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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Events: NA => Community => Competitive NA Events/Tournaments => Topic started by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 27, 2015, 02:19:33 pm

Title: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 27, 2015, 02:19:33 pm
So basically, this is my idea for the 3rd NW Duel League. Itll be a helluva lot different, and function a helluva alot different, and I think itll be a helluva lot better.

Heres the google doc because I typed it up there and I am too lazy to type it up/paste it here.

(WARNING: I drafted it up when I was really tired. Prepare yourself for typos/errors ye frikin grammar nazis.)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kU5ITBQVPMhslu0H_aAIGH-VptKlbrhrcFIxVH4XWqg/pub

If it is popular enough, I will post the official thread for the tournament and open signups in the next few days.

Now im going to bed. Please post what you think.
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: KillerShark on May 27, 2015, 02:21:59 pm
Community Name: KillerShark
Steam Name: You got me
Regiment: 18th

Put me in coach
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: MackCW on May 27, 2015, 02:22:11 pm
I think this would be fun given the recent lack of activity for some of the older regiments. As I told you in Steam, I doubt any person cares about prizes. For many, the epeen is enough.

Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Theodin on May 27, 2015, 02:30:56 pm
What Mack said. And i'm tired of the same duel tournies and 5v5 matches, i'm glad 18th are doing creative tournies.
One question- so  if I get third in the gold division, it means I can't go up a division AND won't be participating in the playoffs, correct?
And in the playoff phase, the people who make there way up to the top in the Masters group without being brought down means they win it all, correct? OR will it be like, all 6 divisions get a winner? How do you win?
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Herishey on May 27, 2015, 02:50:29 pm
What Mack said. And i'm tired of the same duel tournies and 5v5 matches, i'm glad 18th are doing creative tournies.
One question- so  if I get third in the gold division, it means I can't go up a division AND won't be participating in the playoffs, correct?
And in the playoff phase, the people who make there way up to the top in the Masters group without being brought down means they win it all, correct? OR will it be like, all 6 divisions get a winner? How do you win?
If you are going to do it with multiple leagues then you should probably do it like I did in the [FG]Duel League and have League A, B and C for the first season instead of League 1, 2, 3 as the leagues skill groups will be very mixed for the first season.So basically the top third of each league go to the league 1, the middle third league 2 and the bottom third league 3, this would balance them out (more than any other way quickly).
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Tammo on May 27, 2015, 08:44:07 pm
+1
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Grimsight on May 27, 2015, 09:49:28 pm
helluva
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Chev on May 27, 2015, 11:10:53 pm
Needs lots of commitment o.o
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: csderp on May 27, 2015, 11:13:14 pm
helluva
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Superbad on May 27, 2015, 11:13:35 pm
I'd sign up...
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 27, 2015, 11:50:27 pm
One question- so  if I get third in the gold division, it means I can't go up a division AND won't be participating in the playoffs, correct?

1.That is correct. If you are 3rd in Gold division, you cant go up or participate in the playoffs.

And in the playoff phase, the people who make there way up to the top in the Masters group without being brought down means they win it all, correct? OR will it be like, all 6 divisions get a winner? How do you win?

2. Alright I think you misunderstood how this works. Its kind of like playoffs in baseball:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.printyourbrackets.com%2Fmlb-playoff-results%2F2013-mlb-playoff-bracket-results.jpg&hash=f486d6ba26ce0cf7349d9ea8745f21428aac5177)

Imagine that bracket, except remove the bracket on the right side. The playoffs are designed so that the lower division you are, the harder it is to win, but still allowing them to compete. If a Bronze makes it all the way to the top and faces the Masters player without being brought down, they dont automatically win it all, they have to beat the Masters player as well. A sample bracket would be like the bracket above, except the Indians and the Rays would be #1 and 2 of Bronze, the Red Sox being the winner of #1 vs. 2 for Silver, the Tigers being the winner of #1 and 2 for Gold. You feel?

As for each division getting a winner, I guess I could do that. But honestly, a players goal in this league should not be "The Gold Division Champion"(as it still means there are roughly 18 players better than you that could have won it as well),but it should be to get promoted to Masters Division THEN win their league. Now for the "How do you win?" or "Who wins?" I guess there are two winners: one for the regular season, one for the post season. The regular season winner is the dude who is #1 in Masters, and the post season winner is the winner of the playoffs.
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 27, 2015, 11:54:58 pm
Needs lots of commitment o.o

Ye. I dont plan to shoulder all the commitment alone, however. I would ideally like to hunt down alot of people I trust to help me organize it, and eventually hand the competition as a whole off to somebody else so I can finally compete in it myself.
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: ~NickCole~ on May 28, 2015, 12:01:14 am
Seems Cool
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 28, 2015, 12:01:49 am
What Mack said. And i'm tired of the same duel tournies and 5v5 matches, i'm glad 18th are doing creative tournies.
One question- so  if I get third in the gold division, it means I can't go up a division AND won't be participating in the playoffs, correct?
And in the playoff phase, the people who make there way up to the top in the Masters group without being brought down means they win it all, correct? OR will it be like, all 6 divisions get a winner? How do you win?
If you are going to do it with multiple leagues then you should probably do it like I did in the [FG]Duel League and have League A, B and C for the first season instead of League 1, 2, 3 as the leagues skill groups will be very mixed for the first season.So basically the top third of each league go to the league 1, the middle third league 2 and the bottom third league 3, this would balance them out (more than any other way quickly).

Thanks for the suggestion!

Yeah that does sound like a pretty solid way to sort people. I guess I could throw 6 people randomly into the 6 divisions, and at the end of the season, I put all the #1s in Masters, #2s in Diamond, #3s in plat etc etc, and maybe do a post-season knockout tournament for the Masters division to get a regular season winner (or just not have one at all).

However, I kind of want to keep the league interesting right off the bat, so I can keep the momentum and get it off the ground, and I dont think having RNG based groups would get the job done (RNG groups have been done before). Because of this, I would guestimate and place players in leagues based on my own opinion, and nobody elses just to make sure all the QQ and rage is focused on me. Maybe id even make players agree to not qq in about their placement when signing up, just so theres no qq in the first place.
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: TheZach_Attack on May 28, 2015, 12:02:55 am
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Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 28, 2015, 12:05:32 am
Community Name: KillerShark
Steam Name: You got me
Regiment: 18th

Put me in coach

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Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Herishey on May 28, 2015, 12:16:31 pm
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What Mack said. And i'm tired of the same duel tournies and 5v5 matches, i'm glad 18th are doing creative tournies.
One question- so  if I get third in the gold division, it means I can't go up a division AND won't be participating in the playoffs, correct?
And in the playoff phase, the people who make there way up to the top in the Masters group without being brought down means they win it all, correct? OR will it be like, all 6 divisions get a winner? How do you win?
If you are going to do it with multiple leagues then you should probably do it like I did in the [FG]Duel League and have League A, B and C for the first season instead of League 1, 2, 3 as the leagues skill groups will be very mixed for the first season.So basically the top third of each league go to the league 1, the middle third league 2 and the bottom third league 3, this would balance them out (more than any other way quickly).

Thanks for the suggestion!

Yeah that does sound like a pretty solid way to sort people. I guess I could throw 6 people randomly into the 6 divisions, and at the end of the season, I put all the #1s in Masters, #2s in Diamond, #3s in plat etc etc, and maybe do a post-season knockout tournament for the Masters division to get a regular season winner (or just not have one at all).

However, I kind of want to keep the league interesting right off the bat, so I can keep the momentum and get it off the ground, and I dont think having RNG based groups would get the job done (RNG groups have been done before). Because of this, I would guestimate and place players in leagues based on my own opinion, and nobody elses just to make sure all the QQ and rage is focused on me. Maybe id even make players agree to not qq in about their placement when signing up, just so theres no qq in the first place.
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Of course you can do that, but people QQ enough when they lose, even when they win on this mod, imagine how much they will QQ if they feel you put them in the "wrong" league, I personally couldn't be fucked with that. Getting people to sign up saying they won't be won't work, people will always QQ and nothing will stop it. ^^

Good luck if you do it anyway. ;)
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 28, 2015, 10:58:11 pm
Spoiler
What Mack said. And i'm tired of the same duel tournies and 5v5 matches, i'm glad 18th are doing creative tournies.
One question- so  if I get third in the gold division, it means I can't go up a division AND won't be participating in the playoffs, correct?
And in the playoff phase, the people who make there way up to the top in the Masters group without being brought down means they win it all, correct? OR will it be like, all 6 divisions get a winner? How do you win?
If you are going to do it with multiple leagues then you should probably do it like I did in the [FG]Duel League and have League A, B and C for the first season instead of League 1, 2, 3 as the leagues skill groups will be very mixed for the first season.So basically the top third of each league go to the league 1, the middle third league 2 and the bottom third league 3, this would balance them out (more than any other way quickly).

Thanks for the suggestion!

Yeah that does sound like a pretty solid way to sort people. I guess I could throw 6 people randomly into the 6 divisions, and at the end of the season, I put all the #1s in Masters, #2s in Diamond, #3s in plat etc etc, and maybe do a post-season knockout tournament for the Masters division to get a regular season winner (or just not have one at all).

However, I kind of want to keep the league interesting right off the bat, so I can keep the momentum and get it off the ground, and I dont think having RNG based groups would get the job done (RNG groups have been done before). Because of this, I would guestimate and place players in leagues based on my own opinion, and nobody elses just to make sure all the QQ and rage is focused on me. Maybe id even make players agree to not qq in about their placement when signing up, just so theres no qq in the first place.
Of course you can do that, but people QQ enough when they lose, even when they win on this mod, imagine how much they will QQ if they feel you put them in the "wrong" league, I personally couldn't be fucked with that. Getting people to sign up saying they won't be won't work, people will always QQ and nothing will stop it. ^^

Good luck if you do it anyway. ;)
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Yeah true.

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Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: Kovyjack on May 29, 2015, 08:29:55 am
Looks like Gluk is going to initiate this before you.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: NW Duel League strikes back? O.o
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on May 29, 2015, 09:01:22 am
Looks like I asked him 2.