Dokletian 98
yup would be accurate
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Kasai on August 15, 2018, 09:47:40 pm
what about wolpi / woplee ?
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Gandalf_the_cool on August 15, 2018, 09:53:21 pm
give Dokletian 98
yup would be accurate
A bit on the low side for the legendary top 10 Dokletian I say! This old one admires his humility. . . . .!
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 15, 2018, 09:55:23 pm
what about wolpi / woplee ?
Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Kasai on August 15, 2018, 10:07:04 pm
what about wolpi / woplee ?
Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
junge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 15, 2018, 10:13:56 pm
what about wolpi / woplee ?
Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
junge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
Die ganzen Franzosen, vor allem extaz oder Haze gehören halt nicht nach ganz oben auf eine Alltime Liste. Aber naja, wenn man eine eigene Liste macht, dann muss man auch selber oben stehen :P
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 15, 2018, 10:17:47 pm
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on August 15, 2018, 10:22:01 pm
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.

Fotin has small brain
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Herishey on August 15, 2018, 10:25:21 pm
Spoiler
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.

Fotin has small brain
[close]
Fuckin' medium brains.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Tigere on August 16, 2018, 12:00:23 am
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.

Fotin has small brain
Fuckin' medium brains.
NA has to help us!!
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Tournesol on August 16, 2018, 10:42:07 am
I want to make my own list now xD
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: AeroNinja on August 16, 2018, 11:19:28 am
I want to make my own list now xD
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IncredibleOrganicBug-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on August 16, 2018, 11:58:03 am
88 - Voluble ??????   I mean i did lead chimpz to win alot then join poosy and win alot there and have improved recently but 88 too much, should just about scrape on the list let alone that high?
BUMP
Well you carried your team in the NWWC final, which deserves that rating.
On an all-time list carrying that one final (where we still lost anyway) deserves a high rating? Smh.

Fotin has small brain
Fuckin' medium brains.
NA has to help us!!
I got ya ez
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MarxeiL on August 16, 2018, 12:50:02 pm
spoilers in 2k18 pfffff
amirite
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ExtaZz94 on August 16, 2018, 02:12:12 pm
what about wolpi / woplee ?
Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
junge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
Die ganzen Franzosen, vor allem extaz oder Haze gehören halt nicht nach ganz oben auf eine Alltime Liste. Aber naja, wenn man eine eigene Liste macht, dann muss man auch selber oben stehen :P

Verrückt, weil du nicht da bist  :)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nosswill on August 16, 2018, 02:15:16 pm
what about wolpi / woplee ?
Junge das ist ne Alltime Liste
junge die hälfte der franzosen dort drauf ist schlechter als wolpi und das seit mehr als nem jahr. all time ist nur für die gemacht damit sie sich krass fühlen wie lang sie schon ihr leben damit verschwenden *hust*
edit: hast aber recht da gehört er nicht hin mein fehler
Die ganzen Franzosen, vor allem extaz oder Haze gehören halt nicht nach ganz oben auf eine Alltime Liste. Aber naja, wenn man eine eigene Liste macht, dann muss man auch selber oben stehen :P

Verrückt, weil du nicht da bist  :)
Ja total  :'(

Google translator must be the most used program in France
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: AeroNinja on August 16, 2018, 02:15:32 pm
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/c6DIpCp1922KQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Tigere on August 19, 2018, 09:42:41 pm
Stabbed this guy with a simple down stab smh
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Moskito on August 20, 2018, 12:14:24 am
Oh hell yeah!

This is some quality content!

Thanks for making my week

Spoiler
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/370a2b287de2c92528d8e2bbf44a3e8c/tenor.gif?itemid=12284366)
[close]
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: yecgga on August 20, 2018, 12:16:27 am
where my name nigga
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Artista. on September 04, 2018, 02:14:30 pm
I mean its his opinion so sure whatever I guess ofc everyone will moan and point out all the problems with the list but this list should be considered to be at least interesting to see extazz's opinions on other players imo.
^^^^
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Ciiges on September 11, 2018, 11:18:56 am
toot toot it's my own horn
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Tardet on September 11, 2018, 11:38:56 am
For what it's worth, I feel the ranking of some players (hardly all of them) is more accurate on this list than it ever was on any other all-time list made until now.  For the rest, its pretty much what Golden said.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sir Obelix on March 21, 2019, 02:22:02 pm
i don't even know half of players of this list
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sanders on March 21, 2019, 02:32:38 pm
Necroing dead threads newgen
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 21, 2019, 02:37:32 pm
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Fwuffy on March 21, 2019, 02:41:30 pm
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D
Like when he won NWWC on a Frankfurt server, right? Or M. League. Quit being a fucking meme please.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 21, 2019, 02:43:27 pm
I’m going to call poles for this.
#11-9

(https://i.imgur.com/RTtIZmS.jpg)
See?
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Fwuffy on March 21, 2019, 03:14:28 pm
No I don't understand, they lost 11:10 in 2016 that proves they improved over time?
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on March 21, 2019, 03:21:20 pm
I didn't know having 10 to 18 ping was such a big difference? 
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 21, 2019, 03:30:43 pm
I didn't know having 10 to 18 ping was such a big difference?
That’s why they always deny to play on german server.
Spoiler
the whole scene is banter anyway, don’t take it serious
[close]
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: John Price on March 21, 2019, 04:01:04 pm
If anything they got worse, Voluble is top fragging.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Piercee on March 21, 2019, 10:48:30 pm
i really missed max1m
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on March 22, 2019, 12:45:49 am
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D

+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit  ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MATT123456789 on March 22, 2019, 04:33:55 am
let this be a reminder I 7-0d the extazz of NA in a duel tournament
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Muhataa on March 22, 2019, 11:05:05 am
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D

+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit  ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
fact
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
 :)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Ismar on March 22, 2019, 12:13:40 pm
                                                                                                 

Extrem Tier :
Spoiler
Criteria : the players that have achieved by both exceptional duel and gf capacity total domination on NW aka the "grand chelem" (champion from 1v1 to 10v10, m-NWWC, NWWC) at same time.
Never to be liked, never to be equaled, controversial duo for most, they don't want to speak about themselve.
They have done it together
That's it.
[close]

96 - ∞

Drake and ExTaZz94


Elite Tier :
Spoiler
Criteria : The players that showed exceptional gf capacity and for some duels aswell throughout long and consistent tournament runs, always being the top players of their team, no doubt.
They are the key people who were the head of their legendary teams, opening the path for generation of others top player and teams.
[close]

93 - 94

93-Eddie



hahahahahahahaHAHhhashfahahahahhahahHAHHAHAHhahaha
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Bagins on March 22, 2019, 12:56:37 pm
I think this list needs re-visiting  :o
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Rikkert on March 22, 2019, 01:03:43 pm
Put me in extrem tier. I once kicked Tiberias and Extazz on the duel server on the same day. If that isnt a sign of an extrem tier player, then I dont know what is. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 22, 2019, 01:48:30 pm
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D

+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit  ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Everyone who plays strictly on 10-20 ping is much worse with 40-50, fact. Same for you, Golden :'(
P.S
“Top-list” is in need to be updated, especially after FT losing to ChimpZ 5-0 last March.
Spoiler
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzgfIWbon4
[close]
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Ry@n on March 22, 2019, 01:50:26 pm
Do you suck your self off at night extazzz
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Piercee on March 22, 2019, 02:39:28 pm
Do you suck your self off at night extazzz

that's max1m, not extazz
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Voluble123 on March 22, 2019, 03:25:22 pm
If anything they got worse, Voluble is top fragging.
I am always good vs frenchies idk why
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 22, 2019, 04:59:56 pm
Do you suck your self off at night extazzz

that's max1m, not extazz
Ryan is absolutely right about Extaz.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: MATT123456789 on March 22, 2019, 06:30:34 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/9izDGNT.png)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on March 22, 2019, 06:37:54 pm
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D

+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit  ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Everyone who plays strictly on 10-20 ping is much worse with 40-50, fact. Same for you, Golden :'(
P.S
“Top-list” is in need to be updated, especially after FT losing to ChimpZ 5-0 last March.
Spoiler
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzgfIWbon4
[close]

I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me  :-*
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Sir Obelix on March 22, 2019, 07:18:04 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/9izDGNT.png)

i can easily identify a lot of people with that pic  ::)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nock on March 23, 2019, 03:09:53 am
put me above tiberias, i once carried more than both him and clash did in the KKA for rgl two years ago
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 23, 2019, 04:32:06 am
i don't even know half of players of this list
Most of those “tops” played when NW was about blocks. Nowadays it’s hard to imagine them being as strong as you, Obelix, for example. French part is the funniest thing here. Yes, they did good, winning all the way up in NWWC, 5v5 and etc., but there’s one but, they used to play on their national servers with the lowest ping you could ever find which means fastest speed, no lags, no freezes; Move the same Extaz to Frankfurt’s host server and observe him crying so bad about +20 ping ;D

+1 extazz with more than 30 ping = shit  ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Everyone who plays strictly on 10-20 ping is much worse with 40-50, fact. Same for you, Golden :'(
P.S
“Top-list” is in need to be updated, especially after FT losing to ChimpZ 5-0 last March.
Spoiler
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzgfIWbon4
[close]

I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me  :-*
No one said you are bad but as you yourself emphasized it makes the difference.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Bagins on March 23, 2019, 05:48:45 am
I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me  :-*
imagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCP
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Rikkert on March 23, 2019, 01:00:36 pm
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nock on March 23, 2019, 08:37:32 pm
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.



hahahahaha ure bad
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Ry@n on March 23, 2019, 09:05:23 pm
 ??? :oftp://
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.
toxic.
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Rikkert on March 23, 2019, 09:09:43 pm
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.



hahahahaha ure bad
Nock more like sock. Lmao l8r nerd
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on March 23, 2019, 09:51:37 pm
I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me  :-*
imagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCP
just talking about ping m8  ??? max1m only understand this talk he has small brain like monkey
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Nock on March 23, 2019, 10:09:14 pm
I like how we now have more than one list thread where the same people can trash talk eachother.



hahahahaha ure bad
Nock more like sock. Lmao l8r nerd

 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: The British Spy on March 24, 2019, 12:43:32 am
I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me  :-*
imagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCP
just talking about ping m8  ??? max1m only understand this talk he has small brain like monkey
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemes.ucoz.com%2F_nw%2F27%2F98086350.jpg&hash=8c556ec9566a2c089e3f7c5e63481845952fb01d)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on March 24, 2019, 03:52:21 am
I dont play on 10-20 anymore lol I lost my good ping ages ago. Also you were there last night tbe vs cccp i had 55 ping and i was carrying tbe hard against CCCP members like shogun with lower ping than me  :-*
imagine boasting about getting kills against CCCP, no offense CCCP
just talking about ping m8  ??? max1m only understand this talk he has small brain like monkey
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemes.ucoz.com%2F_nw%2F27%2F98086350.jpg&hash=8c556ec9566a2c089e3f7c5e63481845952fb01d)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on July 25, 2019, 02:35:17 am
Reviving THE undisputed melee list.

Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: David_Schrein on July 25, 2019, 02:36:18 am
Reviving THE undisputed melee list.


(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Shadey on July 25, 2019, 02:43:48 am
Reviving THE undisputed melee list.


(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
Time to get the palmares out
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Fwuffy on July 25, 2019, 02:45:03 am
Reviving THE undisputed melee list.


(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
Time to get the palmares out
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgiphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fmedia%2Frl0FOxdz7CcxO%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=c871f9af73c6b44c3aacdedb1fee86bfd3830b44)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Golden. on July 25, 2019, 02:49:07 am
Reviving THE undisputed melee list.


(https://i.gyazo.com/7bf473c7b430fe008005a29b67cca8ba.png) dw its happening already
Time to get the palmares out
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgiphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fmedia%2Frl0FOxdz7CcxO%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=c871f9af73c6b44c3aacdedb1fee86bfd3830b44)
Title: Re: ALL TIME MELEE LIST [EU]
Post by: Kraz on July 25, 2019, 04:49:31 am
lol this topic