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Shimazu Yoshihiro no doubt...
Napoleon occupied the Tsar's palace in Moskou for weeks. He still lost.
When Napoleon entered Moskou, the Russian military was in full panic. They had no idea what to do and just did nothing. The Tsar, as ever, couldn't make a decision, and therefor neither accepted nor really turned down Napoleons requests for peace. The ball was in his court and he did nothing. In Sint-Petersburg, rumors that the war was lost and over were spreading like wildfire, which led to the arrest of several civilians. Moskou was far from burned to the ground and the French army was not that much more undisciplined then it usually was. The men were tired as shit though, and they had always thought that entering Moskou would mean an end to the campaign.
Quote from: Duuring on January 09, 2014, 05:21:57 pmNapoleon occupied the Tsar's palace in Moskou for weeks. He still lost.He received only burnt down city and undisciplined army in Moscow
thus they had no army to retreat with and burn Moscow down while with Napoleon it was all along to plan get him as deep as possible in Russia and let the winter do its job
Charles XII,He got into a war he did not start against multiple enemies, gave a black eye to most of em and is only military leader ever to be have Russia on its knees. Had he marched onward after Battle of Narva there was nothing between his army and Tsar's palace in Moscow.Well Hitler was too quite close.
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Quote from: Alan Watt on January 09, 2014, 05:13:55 pmCharles XII,He got into a war he did not start against multiple enemies, gave a black eye to most of em and is only military leader ever to be have Russia on its knees. Had he marched onward after Battle of Narva there was nothing between his army and Tsar's palace in Moscow.Well Hitler was too quite close.Except Poltava and poland where we lost our army.