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Title: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 27, 2013, 11:28:17 pm
Is there an explanation or?
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Killington on November 27, 2013, 11:29:16 pm
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This topic has been moved to General Archive while it awaits the attention of a moderator.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=11044.0
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: TORN on November 27, 2013, 11:30:07 pm
We'll just have to wait. I think with recent events that the mods are full of our shit.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 27, 2013, 11:33:21 pm
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This topic has been moved to General Archive while it awaits the attention of a moderator.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=11044.0

Well i know that much.

We'll just have to wait. I think with recent events that the mods are full of our shit.

Yeah, didn't notice the size of the shitstorm that went on on the other politics thread by Weaverwarrior.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: TORN on November 27, 2013, 11:35:01 pm
Weaver has a tendency to create threads that end in a shitstorm. I dare even call it a diarrheacyclon.
He likes to watch heated discussions.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 12:06:20 am
Dammit, the best thread on this forum is gone...

DAMN YOU FSE! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Pinball Wizard on November 28, 2013, 01:29:51 am
Lets just talk about politics here
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: DaMonkey on November 28, 2013, 01:31:19 am
It's what they've always done: trying to protect kindergartners from meanieheads who would hurt their feelings.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: TheBoberton on November 28, 2013, 01:33:39 am
Lets just talk about politics here

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Did anything precede the decision to move the thread? I wasn't here to see, but how bad did the 'discussion' (Read as: Perpetual Argument) get?
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Menelaos on November 28, 2013, 04:14:04 am
Lets just talk about politics here

Challenge accepted.

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Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Riddlez on November 28, 2013, 02:31:54 pm
If they feel like it can insult other viewers, they should mark it down as mature content. (not even such a bad idea).

It was the general insulting of other users and posting negative generalisations about other religions and politcal views.
Though they seem to have forgotten that generalisation is pretty common and almost natural (psychologically-wise), and that most of the time (I know it sounds ironic, but personal experience speaking, I also said most of the time, not all the time) generalisation comes from being misinformed, underinformed or dogmatical thinking.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Pinball Wizard on November 28, 2013, 03:19:47 pm
If you take offense to an insult then you are living up to meaning of the insult.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: von_Bismarck on November 28, 2013, 03:46:48 pm
I agree with Riddlez. It should be marked as mature content. Since apparently, not everyone is able to withstand arguments and notions that go against their beliefs, so they flock to report opinions that they don't like, which gives moderators the impression that the thread is out of control when actually it is only some people who use the Report tool as a weapon when they have no compelling arguments to use against their ideological counterparts. It is not a problem of the thread itself, but rather one of the people who even though most of them hold the best intentions when posting their opinion, they end up not being mature enough to handle a civil discussion. Nevertheless, I still hold the conviction that intellectual conversations can be handled in the off topic section, basing myself in many good opinions I've seen there.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 28, 2013, 03:50:57 pm
Am i the only one worried about being Right-winged is now not allowed, yet the Left-winged can do whatever they want?

Or did they mean just no right winged opinions linked to Nazi Germany?
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Desert Thunda on November 28, 2013, 04:01:36 pm
Or did they mean just no right winged opinions linked to Nazi Germany?

That.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 28, 2013, 04:04:38 pm
Or did they mean just no right winged opinions linked to Nazi Germany?

That.

I wonder how they'll moderate that.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: alpkerem on November 28, 2013, 04:06:17 pm
Am i the only one worried about being Right-winged is now not allowed, yet the Left-winged can do whatever they want?

Or did they mean just no right winged opinions linked to Nazi Germany?
tvarish thunda must be more than happy now ::)
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Desert Thunda on November 28, 2013, 04:06:36 pm
Only time will tell.

@Alp, I couldn't care less.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Menelaos on November 28, 2013, 04:12:16 pm
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12. No posting of National Socialist imagery, symbols or right wing opinions or representation that may glorify or seek to represent elements of former Nazi Germany.
In many countries such symbols and imagery are banned particularly in Germany where FSE's host servers are based. At the end of the day this is a forum for the enjoyment of FSE products and not a platform for political discourse. FSE does not wish to contravene Germany's strict policies in regards to Strafgesetzbuch section 86a and thus requests that its users adhere to this policy as part of the terms of service agreement.

Am i the only one worried about being Right-winged is now not allowed, yet the Left-winged can do whatever they want?

Or did they mean just no right winged opinions linked to Nazi Germany?

I guess fascism is now equivalent to Nazism, back off guys.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Wismar on November 28, 2013, 04:26:42 pm
I agree with Riddlez. It should be marked as mature content. Since apparently, not everyone is able to withstand arguments and notions that go against their beliefs, so they flock to report opinions that they don't like, which gives moderators the impression that the thread is out of control when actually it is only some people who use the Report tool as a weapon when they have no compelling arguments to use against their ideological counterparts. It is not a problem of the thread itself, but rather one of the people who even though most of them hold the best intentions when posting their opinion, they end up not being mature enough to handle a civil discussion. Nevertheless, I still hold the conviction that intellectual conversations can be handled in the off topic section, basing myself in many good opinions I've seen there.
Indeed. Maybe just add some kind of timer to the report button.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Menelaos on November 28, 2013, 04:27:28 pm
I believe there is a timer already, spamming the report function isn't the problem. It's the content of the report.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 28, 2013, 04:48:30 pm
Both threads were closed because we saw pretty explicit statements of homophobia from one poster and the other poster who will not be named was racial profiling. The main one may be reopened again when we quite frankly purge the most offensive content from it.

Also, when people casually start boasting about burning hypothetical religious buildings it might be time for us to consider why we are letting you people debate such mature topics at all. It seems some of you are sadly unsatisfied, have you considered maybe joining an online community about open online political debate if you want to truly voice your views no matter what?

Instead of a gaming forum?
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 05:04:52 pm
Maybe we're gamers who like talking about Politics and current events Sean, that ever cross your mind?
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Furrnox on November 28, 2013, 05:06:09 pm
I like that I did state before that this community can't handle mature discussions but I was just ignored :(
Furrnox be sad now  :'(
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: von_Bismarck on November 28, 2013, 05:11:46 pm
Is your maximum ambition to ban any kind of political discussion?! I'm sorry, but since you became a moderator you have done nothing but censoring words that are tolerable, not outrageously bad as you try to paint them, yet what buggers me most is that you're always trying to lock any kind of interesting political discussion, even when they're being handled in a civil manner. Unless you suddenly make some new kind of ridiculous rule that completely bans political discussions, people will keep giving their input onto those threads, and righfully so.  ;)
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Wismar on November 28, 2013, 05:12:32 pm
Maybe we're gamers who like talking about Politics and current events Sean, that ever cross your mind?
Indeed.

Just but a "mature content" marker or whatever and just leave it. If you know your limitations and know you are easily offended, just ignore it.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Furrnox on November 28, 2013, 05:14:57 pm
Yeah because just because it's marked as mature content insults are okay.
Also last time I checked burning down religious buildings have nothing to do with politics.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Wismar on November 28, 2013, 05:16:11 pm
Yeah because just because it's marked as mature content insults are okay.
Yeah, just let there be atleast one place for anarchy on this forum. I'm sure Augy would like it.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 05:19:36 pm
Yeah because just because it's marked as mature content insults are okay.
Also last time I checked burning down religious buildings have nothing to do with politics.

Punish the criminal, not the group. If someone says something offensive just boot him out onto the curb and leave the rest of us sensible people in peace.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 28, 2013, 05:20:34 pm
Maybe we're gamers who like talking about Politics and current events Sean, that ever cross your mind?

You guys are clearly missing the point. You can talk nonsense all you want. But some of you seem to think it is alright to go over board and post offensive stuff that would clearly end any civilized debate.

There is 'I disagree with your opinion, here is my own' which I've seen some posters do and there is 'I hate them types and will burn their stuff!' which I've seen in the last 24 hours. The latter is the problem. No forum would have that. Have some self moderation people if you actually to talk these things out seriously. Half of you are constantly upset by this thread the other half think it is your divine right.

Oh and treating the board moderation with disdain really isn't helping matters too I might add. Be patient and we'll sort this out, don't start insulting us because it gets you nowhere.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 05:24:21 pm
Again Sean, just punish those who infract forum rules. 85% of the people who go onto the Political Thread actually put forward well thought points and discussions. Then we have the 15% of people like... well everyone knows who, who says he want's to burn down a place of worship.

Remove the people who are breaking the rules, punish the offender not him and the surrounding crowd.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Wismar on November 28, 2013, 05:27:13 pm
Again Sean, just punish those who infract forum rules. 85% of the people who go onto the Political Thread actually put forward well thought points and discussions. Then we have the 15% of people like... well everyone knows who, who says he want's to burn down a place of worship.

Remove the people who are breaking the rules, punish the offender not him and the surrounding crowd.

Kill it with fire!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnod9vtB4xA[/youtube]
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 05:28:56 pm
Again Sean, just punish those who infract forum rules. 85% of the people who go onto the Political Thread actually put forward well thought points and discussions. Then we have the 15% of people like... well everyone knows who, who says he want's to burn down a place of worship.

Remove the people who are breaking the rules, punish the offender not him and the surrounding crowd.

Kill it with fire!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnod9vtB4xA[/youtube]

That did a grand total of jack-shit to help the cause Oskar.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: Wismar on November 28, 2013, 05:31:05 pm
Sorry :(
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 28, 2013, 05:34:04 pm
Again Sean, just punish those who infract forum rules. 85% of the people who go onto the Political Thread actually put forward well thought points and discussions. Then we have the 15% of people like... well everyone knows who, who says he want's to burn down a place of worship.

Remove the people who are breaking the rules, punish the offender not him and the surrounding crowd.

This is a lot harder really than it seems, due to past drama removing problem posters causes its own issues and most of us are between projects in real life. We are looking into said posters. Blob is reading through the Main thread tonight and it'll be back soon for people who actually want to talk politics and not use the thread as an excuse to spread drama.
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 05:36:47 pm
Again Sean, just punish those who infract forum rules. 85% of the people who go onto the Political Thread actually put forward well thought points and discussions. Then we have the 15% of people like... well everyone knows who, who says he want's to burn down a place of worship.

Remove the people who are breaking the rules, punish the offender not him and the surrounding crowd.

This is a lot harder really than it seems, due to past drama removing problem posters causes its own issues and most of us are between projects in real life. We are looking into said posters. Blob is reading through the Main thread tonight and it'll be back soon for people who actually want to talk politics and not use the thread as an excuse to spread drama.

Fair dinkum.

I'll be honest, I' surprised the Politics Thread lasted a long as it did before something like this happened O.o
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: hoiNL on November 28, 2013, 05:42:46 pm
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Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 28, 2013, 05:44:49 pm
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1. You were being a prejudiced bastard ad said you wanted to burn a Mosque

2. You just circumvented your mute, you know you just fucked yourself over right?
Title: Re: What happened to the politics thread?
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 28, 2013, 05:47:44 pm
When the thread is cleared up, we could do with the help of some of the mature people posting in it to report that nonsense instantly and pay no attention to the people posting it. I'll happily sort them out.