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Title: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 16, 2015, 10:23:25 pm
so seeing as folks want me to attempt to in there words "Save Na1" *dermatic i know* then i need a plan and i have one, lets start with some basic math. if say a dozen players agree to tell two friends each about NA1 and those two friends of each player get on we have 22 players, now to put this in a larger scale if i get 30 volunteers to get volunteers to get volunteers we would, in theory have a chain reaction with hundreds of people learning of this server, and possibly getting on, so with that in mind i need at least 10-20 volunteers willing to if nothing else try to get there friends/regiments/regiment buddy's, on this server, then, lads, and only then. will we possibly have a chance of reviving NA1. is this ridicules? sure. is it stupid? possibly. am i being overly dermatic trying to get attention? hell. if i wanted attention i wouldn't be here. so if anyone's  actually interested in this then post here, otherwise remain silent.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: MackCW on July 16, 2015, 10:26:48 pm
Best post 2015 imo
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 16, 2015, 10:28:02 pm
this will either work really really well or it wont work at all. so..yeah,
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AeroNinja on July 16, 2015, 10:30:00 pm
Well Niroc i hope for you it can be revived had good moments on EU 1 but now the server is just more than dead
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Gared on July 16, 2015, 10:34:24 pm
Ehh..no
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 16, 2015, 10:34:53 pm
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Well Niroc i hope for you it can be revived had good moments on EU 1 but now the server is just more than dead
     aye, well if you want to prevent another EU1 start trying to get folks on NA1   *edit* if i say don't post unless interested it means don't post things like ehh no here. -.-
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Peppers on July 16, 2015, 10:56:32 pm
Niroc please, NA_1 Need more people like you!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: KillerShark on July 16, 2015, 11:06:14 pm
It will work with newer people. I Agree that NA1 should be revived because that's a way better pub server than 63e seige. However, older members don't like NA1 and will probably not assist in this plan.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 16, 2015, 11:21:04 pm
agreed, however those that do assist will have in some way or another influence over the newer folks and can thus get more volunteers.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Gamboji on July 16, 2015, 11:47:52 pm
Niroc is the hero the NA community needs.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 16, 2015, 11:51:31 pm
hero? hell no lad, i just have a plan. also this song suits my plan quite well  https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=109&v=pBaW7c0I9MM
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: StevenChilton on July 16, 2015, 11:57:55 pm
How to revive NA1?

Make me an admin.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: DaMonkey on July 16, 2015, 11:58:06 pm
If we really want to keep NA1 alive, then there are a few critical problems that need adressing. The biggest problem the server has is that its hardware must be pretty bad, because if it's not rubberbanding it's crashing. Every time the server has a population in excess of 30-40, the server is guaranteed to crash, it has never once not crashed beyond these numbers. Further, the server takes a long time to get back up after the crash, so by the time it is up all of those people have either closed the game or moved to other servers.

The server either needs an upgrade or we need a new service for which to host it through.

Additionally, while I am not certain, I am sure that EU1 is on better hardware, despite the server not having a large population on it for at least a year now.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 17, 2015, 12:11:25 am
well thats something we cant do nothing about, but if we dont get more folks on they wont get a more stable version of the server up,
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Getty on July 17, 2015, 03:26:03 am
well thats something we cant do nothing about, but if we dont get more folks on they wont get a more stable version of the server up,
Niroc we need you to really think about this. NA1 needs your help!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 17, 2015, 04:57:54 am
well thats something we cant do nothing about, but if we dont get more folks on they wont get a more stable version of the server up,
Niroc we need you to really think about this. NA1 needs your help!
    you know Getty i never thought of you as one for the dramatics but i get ye point here.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 17, 2015, 05:15:50 am
Just so you lot know as a FYI i am quite convinced that 99% of what you lot are saying is just trolling/yanking my chain, but i am going along with it for now seeing that the server population is so low, so if this is just a big ol prank might as well  wrap it up now lads.  ;)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: TheZach_Attack on July 17, 2015, 05:28:03 am
This is fantastic.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 17, 2015, 06:41:06 am
:p I hope so, at least its a hilarious chain of events that got kicked off because i was some how talked into trying to organize aid for a server that is probs already dead.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Commissar Jdf on July 17, 2015, 07:36:24 am
Use QIG

Acquire server pop
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Superbad on July 17, 2015, 07:53:46 am
This is the community... hmm...
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Christopher on July 17, 2015, 08:16:46 am
If we really want to keep NA1 alive, then there are a few critical problems that need adressing. The biggest problem the server has is that its hardware must be pretty bad, because if it's not rubberbanding it's crashing. Every time the server has a population in excess of 30-40, the server is guaranteed to crash, it has never once not crashed beyond these numbers. Further, the server takes a long time to get back up after the crash, so by the time it is up all of those people have either closed the game or moved to other servers.

The server either needs an upgrade or we need a new service for which to host it through.
This ^

I used to play on NA_1 a lot more until it seemed to rubber band and lag anytime it got populated :'(

I remember (back before I was in the 63e about a month ago) when I hopped on occasionally to play on the server, around 20-30 63e guys would come there for their recruitment days and play on it, within minutes the server would crash, most of the time the server didn't even have a hundred players yet.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Gamboji on July 17, 2015, 08:23:22 am
:p I hope so, at least its a hilarious chain of events that got kicked off because i was some how talked into trying to organize aid for a server that is probs already dead.

Niroc, you have some serious trust issues. Can't you tell everyone here really cares about you and NA1? You're the only person here who is capable of solving this mind boggling mystery.

I never expected you to be the * DERMATIC * type, Niroc.

P.S. I think your extremely well thought out calculations are a bit off.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 17, 2015, 11:07:04 am
:p I hope so, at least its a hilarious chain of events that got kicked off because i was some how talked into trying to organize aid for a server that is probs already dead.

Niroc, you have some serious trust issues. Can't you tell everyone here really cares about you and NA1? You're the only person here who is capable of solving this mind boggling mystery.

I never expected you to be the * DERMATIC * type, Niroc.

P.S. I think your extremely well thought out calculations are a bit off.
   tbh i belive you lads, i really do, but my questions remain, A. is this a issue that can be fixed by me? B are half these lads yanking my chain or being honest? and C even if A and B are true or false i  am still not seeing how i can even start with the processes.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 17, 2015, 11:21:11 am
Listen lads, if you really want NA1 back on its feet you need to do more then talk about it, i, or rather the server, needs players. if you know anyone, and i don't care if there a regiment a friend a random player you talk to, try to get them on NA1, if this is going to work we cant waste time and effort trying to figure out whos yanking whos chain. to be clear,  i may or may not be the sod you believe me to be, but i am not Jesus, i cant pull a hundred players from my sleeve, so if its just going to be me doing this it will take awhile, and results may or may not come out of it, thus if you lot really want to aid the server, do what im already doing, get volunteers, form a line of battle and get in that server, thats the only way we will be able to bring NA1 back, at least partly, word from Thunderstormer is that the server owner knows of the lag issues, but has no idea what if anything he intends to do about it. the easiest way for me to put this in perspective is to put this in terms of a battle, and we, lads, are on the frontlines.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: MackCW on July 17, 2015, 03:18:59 pm
If we really want to keep NA1 alive, then there are a few critical problems that need adressing. The biggest problem the server has is that its hardware must be pretty bad, because if it's not rubberbanding it's crashing. Every time the server has a population in excess of 30-40, the server is guaranteed to crash, it has never once not crashed beyond these numbers. Further, the server takes a long time to get back up after the crash, so by the time it is up all of those people have either closed the game or moved to other servers.

The server either needs an upgrade or we need a new service for which to host it through.
This ^

I used to play on NA_1 a lot more until it seemed to rubber band and lag anytime it got populated :'(

I remember (back before I was in the 63e about a month ago) when I hopped on occasionally to play on the server, around 20-30 63e guys would come there for their recruitment days and play on it, within minutes the server would crash, most of the time the server didn't even have a hundred players yet.

The lag has been an issue since 2013.

I asked Vincenzo about this years ago. He said that in order to change server boxes (I swear this server box was created by Jesus of Nazareth in his woodshop), we need to find a NA server company that has a tax ID and is registered, because he uses the server as a tax write off for his business. Many companies host the box themselves and can afford to... FSE apparently cannot.

So if anyone knows of any company that has a Tax ID let me know... I have looked around for quite some time and haven't found one.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Rutger Müller on July 17, 2015, 09:49:32 pm
Niroc please, NA_1 Need more people like you!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Kovyjack on July 18, 2015, 12:51:45 am
Many companies host the box themselves and can afford to... FSE apparently cannot.

FSE's money is strained after the failed BCoF Project.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Getty on July 18, 2015, 05:46:39 am
Many companies host the box themselves and can afford to... FSE apparently cannot.

FSE's money is strained after the failed BCoF Project.
We need Niroc to help market for BCoF!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 18, 2015, 06:57:59 am
Getty stop with the sarcasm, you are not fooling anyone at this point. lol.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Getty on July 18, 2015, 08:25:17 am
Getty stop with the sarcasm, you are not fooling anyone at this point. lol.
I don't know why you think I am being sarcastic. I am being totally serious, nobody else holds sway with the average pub player like you.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on July 18, 2015, 11:32:12 pm
heh..i can think of a few who might be able to match me, but aye, i take back what i said getty.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: jj-2fa on July 28, 2015, 04:22:01 am
Just bring your reg into it after a linebattle.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: BearofNW on July 31, 2015, 05:42:14 am
getty being a total ass hat
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on August 03, 2015, 01:39:24 am
hmm...what odd chain of events have i set off??? this is entertaining.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: JohannBrahms on August 03, 2015, 03:30:59 am
Getty stop with the sarcasm, you are not fooling anyone at this point. lol.
I don't know why you think I am being sarcastic. I am being totally serious, nobody else holds sway with the average pub player like you.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Grubbis on August 03, 2015, 10:42:14 pm
Hello
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Maple™ on August 03, 2015, 11:40:50 pm
When the creator doesn't care enough to fix the lag issue on his server, there isn't a lot we can do.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: TheGarbagePicker on September 03, 2015, 11:39:40 pm
well thats something we cant do nothing about, but if we dont get more folks on they wont get a more stable version of the server up,
Niroc we need you to really think about this. NA1 needs your help!

Getty holds truth in his words, Niroc, you are the prophet this server needs for its resurrection.  I cannot think of anyone better suited for bringing this server back on its feet!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: TheRedRedcoat on September 03, 2015, 11:43:02 pm
Well Niroc i hope for you it can be revived had good moments on EU 1 but now the server is just more than dead

is EU1 even up anymore?
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: White_Gandalf on September 04, 2015, 06:16:17 am
well thats something we cant do nothing about, but if we dont get more folks on they wont get a more stable version of the server up,
Niroc we need you to really think about this. NA1 needs your help!

Getty holds truth in his words, Niroc, you are the prophet this server needs for its resurrection.  I cannot think of anyone better suited for bringing this server back on its feet!
Niroc of Nazareth is the savior we need.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Vlad_the_Inhaler on September 05, 2015, 06:24:48 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkJILL77Qss
[close]
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Olafson on September 05, 2015, 07:34:45 pm
You do know that we replaced the server box for NA1 recently?

Because it is now lagg free.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Shadow on September 06, 2015, 02:04:53 am
It is most certainly better than what it used to be - huge props to yall for that. :)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: [15th]Harvain on September 09, 2015, 02:26:31 am
Well just get people on, majority of randoms go where the higher pops are, its the way of the world lol
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: EdwardC on September 09, 2015, 02:53:57 am
this thread






(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fb0x__TXPQGY%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&hash=272b8c7eeb9367d8a4c1261c2ffb67f2a1c2e081)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: TheGarbagePicker on September 10, 2015, 10:05:20 pm
You do know that we replaced the server box for NA1 recently?

Because it is now lagg free.

I will not have any of this nonsense! Our prayers to Niroc have been heard and he saved the server!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on September 17, 2015, 04:55:31 am
As a general note here i havent actually done anything yet, just put the idea in ya lots heads to see what would happen and now you lot are claiming i saved the server. gg life.  8)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Audiate on September 17, 2015, 05:18:54 am
so seeing as folks want me to attempt to in there words "Save Na1" *dermatic i know* then i need a plan and i have one, lets start with some basic math. if say a dozen players agree to tell two friends each about NA1 and those two friends of each player get on we have 22 players, now to put this in a larger scale if i get 30 volunteers to get volunteers to get volunteers we would, in theory have a chain reaction with hundreds of people learning of this server, and possibly getting on, so with that in mind i need at least 10-20 volunteers willing to if nothing else try to get there friends/regiments/regiment buddy's, on this server, then, lads, and only then. will we possibly have a chance of reviving NA1. is this ridicules? sure. is it stupid? possibly. am i being overly dermatic trying to get attention? hell. if i wanted attention i wouldn't be here. so if anyone's  actually interested in this then post here, otherwise remain silent.

You have autism! I can hear it in your voyoice!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 17, 2015, 08:27:14 pm
Well hey we could always up the speed on NA1 to fastest so people actually consider playing on it instead of literally any other server.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Phailur on September 17, 2015, 08:29:33 pm
why don't we revive MM
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 17, 2015, 08:38:53 pm
why don't we revive MM

I read your name as phallus.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: TheGarbagePicker on September 17, 2015, 09:06:31 pm
As a general note here i havent actually done anything yet, just put the idea in ya lots heads to see what would happen and now you lot are claiming i saved the server. gg life.  8)

Niroc your presence alone is saving NA1.  Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, you are the hero this server does not deserve.  When you were an admin you were the guerrilla fighter in the mist, doing the work that no ordinary admin would do.  You were on such a different level than the other admins that you were outsourcing them and they feared this so they revoked your adminship.  The admins are the corrupt officials leading this once beautiful server to the depths of hell.  Only you and you alone can save this server. Please save the server, Niroc the Messiah of NA1!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: junedragon on September 17, 2015, 09:41:46 pm
As a general note here i havent actually done anything yet, just put the idea in ya lots heads to see what would happen and now you lot are claiming i saved the server. gg life.  8)

Niroc your presence alone is saving NA1.  Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, you are the hero this server does not deserve.  When you were an admin you were the guerrilla fighter in the mist, doing the work that no ordinary admin would do.  You were on such a different level than the other admins that you were outsourcing them and they feared this so they revoked your adminship.  The admins are the corrupt officials leading this once beautiful server to the depths of hell.  Only you and you alone can save this server. Please save the server, Niroc the Messiah of NA1!

Palms sweaty
Arms spaghetti
its falling out of my pockets already
Na1 bribe money

*shuffles out to x files theme*

(V)(o,,,,o)(V) Woop woop woop woop woop woop woop
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Tharan on September 18, 2015, 12:37:55 am
NA is like the unloved sibling.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Batraan on September 18, 2015, 03:00:29 am
Could always start having me do this again.

Spoiler
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=25080.0

We must rally back to NA1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBaW7c0I9MM

SPREAD THE WORD
[close]

Though, I need a list of people who could be persuaded. Most people jsut sent back messages that were along the lines of "I don't play anymore" or "Idiot."
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: TheRedRedcoat on September 18, 2015, 08:33:09 pm
Well hey we could always up the speed on NA1 to fastest so people actually consider playing on it instead of literally any other server.

Or you could get good and play on medium.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 19, 2015, 12:08:09 am
Well hey we could always up the speed on NA1 to fastest so people actually consider playing on it instead of literally any other server.

Or you could get good and play on medium.

yeah i will get right on slowing down my reflexes
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: junedragon on September 19, 2015, 12:15:35 am
Well hey we could always up the speed on NA1 to fastest so people actually consider playing on it instead of literally any other server.

Or you could get good and play on medium.

yeah i will get right on slowing down my reflexes

Well theres your solution
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lcbo.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Flcbo%2Fproducts%2F137117.jpg%2Fjcr%3Acontent%2Frenditions%2Fcq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg&hash=c9d18569156accbc7232770fcdd87ff550201488)
[close]
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on September 19, 2015, 08:46:54 am
Well hey we could always up the speed on NA1 to fastest so people actually consider playing on it instead of literally any other server.

Or you could get good and play on medium.

yeah i will get right on slowing down my reflexes

Well theres your solution
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lcbo.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Flcbo%2Fproducts%2F137117.jpg%2Fjcr%3Acontent%2Frenditions%2Fcq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg&hash=c9d18569156accbc7232770fcdd87ff550201488)
[close]

Well I guess you would have to be drunk to play on medium speed so ye. #rekt

But no seriously, a overwhelming majority of the long time players in NA prefer fastest, so why is it still medium q.q

Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Sevren on November 15, 2015, 05:33:08 am
"Let's make NA1 great again" - Niroc 2k16
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: ItsAlex on January 09, 2016, 10:56:49 pm
lol
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Bauer16 on January 09, 2016, 11:09:12 pm
Well hey we could always up the speed on NA1 to fastest so people actually consider playing on it instead of literally any other server.

I've asked about this many times on the server, and it's always shot down.  When I was with an EU regiment where most servers are supposedly on medium, even their servers where on fastest.  It would be a nice change.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Kirigaya on March 21, 2016, 09:53:18 pm
I think the biggest reason the server stays on medium is that the fastest setting is that it is, as forementioned, well like by the veterans, and for a reason. The medium setting is much more conducive to those of us who are new or to prefer shooting the meleeing plebs. Increasing the melee speed to fastest would be a nice change, and for the newer players, even the medium speed, more often than not, offers little help to compensate for lack of blocking, etc.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: MapleSyrupSmugler on March 23, 2016, 08:43:49 pm
Niroc please, NA_1 Need more people like you!
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: JohannBrahms on March 27, 2016, 01:48:53 pm
It's gonna stay dead if it stays on medium, I refuse to play on that shitty setting.  ;)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 17, 2016, 05:55:20 am
i had no idea this thread was still alive  :o
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Peppers on April 18, 2016, 03:25:20 am
NIROC YOU NEED TO BRING BACK NA_1
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on April 18, 2016, 05:50:42 am
NIROC YOU NEED TO BRING BACK NA_1
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Thunderstormer on April 18, 2016, 11:18:17 am
Talk to Vince if you want the melee speed changed.  I was told to leave it medium, and will continue to do so.   




and if memory serves, the weapons were  never balanced for the other combat speeds outside medium.  While one can play on their practically bayonet only server and be content with the balance of said weapon, na1 caters to a much larger crowd and variety of weapons.  So do keep that in mind along with your average pub.(2 of the 3 main pub NA servers are medium as well. so we aren't the only ones)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 19, 2016, 10:41:43 am
Funny seeing you here thunder still a admin these days or have things moved on more then I thought?
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Thunderstormer on April 19, 2016, 12:20:17 pm
Funny seeing you here thunder still a admin these days or have things moved on more then I thought?
... ... ...

Yes, i am still an admin/senior admin for the official servers.(these are not the only server i have admin on either)
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 19, 2016, 04:02:56 pm
Funny seeing you here thunder still a admin these days or have things moved on more then I thought?
... ... ...

Yes, i am still an admin/senior admin for the official servers.(these are not the only server i have admin on either)
   

Well thats good to hear. anyways back on topic.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: usnavy30 on April 19, 2016, 04:20:16 pm
NA1 events = NA1 revival no?

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=31092.0
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 19, 2016, 04:21:49 pm
i guess? like im not sure how to organise any NA1 events, but then again there already could be events. no flipn idea
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Thunderstormer on April 19, 2016, 10:12:02 pm
i guess? like im not sure how to organise any NA1 events, but then again there already could be events. no flipn idea

the mini events happen more as a spur of the moment but should someone want to organize one on a certain date, they can.  get enough people and a good time and it may happen.

as for the na1 linebattle.  It will only happen if people want to do it.  You are welcome to encourage people to go, bring your own group, or just come and join the pub line. 
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on April 20, 2016, 07:17:20 pm
Talk to Vince if you want the melee speed changed.  I was told to leave it medium, and will continue to do so.   




and if memory serves, the weapons were  never balanced for the other combat speeds outside medium.  While one can play on their practically bayonet only server and be content with the balance of said weapon, na1 caters to a much larger crowd and variety of weapons.  So do keep that in mind along with your average pub.(2 of the 3 main pub NA servers are medium as well. so we aren't the only ones)

Weapon balance is completely fine on any speed

What you talking but willis?

Also 2 of the main 3 might be medium, but NA1 has seen much better days and needs to set itself above the rest once more
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Thunderstormer on April 20, 2016, 09:01:01 pm
Talk to Vince if you want the melee speed changed.  I was told to leave it medium, and will continue to do so.   




and if memory serves, the weapons were  never balanced for the other combat speeds outside medium.  While one can play on their practically bayonet only server and be content with the balance of said weapon, na1 caters to a much larger crowd and variety of weapons.  So do keep that in mind along with your average pub.(2 of the 3 main pub NA servers are medium as well. so we aren't the only ones)

Weapon balance is completely fine on any speed

What you talking but willis?

Also 2 of the main 3 might be medium, but NA1 has seen much better days and needs to set itself above the rest once more

Disagree and i'm not going to get into that any further here.

I already consider NA1 to be of better quality over the other 2. I could go on why i think so but i wont.   There are nights NA1 equals or passes the other servers in population.  There are nights the game overall is just not populated. There are nights where an Eu server has the most pop out of all of them.  Na1 may not be consistently the most populated server as it once was, but it is still active.  It still gets a good chunk of the population at night.   The main advantage the other servers have is how noob friendly they are.  Theoretically one could make NA1 super noob friendly but i don think that is what you are going for.  I will say that since the siege server was brought back, it has hurt the population for both battle servers.(not going to get into if this is a good thing or not.)  Granter there are nights the siege server is dead.

Less people play the game in a causal manner compared to a few years ago,  more competition for the pop, and the pop goes where the pop is.  So servers with more people will get more people.  That has been the pattern of NW for a long time.

anyways, like i said, Vince said keep it at medium a long time ago.   If you want it changed, talk to him about it.   No point of trying to convince me to change it. 
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on April 20, 2016, 09:39:38 pm
Not really sure how to contact him

And I am not entirely sure I want to.

Bottom line is I care very little for NA1 as it is on medium speed. Id rather not get in 5 minute long fights just because some guy has a basic idea of how to block. I would definitely go there more often if it was fastest, as would a good majority of the veterans (which is a growing % of the population of NW). But it aint my job to make NA1 better or more populated. Ill just go to groupfighting to get my NW itch out then move on.

If you really cared for the server and wanted to improve the pop there, youd change the speed. The casuals players who medium speed is aimed for wont care that you change the speed, hell id be surprised if they even noticed. However, youd get more pop from the veterans. More pop = more players = better large scale battles = better server= happier players = this thread would be locked.

Its quite simple. Whether you want to improve the server is up to you, I could care less. I dont like playing cavalry, so there are plenty of other options as far as servers go to where I can play.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Thunderstormer on April 20, 2016, 10:36:17 pm
Not really sure how to contact him

And I am not entirely sure I want to.



Pm or steam.  PM is the better route.  Not sure who he adds on steam nowadays, 

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1

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Bottom line is I care very little for NA1 as it is on medium speed. Id rather not get in 5 minute long fights just because some guy has a basic idea of how to block.

Sounds like a very severe hyperbole.  Unless someone is good at melee, you wont be seeing many if any fights over 30 seconds let alone a min.  and the fights that last that long wont be one of those simple block and attack fights.   There will be chambers, holds, kicks, whatever.

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I would definitely go there more often if it was fastest, as would a good majority of the veterans (which is a growing % of the population of NW). But it aint my job to make NA1 better or more populated. Ill just go to groupfighting to get my NW itch out then move on.
 

I doubt this.  From a players perspective,if a bunch of these veterans  are the ones i see teamwounding and teamkilling intentionally, or just trolling on the gf server on a consistent basis, idk if i would want them on NA1.  Just another person that will cause trouble for everyone else.  Not to mention NA1 plays very differently compared to a gf server.(not even talking about melee speed here)  I have my doubts all these vets would come flocking to NA1 because of the melee speed alone.  Not to mention the other rules they would probably have trouble following.

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If you really cared for the server and wanted to improve the pop there, youd change the speed. The casuals players who medium speed is aimed for wont care that you change the speed, hell id be surprised if they even noticed. However, youd get more pop from the veterans. More pop = more players = better large scale battles = better server= happier players = this thread would be locked.

Its quite simple. Whether you want to improve the server is up to you, I could care less. I dont like playing cavalry, so there are plenty of other options as far as servers go to where I can play.

"If you really cared for the server"  lol.  Thanks for the laugh.    Making a comment like that makes me doubt the rest of your post is even being serious.  Either troll bait or ignorance, and i cant tell which one yet.

I am sure the casuals would notice when the experienced players slaughter them wholesale faster than ever.(which they get killed quickly enough as is)   Changing melee speed just sounds like a "buff" to the veteran players. 

and like i said above, i have my doubts "vets"(those who don't already play na1 frequently) will fly to na1 in any large and consistent manner to make a meaningful impact on the average server population.(and follow the rules at that)  one may even argue it would hurt the population. 

Anyways, gl convincing Vince to change it. 
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 21, 2016, 02:12:46 am
just a question for you lot. why is this still going?! like i posted this July last year and this is still going today...why?  anyway perhaps we could try to get a event going during the weekend? i have a group that could get on sometime during the evenings. but thats probs for a different thread.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:42 am
just a question for you lot. why is this still going?! like i posted this July last year and this is still going today...why?  anyway perhaps we could try to get a event going during the weekend? i have a group that could get on sometime during the evenings. but thats probs for a different thread.

somebody bumped the thread


and Thunder im trying to tell you how to improve the pop, and I would say I know alot more about the vets than you do. Up to you what you do with that information.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: BabyJesus on April 21, 2016, 03:10:26 am
did you read what thunder posted apoc? he said he doesnt control the rules and you have to contact vince about it. so complaining here doesnt do anything

personally, i dont think changing the melee speed will increase the pop like you say.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on April 21, 2016, 06:26:46 am
did you read what thunder posted apoc? he said he doesnt control the rules and you have to contact vince about it. so complaining here doesnt do anything

personally, i dont think changing the melee speed will increase the pop like you say.

I did read what he posted.

What he is saying is he doesnt care enough to make a change when a change is needed to try and instigate change himself.

Its not that he cant instigate change, its just that he doesnt want to.

Believe me, if he were to ask Vince to change the speed it would be alot more convincing than me (a guy hes likely never met or even heard of) asked him to. That is of course unless he/you are saying he is not capable of asking Vince, then I would question just how broken the system is.

Though I think a change in speed would help the pop. Might just be me, but I actively avoid medium speed servers when possible.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Thunderstormer on April 21, 2016, 07:17:45 am
just a question for you lot. why is this still going?! like i posted this July last year and this is still going today...why?  anyway perhaps we could try to get a event going during the weekend? i have a group that could get on sometime during the evenings. but thats probs for a different thread.
Every few months someone decides to post something here concerning NA1.  I could of locked it, but i don't see the point in make a new thread, especially when the discussion is already here.

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he said he doesnt control the rules and you have to contact vince about it. so complaining here doesnt do anything

basically this.



and it is always important to keep the pubs in mind.  Over the years, i seen some proposals that sound good for the person/group making them, but poorly considered your average person.  Just something to think about when you talk to vince. 

ah, a post as i was about to post.

did you read what thunder posted apoc? he said he doesnt control the rules and you have to contact vince about it. so complaining here doesnt do anything

personally, i dont think changing the melee speed will increase the pop like you say.

I did read what he posted.

What he is saying is he doesnt care enough to make a change when a change is needed to try and instigate change himself.

Its not that he cant instigate change, its just that he doesnt want to.

Believe me, if he were to ask Vince to change the speed it would be alot more convincing than me (a guy hes likely never met or even heard of) asked him to. That is of course unless he/you are saying he is not capable of asking Vince, then I would question just how broken the system is.

Though I think a change in speed would help the pop. Might just be me, but I actively avoid medium speed servers when possible.

What i am reading here is that you think i should go to bat for you, because you "speak" for a majority of all those veteran players out there.  From my perspective as a player(and not the role i take as an admin), idc for a change to fastest.    At the same time, if Vince changed it, i wouldn't really care too much either.(i would care how it would effect your common pub)   I already gave my thoughts on what would happen if it went to fastest.   

You have done a poor job trying to convince me to support your view on it and it seems others here agree that it wouldn't effect the overall pop in really noticeable way.   

Server rule changes have always gone to Deo/Vince.(tho idk what happened to deo.  event rule changes come to me)  and this change would also have to go to him.  surely, if there were all these veteran players out there who would want to play on NA1 but cant because of the melee speed, you could get most of them to message Vince in a non trolling/polite manner.  perhaps with a better argument for your case you may get your way.   I am not going to do your work or be your errand/messager boy. 
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on April 21, 2016, 04:32:10 pm
Aint askin ya to do my work for me. It aint my work in the first place is all im saying. Im not gonna be crying as I play on groupfighting instead of NA1. Im just saying I would definitely go more often if it was on fastest, and on previous pages others have said the same. Now you may disagree - and thats alright, you are entitled to your opinion. However, as I said before, I will just continue as usual and just not play on NA1. Simple as that. If you are fine with the status quo, you will just continue to play on NA1, and thats fine. Whatever. I was just saying how if you wanted to potentially improve the server how it could be done.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 22, 2016, 08:41:11 am
Just to chime in my two cents on the whole melee speed. I as a veteran of nw don't really notice the melee speed difference. I think that a lot of it is just learning to block feint etc in any combat situation. Be it group fighting line battles or the old pleb skirmish slog. just my two cents  :P
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on April 22, 2016, 09:59:33 am
Just to chime in my two cents on the whole melee speed. I as a veteran of nw don't really notice the melee speed difference. I think that a lot of it is just learning to block feint etc in any combat situation. Be it group fighting line battles or the old pleb skirmish slog. just my two cents  :P

Again, I don't think people who havent yet devoted time and effort learning the intricacies of melee on a competitive level will notice all that much.

Not saying you don't know how to melee well, just saying I don't really see you in tournaments or groupfighting. And I highly doubt people with even less experience than you will notice.
Title: Re: A Plan To Revive NA1?
Post by: Niroc on April 23, 2016, 12:50:27 am
i don't tend to play group fighting or go to tournaments so that's why you don't see me there, but I'm far from inexperienced on NW, but thats going off topic. in anycase. i think a possible way to revive NA 1 if it indeed needs reviveing is to just keep it alive, people will come back around to it if it can outlive the other servers.   


Quick edit in order to avoid double posting: Im going to lock this topic soon seeing as things have gone over into what melee speed is better or what have ya, unless things get back on topic, just a fyi.