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Title: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Arkansan on August 03, 2015, 08:55:26 pm
Alright suckas. I'm looking to make another Siege map for the NaS Community and looking for ideas. I think I know the key elements a good siege map needs but would like an idea to build upon. I'd thought of a Normandy invasion/D-Day type map but boats and cannons don't seem to go together very well... so please limit the watery boat ideas XD
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Hinkel on August 03, 2015, 09:01:36 pm
A sandfort .. with ocean on one side.. Fort Wagner maybe? ;)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Jonny Powers on August 03, 2015, 09:31:51 pm
Well, despite the desire to not have any "watery boats", I always thought Point Lookout would be a real cool place to have a siege. It's also about 30 min south of me, so if you'd like me to get a wealth of pictures of the place while I'm still at home I can ;D
For now, here's a few links:
http://dnr2.maryland.gov/publiclands/Pages/southern/ptlookouthistory.aspx
https://www.visitstmarysmd.com/activities-attractions/special-themes-interests/civil-war/
http://www.wadehamptoncamp.org/hist-p-plo.html

Perhaps you can make the map scenario start at landing?

Other than that, I know that, while "watery" as well, the nighttime assault of Fort Pickens on Santa Rosa Island down in Pensacola, FL, would fit a siege bill. Some links here as well:
http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-santa-rosa-island.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santa_Rosa_Island
http://www.nps.gov/guis/planyourvisit/fort-pickens.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Pickens#1858_fire
http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/photos/military/picken/picken.htm

Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on August 03, 2015, 09:43:59 pm
A sandfort .. with ocean on one side.. Fort Wagner maybe? ;)
Make fort Wagner and I will die of happiness.  ;D I'm gonna reenact the movie 'Glory' so much there.  :P
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Arkansan on August 03, 2015, 10:03:18 pm
A sandfort .. with ocean on one side.. Fort Wagner maybe? ;)
Make fort Wagner and I will die of happiness.  ;D I'm gonna reenact the movie 'Glory' so much there.  :P
Looks like I have a movie to watch! lol

Best image I could find on the fort.. Looks like it would be over pretty fast once there were any break in the wall.
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I'm looking for something that will allow the defenders to hold in layers or with a choke point or 2.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: ~Midnight~ on August 10, 2015, 06:05:02 am
Make it.. and we will see
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: ManlyMan on August 11, 2015, 02:55:46 am
I remember a while ago someone mentioned something about Fort Adams, Rhode Island, which is one of the biggest forts in the US. Although it never saw combat in the American Civil War and wasn't even finished at the time it'd still be a pretty cool map to see.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Sethja8 on August 11, 2015, 07:24:28 am
Looks like it would be over pretty fast once there were any break in the wall.

I'm looking for something that will allow the defenders to hold in layers or with a choke point or 2.

if you're gonna keep away from wagner i think i'll give it a shot  ::)

in my opinion a good NaS siege shouldn't consist of towering walls or large forts like NW's do though you were talking about choke points and not towering walls and one of the specialties of wagner is that it will probably be a pretty aggressive siege

I remember a while ago someone mentioned something about Fort Adams, Rhode Island, which is one of the biggest forts in the US. Although it never saw combat in the American Civil War and wasn't even finished at the time it'd still be a pretty cool map to see.

off topic - "fortress of nightmares" is a fun idea to make an attraction during the spooky times of the year  :)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Siege Map???
Post by: Arkansan on August 14, 2015, 11:04:10 am
if you're gonna keep away from wagner i think i'll give it a shot  ::)
Yeah, go ahead. I haven't touched anything since I remade the Alamo. Though someone edited my Hampton Roads, I had to put back to the original on the DA server. Someone decided a cannon on the only bridge that is also destructable was a good idea, along with a ton of spikes and dirt around the flag that any good sapper would build there anyway...

in my opinion a good NaS siege shouldn't consist of towering walls or large forts like NW's do though you were talking about choke points and not towering walls and one of the specialties of wagner is that it will probably be a pretty aggressive siege
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the same star fort prop everyone uses over and over. You'll see a bunch of lazily made custom maps because people don't want to be creative and spend the time on them. A good map takes weeks of editing. Cannons can also ruin a map if not done right. Whether they can hit a spawn point or glitch through certain walls. Thats why most of these boat maps are almost unplayable because boats full of people get blown up left and right and boats don't respawn fast enough.

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Also keep in mind, sieges are almost always lost by defenders in real life. No one would sacrifice their army if they thought they would lose. Sometimes they would just starve them out. Successfully defending on siege should be almost like a survival mode. Make it as far as you can and inflict the most damage on attackers. Victories should be few and far between for defenders.