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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => War of 1812 => Topic started by: usnavy30 on December 15, 2014, 12:48:03 am

Title: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on December 15, 2014, 12:48:03 am
(https://i.imgur.com/gZQaUCP.png)

Post your suggestions here in this thread!

Suggestions Gathered:
Spanish troops for UK - Theodaric
Canoes for Natives (Driveable) - done
Sergeant or Serjeant? Sergeant it is. (Spelling preference)
Tricornes for Frontier Militia - USADominic
East India Company, Madras Army Sepoy Regiment (http://www.wikigallery.org/wiki/painting_156137/Charles-Hamilton-Smith/Native-Troops-in-the-East-India-Companys-Service-a-Sergeant-of-Light-Infantry-and-a-Private-of-the-Madras-Sepoys,-engraved-by-Joseph-Constantine-Stadler,-1815) - Physic58
More player banners (suggestions?)
British officer bicornes - Nurdbot
Custom U.S. and U.K. regiment drum patterns

Possible future maps:
New Orleans (Battle) - Luke Ewell
Convoy Ambush (Battle)
Plains of Abraham (Battle) (Seven Years' War) - BattleWhale
Commander Battle mode maps
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: dukeofwellington on January 02, 2015, 06:18:28 am
Ever though about these units for maybe a sub-mod people can use? 8th King's Regiment of Foot. 49th Regiment of Foot.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 02, 2015, 06:44:19 pm
Ever though about these units for maybe a sub-mod people can use? 8th King's Regiment of Foot. 49th Regiment of Foot.

We have been working to make the game easier to mod by making sure that shared resources amongst units are at a minimum, like pants. The 8th and 49th are both great regiments but we had only so much space and regiments that were different in appearence from the vanilla game with good war records were ultimately chosen, the exception being the 41st which looks very much like the 33rd. If a person desires to have these units represented in the game, changing the facings on the early war 1st Royal Scots to green to make the 49th and altering the lace to square loops on the same uniforms to make the 8th would be the easiest conversions. Mr Kochi also has some British Army templates available on his mini-mod thread that make it much easier to create new British regiments.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 06, 2015, 06:10:55 am
Can I suggest adding more arrows for the Indians? Also shouldn't the us flag be available for ensigns (stars and stripes not the one thy have now)
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 06, 2015, 08:59:10 pm
Can I suggest adding more arrows for the Indians? Also shouldn't the us flag be available for ensigns (stars and stripes not the one thy have now)
The Star-Spangled Banner? Well, I am pretty sure a flag bearer can choose up to four flag selections technically speaking.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 08, 2015, 12:45:26 am
Yeah the Star-Spangled Banner not the eagle thing that's going on now
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 08, 2015, 10:59:55 pm
The "eagle thing" or the National Standard carried by US regular army units is what was going on from 1812-15 so that is why we are using it. If you must have the Stars and Stripes a version of it was carried by the 5th Maryland State Militia who are currently in the mod.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 09, 2015, 02:38:47 pm
The "eagle thing" or the National Standard carried by US regular army units is what was going on from 1812-15 so that is why we are using it. If you must have the Stars and Stripes a version of it was carried by the 5th Maryland State Militia who are currently in the mod.
wouldn't it make more sense to have the eagle thing and the Star-Spangled Banner rather than the state flag?
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 09, 2015, 10:59:32 pm
The "eagle thing" or the National Standard carried by US regular army units is what was going on from 1812-15 so that is why we are using it. If you must have the Stars and Stripes a version of it was carried by the 5th Maryland State Militia who are currently in the mod.
wouldn't it make more sense to have the eagle thing and the Star-Spangled Banner rather than the state flag?

We are doing what makes sense historically according to the research we have done with some occasional compromises for practical reasons.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 10, 2015, 12:01:01 am
The "eagle thing" or the National Standard carried by US regular army units is what was going on from 1812-15 so that is why we are using it. If you must have the Stars and Stripes a version of it was carried by the 5th Maryland State Militia who are currently in the mod.
wouldn't it make more sense to have the eagle thing and the Star-Spangled Banner rather than the state flag?

We are doing what makes sense historically according to the research we have done with some occasional compromises for practical reasons.


Links to paintings depicting stars and stripes and no eagle thing:
http://www.history.com/news/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/battle-of-new-orleans.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Battle_of_New_Orleans.jpg
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2008/09/battleofneworleans2.jpg
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/war-of-1812-battle-of-new-orleans-1815-photo-researchers.jpg http://voiceofniagara.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/us-navy-commandant-oliver-perrys-victory-on-lake-erie-2.jpg

Idk what is historical about not having it :/ and for practical reasons wouldnt it be fairly easy to replace the state flags with a national flag?
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 10, 2015, 12:31:03 am
I am pretty sure I can include up to four (if not more) colours for selection for an ensign/color sergeant. So that is not an issue of space.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 10, 2015, 01:02:06 am
I am pretty sure I can include up to four (if not more) colours for selection for an ensign/color sergeant. So that is not an issue of space.

could you use the same flag the US has when it defends on sieges so you dont have to redo anything
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 10, 2015, 02:09:38 am
The "eagle thing" or the National Standard carried by US regular army units is what was going on from 1812-15 so that is why we are using it. If you must have the Stars and Stripes a version of it was carried by the 5th Maryland State Militia who are currently in the mod.
wouldn't it make more sense to have the eagle thing and the Star-Spangled Banner rather than the state flag?

We are doing what makes sense historically according to the research we have done with some occasional compromises for practical reasons.


Links to paintings depicting stars and stripes and no eagle thing:
http://www.history.com/news/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/battle-of-new-orleans.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Battle_of_New_Orleans.jpg
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2008/09/battleofneworleans2.jpg
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/war-of-1812-battle-of-new-orleans-1815-photo-researchers.jpg http://voiceofniagara.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/us-navy-commandant-oliver-perrys-victory-on-lake-erie-2.jpg

Idk what is historical about not having it :/ and for practical reasons wouldnt it be fairly easy to replace the state flags with a national flag?

The Stars Spangled Banner is in the mod. It is the United States faction flag and it flies over fortresses when the US is defending on siege maps. However, it was not carried by US infantry regiments when on the march. The flags in the game that are being carried by the standard bearers are the ones that were used by their respective regiments historically. If you would like to modify any of them after download that is your prerogative. All you have to do is change the texture sheet to whatever you want.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 10, 2015, 02:14:26 am
The "eagle thing" or the National Standard carried by US regular army units is what was going on from 1812-15 so that is why we are using it. If you must have the Stars and Stripes a version of it was carried by the 5th Maryland State Militia who are currently in the mod.
wouldn't it make more sense to have the eagle thing and the Star-Spangled Banner rather than the state flag?

We are doing what makes sense historically according to the research we have done with some occasional compromises for practical reasons.


Links to paintings depicting stars and stripes and no eagle thing:
http://www.history.com/news/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/battle-of-new-orleans.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Battle_of_New_Orleans.jpg
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2008/09/battleofneworleans2.jpg
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/war-of-1812-battle-of-new-orleans-1815-photo-researchers.jpg http://voiceofniagara.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/us-navy-commandant-oliver-perrys-victory-on-lake-erie-2.jpg

Idk what is historical about not having it :/ and for practical reasons wouldnt it be fairly easy to replace the state flags with a national flag?

The Stars Spangled Banner is in the mod. It is the United States faction flag and it flies over fortresses when the US is defending on siege maps. However, it was not carried by US infantry regiments when on the march. The flags in the game that are being carried by the standard bearers are the ones that were used by their respective regiments historically. If you would like to modify any of them after download that is your prerogative. All you have to do is change the texture sheet to whatever you want.
Then why does the 5th Maryland carry the Star spangled banner? And of course i could do it myself but this is a suggestion thread so yeah.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 10, 2015, 02:26:21 am
The 5th Maryland were a state militia regiment and not a part of the regular US Army and were therefore not subject to it's regulations concerning national and regimental colors.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 10, 2015, 02:42:39 am
The 5th Maryland were a state militia regiment and not a part of the regular US Army and were therefore not subject to it's regulations concerning national and regimental colors.

so is that a no for the star spangled banner?
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 10, 2015, 03:26:13 am
The 5th Maryland were a state militia regiment and not a part of the regular US Army and were therefore not subject to it's regulations concerning national and regimental colors.

so is that a no for the star spangled banner?

The mod will stay the way it currently is with respect to flags.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 10, 2015, 03:45:30 am
The 5th Maryland were a state militia regiment and not a part of the regular US Army and were therefore not subject to it's regulations concerning national and regimental colors.

so is that a no for the star spangled banner?

The mod will stay the way it currently is with respect to flags.
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Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 12, 2015, 06:21:11 pm
As you know, the Americans had indian allies during the war as well (Choctaw, Cherokee, and Muscogee) will be seeing a unit or two as a possibility to bring some balance?
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 12, 2015, 11:51:56 pm
As you know, the Americans had indian allies during the war as well (Choctaw, Cherokee, and Muscogee) will be seeing a unit or two as a possibility to bring some balance?

Yes, you are correct but if you look at the amount of the native presence on the US side, it is dwarfed by the amount of support the British were given. That is the reason we did not include them as a unit available to the US faction. Encroachment into native lands was far more of an issue in the more populous United States than it was in British North America. Most Native tribes saw their interests as aligning with the British who also wanted to slow the westward expansion of the US. If you look at the numbers referenced on the War of 1812 Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812) the strength of British native american support was over 10,000 and only 143 Choctaw and unknown amounts of other tribes for the US. You will have to read the sources referenced on the Wiki notes to get a fuller explanation of these numbers.

Also, it is very unlikely that we will be adding further units to the mod since the size of the module is already over the size of the vanilla module and a further significant size increase risks making it unstable during game play. Additional textures required for new units take up a lot of space when compared to other things like maps.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 13, 2015, 01:00:04 am
The many hats of US Militiamen:
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Edit: In conjunction with USADominic's suggestion to add more hats for the militia.

Edit 2: Also, the USA victory song is the star spangled banner. This was written in 1814. A better choice may have been Hail Colombia which was composed in 1789. It was used in the United States as a de facto national anthem for most of the 19th century. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPlQS1pzHdA
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 02:27:56 am
Oooh, I'm gonna check if the song was suggested on the Steam music suggestion discussion thread.
It was not, added to main discussion thread OP.

I would like to see variety of hats for the Frontier Militia as well than just the top hat currently. The slouch hat option for the Rifleman is a nice start.
It would be great also if the U.S. militia units of New York, Pennsylvania and perhaps the 5th Maryland? Had variety hats.
The U.S. Mounted Rangers I am not entirely sure but overall I like the suggestion to make the militia units more unique.

In other news I took note of all units and gloves and which units perhaps should have gloves where a certain unit currently does not have any.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 13, 2015, 02:57:53 pm
Hey all

So here are the hats I'd like to see for militiamen/frontiersman in the US faction. I know there is a lots of tricornes, hats but I think these would be the for historical hats.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarnaginco.com%2Fartwork%2Fcatalog%2Frev_war%2F5003.jpg&hash=d090a6ff877b4d0f46e8c4d813f748ad0edb4c36)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F38.media.tumblr.com%2Ff0fe9ff8713b55c5587f0b56da600d0e%2Ftumblr_n4yvz0trEH1qbrih3o5_400.jpg&hash=64300f71edf4e7446543c361218622392698cf69)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flongislandcostume.com%2Ffiles%2FJHatsTricorn.jpg&hash=5cf48c932ab115334fe0f3f89a77591b8d427299)

(https://whitepavilion.com/sites/default/files/styles/uc_product_full/public/tricorn%20side.JPG)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.politico.com%2Fglobal%2F2013%2F07%2F11%2F100115_mcdonnell_hat_ap_605_605.jpg&hash=3169d842ee352e0860a2f90d4ae1387f5efeb0e8)

I know tricornes weren't that popular by the 19th century, but they were still used in that time. Especially by the common frontiersman, hunters. For like a militiamen, I could imagine a simple back fur tricorne, OR a brown one or with that cockade. It would be so cool to have more "unique" customization for the units.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 13, 2015, 06:24:43 pm
We do have a new fur cap for the militia and expanding use of the slouch hat is something we might do. As far as tricorns are concerned, you will probably have to wait for one of the American Revolution mods to finish.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 13, 2015, 07:03:53 pm
We do have a new fur cap for the militia and expanding use of the slouch hat is something we might do. As far as tricorns are concerned, you will probably have to wait for one of the American Revolution mods to finish.
and what about the victory song? No problems with changing it?
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 13, 2015, 07:12:05 pm
We do have a new fur cap for the militia and expanding use of the slouch hat is something we might do. As far as tricorns are concerned, you will probably have to wait for one of the American Revolution mods to finish.
and what about the victory song? No problems with changing it?

US Navy is working on it.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 07:29:11 pm
After breakfast I'll work on it.
EDIT: Working on it right now.
Added, it is now an optional win1.ogg instead in the upcoming patch. Instrumental version. At 30 seconds in for 3-4 seconds/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5faGIfmAmMI#t=30s
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 13, 2015, 08:35:35 pm
We do have a new fur cap for the militia and expanding use of the slouch hat is something we might do. As far as tricorns are concerned, you will probably have to wait for one of the American Revolution mods to finish.

Yeah, only problem I do not see any American Revolution mod except the singleplayer one made by Gabrilduro. :(
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 13, 2015, 09:09:40 pm
I don't understand why we have to wait when many mods use tricorns eg persistent frontier
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 09:14:27 pm
The OSP mod Age of False Innocence has the headwear, but it's from the Seven Years' War era (French Indian War in North America)
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 13, 2015, 09:14:58 pm
Even L'Aigle has "Old" Tricorne and the L'Aigle is in the 1809 years almost right next to the WAr of 1812 so I guess one tricorne wouldn't hurt for the frontiersman.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 09:44:38 pm
The many hats of US Militiamen:
Spoiler
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Edit: In conjunction with USADominic's suggestion to add more hats for the militia.

As nice looking as this shako is:
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Which in full looked like this:
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(https://i.imgur.com/gospYga.png)
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It did not see service until 1820s-1830s

Quote from: Survey of U.S. Army by David Cole pg.11
The “Bell Crown” Shako replaced the “Tombstone” Shako that had been used since the
War of 1812. In 1825, to augment the shako, a forage cap was introduced for wear in the
field.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 13, 2015, 09:59:02 pm
Just to add my perspective into the tricorn and win music suggestions. Hail Columbia was not the US national anthem as the US did not have an official national anthem until 1937. Hail Columbia was considered an unofficial national anthem along with other songs. We could use any song from the period for win music like Yankee Doodle if we want.

Also, I think the rarity of the tricorn during the period of our mod doesn't warrant it's inclusion. If we make it a variant headdress it is likely to show up as often as the round hat or slouch hat which would be inaccurate.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 13, 2015, 10:03:12 pm
Well that is true if many people would use just only that it would be lots of then would be inaccurate historically, but I just highly doubt everyone would go frontiersman and then go with the tricorne the hole US faction. It would be good if we could change like which hat do we want to wear, and then everyone would choose one and it would be like unique and custom as well. Regarding the music area I guess the current Star Spangled Banner version is real nice for victory song since this was made in the war of 1812, ( i know it wasn't the national anthem till 1934) but it is nice for victory song. The intro Star Spangled Banner could go in the in-game music as well and replace the NW music with that along with other periodical songs.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 13, 2015, 10:05:30 pm
Just to add my perspective into the tricorn and win music suggestions. Hail Columbia was not the US national anthem as the US did not have an official national anthem until 1937. Hail Columbia was considered an unofficial national anthem along with other songs. We could use any song from the period for win music like Yankee Doodle if we want.

Also, I think the rarity of the tricorn during the period of our mod doesn't warrant it's inclusion. If we make it a variant headdress it is likely to show up as often as the round hat or slouch hat which would be inaccurate.
hail colombia was the most popular and fits better since it's not available to be played by musicians. The trio corn wa also worn during the war by civilians on both sides
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 13, 2015, 10:44:49 pm
Hail Columbia is a crappy song and we already have 3 variant hats for the frontier militia. No tricorns are needed.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 11:22:36 pm
Good thing I can make optional replaceable variants for the win music then  ::)
It seems there is an opinion gridlock here.

Currently "The Star-Spangled Banner" will stay as the default U.S. faction win music.
I will keep "Hail Columbia" as a variant win1 music that can replace the above with a simple rename
('cuz the mod folder is easy like that)


Quote from: Patch Readme
~~~~~ DIFFERENT U.S. WIN1 MUSIC SELECTIONS ~~~~~
If you want a different win1 sound, open your mod folder and open the Sounds folder. Rename as desired and vice versa to revert.

(From default "Star-Spangled Banner" to "Hail Columbia")
1.Rename win1 to win1_us_star_spangled_banner
2.Rename win1_us_hail_columbia to win1

(From "Hail Columbia" to "Star-Spangled Banner")
1.Rename win1 to win1_us_hail_columbia
2.Rename win1_star_spangled_banner to win1


As for the hat choosing, that is not possible. The troop inventory is preset and is not selectable menu like the colours are and would be too much hassle for little gain. I can instead make it more or less likely to have different hats appear.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 14, 2015, 12:21:38 am
That is good, would be available like 4 hats for frontiersman, and you wouldn't be able to choose it only randomly so it wouldn't be massive spam of that particular hat, instead it would be random.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 14, 2015, 01:18:17 am
Hail Columbia is a crappy song and we already have 3 variant hats for the frontier militia. No tricorns are needed.

That "crappy song" was written before the Star Spangled Banner and would have actually been used at the time the mod takes place in. Also, the more hats the better to add more variety and a more "militia" feel to the militia themselves. I understand the hats part but I'm not really following why Hail Colombia wouldnt be added to replaced the SSB.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 14, 2015, 03:54:21 am
O' the irony. I like the song Hail Columbia well enough but after listening to it over and over again I cannot get the lyrics out of my head right now. /Modding.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 14, 2015, 11:13:23 pm
O' the irony. I like the song Hail Columbia well enough but after listening to it over and over again I cannot get the lyrics out of my head right now. /Modding.

swag
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 15, 2015, 07:58:31 pm
One thing I noticed on the map Border Skirmish was that an invisible wall blocks about half of the bridge on team 1's spawn. I would suggest moving the bridge out a little more to prevent congestion at the start of rounds that could potentially have many people on that team. i drew an approximation of where the invisible wall was for reference. Thanks!

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(https://i.imgur.com/JJkLOBU.jpg)
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Edit: it seems to have fixed itself after the round ended?

Edit 2: When i ran into the invisible wall (normal one on the mpa edge) the original one from the picture returned. Slightly confusing.

Edit 3: Tried it at the same location on horse and about 5 seconds after spawn it appeared and pushed me off the bridge.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on January 21, 2015, 07:29:25 am
Ever though about these units for maybe a sub-mod people can use? 8th King's Regiment of Foot. 49th Regiment of Foot.

A re-skin adding both the 8th and 49th Foot is now available in the War of 1812 mini-mod thread.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 21, 2015, 07:40:51 am
Ever though about these units for maybe a sub-mod people can use? 8th King's Regiment of Foot. 49th Regiment of Foot.

A re-skin adding both the 8th and 49th Foot is now available in the War of 1812 mini-mod thread.
Fantastic job Blitz! And here's the mini-modifications link
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=20803.0

The suggestion:

Canoes for Natives (Driveable)

Has been approved for looking into.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 22, 2015, 08:17:51 pm
Bug I found today:
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(https://i.imgur.com/3p4zDF2.jpg)
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His class is tecumseh (?) and he is missing part of his waist. Also it wasnt just the position he was in, as it happened when running/walking/aiming etc.

Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: usnavy30 on January 22, 2015, 08:24:07 pm
Bug I found today:
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(https://i.imgur.com/3p4zDF2.jpg)
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His class is tecumseh (?) and he is missing part of his waist. Also it wasnt just the position he was in, as it happened when running/walking/aiming etc.

Thanks for reading!
My god, he was the Melee Warrior not Tecumseh. Your text files must of got screwed up.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on January 22, 2015, 08:28:54 pm
Bug I found today:
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(https://i.imgur.com/3p4zDF2.jpg)
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His class is tecumseh (?) and he is missing part of his waist. Also it wasnt just the position he was in, as it happened when running/walking/aiming etc.

Thanks for reading!
My god, he was the Melee Warrior not Tecumseh. Your text files must of got screwed up.

D:
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 24, 2015, 05:03:21 am
Bug I found today:
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(https://i.imgur.com/3p4zDF2.jpg)
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His class is tecumseh (?) and he is missing part of his waist. Also it wasnt just the position he was in, as it happened when running/walking/aiming etc.

Thanks for reading!
My god, he was the Melee Warrior not Tecumseh. Your text files must of got screwed up.

D:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY LMAO
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: DarthTaco on January 24, 2015, 07:29:50 pm
Don't you talk 'bout my swaggin bitch ass like that.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on March 02, 2015, 01:22:44 am
Naval Focus

I suggest to focus more on the Naval Aspect of the war. Maybe add a few naval battle maps specifically. USS Constitution vs HMS Guerriere would be a great start. Add more naval units and maybe some randomizations for the sailors on both sides. This could be weapons/uniforms. Maybe add some more generals as well. Spur this mod with a fresh dose of green and blue water. Naval battles were a huge part of the war and this could bring new regiments and players to the mod as well as give it the unique twist the mod needs to rejuvinate itself. I can't see any downsides to this idea but if you can find some I'd be more than happy to revise my idea.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N75v8e07Zu8
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution_vs_HMS_Guerriere#mediaviewer/File:USS_Constitution_vs_Guerriere.jpg
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Reference image of sailors (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.torontopubliclibrary.ca%2Fcontent%2Fve%2Fwar-stories%2Fimages%2FH1-Boarding-and-taking-the-American-ship-Chesapeake.jpg&hash=c016a4e896e950ac100c7b3d69df6b8b6cbc0e53)
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Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on March 03, 2015, 06:10:28 am
A new naval map called Boarding Action has just been finished for incorporation into the next version of War of 1812. It is just what it's title suggests, a map of two frigates side by side. There are ladders and planks positioned to allow movement between the ships and up in the rigging. The object in conquest mode would be to capture the other ship's flag. There will also likely be team deathmatch and battle game modes as well.

Doing a map with movable frigates supplied with cannon and crews can not be handled with the current game engine as the developers have pointed out so recreating a Constitution vs Guerriere type of sailing battle can not be done. However, there are maps in the current version that do use schooners and movable longboats such as Lake Borgne and Fort York that you may not be aware of yet.

As far as units are concerned, we will be adding a colonial marine to the British faction in the next version. This was a unit made up mostly of escaped slaves from coastal plantations. They were often used in raids during the Chesapeake campaign but will be available in both late and early war configurations. This unit will be uniformed in a white fatigue jacket with blue facings and will not have face customization. The rest of the uniform will be as the other British marines except they will not have a knapsack.
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: KurassierNixon on March 03, 2015, 05:01:44 pm
A new naval map called Boarding Action has just been finished for incorporation into the next version of War of 1812. It is just what it's title suggests, a map of two frigates side by side. There are ladders and planks positioned to allow movement between the ships and up in the rigging. The object in conquest mode would be to capture the other ship's flag. There will also likely be team deathmatch and battle game modes as well.

Doing a map with movable frigates supplied with cannon and crews can not be handled with the current game engine as the developers have pointed out so recreating a Constitution vs Guerriere type of sailing battle can not be done. However, there are maps in the current version that do use schooners and movable longboats such as Lake Borgne and Fort York that you may not be aware of yet.

As far as units are concerned, we will be adding a colonial marine to the British faction in the next version. This was a unit made up mostly of escaped slaves from coastal plantations. They were often used in raids during the Chesapeake campaign but will be available in both late and early war configurations. This unit will be uniformed in a white fatigue jacket with blue facings and will not have face customization. The rest of the uniform will be as the other British marines except they will not have a knapsack.
ok swag
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Blitz_craig on March 08, 2015, 08:34:13 pm
A new naval map called Boarding Action has just been finished for incorporation into the next version of War of 1812. It is just what it's title suggests, a map of two frigates side by side. There are ladders and planks positioned to allow movement between the ships and up in the rigging. The object in conquest mode would be to capture the other ship's flag. There will also likely be team deathmatch and battle game modes as well.

Doing a map with movable frigates supplied with cannon and crews can not be handled with the current game engine as the developers have pointed out so recreating a Constitution vs Guerriere type of sailing battle can not be done. However, there are maps in the current version that do use schooners and movable longboats such as Lake Borgne and Fort York that you may not be aware of yet.

As far as units are concerned, we will be adding a colonial marine to the British faction in the next version. This was a unit made up mostly of escaped slaves from coastal plantations. They were often used in raids during the Chesapeake campaign but will be available in both late and early war configurations. This unit will be uniformed in a white fatigue jacket with blue facings and will not have face customization. The rest of the uniform will be as the other British marines except they will not have a knapsack.
ok swag

Pictures of the new map.

Boarding Action
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(https://i.imgur.com/DWjZR6k.png)(https://i.imgur.com/PaBHB1s.png)
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Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: Ry1459 on March 08, 2015, 08:58:10 pm
Now that looks awesome  8)
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 09, 2015, 10:42:21 pm
Looks fine gentlemen :D cant wait for it :P
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 10, 2015, 12:49:23 pm
Ooh, fancy, can't wait for it!
Title: Re: War of 1812: Suggestions
Post by: TheRedRedcoat on March 18, 2015, 04:21:07 am
Any possibility of a dev run event? There doesn't seem to be any action NA side  :'(