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Confederates / Re: 58th Alabama, Company I, "Saint Clair Sharps"
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SpoilerNobody thinks the flag only represents racism. Of course it is a part of history, but when it is still flying on a government building and was set there for the soul purpose of opposing the civil rights movement, there shouldn't be much question in your mind as to its legitimacy. I don't support a ban on the confederate flag, and these companies like Apple who are removing it from the app store are being silly - clearly just to appease their shareholders.
The thing is though, regardless of its legal status in the US, the confederate flag does not really represent a noble cause. You can claim all you like that the confederacy did not fight for the continuation of slavery, but every historical document and source of information speaks otherwise. It simply is not true that the civil war was not fought primarily over slavery. It was a debate that had been raging for decades before the outbreak of the war, and in almost every single declaration of secession published from each state of the confederacy, upholding slavery was clearly stated as their primary cause. The south plainly and simply did not want to abolish slavery. It's understandable of course, considering the entire livelihood of the south dependent on slavery as an established institution, and I'm not entirely sure how anyone could deny this with the historical resources available to us on the internet today, but all the same, it's quite clear what the confederacy stood for, and it's quite clear to me that their cause was not one of honor or nobility.[close]
I view it as a War of Northern Aggression, to prove it you must look at the events of the year 1860/61. December 20th, 1860 South Carolina secedes.. stating simply that the soon to be crusade against slavery would threaten their constitutional rights. The word slavery is mentioned six times in their deceleration of succession but never about keeping their slaves, just that the Union would use it as a base to deny their rights. By the end of January 1861, six more states would leave the Union as independent republics, by February these seven states would join together and form a provisional government and label their nation as a confederation. In the months leading to April of 1861, the south would have taken over the garrisons of abandoned forts as well as arsenals in their states with the exception of South Carolina specifically, as well as visit Lincoln in Washington asking him to recognize their independence. By April 12th, the state of South Carolina will have asked on multiple occasions for the US to abandon Fort Sumter due to the Union's lack of jurisdiction, South Carolina is a independent state now. When they refuse Confederates and South Carolina bombard the fort, and with no casualties sustained the Union surrenders and returns home. Upon word of Sumter Lincoln calls to arms 75,000 troops to end what he called the "insurrection" of South Carolina which eventually leads to the other four states of South to secede and form an army by July and have those armies merge at Manassas and Bull Run Creek.
This is a noble of cause as is any, the ideals of slavery can't be denied and nobody truly argues that. Mississippi and Texas specifically mention the ability to maintain the institution of slavery. But the maintenance of this institution was mainly political, normal people who didn't own slaves (and even many confederate officers and generals who never owned slaves) didn't much care for the ideals of slavery. But when a force bigger than your own demands you to raise your arms against brothers, then invades your lands, destroys your houses, and occupies your inhabitance under military rule.. its something you fight for. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't even free all the slaves, it only freed the slaves in the South where they had no authority, meanwhile Union slave states like Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland and Delaware were allowed to maintain slavery and some didn't fully abolish the institution til the 1880's. So to demonize the Confederate cause as strictly slave related is incredibly incorrect.