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Offline Humlenerd

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #210 on: August 30, 2013, 10:22:45 am »
Napoleon Bonaparte :D

Because of his superior military tactics, and just behaviour.

Edit: The young Napoleon(before 1812).
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #211 on: September 09, 2013, 02:56:45 pm »
Either Hannibal or Adolf Hitler
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #212 on: September 09, 2013, 03:20:16 pm »
Hitler didn't for naught get higher that Corporal =P

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #213 on: September 09, 2013, 04:49:40 pm »
Quote from: Riddlez on September 09, 2013, 03:20:16 pm
Hitler didn't for naught get higher that Corporal =P

I doubt he is talking about his military leadership, he's most likely talking about his political leadership. Hitler didn't become the leader of a nation for no reason after all.


I enjoy reading about Hasso von Manteuffel at the moment, another great German divisional commander in WW2. There are so many others that it'd just take ages to mention them all. Other favorites are Napoleon I, Gustav II Adolf and good old Friedrich II
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #214 on: September 10, 2013, 12:38:32 am »
Quote from: Archduke_Sven on September 09, 2013, 04:49:40 pm
Quote from: Riddlez on September 09, 2013, 03:20:16 pm
Hitler didn't for naught get higher that Corporal =P

I doubt he is talking about his military leadership, he's most likely talking about his political leadership. Hitler didn't become the leader of a nation for no reason after all.


I enjoy reading about Hasso von Manteuffel at the moment, another great German divisional commander in WW2. There are so many others that it'd just take ages to mention them all. Other favorites are Napoleon I, Gustav II Adolf and good old Friedrich II
Thank you Sven!!
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #216 on: September 30, 2013, 07:14:23 pm »
Quote from: Joker11 on September 09, 2013, 02:56:45 pm
... Adolf Hitler

If the leader of my country, democraticly elected or not, started the bloodiest conflict in the history of mankind, leading to millions of dead countrymen, the virtual destruction of every major city in my country, the loss of sovereignty for several years and my country beeing split into four (later two) parts for 50 years, I'd sure as hell wouldn't consider him my favorite. I am very interested in your reasoning here.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #217 on: October 01, 2013, 12:16:30 am »
Quote from: Tali on September 30, 2013, 07:14:23 pm
Quote from: Joker11 on September 09, 2013, 02:56:45 pm
... Adolf Hitler

If the leader of my country, democraticly elected or not, started the bloodiest conflict in the history of mankind, leading to millions of dead countrymen, the virtual destruction of every major city in my country, the loss of sovereignty for several years and my country beeing split into four (later two) parts for 50 years, I'd sure as hell wouldn't consider him my favorite. I am very interested in your reasoning here.

He's got the moves like Jagger. And better than James Brown. Ol' Adolf was known for his choreography.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #218 on: October 02, 2013, 05:38:57 pm »
People that said Adolf Hitler disgusts me...
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #219 on: October 02, 2013, 06:17:59 pm »
Quote from: Johan on October 02, 2013, 05:38:57 pm
People that said Adolf Hitler disgusts me...
You don't need to worry. I they don't really mean it. If they were to see a gulag or consentration camp IRL I think they would change their minds.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #220 on: October 02, 2013, 06:42:22 pm »
Quote from: Johan on October 02, 2013, 05:38:57 pm
People that said Adolf Hitler disgusts me...

Saving Europe from Bolshevism wasn't a bad plan, because face it, had Germany stayed at Weimar Republic levels of armament, the Bolshevik hordes would have wiped out European civilization. That was their plan all along, those damn communists.

And also, if you're going to blame Hitler for starting WW2, i hope you are aware that the Soviets had we're going to launch an attack on Europe, so there was going to be a showdown between Europe and the Soviets eventually anyways.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #221 on: October 02, 2013, 07:34:22 pm »
Damn Sven, you just went full retard.
Fascism was never a viable system and its buried, keep it buried.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #222 on: October 02, 2013, 07:43:31 pm »
Quote from: Augy on October 02, 2013, 07:34:22 pm
Damn Sven, you just went full retard.
Fascism was never a viable system and its buried, keep it buried.

It's not retarded, its what would have happened. I'm not condoning Hitlers, nor do i wish to justify them, but just want people to see it from a different perspective than what textbooks say. A general European war having to do with the USSR would have happened, had Hitler not taken power in '33.

Also i would appreciate if you criticized more specific than saying i went "full retard" just because my views don't fit your agenda, and so that i could reply to you more effectively.

Nor did i ever say fascism was a viable system, but it is clearly the lesser of two evils when compared to communism, specifically Stalinism.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #223 on: October 02, 2013, 07:58:42 pm »
I'm sorry but you gotta deal with my bluntness.
Stalinism is quite bad but gave a bad name to communism as a whole, the USSR and other cold war socialist states were the authoritarian side.

In my opinion they should've smashed fascism instantly when it rose because it ruined a lot of great workers movements in the world, especially Europe. (not to mention the other, more horrid manifestations of fascism)
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #224 on: October 02, 2013, 08:13:12 pm »
Or we could just praise Poland for kicking the USSR back into Russia in 1921.
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