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Title: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:04:06 am
If you're like me (if that is the case, contact me immediately as my identity's been stolen) then you love the Roman Empire, its history, its military and its culture. Post your favorite Roman anything.

Things include:
Books, movies, public figures, military figures, wars, poems, mythology, or general events.

For me, its really hard to pick between the Second Punic War or the era of great social upheaval between the Social War and the Reign of Augustus.

ROME LOVE NOW
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Killington on June 09, 2014, 04:08:36 am
I remember reading this thing called Seven Imperia or something, it had Roman-ish people in it. 10/10
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:09:53 am
I heard the guy who wrote that is a narcissistic tool bag who frequents the anuses of children
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Nipplestockings on June 09, 2014, 04:11:44 am
I remember reading this thing called Seven Imperia or something, it had Roman-ish people in it. 10/10

Yeah who was that written by? JK Rowling or something.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:13:44 am
I remember reading this thing called Seven Imperia or something, it had Roman-ish people in it. 10/10

Yeah who was that written by? JK Rowling or something.
I heard it's like Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, the Bible and Mein Kampf had a gangbang of words
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 09, 2014, 04:22:07 am
I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:23:52 am
I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
I have a love-hate relationship with Cicero
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 09, 2014, 04:26:06 am
I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
I have a love-hate relationship with Cicero

I'm kinda like that with all Romans.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:27:36 am
I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
I have a love-hate relationship with Cicero

I'm kinda like that with all Romans.
Very true because you realize what their doing is fucking awesome but then you're like "oh death"

Except Sulla. Sulla's a cunt in my professional opinion
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 09, 2014, 04:31:37 am
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I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
I have a love-hate relationship with Cicero

I'm kinda like that with all Romans.
Very true because you realize what their doing is fucking awesome but then you're like "oh death"

Except Sulla. Sulla's a cunt in my professional opinion
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We do live in an age where much of there ideas have influenced us, yet are partially despised (like dictatorship, etc) by us. I think it's the same with most of history
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:34:36 am
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I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
I have a love-hate relationship with Cicero

I'm kinda like that with all Romans.
Very true because you realize what their doing is fucking awesome but then you're like "oh death"

Except Sulla. Sulla's a cunt in my professional opinion
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We do live in an age where much of there ideas have influenced us, yet are partially despised (like dictatorship, etc) by us. I think it's the same with most of history
Yeah, no doubt but it isn't the dictatorship that bothers me. He gave that up before he died. It's the fact he gives more power to the Senate and makes it harder for ambitious men to move around the system.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 09, 2014, 04:37:17 am
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I'm currently taking a Philosophy class at a University. It's mostly based on the Greeks but we are studying about the Romans too. On that topic I think my favorite Roman would be Cicero.
I have a love-hate relationship with Cicero

I'm kinda like that with all Romans.
Very true because you realize what their doing is fucking awesome but then you're like "oh death"

Except Sulla. Sulla's a cunt in my professional opinion
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We do live in an age where much of there ideas have influenced us, yet are partially despised (like dictatorship, etc) by us. I think it's the same with most of history
Yeah, no doubt but it isn't the dictatorship that bothers me. He gave that up before he died. It's the fact he gives more power to the Senate and makes it harder for ambitious men to move around the system.

Probably because of old age "Conservatism" became his policy and that he feared over ambitious men would take over the Republic. 
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:38:31 am
Which they did anyway  :P  ;)

Hail Caesar, we who are about to die, salute you!
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 09, 2014, 04:40:33 am
Which they did anyway  :P  ;)

Hail Caesar, we who are about to die, salute you!

Lol true :P

Ambitious men with such ability like Cæsar are unstoppable. 
Now on to Cæsar, who can't like him? :P
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 04:41:21 am
Pompey for one :P
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 09, 2014, 04:43:07 am
Pompey for one :P

Hahaha.

I've ordered "commentarii de bello gallico" have you read it?
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 06:16:58 pm
Pompey for one :P

Hahaha.

I've ordered "commentarii de bello gallico" have you read it?
I have it, haven't read it yet
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: joer5835 on June 09, 2014, 07:10:50 pm
If you want to read Roman philosophy, I can recommend Quintilianus (Quintillian in plain English) or Seneca.

I especially like Quintillianus, he writes primarily about how to decept and convince people of something through well written speeches.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Shredder on June 09, 2014, 07:19:07 pm
I've read Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. Am I cool yet?
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Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 09, 2014, 08:48:59 pm
I've read Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. Am I cool yet?
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All the sweg is urs now

I loved Julius Caesar
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 10, 2014, 02:42:49 am
If you want to read Roman philosophy, I can recommend Quintilianus (Quintillian in plain English) or Seneca.

I especially like Quintillianus, he writes primarily about how to decept and convince people of something through well written speeches.

As Napoleon said, "History is the true philosophy."
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 10, 2014, 03:28:43 am
Because I can. I'm listing off the books I own about Rome :3

The Spartacus War by Barry Strauss

The War With Hannibal by Livy

Ghosts of Cannae

Commentaries of the Gallic Wars, The Civil War by Caesar

Speeches from Cicero by Cicero

The Legions of Rome (history of every Roman legion)

The Fall of the Roman Empire: A History of Rome and the Barbarians

The Roman Army by Adrian Goldsworthy (name is around that)

Spartacus by Howard Fast

Battles of the Ancient World (name is around that)

Books I really want:
The Masters of Rome series by a Scottish woman
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 10, 2014, 04:10:52 am
This isn't Roman but technically the Byzantine Empire was "Roman," so i'll post it anyway :P

Have any of you read "The Alexiad"? By Anna Komnenos.

It's seriously amazing.  I really recommend it.

It's about Alexious Komnenos when takes over the empire with his Coup d'état, his military campaigns against the Turks and the Westerners.  His involvement with the Crusades etc.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Nipplestockings on June 10, 2014, 04:14:17 am
This isn't Roman but technically the Byzantine Empire was "Roman," so i'll post it anyway :P

Have any of you read "The Alexiad"? By Anna Komnenos.

It's seriously amazing.  I really recommend it.

I've been meaning to for quite a while - it looks extremely interesting. But eh, I wouldn't really lump it in with Roman stuff. It was written around 1148, and The Byzantine empire was hardly Roman by that point. Everyone spoke Greek, and there were so many other ethnicities and cultures infused within the empire that it had lost many aspects of "Latinness" that had defined it centuries earlier.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 10, 2014, 04:19:28 am
This isn't Roman but technically the Byzantine Empire was "Roman," so i'll post it anyway :P

Have any of you read "The Alexiad"? By Anna Komnenos.

It's seriously amazing.  I really recommend it.

I've been meaning to for quite a while - it looks extremely interesting. But eh, I wouldn't really lump it in with Roman stuff. It was written around 1148, and The Byzantine empire was hardly Roman by that point. Everyone spoke Greek, and there were so many other ethnicities and cultures infused within the empire that it had lost many aspects of "Latinness" that had defined it centuries earlier.

I know, I know, I know. It's just something I wanted to bring up.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: joer5835 on June 10, 2014, 01:20:26 pm
I wanted to start getting into I, Claudius. Does anybody know if it's any good? (I'm talking about the books)
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Allasaphore on June 10, 2014, 03:38:35 pm
Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 11, 2014, 01:21:40 am
Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.

I'm a Christian, read the Bible many times, technically most of them were Jews. Paul was a Jew, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. All jews.  Some might have became Romans, but they were Jews
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Killington on June 11, 2014, 01:49:39 am
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso[/YouTube]
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 11, 2014, 02:44:46 am
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso[/YouTube]
+1
My favorite teacher ever showed me that video. We both actively called a teacher a cunt for cutting Roman history from the West Euro curriculum. In her words, it wasn't relevant and a waste of time. 
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: joer5835 on June 11, 2014, 03:07:26 pm
Roman history not relevant? A WASTE OF TIME!?

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Please, kill her.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Crunk on June 11, 2014, 03:27:05 pm
There is never enough Roman Empire.

Howe, you may very well have made the best thread ever.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Allasaphore on June 11, 2014, 06:21:57 pm
Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.

I'm a Christian, read the Bible many times, technically most of them were Jews. Paul was a Jew, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. All jews.  Some might have became Romans, but they were Jews

Note the part where I said that they were Roman citizens, or "citizens of the Roman Empire". It is important to note that we don't know who wrote the Gospels of Luke, Mark, and Matthew, where John was a resident (but not citizen) of the Roman Empire. Paul was a Roman Citizen by virtue of his birth in the free city of Tarsus. It is important to note that being a Jew (of the Jewish religion) does not preclude an individual from being a citizen of the Roman Empire.

The most that can be said of John and the authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that those individuals were likely residents of the Roman state, though we don't know if they were citizens or not.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 12, 2014, 01:21:22 am
Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.

I'm a Christian, read the Bible many times, technically most of them were Jews. Paul was a Jew, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. All jews.  Some might have became Romans, but they were Jews

Note the part where I said that they were Roman citizens, or "citizens of the Roman Empire". It is important to note that we don't know who wrote the Gospels of Luke, Mark, and Matthew, where John was a resident (but not citizen) of the Roman Empire. Paul was a Roman Citizen by virtue of his birth in the free city of Tarsus. It is important to note that being a Jew (of the Jewish religion) does not preclude an individual from being a citizen of the Roman Empire.

The most that can be said of John and the authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that those individuals were likely residents of the Roman state, though we don't know if they were citizens or not.

I'm sorry but we do know who wrote Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. OK maybe they did LIVE in Rome but by heart, blood, and choice they weren't Roman.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colbac on June 12, 2014, 02:41:27 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Elder

"After I die, I'd rather people ask why I have no monument, then why I have one."
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 12, 2014, 04:23:33 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Elder

"After I die, I'd rather people ask why I have no monument, then why I have one."
The Catos are a tad on the cunt side of the spectrum

soz
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 12, 2014, 05:02:33 am
Titus Annius Milo  8)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Annius_Milo
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Menelaos on June 12, 2014, 05:28:45 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art_in_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum

Was expecting this when I read the title.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Nipplestockings on June 12, 2014, 05:33:47 am
So I was searching through my Google Docs and I found something from two years ago that I wrote while obscenely intoxicated.

Here goes, I'm sorry for what you are about to read.

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Owen Thompson
The eleventh day of the month of the great ruler Octavian

The Glorious and Legendary Legacy of the Classical Roman Republic and Empire, and an Ode to the Great Lord Zeus; May He Pillage My Anus Into Oblivion For All of Eternity

Rome was founded on the day Romulus raped Remus and subsequently wiped his name from history. Rome immediately became so great that anyone who wasn’t part of the pure Roman race who attempted to enter the realm would immediately disintegrate into dust and be teleported into Zeus’s bedchamber, where he would be raped so viciously that his anus would create a rift in time that would send a shock through every dimension. Anyone who insulted Rome in its glory would be hanged from the head of Zeus’s thousand mile long penis, and would have to bear the horrors of Zeus’s ejactulation process, which a included a jet liquid gold and plasma so hot that it could melt through any universe’s core.

The Romans created glorious aqueducts and paved roads so that they could ship their magical semen to all over the world. This semen was used as a tool of ethnic cleansing, and every time a baby was concepted of an unclean barbarian race, the father’s penis would explode and the mother would be flooded with twenty gallons of holy roman semen, commissioned and approved by the great lord Zeus himself.

The Romans also destroyed the filthy and puny Rajpoonani civilization, but nobody cared because they were always retarded.


Great Lord Zeus’s Hyme:
O’ Lord Zeus
Please fuck me until I am dead
I am forever promised in faith to your
Great Cock
Please fuck me until I plead for forgiveness
I could never ask
For something so wonderful and glorious
As to be penetrated by your great
fifty mile long dick
I love you Zeus, I love you Zeus
I would love to fucked by Zeus
Even though he may have too many other cases on his hands
Of unholy sinners who needed to repent their sins by having their assholes
widened so far that another universe was created
Fuck FUCK FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
ZEUS
FUCK
ME

Amen.

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Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Allasaphore on June 12, 2014, 07:06:16 am
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Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.

I'm a Christian, read the Bible many times, technically most of them were Jews. Paul was a Jew, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. All jews.  Some might have became Romans, but they were Jews

Note the part where I said that they were Roman citizens, or "citizens of the Roman Empire". It is important to note that we don't know who wrote the Gospels of Luke, Mark, and Matthew, where John was a resident (but not citizen) of the Roman Empire. Paul was a Roman Citizen by virtue of his birth in the free city of Tarsus. It is important to note that being a Jew (of the Jewish religion) does not preclude an individual from being a citizen of the Roman Empire.

The most that can be said of John and the authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that those individuals were likely residents of the Roman state, though we don't know if they were citizens or not.

I'm sorry but we do know who wrote Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. OK maybe they did LIVE in Rome but by heart, blood, and choice they weren't Roman.
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I never said that they lived in Rome. I said that they could have had (and Paul certainly did have) Roman citizenship. Do you mean "Roman" in terms of "from the city of Rome" or "a citizen of the Roman Empire", or "directly descended from the original Romans after the fall of the Etrusci"? I would also like you to state specifically who wrote the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, who contemporary scholars acknowledge uncertain authorship to.

I do not mean "the general tradition is that person x wrote it", what I want you to do is explain your certainty to the academic world on who the authors of those Gospels actually are.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Antoine de Lasalle on June 12, 2014, 07:44:35 am
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Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.

I'm a Christian, read the Bible many times, technically most of them were Jews. Paul was a Jew, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. All jews.  Some might have became Romans, but they were Jews

Note the part where I said that they were Roman citizens, or "citizens of the Roman Empire". It is important to note that we don't know who wrote the Gospels of Luke, Mark, and Matthew, where John was a resident (but not citizen) of the Roman Empire. Paul was a Roman Citizen by virtue of his birth in the free city of Tarsus. It is important to note that being a Jew (of the Jewish religion) does not preclude an individual from being a citizen of the Roman Empire.

The most that can be said of John and the authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that those individuals were likely residents of the Roman state, though we don't know if they were citizens or not.

I'm sorry but we do know who wrote Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. OK maybe they did LIVE in Rome but by heart, blood, and choice they weren't Roman.
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I never said that they lived in Rome. I said that they could have had (and Paul certainly did have) Roman citizenship. Do you mean "Roman" in terms of "from the city of Rome" or "a citizen of the Roman Empire", or "directly descended from the original Romans after the fall of the Etrusci"? I would also like you to state specifically who wrote the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, who contemporary scholars acknowledge uncertain authorship to.

I do not mean "the general tradition is that person x wrote it", what I want you to do is explain your certainty to the academic world on who the authors of those Gospels actually are.

We do know that John Mark wrote the gospel of Mark.  Luke was Luke, although highly disputed, but why name a book after a different author?  Matthew was by Matthew. 

And what i'm saying is, they maybe were "Citizen," but I would never classify these Jews/Greeks as "Romans." If you want to talk about them make a Jewish/Greek Thread.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Allasaphore on June 12, 2014, 07:27:32 pm
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Well, the New Testament was written primarily by Roman citizens (if my memory is correct, anyway).

On a non-theological note, everybody loves their stoicism. Stoicism is great, with Marcus Aurelius and Seneca writing interesting books/essays.

I'm a Christian, read the Bible many times, technically most of them were Jews. Paul was a Jew, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. All jews.  Some might have became Romans, but they were Jews

Note the part where I said that they were Roman citizens, or "citizens of the Roman Empire". It is important to note that we don't know who wrote the Gospels of Luke, Mark, and Matthew, where John was a resident (but not citizen) of the Roman Empire. Paul was a Roman Citizen by virtue of his birth in the free city of Tarsus. It is important to note that being a Jew (of the Jewish religion) does not preclude an individual from being a citizen of the Roman Empire.

The most that can be said of John and the authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that those individuals were likely residents of the Roman state, though we don't know if they were citizens or not.

I'm sorry but we do know who wrote Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. OK maybe they did LIVE in Rome but by heart, blood, and choice they weren't Roman.
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I never said that they lived in Rome. I said that they could have had (and Paul certainly did have) Roman citizenship. Do you mean "Roman" in terms of "from the city of Rome" or "a citizen of the Roman Empire", or "directly descended from the original Romans after the fall of the Etrusci"? I would also like you to state specifically who wrote the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, who contemporary scholars acknowledge uncertain authorship to.

I do not mean "the general tradition is that person x wrote it", what I want you to do is explain your certainty to the academic world on who the authors of those Gospels actually are.

We do know that John Mark wrote the gospel of Mark.  Luke was Luke, although highly disputed, but why name a book after a different author?  Matthew was by Matthew. 

And what i'm saying is, they maybe were "Citizen," but I would never classify these Jews/Greeks as "Romans." If you want to talk about them make a Jewish/Greek Thread.

Gospel of Mark's authorship, according to wikipedia and wiki sources:
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Most modern scholars reject the tradition which ascribes it to Mark the Evangelist, the companion of Peter, and regard it as the work of an unknown author working with various sources including collections of miracle stories, controversy stories, parables, and a passion narrative.[3]
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Gospel of Matthew's authorship, according to wikipedia and wiki sources:
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The anonymous author was probably a highly educated Jew, intimately familiar with the technical aspects of Jewish law, and the disciple Matthew was probably honored within his circle.[4] The author drew on three main sources to compose his gospel: the Gospel of Mark; the hypothetical collection of sayings known as the Q source; and material unique to his own community, called "Special Matthew", or the M source.[5]
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Gospel of Luke's authorship, according to wikipedia and wiki sources:
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The author is traditionally identified as Luke the Evangelist.[7] Modern scholarship generally rejects the view that Luke was the original author,[8] with the most that could be said being that Lukan authorship is "not impossible".[9] While the traditional view that Luke authored the gospel is still often put forward, a number of possible contradictions between Acts and Paul's letters lead many scholars to dispute this account,[10][11] and for some the author remains unknown.[5] Biblical Scholars are in wide agreement that the author of the Gospel of Luke also wrote the Acts of the Apostles.[12] Many believe that these two books originally constituted a two-volume work,[13][14][15] which scholars refer to as Luke-Acts.[16]
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Gospel of John's authorship, according to wikipedia and wiki sources:
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Chapter 21 states that the book derives from the testimony of the "disciple whom Jesus loved" and early church tradition identified him as John the Apostle, one of Jesus' Twelve Apostles. The gospel is closely related in style and content to the three surviving Epistles of John such that commentators treat the four books,[1] along with the Book of Revelation, as a single body of Johannine literature. According to most modern scholars, however, the apostle John was not the author of any of these books.[2]
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Your claims about authorship are uncertain, particularly because the early church ascribed the Gospels to different traditions (ie written by certain Apostles, etc). The only possible author known to have written a gospel is John, for the similarities in writing between gospel and his epistles. "Luke" may be unidentifiable, but we do know that whoever authored the Gospel of Luke also authored the Acts of the Apostles.

As for classifying people as "Romans", would you stop beating around the bush and actually establish a definition of "Roman"? Do you mean "coming from the city of Rome", "a citizen of the Roman Empire", a "resident of the Roman Empire", or some other definition? In short, what do you mean by "ROMAN"? (the bold is present in the hope that you actually answer the question, instead of ignoring it as you have previously done).
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Crunk on June 12, 2014, 07:33:11 pm
Damn thats a lot of religion.

Back on topic: What are your thoughts on the Tetrarchy? Yay or nay and why?
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Allasaphore on June 12, 2014, 07:43:06 pm
The story of the Battle of the Milvian Bridge is interesting, particularly the painting of chi-rho on the shields of Constantine's soldiers.

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Relevant as a major battle in the Civil War between Constantine and Maxentius, resulting in Constantine's rule over the Roman Empire after the Tetrarchy (I assume you're talking about the Tetrarchy 293AD-313AD).
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Crunk on June 12, 2014, 08:24:45 pm
Correct.

I always found Diocletian and his policies interesting, but... Was the Roman Empire too large to be ruled by one man, or was the decline due to bad Emperors? In the end, the Tetrarchy was a good idea, but doomed to fail by the ambition of the Tetrarchs themselves.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Allasaphore on June 12, 2014, 08:29:48 pm
Correct.

I always found Diocletian and his policies interesting, but... Was the Roman Empire too large to be ruled by one man, or was the decline due to bad Emperors? In the end, the Tetrarchy was a good idea, but doomed to fail by the ambition of the Tetrarchs themselves.

Agreed. I feel that Rome at the time of the Tetrarchy was not too large to be ruled by one man, but it was too large to be done so effectively.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 14, 2014, 07:40:53 pm
So I was searching through my Google Docs and I found something from two years ago that I wrote while obscenely intoxicated.

Here goes, I'm sorry for what you are about to read.

Spoiler
Owen Thompson
The eleventh day of the month of the great ruler Octavian

The Glorious and Legendary Legacy of the Classical Roman Republic and Empire, and an Ode to the Great Lord Zeus; May He Pillage My Anus Into Oblivion For All of Eternity

Rome was founded on the day Romulus raped Remus and subsequently wiped his name from history. Rome immediately became so great that anyone who wasn’t part of the pure Roman race who attempted to enter the realm would immediately disintegrate into dust and be teleported into Zeus’s bedchamber, where he would be raped so viciously that his anus would create a rift in time that would send a shock through every dimension. Anyone who insulted Rome in its glory would be hanged from the head of Zeus’s thousand mile long penis, and would have to bear the horrors of Zeus’s ejactulation process, which a included a jet liquid gold and plasma so hot that it could melt through any universe’s core.

The Romans created glorious aqueducts and paved roads so that they could ship their magical semen to all over the world. This semen was used as a tool of ethnic cleansing, and every time a baby was concepted of an unclean barbarian race, the father’s penis would explode and the mother would be flooded with twenty gallons of holy roman semen, commissioned and approved by the great lord Zeus himself.

The Romans also destroyed the filthy and puny Rajpoonani civilization, but nobody cared because they were always retarded.


Great Lord Zeus’s Hyme:
O’ Lord Zeus
Please fuck me until I am dead
I am forever promised in faith to your
Great Cock
Please fuck me until I plead for forgiveness
I could never ask
For something so wonderful and glorious
As to be penetrated by your great
fifty mile long dick
I love you Zeus, I love you Zeus
I would love to fucked by Zeus
Even though he may have too many other cases on his hands
Of unholy sinners who needed to repent their sins by having their assholes
widened so far that another universe was created
Fuck FUCK FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
ZEUS
FUCK
ME

Amen.

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More poetry plzplox
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 21, 2014, 02:40:56 am
reading Livy's stuffs ermahgerd so Latin much Aeneas wow
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Bruin on July 02, 2014, 07:48:38 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa69.g.akamai.net%2Fn%2F69%2F10688%2Fv1%2Fimg5.allocine.fr%2Facmedia%2Fmedias%2Fnmedia%2F18%2F36%2F00%2F91%2F18445256.jpg&hash=c9b1233460337122ae52bb5441e605cf31ae5a74)

The helmets. :D

...and the rest of their uniforms.

Officers dressed the best.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.larp.com%2Flegioxx%2Fcenturiondrawing.jpg&hash=64145719c51171f90c76acc8186e18a020227376)
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Friedrich on July 02, 2014, 09:35:29 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa69.g.akamai.net%2Fn%2F69%2F10688%2Fv1%2Fimg5.allocine.fr%2Facmedia%2Fmedias%2Fnmedia%2F18%2F36%2F00%2F91%2F18445256.jpg&hash=c9b1233460337122ae52bb5441e605cf31ae5a74)
This galea, this lorica hamata, the scutum ... ahhhhh, so-much-wrong (but I LOVED the series, better than GoT). This is Hollywood-bs, not roman stuff...



This is the real late republican roman militaria stuff you're looking for:
caesarean period, late republican (1st century BC) legionary (after Peter Connolly)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F108.imagebam.com%2Ftemporarylink%2FPBY3qlDcdtFrMpwkNRujTg%2F1404327784%2F23587%2F235866418%2F001.jpg&hash=b950c091033a5d350bbe35331cf7b02e7a05698d)
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Galea (helmet), Montefortino type & some finds
(https://www.kingofswords.co.nz/img/items/Armour/Helmets_987_full.jpg)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2FDIAP_00305a%2520Mfortino%2520Bologna.JPG&hash=8306bfab48532edd25976fecc339a9ffff7318db)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Ff2005-montefortino.jpg&hash=c8fa40c1679a88147288782070edb9ffc27e3528)
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Scutum (shield), oval, after the find at Fayum, Egypt
(https://www.armamentaria.com/store/images/repub1.JPG)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roman-reenactor.com%2Fwpimages%2Fwpdc139196_05_06.jpg&hash=f3047e7e8e6b116b71d80789871d7019cfaaa12d)
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lorica hamata (chain mail), couldn't find one from 1st century BC, this is early 1st century AD (augustean period), but very similar to the late republican ones
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.strato.de%2FWebRoot%2FStore15%2FShops%2F15502242%2F496B%2F975C%2F8F1B%2F8FB5%2F4CD7%2FC0A8%2F28B8%2F6A58%2Fhamata.jpg&hash=ad886b75ab8649761b86915eab7fd31b6761201b)
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Gladius (sword), Hispaniensis type, some finds & typology of roman swords (from Hispaniensis up to Pompeii type)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mambri.com%2FCosasArmillum%2Ffinal-web2.jpg&hash=7bc56e7ba07dd9cd59cb64ea78ce7ba2edf6ff44)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mambri.com%2FCosasArmillum%2Fgrafico-espadas-web.jpg&hash=ffcc86efbb45e7bfa3d9d910519d348b77eadb4f)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.museodelarmablanca.com%2Fgladius_files%2Fgla18.jpg&hash=c91b089338af10b7fd63f8c91c948c9ab31b5fb5)
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Pilum (the roman javelin) and some finds
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dematterudolf.com%2FDematteRudolf%2Froemwaffen%2Fpiluma.jpg&hash=1f6ef1fa79c3c3e2ff8693ed27b2dfbc73fb0c7e)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Fspear-pilum-oberaden-mcb.gif&hash=1355ff264ac260edab95062fb2728db8723105ba)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Fpilum-late.jpg&hash=302b412bf946f1650fcfb0ee3e53f02428197aab)
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Pugio (dagger), with finds
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lederturm.de%2Fartikel%2F34-03-00-01%2F34-03-00-01.jpg&hash=ba80076ed27e32f05076e9d2b9a3ae299f31dec9)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2F112005-pugio-late.jpg&hash=c90c69f2f52699a3b44125305458a4f38eee8f86)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Fpugio-blades-republ-mcb.gif&hash=823f891c5e7b8aa02167287bb475c18692955973)
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Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on July 02, 2014, 11:58:39 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa69.g.akamai.net%2Fn%2F69%2F10688%2Fv1%2Fimg5.allocine.fr%2Facmedia%2Fmedias%2Fnmedia%2F18%2F36%2F00%2F91%2F18445256.jpg&hash=c9b1233460337122ae52bb5441e605cf31ae5a74)
This galea, this lorica hamata, the scutum ... ahhhhh, so-much-wrong (but I LOVED the series, better than GoT). This is Hollywood-bs, not roman stuff...



This is the real late republican roman militaria stuff you're looking for:
caesarean period, late republican (1st century BC) legionary (after Peter Connolly)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F108.imagebam.com%2Ftemporarylink%2FPBY3qlDcdtFrMpwkNRujTg%2F1404327784%2F23587%2F235866418%2F001.jpg&hash=b950c091033a5d350bbe35331cf7b02e7a05698d)
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Galea (helmet), Montefortino type & some finds
(https://www.kingofswords.co.nz/img/items/Armour/Helmets_987_full.jpg)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2FDIAP_00305a%2520Mfortino%2520Bologna.JPG&hash=8306bfab48532edd25976fecc339a9ffff7318db)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Ff2005-montefortino.jpg&hash=c8fa40c1679a88147288782070edb9ffc27e3528)
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Scutum (shield), oval, after the find at Fayum, Egypt
(https://www.armamentaria.com/store/images/repub1.JPG)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roman-reenactor.com%2Fwpimages%2Fwpdc139196_05_06.jpg&hash=f3047e7e8e6b116b71d80789871d7019cfaaa12d)
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lorica hamata (chain mail), couldn't find one from 1st century BC, this is early 1st century AD (augustean period), but very similar to the late republican ones
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.strato.de%2FWebRoot%2FStore15%2FShops%2F15502242%2F496B%2F975C%2F8F1B%2F8FB5%2F4CD7%2FC0A8%2F28B8%2F6A58%2Fhamata.jpg&hash=ad886b75ab8649761b86915eab7fd31b6761201b)
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Gladius (sword), Hispaniensis type, some finds & typology of roman swords (from Hispaniensis up to Pompeii type)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mambri.com%2FCosasArmillum%2Ffinal-web2.jpg&hash=7bc56e7ba07dd9cd59cb64ea78ce7ba2edf6ff44)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mambri.com%2FCosasArmillum%2Fgrafico-espadas-web.jpg&hash=ffcc86efbb45e7bfa3d9d910519d348b77eadb4f)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.museodelarmablanca.com%2Fgladius_files%2Fgla18.jpg&hash=c91b089338af10b7fd63f8c91c948c9ab31b5fb5)
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Pilum (the roman javelin) and some finds
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dematterudolf.com%2FDematteRudolf%2Froemwaffen%2Fpiluma.jpg&hash=1f6ef1fa79c3c3e2ff8693ed27b2dfbc73fb0c7e)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Fspear-pilum-oberaden-mcb.gif&hash=1355ff264ac260edab95062fb2728db8723105ba)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Fpilum-late.jpg&hash=302b412bf946f1650fcfb0ee3e53f02428197aab)
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Pugio (dagger), with finds
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lederturm.de%2Fartikel%2F34-03-00-01%2F34-03-00-01.jpg&hash=ba80076ed27e32f05076e9d2b9a3ae299f31dec9)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2F112005-pugio-late.jpg&hash=c90c69f2f52699a3b44125305458a4f38eee8f86)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romancoins.info%2Fpugio-blades-republ-mcb.gif&hash=823f891c5e7b8aa02167287bb475c18692955973)
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I love HBOs Rome but I mean, of all the Roman movies and series out there, this one was certainly the most historically accurate in both story and costumes. I've learned to accept there's only so much they can do. One of the reasons the show got cancelled was because the cost of these accurate costumes and settings was not being made up for in views.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Friedrich on July 03, 2014, 02:05:42 am
I love HBOs Rome but I mean, of all the Roman movies and series out there, this one was certainly the most historically accurate in both story and costumes. I've learned to accept there's only so much they can do. One of the reasons the show got cancelled was because the cost of these accurate costumes and settings was not being made up for in views.
Sadly it got ganceled, it had the same budget like the first season of GoT. But people seem to be more interested in a fantasy lore than a historical one. :O
As I said, I love the series. I just differ between a series and history, than it's easy. I just needed to post this, as an archeologist I can't tolerate that someone in this forum can worship 'roman' Hollywood costumes. At least Bruins 2nd picture was fairly accurate, but still not comparable to the time setting in the series. Btw it is a Centurio from the early 2nd century AD.
I think most accurate in military equipment (but still not near perfection) was the movie Centurion (2009), but the plot and names were totally rubbish.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on July 03, 2014, 02:13:43 am
I love HBOs Rome but I mean, of all the Roman movies and series out there, this one was certainly the most historically accurate in both story and costumes. I've learned to accept there's only so much they can do. One of the reasons the show got cancelled was because the cost of these accurate costumes and settings was not being made up for in views.
Sadly it got ganceled, it had the same budget like the first season of GoT. But people seem to be more interested in a fantasy lore than a historical one. :O
As I said, I love the series. I just differ between a series and history, than it's easy. I just needed to post this, as an archeologist I can't tolerate that someone in this forum can worship 'roman' Hollywood costumes. At least Bruins 2nd picture was fairly accurate, but still not comparable to the time setting in the series. Btw it is a Centurio from the early 2nd century AD.
I think most accurate in military equipment (but still not near perfection) was the movie Centurion (2009), but the plot and names were totally rubbish.
Centurion made me shit blood. Q_Q
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Friedrich on July 03, 2014, 02:15:01 am
I love HBOs Rome but I mean, of all the Roman movies and series out there, this one was certainly the most historically accurate in both story and costumes. I've learned to accept there's only so much they can do. One of the reasons the show got cancelled was because the cost of these accurate costumes and settings was not being made up for in views.
Sadly it got ganceled, it had the same budget like the first season of GoT. But people seem to be more interested in a fantasy lore than a historical one. :O
As I said, I love the series. I just differ between a series and history, than it's easy. I just needed to post this, as an archeologist I can't tolerate that someone in this forum can worship 'roman' Hollywood costumes. At least Bruins 2nd picture was fairly accurate, but still not comparable to the time setting in the series. Btw it is a Centurio from the early 2nd century AD.
I think most accurate in military equipment (but still not near perfection) was the movie Centurion (2009), but the plot and names were totally rubbish.
Centurion made me shit blood. Q_Q
why?

BTW: sometimes I talk rubbish. When romans wear double belts (cingulum militare) 'western style' it's ofc first half 1st century AD. v.v
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roman-glory.com%2Fimages%2Fconnolly-greciya-i-rim-gallery%2Fimg03.jpg&hash=60bfd843dc813981ec4f373e5830ecec0ec57e2b)
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Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Bruin on July 03, 2014, 05:20:10 am
I love HBOs Rome but I mean, of all the Roman movies and series out there, this one was certainly the most historically accurate in both story and costumes. I've learned to accept there's only so much they can do. One of the reasons the show got cancelled was because the cost of these accurate costumes and settings was not being made up for in views.
Sadly it got ganceled, it had the same budget like the first season of GoT. But people seem to be more interested in a fantasy lore than a historical one. :O
As I said, I love the series. I just differ between a series and history, than it's easy. I just needed to post this, as an archeologist I can't tolerate that someone in this forum can worship 'roman' Hollywood costumes. At least Bruins 2nd picture was fairly accurate, but still not comparable to the time setting in the series. Btw it is a Centurio from the early 2nd century AD.
I think most accurate in military equipment (but still not near perfection) was the movie Centurion (2009), but the plot and names were totally rubbish.
Centurion made me shit blood. Q_Q
why?

BTW: sometimes I talk rubbish. When romans wear double belts (cingulum militare) 'western style' it's ofc first half 1st century AD. v.v
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roman-glory.com%2Fimages%2Fconnolly-greciya-i-rim-gallery%2Fimg03.jpg&hash=60bfd843dc813981ec4f373e5830ecec0ec57e2b)
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Nobody cares what flavor, what color, what shape, or anything. It was a very good TV Show with not a lot of fighting. Only reason why I didn't like it was because during the 30 second sex scene my brother walked into my room and saw it now when ever I'm on the computer late at night he always says "You watching that Roman porn again" But it was a very well put together show. It was a shame they canceled.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Friedrich on July 03, 2014, 10:28:17 am
I do.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: joer5835 on July 03, 2014, 11:46:47 am
I can relate to people I know calling it "Roman Porn".....
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Bruin on July 03, 2014, 04:38:10 pm
I do.
sucks ass
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Captain America on July 21, 2014, 07:56:43 pm
Been doing some Roman cooking recently, anyone brave in the kitchen be sure to check out "Pass the Garum" on the tinterwebs, Posca is an especially weird experience
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on July 21, 2014, 08:00:18 pm
I love HBOs Rome but I mean, of all the Roman movies and series out there, this one was certainly the most historically accurate in both story and costumes. I've learned to accept there's only so much they can do. One of the reasons the show got cancelled was because the cost of these accurate costumes and settings was not being made up for in views.
Sadly it got ganceled, it had the same budget like the first season of GoT. But people seem to be more interested in a fantasy lore than a historical one. :O
As I said, I love the series. I just differ between a series and history, than it's easy. I just needed to post this, as an archeologist I can't tolerate that someone in this forum can worship 'roman' Hollywood costumes. At least Bruins 2nd picture was fairly accurate, but still not comparable to the time setting in the series. Btw it is a Centurio from the early 2nd century AD.
I think most accurate in military equipment (but still not near perfection) was the movie Centurion (2009), but the plot and names were totally rubbish.
Centurion made me shit blood. Q_Q
why?

BTW: sometimes I talk rubbish. When romans wear double belts (cingulum militare) 'western style' it's ofc first half 1st century AD. v.v
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roman-glory.com%2Fimages%2Fconnolly-greciya-i-rim-gallery%2Fimg03.jpg&hash=60bfd843dc813981ec4f373e5830ecec0ec57e2b)
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Nobody cares what flavor, what color, what shape, or anything. It was a very good TV Show with not a lot of fighting. Only reason why I didn't like it was because during the 30 second sex scene my brother walked into my room and saw it now when ever I'm on the computer late at night he always says "You watching that Roman porn again" But it was a very well put together show. It was a shame they canceled.
I hear from the interwebs that Bruno Heller, the creator of Rome, is writing a Rome movie. Kevin McKidd (Lucius Vorenus) said if it happens, he definitely will be involved. Same goes for Ray Stevenson (Titus Pullo). It's supposed to take place on German frontier during the reign of Augustus
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Friedrich on July 22, 2014, 12:56:50 am
I hear from the interwebs that Bruno Heller, the creator of Rome, is writing a Rome movie. Kevin McKidd (Lucius Vorenus) said if it happens, he definitely will be involved. Same goes for Ray Stevenson (Titus Pullo). It's supposed to take place on German frontier during the reign of Augustus
Yay, then my hometown will be shown! \o/
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on August 21, 2014, 08:51:06 pm
Today I learned that the movie Gladiator was so historically inaccurate that one of the lead historical advisers left the project and demanded his name be taken out of the credits. Good for him.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Nipplestockings on August 21, 2014, 09:00:31 pm
Today I learned that the movie Gladiator was so historically inaccurate that one of the lead historical advisers left the project and demanded his name be taken out of the credits. Good for him.
lel
http://youtu.be/aJFFLvwNLlM
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on August 21, 2014, 09:09:14 pm
Today I learned that the movie Gladiator was so historically inaccurate that one of the lead historical advisers left the project and demanded his name be taken out of the credits. Good for him.
lel
http://youtu.be/aJFFLvwNLlM
I forget the schematics, probably wasn't the main one. Either way, fuck Ridely Scott or whatever the fuck his name is.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Riddlez on August 21, 2014, 10:45:05 pm
I follow(ed) a classical art class. We thoroughly discussed Roman architecture and art. Boy these folks could build.

The most interesting thing though, is that on one side, the Romans were incredibly talented engineers, but on the other hand, they invented very little practical, mostly only comfort/prestige.

Stuff like windmills - didn't happen. Why? They had slaves for that.
For a lot of practical stuff that would especially make work easier, just didn't occur to them, apparently, for they had slaves to do hard work, so why bother making it easier.

Now, I am hoping we will spend some time on Roman philosophy in the respective class.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on August 23, 2014, 05:15:28 am
I follow(ed) a classical art class. We thoroughly discussed Roman architecture and art. Boy these folks could build.

The most interesting thing though, is that on one side, the Romans were incredibly talented engineers, but on the other hand, they invented very little practical, mostly only comfort/prestige.

Stuff like windmills - didn't happen. Why? They had slaves for that.
For a lot of practical stuff that would especially make work easier, just didn't occur to them, apparently, for they had slaves to do hard work, so why bother making it easier.

Now, I am hoping we will spend some time on Roman philosophy in the respective class.
Do i sound like a baddie if I say Roman slavery (especially after the Spartacus Revolt) is probably the best culture to be a slave in
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Riddlez on August 23, 2014, 12:09:43 pm
I follow(ed) a classical art class. We thoroughly discussed Roman architecture and art. Boy these folks could build.

The most interesting thing though, is that on one side, the Romans were incredibly talented engineers, but on the other hand, they invented very little practical, mostly only comfort/prestige.

Stuff like windmills - didn't happen. Why? They had slaves for that.
For a lot of practical stuff that would especially make work easier, just didn't occur to them, apparently, for they had slaves to do hard work, so why bother making it easier.

Now, I am hoping we will spend some time on Roman philosophy in the respective class.
Do i sound like a baddie if I say Roman slavery (especially after the Spartacus Revolt) is probably the best culture to be a slave in

No, for it is probably true. Although the Ancient Greeks were relatively as good.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on August 23, 2014, 12:55:29 pm
I like to romanticize Spartacus and give him more credit than is probably due though bae  ::)

To anyone who's not well versed in Roman history, the thing that has made me better in the subject is Mike Duncan's History of Rome podcast. This is an extremely well done podcast using mostly primary sources and read by a charming and dry witted individual who truly loves the period. The first episodes are pretty rough though but fascinating. He starts with the less verifiable, almost mythical founding of Rome where he attempts to sort through fact and fiction. I have not yet finished it yet as it's gargantuan to say the least but to my understanding it ends with the official fall of the west in 476.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on September 15, 2014, 08:08:46 am
I love how Rome's Military was professional, well trained and equipped, well, at-least you could buy the gear?
If only Medieval England's Men-at-Arms were like this :C
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Riddlez on September 15, 2014, 08:48:02 am
I have always thought that the Roman training wasn't that special, it was good, but it was extremely simple. It was basically just formations and discipline.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on September 15, 2014, 11:37:39 am
Yeah, but I would pinch in individual swordsmanship.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 15, 2014, 12:13:36 pm
I have always thought that the Roman training wasn't that special, it was good, but it was extremely simple. It was basically just formations and discipline.
That's what made it special. The maniple and cohort systems along with the idea of mechanized killing over individual courage and ability
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on September 16, 2014, 07:46:55 am
One battle with the Celts, the Romans utilized tactics and formations, and in that battle, they were outnumbered 10-1 and the Romans won, with their formations and teamwork.
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 16, 2014, 07:10:31 pm
One battle with the Celts, the Romans utilized tactics and formations, and in that battle, they were outnumbered 10-1 and the Romans won, with their formations and teamwork.
That's pretty much the entire Gallic Wars
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Akko on December 15, 2014, 03:54:14 am
Huns FTW

Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 15, 2014, 03:55:31 am
Huns FTW
Only good under Attila

Even then

Boo

Barbarian scum
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Crescent Glow on December 15, 2014, 03:59:45 am
Who is your favorite Roman emperor?

Nerva is my favorite, he wasn't emperor for that long but he is often described as a wise and moderate emperor, something hard to come by in Roman politicians.

Ur guise turn
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 15, 2014, 04:02:55 am
No singular favorite sadly

Augustus because he's fuckin Augustus

Aurelius because Meditations and Macromannic Wars

Diocletian because he's basically responsible for earlyk feudalism yay

Also Trajan cause who the fuck doesn't like Trajan
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Crescent Glow on December 15, 2014, 04:05:05 am
Nerva adopted Trajan  ;D
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 15, 2014, 04:06:18 am
Nerva adopted Trajan  ;D
That's pretty much the only reason he's considered one of the Five a Good Emperors

Also, fuck, Vespasian cause he killed jews and I can respect that
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 15, 2014, 04:07:17 am
Speaking of Diocletian, Lindybeige has some great videos on his palace and other constructions.

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Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 15, 2014, 04:08:27 am
Does he have videos on his highly successful hobby turned secret world dominating cabbage farm? No? Fukin noob
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Crescent Glow on December 16, 2014, 05:16:16 pm
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This picture is too nice to have a white background, can someone help a brother out?
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on January 22, 2015, 07:56:03 am
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This picture is too nice to have a white background, can someone help a brother out?
no :P
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Nicholas_PRIME on February 01, 2015, 06:20:11 am
Vercingetorix FTW
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on February 01, 2015, 01:49:02 pm
Vercingetorix FTW
No
Literal shit

Caesar fucked Virgingettyourrix up the bum so fast while being grossly outnumbered is humiliating
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Hawkes on February 01, 2015, 04:24:02 pm
Vercingetorix FTW
No
Literal shit

Caesar fucked Virgingettyourrix up the bum so fast while being grossly outnumbered is humiliating

o shit its rainin'
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Colonel Howe on February 01, 2015, 04:26:16 pm
Vercingetorix FTW
No
Literal shit

Caesar fucked Virgingettyourrix up the bum so fast while being grossly outnumbered is humiliating

o shit its rainin'
Men or dead Gallic scum?
Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Ililsa on February 24, 2015, 07:08:01 pm
This picture is too nice to have a white background, can someone help a brother out?

Done.

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Title: Re: Roman Love Thread
Post by: Wolff on April 15, 2015, 11:54:48 am
I think I already pointed out every important fact bout romans and the downfall in another thread

ItalyWorstEU only some itals good but most bad fighting. no war nation ja its true cuz that was also said by ital generals in ww2 "we no fighting nation like jermains - we nation of dolce vita, vino and much culture". ital generals always bad look at isonzo. renessaince never counts we speak bout war not bout shitty shit gay lets do a bit pussy fight time. romans no count neither cuz romans no ital. romans (italics) nordic aryan ja its true. but then a lot of sandniggas, merchants, sandniggamerchants and capitalists and capitalist from judea came and took the strong and healthful nordic-italic farmer and warrior people their power and mixed blood and that is when rome got shitty and romans got fat and lazy and killed each other and then  tried to Reich but failed. Ja max truth. Sad but true. Ital ital ital