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The Lounge => Historical Discussion => Historical Reenactment => Topic started by: kpetschulat on December 17, 2013, 05:32:22 am

Title: In desperate need of help!
Post by: kpetschulat on December 17, 2013, 05:32:22 am: I am trying to find an original WW2 German, non-transitional, helmet in my size. Problem is, my dome is fucking massive:

62.5cm, 7^7/8 hat size (USA), 69/70 shell size.

The group I joined will absolutely NOT budge on me getting a very good quality repro, and I have been look for months now. Pleas help!

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Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: GodsonGuys on December 17, 2013, 05:45:21 am: Hessen Antique do a 70 Shell 62cm (7 3/4) Liner.

www.hessenantique.com/category_s/46.htm

Up for a squeeze?
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 17, 2013, 05:47:33 am: Godson, he just said he needed an Original, not a Repro.

Hey petsch, thats bit retarded of your group to force you getting Original despite your size issue. No such thing as original in that size at least i think. I mean i was told if you have smaller dome, go for original, if you dont, go for repro. Im in the 275th ID a Progressive unit, they do approve the M35 Repro from Hessen. So I dont see why 2nd SS would reject that at all.

I was also recommended
http://www.militarytour.com/Reproductions/WW11/German/Uniforms/M35grn.htm (http://www.militarytour.com/Reproductions/WW11/German/Uniforms/M35grn.htm)

I too have bigger noggin, 7 5/8 I have to buy repro one in 7 1/2 despite it would be a tight fit for me. But I must deal with it.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: GodsonGuys on December 17, 2013, 05:50:34 am: Quote from: DeoVindice61 on December 17, 2013, 05:47:33 am
Godson, he just said he needed an Original, not a Repro.

Didn't read that part properly...
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Millander on December 17, 2013, 05:56:53 am: Your likely joining the wrong company if they refuse to compromise like that.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: zac on December 17, 2013, 06:01:01 am: best of luck, BIG HEADS UNITE :D

best i could find

http://www.atthefrontshop.com/searchresults.asp?cat=247
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Landrik on December 17, 2013, 11:50:57 am: Like I said, if they're so adamant about it looking aged, get a repro aged by another reenactor. It'll look great, yeah, but you'll have to pay money for it.

No way you're getting an original with your melon.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: DoctorWarband on December 17, 2013, 04:02:12 pm: Search in IMA, they're good and National Geographic approves.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: kpetschulat on December 18, 2013, 02:05:56 am: Quote from: Millander on December 17, 2013, 05:56:53 am
Your likely joining the wrong company if they refuse to compromise like that.

Trust me, Millander... I have thought about this. But, the problem is, there are no other active groups in my area... These guys are the only large (100+ people) and active group near me, and the closest event is still 4 hours away.

I've been sending lots of emails out to the big collectors and companies that I get reproduction items from. I got a hilarious message reply from Hessen-Antique:

"... Our reproduction helmets are some of the best you can buy... In our 30 years of business, we have only ever seen one helmet in your size, Kyle."
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 18, 2013, 02:15:39 am: Petsch, I kinda noticed this but I think "closest unit" thing doesnt just work around in ww2 reenacting.

I mean my unit is chicagoland based. I thought it mean events are Chicagoland. Like my ACW unit are Chicagoland and most of our livinghistory and meetings are done in Chicagoland with few battle also.

However, for my ww2 unit, none of the event this year are in Chicagoland. I have one in whole another state, Michigan. And used to plan a event in another state, Indiana (cancelled) and last weekend, was in deep in the heart of Illinois. Our members vary from Illinois and Wisconsin. So I would assume, no matter what unit you will join, the events are more likely to be far. Maybe you could find another unit thats not really based near you but attend nearly all the same event as 2nd SS would attend. Just my observation so far.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: kpetschulat on December 18, 2013, 02:48:36 am: Idk, we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Landrik on December 18, 2013, 08:04:31 am: There are other units in Jersey, like the 3.PGD which is a very good Heer unit. As for SS, I'm not sure but I know there has to be more than just the 1.SS you're trying to get into.

There were big headed guys in the WH, but a VERY few amount. People were just not as generally big back then. Get a repro.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 18, 2013, 09:06:22 pm: Oh man, imagine if we Napoleonic re-enactors had to fit in the original uniforms. Especially the Dutch. People are easily four inches feet taller now. And...you know...broader :P
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: kpetschulat on December 19, 2013, 02:33:16 am: I couldn't imagine even being lucky to find authentic items for Napoleonic reenacting. It'd fall apart in the first event! Haha.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 19, 2013, 09:34:47 am: Oh, there's plenty of stuff. Especially weapons.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: kpetschulat on December 19, 2013, 01:58:38 pm: Do you guys actually use authentic weaponry for Napoleonic reenacting? Swords, I could understand, but muskets... I can't get the image of shooting a musket and it exploding in your hands due to age out of my head.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: zac on December 19, 2013, 02:06:16 pm: Yes , all authentic, actually used my Bess for hunting once, didnt hit anything
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 19, 2013, 02:51:19 pm: Here... hard to say. Majority uses replicas, but originals sure aren't uncommon.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: zac on December 19, 2013, 02:52:27 pm: *****Ye all replicas here, a few originals but there rare and Frowned upon
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 19, 2013, 02:53:44 pm: Frowned upon you mean? :P

Why?
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: zac on December 19, 2013, 02:54:16 pm: for muskets, well, its obvious, they are just not trusted
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 19, 2013, 03:43:14 pm: It's obvious? Really? Not to us.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 19, 2013, 05:36:04 pm: Same to ACW, Original rifles are not trusted and warned very highly. I still use all Original 1861 Springfield, thing shoots like a beauty but man, everytime i say it, someone go "YOUR NOT SUPPOSE TO USE THAT YOU B******************************, YOU NEARLY KILLED YOUR COMPANY, I OUTGHA SPRAY YOU DOWN WITH MP40 YOU ****************(***************" ._.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Millander on December 19, 2013, 06:34:17 pm: In the late 80's when reenacting took of there were nearly entire companies with original uniforms. People quickly learned however it wasent a good idea to wear out and destroy all these original artifacts.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 20, 2013, 12:13:21 am: 'artifacts' lol

At Leipzig, I actually walked around with a original brown bess that was so worn down it couldn't be fired anymore :P I believe the owner is going to repair it so that, while it will remain non-firing, it will serve as a dummy. It was nice to hold, still.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 20, 2013, 12:25:20 am: Its also pretty funny that some ww2 originals are like better made than repros. Currently replacing the buttons of my tunic and been told to get original zeltbahn and gas mask canister.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: Duuring on December 20, 2013, 01:29:12 am: I happen to know that the family factory who makes shako plates for re-enactors now, also made shako plates for Napoleons army two centuries ago. They use the same casts as well.

That's something.
Title: Re: In desperate need of help!
Post by: DeoVindice61 on December 20, 2013, 02:22:54 am: That's pretty cool in fact.

We have a Wool company called Woolrich, they made blankets for Union Army and still operating today.