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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2020, 11:48:53 am »
scottish ur fucking retarded lol its not jolly or risk control freaks the tournaments its no1 else wants to do it except for kristine in this case wich was hacking so hell no to that  also 1v1 the 12e
1v1s are for actual regiments tho, not groupfighting teams
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« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2020, 01:39:08 pm »
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host

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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2020, 01:46:42 pm »
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host

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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2020, 01:50:13 pm »
I think you may be over exaggerating it a little rikkert, I was very much in favour of the lion tournament

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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2020, 01:59:01 pm »
Sorry yes, stop cyberbully pls

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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2020, 02:02:02 pm »
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host


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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2020, 04:12:57 pm »
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
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« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2020, 04:17:10 pm »
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host


Are you trying to tell me Lion Tournament wasn’t good?  ???  ???
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Re: You don't own me.
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2020, 06:36:31 pm »
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that

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« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2020, 07:17:58 pm »
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that

Also Vetro has done this I think

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« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2020, 08:16:46 pm »
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that

Also Vetro has done this I think
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« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2020, 08:56:49 pm »
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.

He got help from a bunch of people in the community. The league was going well, too. MATT got a lot of shit and had a huge witch hunt happen to try and prove he was a hacker and get him banned from everything. Vetro actually was bullied for like 2 years even without the hacking shit. That made it worse for a bit too. Kristine has gotten off easy compared to them both tbh. Only made it worse for himself by trolling the forums right after. If he didn’t do that I honestly think it would have blown over pretty quick. Kristine is a good kid, but he got the same punishment any cheater would’ve gotten. Things will go back to normal for him in time like it did for MATT and Vetro.
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« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2020, 09:08:56 pm »
I dont think kristines tourneys were bad imo from the two ive seen him host and this draft league was going well. But cheating is high treason in NW.
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« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2020, 09:10:59 pm »
Vetro is just a lovable idiot

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« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2020, 10:13:43 pm »