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Title: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 06, 2013, 11:51:05 pm
You got to be...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G9MN3AWGwb0/UTfHz3lzcQI/AAAAAAAACOY/3jTQr61SG4A/s1440/Amerikaan.png)

Fucking KIDDING ME!

Yes, this man, born in Philidelphia, SOMEHOW served 7 years in the Portuguese army, did every campaign in the Peninsular (That's what it says - every) and then was a Korporaal in the 7de Bataljon van Linie at Quatre-bras and Waterloo.

I've seen Danes, Germans, Scots, Czechs, Prussians and even French in the NL army, but this is the first time I found an American. Thought it would be worth sharing.

Also note how he's 1,70 cm, while most guys were around 1,55. And the fact he's only 22 during the battles, which would meant he joined the Portuguese army aged 12-14; I leave it to you to trust or not trust this story.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: kpetschulat on March 07, 2013, 12:01:32 am
'Merica! Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: KillerMongoose on March 07, 2013, 12:10:29 am
America won the Battle of Waterloo and saved Europe.

'Merica, fuck yeah!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Docm30 on March 07, 2013, 12:30:15 am
It wasn't unheard of for an American to serve in a European army. There were at least five Americans in the Irish Legion of the French army, and I suspect a lot more than that in other French regiments. Naturally, there were a number in the British army, as well, especially if you count Canadians.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 12:35:45 am
Yes, but I'm quite sure this is the first time an American in the UKN army has been found.

There actually was an ex-corporal from the 3eme etranger in the 8th Dutch militia.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Bluehawk on March 07, 2013, 12:43:31 am
Stop opening dead people's mail, Duuring, what's wrong with you?
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 12:48:30 am
Everybody has a past-time of their own. I look up militaire records.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: DeoVindice61 on March 07, 2013, 03:09:02 am
Amazing.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Pinball Wizard on March 07, 2013, 03:49:19 am
Is there a translated version? Its kinda hard to read everything that's going on  :-[
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: OGNValjean on March 07, 2013, 05:47:36 am
See, thats why America needs to be a faction in this game.




GASP SOMEONESAID AMERICA BEING A FACTION

'BANDON TEH THREAD
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Karth on March 07, 2013, 06:05:29 am
Oh wow im in Philadelphia right now, I know of a historical center in center city that has all these historical war records of people from Philly, maybe ill check there too for more info  :D
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Archduke Sven on March 07, 2013, 09:01:30 am
Quote from: Karth on March 07, 2013, 06:05:29 am
Oh wow im in Philadelphia right now, I know of a historical center in center city that has all these historical war records of people from Philly, maybe ill check there too for more info  :D

Philadelphia used to be a Swedish colony!

So everytime someone speaks of Philly' to me i always call it New Sweden, i am sure the Dutch do the same with NY.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 11:42:21 am
Quote from: Pinball Wizard on March 07, 2013, 03:49:19 am
Is there a translated version? Its kinda hard to read everything that's going on  :-[

I'll translate it word for word tonight (That's in about five to six hours)

Quote from: Karth on March 07, 2013, 06:05:29 am
Oh wow im in Philadelphia right now, I know of a historical center in center city that has all these historical war records of people from Philly, maybe ill check there too for more info  :D

Let me know if they have anything on him (Or want to know things)

Quote from: Archduke_Sven on March 07, 2013, 09:01:30 am
So everytime someone speaks of Philly' to me i always call it New Sweden, i am sure the Dutch do the same with NY.

Actually, we don't. It's New York to us.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: KillerMongoose on March 07, 2013, 02:04:03 pm
Quote from: Archduke_Sven on March 07, 2013, 09:01:30 am
So everytime someone speaks of Philly' to me i always call it New Sweden, i am sure the Dutch do the same with NY.
New Amsterdam :P
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 07, 2013, 02:37:13 pm
'Murica. Fightin' for freedom and justice all the way from Portugal to Waterloo.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Hekko on March 07, 2013, 02:47:07 pm
Afaik William de Lancey was from New York, and he was a friend of Wellington and a senior member of the latters staff.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 02:53:07 pm
But he still didn't serve in the Dutch army as a Korporal.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Hekko on March 07, 2013, 02:54:40 pm
Well, he was a 'Yankee' at Waterloo though :P
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Karth on March 07, 2013, 03:24:08 pm
Quote from: Archduke_Sven on March 07, 2013, 09:01:30 am
Quote from: Karth on March 07, 2013, 06:05:29 am
Oh wow im in Philadelphia right now, I know of a historical center in center city that has all these historical war records of people from Philly, maybe ill check there too for more info  :D

Philadelphia used to be a Swedish colony!

So everytime someone speaks of Philly' to me i always call it New Sweden, i am sure the Dutch do the same with NY.

No, don't even call it new sweden.. I know 0 Swedish people here and I've been here quite some time, and don't see any Swedish history portrayed in the city currently.  Call it Philadelphia, or them ghetto gangs will find you.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Menelaos on March 07, 2013, 03:28:11 pm
I'm pretty sure plenty of nationalities are to be found in a major conflicts. If it had not been for some political leaders, aid and Prehaps the states would have entered the war on either side.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: KillerMongoose on March 07, 2013, 03:34:28 pm
Lol alternte history novel idea - America enters the Napoleonic Wars, but on who's side?
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: TheBoberton on March 07, 2013, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: KillerMongoose on March 07, 2013, 03:34:28 pm
Lol alternte history novel idea - America enters the Napoleonic Wars, but on who's side?

That should be a bit obvious, given the Louisiana Purchase and the War of 1812. :P
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Archduke Sven on March 07, 2013, 04:18:35 pm
Quote from: Karth on March 07, 2013, 03:24:08 pm
Spoiler
Quote from: Archduke_Sven on March 07, 2013, 09:01:30 am
Quote from: Karth on March 07, 2013, 06:05:29 am
Oh wow im in Philadelphia right now, I know of a historical center in center city that has all these historical war records of people from Philly, maybe ill check there too for more info  :D

Philadelphia used to be a Swedish colony!

So everytime someone speaks of Philly' to me i always call it New Sweden, i am sure the Dutch do the same with NY.

No, don't even call it new sweden.. I know 0 Swedish people here and I've been here quite some time, and don't see any Swedish history portrayed in the city currently.  Call it Philadelphia, or them ghetto gangs will find you.
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Like, um did you actually think i call it New Sweden? Nobody even knows Sweden has had a colony ( Like ever ) and it hasn't been in Swedish hands for 350 years.

Twas just a heeestorical joke
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 04:54:22 pm
Quote from: TheBoberton on March 07, 2013, 03:38:26 pm
Quote from: KillerMongoose on March 07, 2013, 03:34:28 pm
Lol alternte history novel idea - America enters the Napoleonic Wars, but on who's side?

That should be a bit obvious, given the Louisiana Purchase and the War of 1812. :P

The US and France had been at war a few years before the Purchase, actually.

Now, for the translation:

Spoiler
Upper row, 1st box:
Fox, Martinus

Upper row, 2nd box:
Father: Joannes (Fox)
Mother: Ysebella Brouck
Born in: Philadelphia, America
On: 11 (month) 1793
Last place of residence: Philadelphia
At his arrival at the Corp =battalion: 5 feet and 5 thumbs high = 170 cm. [/center]

Upper row, 3rd box:
This box was used to describe how the recruit in question looked. If you want, I can give you a full translation, but for now:
Eyes: Blue
Haircolour: Brown

Bottom row, 1st box:
Signed up voluntarily for the duration of 6 years on the 1st of May, 1814.

Bottom row, 2nd box:
This box was used to describe the recruits past military history (if he had any)
7 years in Portugal =In the Portuguese army
Made Prisoner of War of the French
Deserted from Prison

Bottom row, 3rd Box:
This box was used to write down his rank and possibly pro- or demotions
Korporaal, 11 month 1814
Sergeant, 12 August 1819

Bottom row, 4rd Box:
This box was used to describes his past campaigns and battles
All the campaigns in Portugal and Spain Which I assume means he was there from around 1806 until 1813 when he was taken prisoner
1815 in France =Quatre-bras, Waterloo, and the following advance into France

Bottom row, 5th Box
This box is to describe how he left the battalion and when
7th of May 1820 with Passport =Discharge simply because his 6-year term has passed.
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Happy?
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 07, 2013, 04:57:12 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 04:54:22 pm
Deserted from Prison
ROFL  ;D
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Docm30 on March 07, 2013, 05:37:59 pm
I think that's called an escape.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: 5arge on March 07, 2013, 06:38:13 pm
Quote from: König on March 07, 2013, 04:57:12 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 04:54:22 pm
Deserted from Prison
ROFL  ;D
At the time, I think it was seen as ungentlemanly to try and escape. I think I learned that from Horatio Hornblower...so...yeah.  :-[
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 07, 2013, 06:40:43 pm
It's still a funny choice of wording though. ::)
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:23:02 pm
Quote from: 5arge on March 07, 2013, 06:38:13 pm
At the time, I think it was seen as ungentlemanly to try and escape. I think I learned that from Horatio Hornblower...so...yeah.  :-[

But this was just a ranker. And an American, and we all know Americans have no sense of honour. Right?

Quote from: Docm30 on March 07, 2013, 05:37:59 pm
I think that's called an escape.

Probably, but that's what they wrote down, litterally  ::)
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 07, 2013, 07:28:58 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:23:02 pm
But this was just a ranker. And an American, and we all know Americans have no sense of honour. Right?
Thou hast offended mine honour. Thus I challenge thee to a duel, sirrah.  >:(
What is thy weapon of choice?
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: TORN on March 07, 2013, 07:34:53 pm
Quote from: König on March 07, 2013, 07:28:58 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:23:02 pm
But this was just a ranker. And an American, and we all know Americans have no sense of honour. Right?
Thou hast offended mine honour. Thus I challenge thee to a duel, sirrah.  >:(
What is thy weapon of choice?
a book
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:39:49 pm
Quote from: König on March 07, 2013, 07:28:58 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:23:02 pm
But this was just a ranker. And an American, and we all know Americans have no sense of honour. Right?
Thou hast offended mine honour. Thus I challenge thee to a duel, sirrah.  >:(
What is thy weapon of choice?

I choose beer.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 07, 2013, 07:41:36 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:39:49 pm
Quote from: König on March 07, 2013, 07:28:58 pm
Quote from: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 07:23:02 pm
But this was just a ranker. And an American, and we all know Americans have no sense of honour. Right?
Thou hast offended mine honour. Thus I challenge thee to a duel, sirrah.  >:(
What is thy weapon of choice?

I choose beer.
I see what you tried to do there.


Well, I choose airsoft guns. So hah!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Pinball Wizard on March 07, 2013, 08:02:18 pm
Thanks for the translation!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 07, 2013, 08:24:47 pm
You're welcome!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: OGNValjean on March 07, 2013, 09:16:34 pm
Quote from: Archduke_Sven on March 07, 2013, 09:01:30 am
Quote from: Karth on March 07, 2013, 06:05:29 am
Oh wow im in Philadelphia right now, I know of a historical center in center city that has all these historical war records of people from Philly, maybe ill check there too for more info  :D

Philadelphia used to be a Swedish colony!

So everytime someone speaks of Philly' to me i always call it New Sweden, i am sure the Dutch do the same with NY.

Dutchess County For the Win!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Spearing on March 09, 2013, 12:15:03 am
The only reason the entire army didn't route was because that proud, patriotic 'Murican was there to help raise morale, with talks of Eagles and the good ol' Stars and Stripes. Waterloo, was in effect, won by not the guns of armies, but by the spirit of 'Murica.

Smoke on that.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 09, 2013, 05:26:46 pm
Quote from: Spearing on March 09, 2013, 12:15:03 am
The only reason the entire army didn't route was because that proud, patriotic 'Murican was there to help raise morale, with talks of Eagles and the good ol' Stars and Stripes. Waterloo, was in effect, won by not the guns of armies, but by the spirit of 'Murica.

Smoke on that.
I concur.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Kator Viridian on March 09, 2013, 05:47:05 pm
1,70 cm you say ... interesting ... don't you mean 1.7m or 170cm?
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Duuring on March 09, 2013, 06:08:13 pm
Quote from: Kator Viridian on March 09, 2013, 05:47:05 pm
1,70 cm you say ... interesting ... don't you mean 1.7m or 170cm?

No, he was actually the size of a bug. I don't make mistakes, Kator.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Kator Viridian on March 10, 2013, 12:17:16 am
Quote from: Duuring on March 09, 2013, 06:08:13 pm
Quote from: Kator Viridian on March 09, 2013, 05:47:05 pm
1,70 cm you say ... interesting ... don't you mean 1.7m or 170cm?

No, he was actually the size of a bug. I don't make mistakes, Kator.

Because he was crushed like one?
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Pinball Wizard on March 10, 2013, 12:24:06 am

Quote from: Duuring on March 09, 2013, 06:08:13 pm
Quote from: Kator Viridian on March 09, 2013, 05:47:05 pm
1,70 cm you say ... interesting ... don't you mean 1.7m or 170cm?

No, he was actually the size of a bug. I don't make mistakes, Kator.
So that's how he escaped jail!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: OPEN_FIRE on March 10, 2013, 11:00:16 pm
I wonder how they got him in jail in the first place!
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: Kator Viridian on March 11, 2013, 05:50:16 pm
Quote from: OPEN_FIRE on March 10, 2013, 11:00:16 pm
I wonder how they got him in jail in the first place!

Match box.
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 11, 2013, 06:06:42 pm
Quote from: Kator Viridian on March 11, 2013, 05:50:16 pm
Quote from: OPEN_FIRE on March 10, 2013, 11:00:16 pm
I wonder how they got him in jail in the first place!

Match box.
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Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: KillerMongoose on March 11, 2013, 06:11:50 pm
Something tells me his escape looked and sounded a little like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWRCsa1OO4k
Title: Re: A Yankee.... at Waterloo
Post by: König on March 11, 2013, 06:32:21 pm
Quote from: KillerMongoose on March 11, 2013, 06:11:50 pm
Something tells me his escape looked and sounded a little like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWRCsa1OO4k
Yep, definitely. 'Murica.