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Title: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 04:38:44 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 12, 2020, 04:40:05 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.

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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 04:51:48 pm
Don't get it twisted, I wanna be in your leagues cause that's all that's going on. But lose the Ego's dudes it's a video games.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 05:22:29 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 05:40:53 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
They tried to bully a kid and steal his league because he "had autoblock". Autoblock has nothing to do with ones capability to run a league, it's an excuse to be in control. Bluenose made a league, then Jolly made one IMMEDIATELY after. Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol. No, you guys are just letting these very rude people run everything, when it should be ran by competent people who are actually going to listen to other input and not just be control freaks.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 05:54:32 pm
My plan to make a league began began before bluenose even posted his. I did not bully him, I was against what happened on his thread. I had listen to him and mayhem and I talked to mayhem about because they were supposed to run it together then bluenose continued with his anyways.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 05:55:43 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
They tried to bully a kid and steal his league because he "had autoblock". Autoblock has nothing to do with ones capability to run a league, it's an excuse to be in control. Bluenose made a league, then Jolly made one IMMEDIATELY after. Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol. No, you guys are just letting these very rude people run everything, when it should be ran by competent people who are actually going to listen to other input and not just be control freaks.
The reason is not to be in control it's to ensure integrity within the competitive community.. it wouldn't really reflect well on our community if we allowed cheaters who admitted to using hacks to run our league(s). NW has no precedents set for cheating in video games so the community has to step up and set those themselves. In any other video game cheating/hacking most often results in bans from the community/game so Kristine is lucky he didn't get completely black-balled. You should leave the discussion of this matter to people who actually know what they're talking about, you said it yourself you don't know much about the competitive scene so why don't you let the people who DO know much about the competitive scene discuss and make decisions on this matter.

Clearly this has nothing to do with "bullying kids" for "control" ... you really do not realize how much people like Jolly and Risk have done for this community as a whole and will likely continue to do. You should be appreciative of the fact that they even devote time to run events within this community especially when it's riddled with ungrateful fucks like you.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 05:56:12 pm
My plan to make a league began began before bluenose even posted his. I did not bully him, I was against what happened on his thread. I had listen to him and mayhem and I talked to mayhem about because they were supposed to run it together then bluenose continued with his anyways.
You were helping bluenose up until he made it public bro. You tormented the poor ignorant child. Why lead someone on to believe you're gonna help him? That's so mean man, this is a video game, but he's still a human you don't need to bully him.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 05:57:18 pm
My plan to make a league began began before bluenose even posted his. I did not bully him, I was against what happened on his thread. I had listen to him and mayhem and I talked to mayhem about because they were supposed to run it together then bluenose continued with his anyways.
You were helping bluenose up until he made it public bro. You tormented the poor ignorant child. Why lead someone on to believe you're gonna help him? That's so mean man, this is a video game, but he's still a human you don't need to bully him.
what are you talking about
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 05:59:35 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
They tried to bully a kid and steal his league because he "had autoblock". Autoblock has nothing to do with ones capability to run a league, it's an excuse to be in control. Bluenose made a league, then Jolly made one IMMEDIATELY after. Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol. No, you guys are just letting these very rude people run everything, when it should be ran by competent people who are actually going to listen to other input and not just be control freaks.
The reason is not to be in control it's to ensure integrity within the competitive community.. it wouldn't really reflect well on our community if we allowed cheaters who admitted to using hacks to run our league(s). NW has no precedents set for cheating in video games so the community has to step up and set those themselves. In any other video game cheating/hacking most often results in bans from the community/game so Kristine is lucky he didn't get completely black-balled. You should leave the discussion of this matter to people who actually know what they're talking about, you said it yourself you don't know much about the competitive scene so why don't you let the people who DO know much about the competitive scene discuss and make decisions on this matter.

Clearly this has nothing to do with "bullying kids" for "control" ... you really do not realize how much people like Jolly and Risk have done for this community as a whole and will likely continue to do. You should be appreciative of the fact that they even devote time to run events within this community especially when it's riddled with ungrateful fucks like you.
Y'all are just better at melee, THAT'S IT. You don't lead successful communities, you don't know how to lead 1v1's, you're not in the regular scene of NW where the majority of numbers are at, and you all do nothing but disband and reform constantly. Stop acting like you're above people because you know how to fucking melee. None of you ever hosted until like 2018, and even then Jolly you just recently started doing leagues, Risk has only done RGL and NANWL, which are fine, but NANWL is not "his" like he seems to think it is. Autistic remarks are very common in your little friend group bro, idk what y'all be smoking but god damn. Just stop being control freaks and let other people host fun stuff too you incosiderate fucks.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 06:00:34 pm
We'll save the bluenose topic til he's online
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Chantakey on September 12, 2020, 06:03:14 pm
#DefundTheJolly

These egregious actions by this dirty man who calls himself Jolly shall no longer go unnoticed, stand up my brothers riot, pillage the streets, plunder the cities, and rape the 0 women that play warband.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Cwater on September 12, 2020, 06:03:51 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
They tried to bully a kid and steal his league because he "had autoblock". Autoblock has nothing to do with ones capability to run a league, it's an excuse to be in control. Bluenose made a league, then Jolly made one IMMEDIATELY after. Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol. No, you guys are just letting these very rude people run everything, when it should be ran by competent people who are actually going to listen to other input and not just be control freaks.
The reason is not to be in control it's to ensure integrity within the competitive community.. it wouldn't really reflect well on our community if we allowed cheaters who admitted to using hacks to run our league(s). NW has no precedents set for cheating in video games so the community has to step up and set those themselves. In any other video game cheating/hacking most often results in bans from the community/game so Kristine is lucky he didn't get completely black-balled. You should leave the discussion of this matter to people who actually know what they're talking about, you said it yourself you don't know much about the competitive scene so why don't you let the people who DO know much about the competitive scene discuss and make decisions on this matter.

Clearly this has nothing to do with "bullying kids" for "control" ... you really do not realize how much people like Jolly and Risk have done for this community as a whole and will likely continue to do. You should be appreciative of the fact that they even devote time to run events within this community especially when it's riddled with ungrateful fucks like you.
better at melee     you know how to fucking melee

Yo Windflower get the camera, someone thinks you're good at melee.


On another note

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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 06:05:20 pm
For the past I dunno 4ish years I've done my best to try and increase community involvement on fse, getting more pub regiments doing semi comp events. I've hosted pub events, I've been an admin for pub event for 4 years. This isn't new to me, I don't get anything out of this. All I want to do is keep pushing a community for those who are still active in it. I was a pub boy before comp and honestly I aint big news in comp, it's not for me.

Don't start coming at people for ego and control if you don't talk to them before hand to understand what it is they do. I don't care much to argue with you on fse or over text. If you really want to discuss this them lets do it in TS and do it properly.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Chantakey on September 12, 2020, 06:07:03 pm
For the past I dunno 4ish years I've done my best to try and increase community involvement on fse, getting more pub regiments doing semi comp events. I've hosted pub events, I've been an admin for pub event for 4 years. This isn't new to me, I don't get anything out of this. All I want to do is keep pushing a community for those who are still active in it. I was a pub boy before comp and honestly I aint big news in comp, it's not for me.

Don't start coming at people for ego and control if you don't talk to them before hand to understand what it is they do. I don't care much to argue with you on fse or over text. If you really want to discuss this them lets do it in TS and do it properly.
We shall no longer meet with you, your cowardess ways are no longer accepted, you have 2 options here, defund yourself and resign or the streets shall burn

BEAN LIVES MATTER
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 06:08:05 pm
There's no reason to argue, just stop bullying kids and stop being a control freak it's honestly so simple. Idk you personally, this isn't a personal attack. It's an attack on you being too controlling, your buddy Risk as well. Y'all need to step off your damn high horse and realize we play a 2010 game so maybe just making breakoffs of leagues when you wanna host them isn't the best idea for the already somewhat dead community.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: [Stryker] on September 12, 2020, 06:08:19 pm
For the past I dunno 4ish years I've done my best to try and increase community involvement on fse, getting more pub regiments doing semi comp events. I've hosted pub events, I've been an admin for pub event for 4 years. This isn't new to me, I don't get anything out of this. All I want to do is keep pushing a community for those who are still active in it. I was a pub boy before comp and honestly I aint big news in comp, it's not for me.

Don't start coming at people for ego and control if you don't talk to them before hand to understand what it is they do. I don't care much to argue with you on fse or over text. If you really want to discuss this them lets do it in TS and do it properly.
We shall no longer meet with you, your cowardess ways are no longer accepted, you have 2 options here, defund yourself and resign or the streets shall burn

BEAN LIVES MATTER
Can't burn the streets if it's already been burning for a night
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Chantakey on September 12, 2020, 06:08:49 pm
For the past I dunno 4ish years I've done my best to try and increase community involvement on fse, getting more pub regiments doing semi comp events. I've hosted pub events, I've been an admin for pub event for 4 years. This isn't new to me, I don't get anything out of this. All I want to do is keep pushing a community for those who are still active in it. I was a pub boy before comp and honestly I aint big news in comp, it's not for me.

Don't start coming at people for ego and control if you don't talk to them before hand to understand what it is they do. I don't care much to argue with you on fse or over text. If you really want to discuss this them lets do it in TS and do it properly.
We shall no longer meet with you, your cowardess ways are no longer accepted, you have 2 options here, defund yourself and resign or the streets shall burn

BEAN LIVES MATTER
Can't burn the streets if it's already been burning for a night
You right you right, time to just pillage. Im stealing all of your NANWL trophies.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 06:09:24 pm
Just because you think somethings a good idea, doesn't mean it is. You're not god, you have no actual power over the community. Just stop being toxic and acting like you do.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: [Stryker] on September 12, 2020, 06:09:34 pm
For the past I dunno 4ish years I've done my best to try and increase community involvement on fse, getting more pub regiments doing semi comp events. I've hosted pub events, I've been an admin for pub event for 4 years. This isn't new to me, I don't get anything out of this. All I want to do is keep pushing a community for those who are still active in it. I was a pub boy before comp and honestly I aint big news in comp, it's not for me.

Don't start coming at people for ego and control if you don't talk to them before hand to understand what it is they do. I don't care much to argue with you on fse or over text. If you really want to discuss this them lets do it in TS and do it properly.
We shall no longer meet with you, your cowardess ways are no longer accepted, you have 2 options here, defund yourself and resign or the streets shall burn

BEAN LIVES MATTER
Can't burn the streets if it's already been burning for a night
You right you right, time to just pillage. Im stealing all of your NANWL trophies.
Imagine thinking I have NANWL trophies
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 06:09:58 pm
Spoiler
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
They tried to bully a kid and steal his league because he "had autoblock". Autoblock has nothing to do with ones capability to run a league, it's an excuse to be in control. Bluenose made a league, then Jolly made one IMMEDIATELY after. Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol. No, you guys are just letting these very rude people run everything, when it should be ran by competent people who are actually going to listen to other input and not just be control freaks.
The reason is not to be in control it's to ensure integrity within the competitive community.. it wouldn't really reflect well on our community if we allowed cheaters who admitted to using hacks to run our league(s). NW has no precedents set for cheating in video games so the community has to step up and set those themselves. In any other video game cheating/hacking most often results in bans from the community/game so Kristine is lucky he didn't get completely black-balled. You should leave the discussion of this matter to people who actually know what they're talking about, you said it yourself you don't know much about the competitive scene so why don't you let the people who DO know much about the competitive scene discuss and make decisions on this matter.

Clearly this has nothing to do with "bullying kids" for "control" ... you really do not realize how much people like Jolly and Risk have done for this community as a whole and will likely continue to do. You should be appreciative of the fact that they even devote time to run events within this community especially when it's riddled with ungrateful fucks like you.
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Y'all are just better at melee, THAT'S IT. You don't lead successful communities, you don't know how to lead 1v1's, you're not in the regular scene of NW where the majority of numbers are at, and you all do nothing but disband and reform constantly. Stop acting like you're above people because you know how to fucking melee. None of you ever hosted until like 2018, and even then Jolly you just recently started doing leagues, Risk has only done RGL and NANWL, which are fine, but NANWL is not "his" like he seems to think it is. Autistic remarks are very common in your little friend group bro, idk what y'all be smoking but god damn. Just stop being control freaks and let other people host fun stuff too you incosiderate fucks.
I think I lost brain cells reading this.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 06:10:23 pm
Idk you personally, this isn't a personal attack. It's an attack on you being too controlling, your buddy Risk as well.
100% a personal attack. You start this shit on fse but you don't want to end it through discussion? Seems like you're just trying to start shit.
Risk and I aren't even very good friends.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Cwater on September 12, 2020, 06:11:18 pm
For the past I dunno 4ish years I've done my best to try and increase community involvement on fse, getting more pub regiments doing semi comp events. I've hosted pub events, I've been an admin for pub event for 4 years. This isn't new to me, I don't get anything out of this. All I want to do is keep pushing a community for those who are still active in it. I was a pub boy before comp and honestly I aint big news in comp, it's not for me.

Don't start coming at people for ego and control if you don't talk to them before hand to understand what it is they do. I don't care much to argue with you on fse or over text. If you really want to discuss this them lets do it in TS and do it properly.
We shall no longer meet with you, your cowardess ways are no longer accepted, you have 2 options here, defund yourself and resign or the streets shall burn

BEAN LIVES MATTER
Can't burn the streets if it's already been burning for a night
You right you right, time to just pillage. Im stealing all of your NANWL trophies.
Imagine thinking I have NANWL trophies
Spoiler
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: [Stryker] on September 12, 2020, 06:11:30 pm
Who wants to loot a Target with me?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: J. Campbell on September 12, 2020, 06:12:25 pm
Only "shit" I'm trying to start is the fact that I"ve had legit conversations w a lot of people and they all are well aware that you're being control freaks, but their reaction is "Eh, whatcha gonna do". Bro deadass y'all are just trying to make me seem crazy and stupid lol, you want people who disagree with you to seem stupid when in all reality this is all just one big manipulation game for you to be in power of a dead game. You're butthurt for me calling you out on FSE, but you had no issue calling out Kristine for hacking on FSE so what's the difference of the two?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Piktonss on September 12, 2020, 06:14:26 pm
Only "shit" I'm trying to start is the fact that I"ve had legit conversations w a lot of people and they all are well aware that you're being control freaks, but their reaction is "Eh, whatcha gonna do". Bro deadass y'all are just trying to make me seem crazy and stupid lol, you want people who disagree with you to seem stupid when in all reality this is all just one big manipulation game for you to be in power of a dead game. You're butthurt for me calling you out on FSE, but you had no issue calling out Kristine for hacking on FSE so what's the difference of the two?
No ones trying to make you look crazy and stupid. You are crazy and stupid
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 06:14:27 pm
I'm always opened to criticism. I'm not mad, a bit frustrated sure not mad. I want to talk about this and you won't so why should I take you seriously?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Cwater on September 12, 2020, 06:14:52 pm
Only "shit" I'm trying to start is the fact that I"ve had legit conversations w a lot of people and they all are well aware that you're being control freaks, but their reaction is "Eh, whatcha gonna do". Bro deadass y'all are just trying to make me seem crazy and stupid lol, you want people who disagree with you to seem stupid when in all reality this is all just one big manipulation game for you to be in power of a dead game. You're butthurt for me calling you out on FSE, but you had no issue calling out Kristine for hacking on FSE so what's the difference of the two?
Spoiler
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: BabyJesus on September 12, 2020, 06:15:27 pm
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: [Stryker] on September 12, 2020, 06:16:32 pm
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 12, 2020, 06:19:09 pm
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments

Jolly and Risk are Dan’s puppets. He’s been in charge of NW for years.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 06:19:51 pm
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments

Jolly and Risk are Dan’s puppets. He’s been in charge of NW for years.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 06:23:21 pm
Only "shit" I'm trying to start is the fact that I"ve had legit conversations w a lot of people and they all are well aware that you're being control freaks, but their reaction is "Eh, whatcha gonna do". Bro deadass y'all are just trying to make me seem crazy and stupid lol, you want people who disagree with you to seem stupid when in all reality this is all just one big manipulation game for you to be in power of a dead game. You're butthurt for me calling you out on FSE, but you had no issue calling out Kristine for hacking on FSE so what's the difference of the two?
You really don't know anything about the competitive community please stop making posts

The toxicity coming from people like you drive us away from hosting events which in turn will only weaken the community. Collectively Risk, Jolly, and I have hosted a fuck ton of events that have single handedly extended the shelf life of the community but since you have no knowledge of this you are unable to make an accurate statement, yet you feel inclined to involve yourself in this discussion for some reason.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 12, 2020, 06:23:47 pm
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments

Jolly and Risk are Dan’s puppets. He’s been in charge of NW for years.
jolly and fartknocker are gonna be found with 5 self-inflicted gunshots to the head after saying this publically
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Sgt.Winters on September 12, 2020, 06:25:36 pm
Would you consider yourself a subscriber to the philosophy of Posadism?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 06:34:08 pm
I"ve had legit conversations w a lot of people and they all are well aware that you're being control freaks, but their reaction is "Eh, whatcha gonna do".
I'd love to talk to you and them(no need to name them) in a channel and they can voice what they see is wrong and middle ground can always be found.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: BabyJesus on September 12, 2020, 06:44:21 pm
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments

Jolly and Risk are Dan’s puppets. He’s been in charge of NW for years.
jolly and fartknocker are gonna be found with 5 self-inflicted gunshots to the head after saying this publically
and they are gonna be called suicides
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Aurum on September 12, 2020, 07:06:54 pm
Would you consider yourself a subscriber to the philosophy of Posadism?

wtf winters is a nuclear communist
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 12, 2020, 07:10:11 pm
I"ve had legit conversations w a lot of people and they all are well aware that you're being control freaks, but their reaction is "Eh, whatcha gonna do".
I'd love to talk to you and them(no need to name them) in a channel and they can voice what they see is wrong and middle ground can always be found.

Jolly is trying to lure you in to brainwash you! Don’t go near him! Don’t listen to his foul words and spells!
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 07:10:58 pm
Would you consider yourself a subscriber to the philosophy of Posadism?

wtf winters is a nuclear communist

Can you talk to dolphins? Didn't think so
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Skaen on September 12, 2020, 07:15:53 pm
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 12, 2020, 07:21:03 pm
Scottish and I are talking about this now over steam.

I'll be moving the thread to Mess hall where it belongs. Up to Scottish on what he wants to do with it. Please refrain from posting excessive memes and continue the thread as it was intended.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on September 12, 2020, 07:45:51 pm
Lot of content for the NW Awards
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Tardet on September 12, 2020, 07:45:55 pm
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This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.
You don't really know much about the competetive community it seems from this post
Seems pretty childish too
They tried to bully a kid and steal his league because he "had autoblock". Autoblock has nothing to do with ones capability to run a league, it's an excuse to be in control. Bluenose made a league, then Jolly made one IMMEDIATELY after. Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol. No, you guys are just letting these very rude people run everything, when it should be ran by competent people who are actually going to listen to other input and not just be control freaks.
The reason is not to be in control it's to ensure integrity within the competitive community.. it wouldn't really reflect well on our community if we allowed cheaters who admitted to using hacks to run our league(s). NW has no precedents set for cheating in video games so the community has to step up and set those themselves. In any other video game cheating/hacking most often results in bans from the community/game so Kristine is lucky he didn't get completely black-balled. You should leave the discussion of this matter to people who actually know what they're talking about, you said it yourself you don't know much about the competitive scene so why don't you let the people who DO know much about the competitive scene discuss and make decisions on this matter.

Clearly this has nothing to do with "bullying kids" for "control" ... you really do not realize how much people like Jolly and Risk have done for this community as a whole and will likely continue to do. You should be appreciative of the fact that they even devote time to run events within this community especially when it's riddled with ungrateful fucks like you.
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Y'all are just better at melee, THAT'S IT. You don't lead successful communities, you don't know how to lead 1v1's, you're not in the regular scene of NW where the majority of numbers are at, and you all do nothing but disband and reform constantly. Stop acting like you're above people because you know how to fucking melee. None of you ever hosted until like 2018, and even then Jolly you just recently started doing leagues, Risk has only done RGL and NANWL, which are fine, but NANWL is not "his" like he seems to think it is. Autistic remarks are very common in your little friend group bro, idk what y'all be smoking but god damn. Just stop being control freaks and let other people host fun stuff too you incosiderate fucks.
I think I lost brain cells reading this.
He literally failed to address even a single of the points you made, that's an achievement on its own.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 12, 2020, 08:33:17 pm
Scottish nobody wanted to join a league lead by Bluenose. Dude legit has acted retarded and trolled most competitive leagues his regiments were apart of. Why in the fuck would we join a league run by him when all he has done in the past 3-4 years is troll....
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: 13thFL_Terico_Mayhem on September 12, 2020, 08:37:54 pm
Don't get it twisted, I wanna be in your leagues cause that's all that's going on. But lose the Ego's dudes it's a video games.
Well you won't be in their leagues if you keep bashing them on public forums, they will target you and make sure you cannot attend them like how they managed to get me excluded from the 6v6 tourney but I no longer even have the time for such things sadly so friendly advice take it from someone whos been down this road.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: 13thFL_Terico_Mayhem on September 12, 2020, 08:41:13 pm
My plan to make a league began began before bluenose even posted his. I did not bully him, I was against what happened on his thread. I had listen to him and mayhem and I talked to mayhem about because they were supposed to run it together then bluenose continued with his anyways.
Short of by chance they both had the same idea at the same time I really wouldn't say either of them took the idea from one another was just dumb luck that it happened around the same time. Yea bluenose wanted to run and do everything himself so i let him and focused on other things I'm sorry nw community but anything is possible at any given time so don't be discouraged and look towards the future.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 12, 2020, 08:42:16 pm
Don't get it twisted, I wanna be in your leagues cause that's all that's going on. But lose the Ego's dudes it's a video games.
Well you won't be in there leagues if you keep bashing them on public forums, they will target you and make sure you cannot attend them like how they managed to get me excluded from the 6v6 tourney but I no longer even have the time for such things sadly so friendly advice take it from someone whos been down this road.
You weren't picked because of how you act. However, I do think you should of been at least a round 7 or 8 pick melee wise. You are legit a Kevin/FireZ 2.0.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: 13thFL_Terico_Mayhem on September 12, 2020, 08:47:36 pm
Who wants to loot a Target with me?
Did that when I was a kid, used to steal pokemon cards out of the packs even got a old school charizard card but got caught eventually, they gave me a slap on the wrist but I was akid and scared back then so I didn't retry it lol...
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 12, 2020, 08:52:28 pm
Holy crap this is the worst cringe I've seen in a while bro, cringe of the year is now a 3 man race, incredible
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 12, 2020, 09:04:27 pm
Hey Mayhem, if you want to join the Waste Management practice squad, hit me up on steam.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Rutger Müller on September 12, 2020, 09:26:34 pm
out of all the people to say "you're just good at melee" to: Windflower and JollyCanadian
FINALLY SOME RECOGNITION FOR THE GOATS
https://youtu.be/WRbuvKYKI54
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 09:39:55 pm
out of all the people to say "you're just good at melee" to: Windflower and JollyCanadian
FINALLY SOME RECOGNITION FOR THE GOATS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mori-YzHdaI
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Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mori-YzHdaI
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: sidney crosby on September 12, 2020, 09:44:16 pm
you just got moved up to 9th in the rotation on ur team congrats man
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Glenn on September 12, 2020, 09:50:16 pm
the community has gone downhill since Mayhem posted his retirement thread
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: fireboy on September 12, 2020, 10:25:01 pm
the community has gone downhill since Mayhem posted his retirement thread
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Copot on September 12, 2020, 10:25:56 pm
My plan to make a league began began before bluenose even posted his. I did not bully him, I was against what happened on his thread. I had listen to him and mayhem and I talked to mayhem about because they were supposed to run it together then bluenose continued with his anyways.

I can confirm that I discussed a plan for a league with Jolly well before bluenose posted his.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Golden. on September 12, 2020, 10:44:48 pm
lol
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Cytiuz on September 12, 2020, 10:48:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khNP27_yOnQ
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 12, 2020, 10:53:18 pm
You and Jolly are talking over steam, so that's cool.


But you don't know shit about Risk to be talking about him the way you have been on this thread. You're way out of line with what you've said about pretty much everything on this thread from Jolly and Risk being egomaniac manipulative control freaks who don't want to let anyone host anything, to Jolly and Windflower being good at melee. This is literally all nonsense and honestly should never have been posted. You don't know the people you're talking about and you don't know the community you're talking about, as already stated by yourself.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 12, 2020, 10:58:32 pm
You and Jolly are talking over steam, so that's cool.


But you don't know shit about Risk to be talking about him the way you have been on this thread. You're way out of line with what you've said about pretty much everything on this thread from Jolly and Risk being egomaniac manipulative control freaks who don't want to let anyone host anything, to Jolly and Windflower being good at melee. This is literally all nonsense and honestly should never have been posted. You don't know the people you're talking about and you don't know the community you're talking about, as already stated by yourself.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Vegi. on September 12, 2020, 11:04:11 pm
Wtf is na inbred fucjerz
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 12, 2020, 11:11:19 pm
You and Jolly are talking over steam, so that's cool.


But you don't know shit about Risk to be talking about him the way you have been on this thread. You're way out of line with what you've said about pretty much everything on this thread from Jolly and Risk being egomaniac manipulative control freaks who don't want to let anyone host anything, to Jolly and Windflower being good at melee. This is literally all nonsense and honestly should never have been posted. You don't know the people you're talking about and you don't know the community you're talking about, as already stated by yourself.
Yeah, I don't know much about the comp community lol.

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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kulouš on September 12, 2020, 11:34:14 pm
Now I understand the US school shooting. 90% of murican posts are made by ppl with mental illness
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Glenn on September 12, 2020, 11:36:41 pm
Now I understand the US school shooting. 90% of murican posts are made by ppl with mental illness

J Campbell is Scottish but good try
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Risk_ on September 12, 2020, 11:54:01 pm
This is for fairness and equality for you to see this. Risk and Jolly, you don't run the comp community. Risk, you don't "Own" the NANWL name lose your fucking ego, that's a community name as stated in the 2013 thread addition. Run a NANWL or give up the league name you fucking cuck. Jolly, stop acting like you're some hot shot big shot, you ain't shit. BBG has died because BBG admins are shit, you aren't excluded. Stop bullying Kristine so you can feel more powerful. Fucking idiots.

XD ?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Pinoy12 on September 13, 2020, 12:23:51 am
You and Jolly are talking over steam, so that's cool.


But you don't know shit about Risk to be talking about him the way you have been on this thread. You're way out of line with what you've said about pretty much everything on this thread from Jolly and Risk being egomaniac manipulative control freaks who don't want to let anyone host anything, to Jolly and Windflower being good at melee. This is literally all nonsense and honestly should never have been posted. You don't know the people you're talking about and you don't know the community you're talking about, as already stated by yourself.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 13, 2020, 12:53:21 am
the biggest problem i think we're not talking about enough is that he thinks jolly and windflower are good at melee
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 13, 2020, 12:58:20 am
the biggest problem i think we're not talking about enough is that he thinks jolly and windflower are good at melee
ya idk I was good at melee maybe a few years ago but i havent even launched warband in months!!
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: BabyJesus on September 13, 2020, 01:13:34 am
the biggest problem i think we're not talking about enough is that he thinks jolly and windflower are good at melee
ya idk I was good at melee maybe a few years ago but i havent even launched warband in months!!
there was a time when you were good at melee???????
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 13, 2020, 01:47:24 am
the biggest problem i think we're not talking about enough is that he thinks jolly and windflower are good at melee
ya idk I was good at melee maybe a few years ago but i havent even launched warband in months!!
there was a time when you were good at melee???????
idk good enough to beat scrubs like u back in the day  ;)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Pinoy12 on September 13, 2020, 01:59:10 am
the biggest problem i think we're not talking about enough is that he thinks jolly and windflower are good at melee
ya idk I was good at melee maybe a few years ago but i havent even launched warband in months!!
there was a time when you were good at melee???????
idk good enough to beat scrubs like u back in the day  ;)
haha me and Windflower beat Shine and Fireboy in a 2v2 tournament back in the day. Put some hespect on his name.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 13, 2020, 02:42:37 am
I think what scottish was (probably) trying to say is that Risk is making it as hard as possible for new people to host leagues/tourneys, I remember when I posted my first thread asking what format the first thing that came to his mind was

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run

Jolly or Windflower would be good imo

There are obviously more people who are capable of doing a good job tho"

Spoiler
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Imo Risk should've given me advice or tips on running a league, I gotta thank windflower and aurum for being there to answer my very stupid questions. I don't see what's wrong with having new people try something out that they might like.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Risk_ on September 13, 2020, 02:56:33 am
I think what scottish was (probably) trying to say is that Risk is making it as hard as possible for new people to host leagues/tourneys, I remember when I posted my first thread asking what format the first thing that came to his mind was

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run

Jolly or Windflower would be good imo

There are obviously more people who are capable of doing a good job tho"

Imo Risk should've given me advice or tips on running a league, I gotta thank windflower and aurum for being there to answer my very stupid questions. I don't see what's wrong with having new people try something out that they might like.

this is lol.

Nothing wrong with having people who know what they are doing and have experience. Yes, I don't want the league to be shit and poorly run. And literally no one else does either. Your 3v3s tournaments were some of the worst tournaments I had participated in, in a long time. They started late, ended late and one was completely redone after the first round of the bracket had been played. I have never seen that before. In reality, didn't matter who hosted, I just don't want it to be poorly managed and when you said you were... all I remember is the 3v3 tournaments. That was your experience and it wasn't good.
Nonetheless, I still signed up for them and the league though because I like to compete and so did pretty much everyone else. Pretty sure Jolly and Waste were helping you anyway so it worked and the league was actually doing good until you literally exposed yourself for cheating. Someone else deserves to run it and that's why it should be one of the mods you had (Jolly or Waste). And the community obviously thinks this to by looking at the poll.

nice try pushing this false narrative tho
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 13, 2020, 03:00:39 am
Now I understand the US school shooting. 90% of murican posts are made by ppl with mental illness

J Campbell is Scottish but good try

hey buddy when can we expect another upload miss u
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 13, 2020, 03:03:43 am
I think what scottish was (probably) trying to say is that Risk is making it as hard as possible for new people to host leagues/tourneys, I remember when I posted my first thread asking what format the first thing that came to his mind was

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run

Jolly or Windflower would be good imo

There are obviously more people who are capable of doing a good job tho"

Imo Risk should've given me advice or tips on running a league, I gotta thank windflower and aurum for being there to answer my very stupid questions. I don't see what's wrong with having new people try something out that they might like.

this is lol.

Nothing wrong with having people who know what they are doing and have experience. Yes, I don't want the league to be shit and poorly run. And literally no one else does either. Your 3v3s tournaments were some of the worst tournaments I had participated in, in a long time. They started late, ended late and one was completely redone after the first round of the bracket had been played. I have never seen that before. In reality, didn't matter who hosted, I just don't want it to be poorly managed and when you said you were... all I remember is the 3v3 tournaments. That was your experience and it wasn't good.
Nonetheless, I still signed up for them and the league though because I like to compete and so did pretty much everyone else. Pretty sure Jolly and Waste were helping you anyway so it worked and the league was actually doing good until you literally exposed yourself for cheating. Someone else deserves to run it and that's why it should be one of the mods you had (Jolly or Waste). And the community obviously thinks this to by looking at the poll.

nice try pushing this false narrative tho


They started and ended late because I didn't anticipate as many teams to sign up because I thought a lot of people were done with the game, It was legit my first tournament as well I already knew beforehand and SAID beforehand bear with me this is a learning process for me. Who runs a perfectly smooth tournament the first time? I don't know anyone whose done that but prove me wrong.


VetroG asked me to run his tournament I think 1 hour before it started and he hadn't even made the bracket, so I made the bracket 20 minutes before the tournament then out of the blue 3 or so teams just sign up During the tournament. I had never expected this to happen and definitely handled it the wrong way, I should have either told those teams Sorry you signed up to late, or restarting the tournament as only 3 matches had been played. Unfortunately I hesitated and handled it poorly.

League was doing fine until hawkince decided to go through all my videos but I can't change the past so might as well learn from it and move on.

actually I would say it wasn't a bad first tournament only problem with it was that it took awhile which wasn't my fault a lot more teams signed up then I had anticipated.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Maple™ on September 13, 2020, 03:30:04 am
maple 7 - 0 (prime) risk 09/11/2020
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Pickle on September 13, 2020, 03:36:08 am
pickle 7 - 0 (prime) maple 09/11/2013
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Risk_ on September 13, 2020, 03:36:23 am
pickle 7 - 0 (prime) maple 09/11/2010
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 13, 2020, 03:58:23 am
I think what scottish was (probably) trying to say is that Risk is making it as hard as possible for new people to host leagues/tourneys, I remember when I posted my first thread asking what format the first thing that came to his mind was

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run

Jolly or Windflower would be good imo

There are obviously more people who are capable of doing a good job tho"

Imo Risk should've given me advice or tips on running a league, I gotta thank windflower and aurum for being there to answer my very stupid questions. I don't see what's wrong with having new people try something out that they might like.

this is lol.

Nothing wrong with having people who know what they are doing and have experience. Yes, I don't want the league to be shit and poorly run. And literally no one else does either. Your 3v3s tournaments were some of the worst tournaments I had participated in, in a long time. They started late, ended late and one was completely redone after the first round of the bracket had been played. I have never seen that before. In reality, didn't matter who hosted, I just don't want it to be poorly managed and when you said you were... all I remember is the 3v3 tournaments. That was your experience and it wasn't good.
Nonetheless, I still signed up for them and the league though because I like to compete and so did pretty much everyone else. Pretty sure Jolly and Waste were helping you anyway so it worked and the league was actually doing good until you literally exposed yourself for cheating. Someone else deserves to run it and that's why it should be one of the mods you had (Jolly or Waste). And the community obviously thinks this to by looking at the poll.

nice try pushing this false narrative tho


They started and ended late because I didn't anticipate as many teams to sign up because I thought a lot of people were done with the game, It was legit my first tournament as well I already knew beforehand and SAID beforehand bear with me this is a learning process for me. Who runs a perfectly smooth tournament the first time? I don't know anyone whose done that but prove me wrong.


VetroG asked me to run his tournament I think 1 hour before it started and he hadn't even made the bracket, so I made the bracket 20 minutes before the tournament then out of the blue 3 or so teams just sign up During the tournament. I had never expected this to happen and definitely handled it the wrong way, I should have either told those teams Sorry you signed up to late, or restarting the tournament as only 3 matches had been played. Unfortunately I hesitated and handled it poorly.

League was doing fine until hawkince decided to go through all my videos but I can't change the past so might as well learn from it and move on.

actually I would say it wasn't a bad first tournament only problem with it was that it took awhile which wasn't my fault a lot more teams signed up then I had anticipated.

Real talk I didn't go through your videos, yoloswag had showed me one of your videos when he accused you of cheating and I was rewatching it, but regardless your a dumb cheater
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 13, 2020, 04:20:34 am
pickle 7 - 0 (prime) maple 09/11/2010
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ShintoSkookum on September 13, 2020, 04:44:06 am
the community has gone downhill since Mayhem posted his retirement thread
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Yoshiee on September 13, 2020, 05:35:11 am
scottish ur fucking retarded lol its not jolly or risk control freaks the tournaments its no1 else wants to do it except for kristine in this case wich was hacking so hell no to that  also 1v1 the 12e
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Rutger Müller on September 13, 2020, 05:52:02 am
scottish ur fucking retarded lol its not jolly or risk control freaks the tournaments its no1 else wants to do it except for kristine in this case wich was hacking so hell no to that  also 1v1 the 12e
1v1s are for actual regiments tho, not groupfighting teams
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Jazzcommander on September 13, 2020, 06:01:55 am
scottish ur fucking retarded lol its not jolly or risk control freaks the tournaments its no1 else wants to do it except for kristine in this case wich was hacking so hell no to that  also 1v1 the 12e
Technically we (IX) were suppose to 1v1 you tonight but Scottish never showed, big oof amirite
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 13, 2020, 06:22:44 am
scottish ur fucking retarded lol its not jolly or risk control freaks the tournaments its no1 else wants to do it except for kristine in this case wich was hacking so hell no to that  also 1v1 the 12e
Technically we (IX) were suppose to 1v1 you tonight but Scottish never showed, big oof amirite

this
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: polar726 on September 13, 2020, 06:34:14 am
I sent scottish a friend invite on steam!
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: TheBaker on September 13, 2020, 09:05:05 am
I love reading these in the morning with a cup of coffee. Really makes you feel alive and doesn't make you question your life choices at all
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Eamon on September 13, 2020, 11:01:23 am
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 13, 2020, 11:33:12 am
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.
:)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Phil The Thril on September 13, 2020, 11:48:53 am
scottish ur fucking retarded lol its not jolly or risk control freaks the tournaments its no1 else wants to do it except for kristine in this case wich was hacking so hell no to that  also 1v1 the 12e
1v1s are for actual regiments tho, not groupfighting teams
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Rikkert on September 13, 2020, 01:39:08 pm
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Eamon on September 13, 2020, 01:46:42 pm
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host

Rikkert has said what we were all thinking, Gi is a bully. Justice for the victims. Justice for Von Bergen
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Gi on September 13, 2020, 01:50:13 pm
I think you may be over exaggerating it a little rikkert, I was very much in favour of the lion tournament
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Rikkert on September 13, 2020, 01:59:01 pm
Sorry yes, stop cyberbully pls
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Golden. on September 13, 2020, 02:02:02 pm
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host


Are you trying to tell me Lion Tournament wasn’t good?  ???  ???
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 13, 2020, 04:12:57 pm
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Ambiguous on September 13, 2020, 04:17:10 pm
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host


Are you trying to tell me Lion Tournament wasn’t good?  ???  ???
The infamous water map in a groupfighting tournament.
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 13, 2020, 06:36:31 pm
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Eamon on September 13, 2020, 07:17:58 pm
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that

Also Vetro has done this I think
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 13, 2020, 08:16:46 pm
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that

Also Vetro has done this I think
Probably why he doesn’t host big leagues
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 13, 2020, 08:56:49 pm
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.

He got help from a bunch of people in the community. The league was going well, too. MATT got a lot of shit and had a huge witch hunt happen to try and prove he was a hacker and get him banned from everything. Vetro actually was bullied for like 2 years even without the hacking shit. That made it worse for a bit too. Kristine has gotten off easy compared to them both tbh. Only made it worse for himself by trolling the forums right after. If he didn’t do that I honestly think it would have blown over pretty quick. Kristine is a good kid, but he got the same punishment any cheater would’ve gotten. Things will go back to normal for him in time like it did for MATT and Vetro.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Runepkyz on September 13, 2020, 09:08:56 pm
I dont think kristines tourneys were bad imo from the two ive seen him host and this draft league was going well. But cheating is high treason in NW.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Sgt.Winters on September 13, 2020, 09:10:59 pm
Vetro is just a lovable idiot
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Piktonss on September 13, 2020, 10:13:43 pm
Vetro is just a lovable idiot
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Pinoy12 on September 13, 2020, 10:21:36 pm
Vetro is just a lovable idiot
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 13, 2020, 10:29:40 pm
thanks rikkert  8)

NA has always been harsh on cheaters, which is one of the things i like about na, even though the known cheaters get eventually back to play in tournaments and leagues, na is still much more consistent in punishing and effectivelly bullying cheaters, which is absolutely fine and i agree with it

about the unexperienced host issue, i'd let kristine host, even if he's unexperienced, literally hit or miss who knows, it can still turn out great  :) and if it doesn't well then you have the final pull to bully him the fuck out of hosting anything ever again XD (there are other reasons as to why Jolly took over which i understand, just my 2 cents on that specific topic)
Think ur missing the fact that Kristine used hacks on top of that

im not, look at the brackets again, but it could be me communicating it poorly
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Risk_ on September 13, 2020, 11:16:09 pm
Coming from eu and knowing literally nothing about NA. Here, Gi has talked (or bullied if you're sensitive) multiple people out of hosting regimental leagues, and rightfully so. These leagues need an experienced host that is committed to finishing it. Which is why people that have been doing this shit for years don't want inexperienced people wasting everyone's time. That's not saying that new people can never host successful leagues. But you have to make a name for yourself first, to show that you're capable. You have to earn people's respect and trust in you as a good host. There's tiers or steps to this shit, and big leagues like regimental leagues or nations leagues are pretty much at the top of the ladder. They take the longest time, involve the highest amount of players and are held to the highest standards. I don't understand why you're surprised that people want an experienced host. You should start with hosting normal tournaments successfully for a consistent period, before you even think about getting into regimental leagues. Then progress further by helping a more experienced and trusted host hosting their league. Then maybe co-host a league. Then try your hand at a smaller gf team league. If you do all those things successfully then you will earn people's respect as a host. Look at RGL S7 or NWWC 2020 on the EU side. It had some well known hosts, who were supported by some lesser known hosts. Those two leagues were some of the best tournaments we've had in years. And now those people that were supporting those hosts are trying their hand at hosting their own independent tournaments and leagues and noone is complaining, because those people have earned the trust of the community.

Tldr: work your way up and earn people's trust in you as a host

couldn't agree more
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 14, 2020, 02:48:37 am
Vetro is just a lovable idiot
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 14, 2020, 04:25:23 am
Vetro is just a lovable idiot
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 14, 2020, 07:39:09 am
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.

Bro go on his steam profile lmao
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 14, 2020, 07:44:22 am
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.

Bro go on his steam profile lmao
What's funny about my steam profile :(
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Phil The Thril on September 14, 2020, 01:10:30 pm
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice

Also this statement, I saw it at the time and I am not involved in NA actively for the past 2 years, but this was some serious indirect shade, regardless of Kristines history in hosting tornaments, if I had to give an honest opinion of Kristine, he struck me as a good kid if a bit impressionable but who isn't at this age range, and if he used cheats so be it its a game we all do stupid shit.

"It would great if we had someone credible to host this though or who has hosted one before, because the recent tournaments were such a mess. I just don't want it to be shit or poorly run"

If i saw this coming from somebody I assumed was an experienced host of events and leagues, I would be extremely disheartened and disappointed. The NA community is so small that on things like these you should try come together and assist Kristine.

If i was asked to apply the same to bluenose I have never had a seriois conversation with him and have only ever seen the constant stream of regiments etc so not sure if I would be as tolerant.

Bro go on his steam profile lmao
What's funny about my steam profile :(
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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 14, 2020, 03:02:07 pm
Goomba is Pepe detective
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 14, 2020, 03:45:03 pm
In the past 5 months ive got the pleasure of training and working with Kristine, helping to build up his melee and having fun playing with him in the 55th.

First let me be clear, I am dissapointed in Kristine as when he told me that he did not autoblock I took his word for it as I would anyone I would call a friend. That is something that he should fully and totally embrace and step down from running the league as he is doing now.

However, with anything their is a middle road and 2 sides to a story. From my time of spending with Kristine and getting to know him these past 5 months he is a warm funny slightly toxic meme of a person who is very genuine is his love for the game and for his friends.

If Kristine has begged for forgiveness in front of this community, publicly apologizes, owns up for his mistakes, steps down from running the league, and vows never to do it again. I would suggest mercy be our response as a community .

Why? Because Kristine represents a lot of what we have been sorely missing. New players coming into the community and while inexperience have the drive and grit to contribute to this game we have all played for years.

I think wholeheartedly letting new people take over trying to run leagues, tournaments, and competitive events is something we should all encourage.

But with anything that you do for the first time you wont be perfect and will fail. I know as I was a awful meleer, and NW line leader for many years and still have much to learn. However if I never had the chance to go from inexperienced to getting thrown into the fire I would have never grown.

What NW would benefit from I suggest would be letting more people take on leadership roles in the community and not rejected them on a lack of experience?
Because if we invest in new and upcoming players the returns are wonderful, a more active, passionate, and dedicated base of competitive players constantly increasing the size, activity and organization of our community.

Aka investing in new people means.
Bigger events
More events
Better events
New faces

Costs:
Time it takes for new people to grow takes about 1 year and a couple poorly run tournaments.
People would currently tend to run the majority of things are willing to take on a mentor role developing their padawans  8)

All in all Kristine ur a dummy, I forgive you 100%, take a break from the game for a while and ATONE for your trespasses.
For everyone else, if you havent messed up or made a mistake as a human being please feel free to 7-0 me and bully kristine.

Peace  ;)

Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 14, 2020, 04:59:29 pm
thank you padre
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 14, 2020, 05:01:21 pm
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice
...Why? Tf is your problem
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 14, 2020, 05:04:37 pm
thank you padre
neni problemka kamo jsi moje bobre  8) 8) 8) ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 14, 2020, 05:18:53 pm
thank you padre
neni problemka kamo jsi moje bobre  8) 8) 8) ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D

XD
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Piktonss on September 14, 2020, 05:41:05 pm
Very Cool Anthony
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 14, 2020, 06:11:55 pm
Athony I agree with you, new people should start running things. I've support them most recently being hand and the 2v2 league.

My issue with Kristine is that he went from admitting to what he did infront of me, hawkince, risk and wastee. Then going on the thread denying that he admitted to it, went on to troll, created excuses of already planning on leaving when in fact he had said he'd run another league right after this one had finished, and refused to talk to me when I had asked not to continue this on fse but in ts and he said "more fun on fse lol, idc"

If he has stuck with it and didn't start trolling he'd probably be still "running" the league.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 14, 2020, 06:20:01 pm
Athony I agree with you, new people should start running things. I've support them most recently being hand and the 2v2 league.

My issue with Kristine is that he went from admitting to what he did infront of me, hawkince, risk and wastee. Then going on the thread denying that he admitted to it, went on to troll, created excuses of already planning on leaving when in fact he had said he'd run another league right after this one had finished, and refused to talk to me when I had asked not to continue this on fse but in ts and he said "more fun on fse lol, idc"

If he has stuck with it and didn't start trolling he'd probably be still "running" the league.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Aurum on September 14, 2020, 06:52:12 pm
not really adding anything new but want to post

People don't like to have their time wasted, especially in a community that has tournaments has infrequently as NA does. Kristine was seemingly running a pretty smooth league (from what I could tell) but I don't think that everybody had 100% of their full trust in Kristine. Based on what Jolly said, it seems like Kristine justified that hesitation from people. I think that Kristine should get a second chance, but later down the road and to just let Jolly (a reputable tournament host) finish out what was started.

Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Eamon on September 14, 2020, 07:06:14 pm
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice
...Why? Tf is your problem

You could hazard a guess
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 14, 2020, 07:24:29 pm
MATT gets all the praise despite the talk of him using hacks at one point

12 year old Kristine gets bullied

Smh double standards

Bear in mind I hate all LG members before I meet then and Kristine is surprisingly nice
...Why? Tf is your problem
You could hazard a guess
I could see you disliking the few specific members that attacked you personally but hating the entirety of the regiment when you don't any of them on a personal level is questionable
Kristine is alike a lot of the other members in the LG at least from my experience.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 14, 2020, 07:42:40 pm
Typical EU racism smh
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Pinoy12 on September 14, 2020, 07:56:13 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ij3tv30Ed8
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Sgt.Winters on September 14, 2020, 08:12:52 pm
I would say that this resembles more of a case of hyper-tribalism and toxic masculinity rather than justifiable vengeance.

In fact, if I were to radiate even a shred of self-awareness, this feels more like our bi-monthly cathartic rage in which we focus on a particularly benign topic and inflate it to the point of absurdity. It's literally Hollywood level drama. If Kristine consented to Jolly taking over, then nothing else really needs to be said. Though apparently even the exact wording can't be agreed on, so I suppose the mystery will continue.

The only thing I will disagree with is the crucifixion of Kristine, as if he has really committed the worst crime imaginable. It feels more like projection rather than justice. We have all done horrible things, no use in denying that, but when the opportunity comes to take the absolute piss out of someone, how many of us can say that we don't openly welcome it? Next month, it will be someone else who gets his turn on the kangaroo court. How exciting!

Furthermore, I have absolutely no clue how Scottish postulates from the recent events that there is some sort of mass centralization of power going on amongst a select-few individuals in order to control who does what. I mean, the title of this post in of itself just reeks of self-importance. "You don't own me", excuse my vernacular for a moment, but who the fuck said anything about you becoming property, subjected at a whim to the ghastly endeavors of Risk and Jolly?

I know you people want to see the world as some sort of exciting adventure in which you are the main character that will help expose all the lies and deceit that plague society, but the truth is simply much more dull.

All in all, instead of a legitimate concern over the ethical dilemmas presented with the use of autoblock and league takeovers, this comes off as more of a narcissistic plea for martyrdom that doesn't even need to happen. Slacktivism in NW has finally arrived, and it couldn't be any less bleat.

In short, please get off the cross.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Wursti on September 14, 2020, 08:13:56 pm
why is NA so giga cringe
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 14, 2020, 08:42:16 pm
Athony I agree with you, new people should start running things. I've support them most recently being hand and the 2v2 league.

My issue with Kristine is that he went from admitting to what he did infront of me, hawkince, risk and wastee. Then going on the thread denying that he admitted to it, went on to troll, created excuses of already planning on leaving when in fact he had said he'd run another league right after this one had finished, and refused to talk to me when I had asked not to continue this on fse but in ts and he said "more fun on fse lol, idc"

If he has stuck with it and didn't start trolling he'd probably be still "running" the league.
Uhhhh are you talking about me admitting to using autoblock? Cause I'm pretty sure I admitted on fse during this whole thing...
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 14, 2020, 09:31:09 pm
Athony I agree with you, new people should start running things. I've support them most recently being hand and the 2v2 league.

My issue with Kristine is that he went from admitting to what he did infront of me, hawkince, risk and wastee. Then going on the thread denying that he admitted to it, went on to troll, created excuses of already planning on leaving when in fact he had said he'd run another league right after this one had finished, and refused to talk to me when I had asked not to continue this on fse but in ts and he said "more fun on fse lol, idc"

If he has stuck with it and didn't start trolling he'd probably be still "running" the league.
Uhhhh are you talking about me admitting to using autoblock? Cause I'm pretty sure I admitted on fse during this whole thing...

I mean you did deny ever cheating when I first confronted you before you knew that we knew. Anyways the community really hasn't ever come down hard on cheaters and with a past like yours its finally time we actually did something. Besides in a game with no anti cheat it's really just a honor system and we now know that we can't trust you.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 14, 2020, 09:54:35 pm
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

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Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 14, 2020, 10:00:13 pm
Hawkince’s ft7 loss has now been ruled a No Contest. As officiator of all ft7’s on BBG Public Duel NA, the same shall be done for any Kristine ft7 win up until today.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 14, 2020, 10:51:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-D9k1W7rRQ&feature=youtu.be



The investigator always catches them   8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsnjvawFIMI
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 14, 2020, 10:57:23 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-D9k1W7rRQ&feature=youtu.be



The investigator always catches them   8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsnjvawFIMI

LOL THIS DUDES BEEN CHEATING FOR 4 YEARS
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 14, 2020, 10:58:39 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-D9k1W7rRQ&feature=youtu.be



The investigator always catches them   8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsnjvawFIMI

LOL THIS DUDES BEEN CHEATING FOR 4 YEARS


I mean ever since what? The 71st?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Glenn on September 14, 2020, 11:00:26 pm
https://youtu.be/2SBy6vst_OU

Found it
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 14, 2020, 11:01:10 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBy6vst_OU

See it for yourself, this dude has always been a cheater and people are trying to forgive him, like the guy cheats in Squad by pulling up a 2nd version of the game to see where the enemies are, it's clearly not an isolated incident he's just not a talented enough gamer to be good without having an unfair advantage.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 14, 2020, 11:09:21 pm
you also clearly cheat in csgo
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 14, 2020, 11:10:17 pm
you also clearly cheat in csgo

yea its hard to carry the gold nova with 2500 hours so i gotta do what i gotta do
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 14, 2020, 11:10:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBy6vst_OU

See it for yourself, this dude has always been a cheater and people are trying to forgive him, like the guy cheats in Squad by pulling up a 2nd version of the game to see where the enemies are, it's clearly not an isolated incident he's just not a talented enough gamer to be good without having an unfair advantage.

They tried to hide it.  But like his comment is still there.  I always....always catch my man  8)

I got some more things if you want to talk about it.  Meet me in the parking garage at 10pm est.  Ill give you everything. 
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Glenn on September 14, 2020, 11:15:33 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/d9db125a8fc144bc0aa65ae6d0342062.png)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 14, 2020, 11:44:16 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/d9db125a8fc144bc0aa65ae6d0342062.png)

Skinny is a real one
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 14, 2020, 11:45:01 pm
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

-snip-

(https://espnpressroom.com/us/files/2017/10/Wojnarowski_ESPN_4_600dpi-1-310x310.jpg)
Vetro I think I remember you using autoblock and autochamber on bbg pub duel and actually straight up duelled some people and I think you even asked someone to ft7. Also I already proved that I didn't use any malicious software during the 5v5 league so I don't know how vetro's word is enough evidence of me cheating without any actual evidence lol, all the evidence you need is on my youtube channel where I recorded my POV and even included a hand cam :) nice try but next time try and bring some valid evidence that actually helps you with your allegations, also with the down block to up attack I actually practiced a lot to do that consistently it's pretty tough to do until you get the right mouse movement and timing.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBJlySE2mw4
[close]

Oh and about me commenting that I actually remember that I was 12 and I couldn't block for the life of me.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 14, 2020, 11:53:29 pm
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

"Kristine yo ass been hackin' since Aurum's 5v5 Gold League LMAO! Your own team captain snitched on yo ass to Aurum and he even messaged me about it to look at your game play and help them out. You have so many game/VAC bans on record it isn't even funny. You've admitted to 93rd that you use two monitors to cheat on Arma and Squad LOL! You were in a Ts channel with all them goofies and even told them you give up the league and then later on you said you didn't do that LMFAO. Straight cap bro, we ft7'd two days before you got exposed and the day before that I 7-4'd you twice and the next day you beat me 7-6 twice and then I finally caught up to you but I could tell you were hackin' and I called you out on it, but of course yo hackin' ass denied it all and said "I'd never cheat in this game" two days later BAM exposed. You even showed me on Public Duel NA that you have the original autoblock that blocks down when you're feinting. You try playing it off on FSE because you know yo hackin havin ass got caught LMAO with that attitude "I don't care it's funny" you just got exposed bitch ass kid lmfao. Your league is gone, credit is gone, and the entire NA community is using use like a toilet in a bar on a Friday night.

(https://espnpressroom.com/us/files/2017/10/Wojnarowski_ESPN_4_600dpi-1-310x310.jpg)
Vetro I think I remember you using autoblock and autochamber on bbg pub duel and actually straight up duelled some people and I think you even asked someone to ft7. Also I already proved that I didn't use any malicious software during the 5v5 league so I don't know how vetro's word is enough evidence of me cheating without any actual evidence lol, all the evidence you need is on my youtube channel where I recorded my POV and even included a hand cam :) nice try but next time try and bring some valid evidence that actually helps you with your allegations, also with the down block to up attack I actually practiced a lot to do that consistently it's pretty tough to do until you get the right mouse movement and timing.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBJlySE2mw4
[close]

Oh and about me commenting that I actually remember that I was 12 and I couldn't block for the life of me.

Question: Did you know it was wrong at the time to have cheats/hacks? Because you asked is this bannable so that would indicate that you knew what you were doing was a bad thing to do.  I mean I've forgiven you kid.  Nobody in this community is perfect.  Like you just aren't.  Like Anthony said, take a break and come back. 
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 14, 2020, 11:55:50 pm
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

"Kristine yo ass been hackin' since Aurum's 5v5 Gold League LMAO! Your own team captain snitched on yo ass to Aurum and he even messaged me about it to look at your game play and help them out. You have so many game/VAC bans on record it isn't even funny. You've admitted to 93rd that you use two monitors to cheat on Arma and Squad LOL! You were in a Ts channel with all them goofies and even told them you give up the league and then later on you said you didn't do that LMFAO. Straight cap bro, we ft7'd two days before you got exposed and the day before that I 7-4'd you twice and the next day you beat me 7-6 twice and then I finally caught up to you but I could tell you were hackin' and I called you out on it, but of course yo hackin' ass denied it all and said "I'd never cheat in this game" two days later BAM exposed. You even showed me on Public Duel NA that you have the original autoblock that blocks down when you're feinting. You try playing it off on FSE because you know yo hackin havin ass got caught LMAO with that attitude "I don't care it's funny" you just got exposed bitch ass kid lmfao. Your league is gone, credit is gone, and the entire NA community is using use like a toilet in a bar on a Friday night.

(https://espnpressroom.com/us/files/2017/10/Wojnarowski_ESPN_4_600dpi-1-310x310.jpg)
Vetro I think I remember you using autoblock and autochamber on bbg pub duel and actually straight up duelled some people and I think you even asked someone to ft7. Also I already proved that I didn't use any malicious software during the 5v5 league so I don't know how vetro's word is enough evidence of me cheating without any actual evidence lol, all the evidence you need is on my youtube channel where I recorded my POV and even included a hand cam :) nice try but next time try and bring some valid evidence that actually helps you with your allegations, also with the down block to up attack I actually practiced a lot to do that consistently it's pretty tough to do until you get the right mouse movement and timing.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBJlySE2mw4
[close]

Oh and about me commenting that I actually remember that I was 12 and I couldn't block for the life of me.

Question: Did you know it was wrong at the time to have cheats/hacks? Because you asked is this bannable so that would indicate that you knew what you were doing was a bad thing to do.  I mean I've forgiven you kid.  Nobody in this community is perfect.  Like you just aren't.  Like Anthony said, take a break and come back.
I thought NW had an anti cheat at the time.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 15, 2020, 12:16:31 am
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

-snip-

(https://espnpressroom.com/us/files/2017/10/Wojnarowski_ESPN_4_600dpi-1-310x310.jpg)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on September 15, 2020, 12:17:04 am
Did anyone ask Ja Rule what he thinks about this?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 15, 2020, 12:17:52 am
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

-snip-

(https://espnpressroom.com/us/files/2017/10/Wojnarowski_ESPN_4_600dpi-1-310x310.jpg)

Now thats one cool cat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSaxMyerKc
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Yoshiee on September 15, 2020, 12:28:33 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V9HkdBgq10 fuck cheaters honestly
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 15, 2020, 12:30:37 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V9HkdBgq10 fuck cheaters honestly

i wouldnt be jamming

youre next
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Yoshiee on September 15, 2020, 12:34:51 am
aha time to record every match KEKW
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Phil The Thril on September 15, 2020, 12:37:46 am
I would say that this resembles more of a case of hyper-tribalism and toxic masculinity rather than justifiable vengeance.

In fact, if I were to radiate even a shred of self-awareness, this feels more like our bi-monthly cathartic rage in which we focus on a particularly benign topic and inflate it to the point of absurdity. It's literally Hollywood level drama. If Kristine consented to Jolly taking over, then nothing else really needs to be said. Though apparently even the exact wording can't be agreed on, so I suppose the mystery will continue.

The only thing I will disagree with is the crucifixion of Kristine, as if he has really committed the worst crime imaginable. It feels more like projection rather than justice. We have all done horrible things, no use in denying that, but when the opportunity comes to take the absolute piss out of someone, how many of us can say that we don't openly welcome it? Next month, it will be someone else who gets his turn on the kangaroo court. How exciting!

Furthermore, I have absolutely no clue how Scottish postulates from the recent events that there is some sort of mass centralization of power going on amongst a select-few individuals in order to control who does what. I mean, the title of this post in of itself just reeks of self-importance. "You don't own me", excuse my vernacular for a moment, but who the fuck said anything about you becoming property, subjected at a whim to the ghastly endeavors of Risk and Jolly?

I know you people want to see the world as some sort of exciting adventure in which you are the main character that will help expose all the lies and deceit that plague society, but the truth is simply much more dull.

All in all, instead of a legitimate concern over the ethical dilemmas presented with the use of autoblock and league takeovers, this comes off as more of a narcissistic plea for martyrdom that doesn't even need to happen. Slacktivism in NW has finally arrived, and it couldn't be any less bleat.

In short, please get off the cross.
/thread
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 15, 2020, 12:42:30 am
Did anyone ask Ja Rule what he thinks about this?
Yes and Flo Rida they are the true decision makers
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 15, 2020, 12:42:47 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V9HkdBgq10 fuck cheaters honestly

i wouldnt be jamming

youre next

It all started when I sent him that autochamber.exe file
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 15, 2020, 12:47:00 am
I would say that this resembles more of a case of hyper-tribalism and toxic masculinity rather than justifiable vengeance.

In fact, if I were to radiate even a shred of self-awareness, this feels more like our bi-monthly cathartic rage in which we focus on a particularly benign topic and inflate it to the point of absurdity. It's literally Hollywood level drama. If Kristine consented to Jolly taking over, then nothing else really needs to be said. Though apparently even the exact wording can't be agreed on, so I suppose the mystery will continue.

The only thing I will disagree with is the crucifixion of Kristine, as if he has really committed the worst crime imaginable. It feels more like projection rather than justice. We have all done horrible things, no use in denying that, but when the opportunity comes to take the absolute piss out of someone, how many of us can say that we don't openly welcome it? Next month, it will be someone else who gets his turn on the kangaroo court. How exciting!

Furthermore, I have absolutely no clue how Scottish postulates from the recent events that there is some sort of mass centralization of power going on amongst a select-few individuals in order to control who does what. I mean, the title of this post in of itself just reeks of self-importance. "You don't own me", excuse my vernacular for a moment, but who the fuck said anything about you becoming property, subjected at a whim to the ghastly endeavors of Risk and Jolly?

I know you people want to see the world as some sort of exciting adventure in which you are the main character that will help expose all the lies and deceit that plague society, but the truth is simply much more dull.

All in all, instead of a legitimate concern over the ethical dilemmas presented with the use of autoblock and league takeovers, this comes off as more of a narcissistic plea for martyrdom that doesn't even need to happen. Slacktivism in NW has finally arrived, and it couldn't be any less bleat.

In short, please get off the cross.
/thread

lol no, not /thread almost every game out there has an anti cheat and competitively being caught cheating results in a perma ban pretty much always and the fact that we finally did something about it should be a good thing, especially since stuff like this has been tried in the past only without overwhelming evidence, plus the lack of any defense at all. The history of the person in question is in it of itself very questionable and he dug himself a bigger hole by lying about cheating first then the league.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Phil The Thril on September 15, 2020, 12:56:57 am
I would say that this resembles more of a case of hyper-tribalism and toxic masculinity rather than justifiable vengeance.

In fact, if I were to radiate even a shred of self-awareness, this feels more like our bi-monthly cathartic rage in which we focus on a particularly benign topic and inflate it to the point of absurdity. It's literally Hollywood level drama. If Kristine consented to Jolly taking over, then nothing else really needs to be said. Though apparently even the exact wording can't be agreed on, so I suppose the mystery will continue.

The only thing I will disagree with is the crucifixion of Kristine, as if he has really committed the worst crime imaginable. It feels more like projection rather than justice. We have all done horrible things, no use in denying that, but when the opportunity comes to take the absolute piss out of someone, how many of us can say that we don't openly welcome it? Next month, it will be someone else who gets his turn on the kangaroo court. How exciting!

Furthermore, I have absolutely no clue how Scottish postulates from the recent events that there is some sort of mass centralization of power going on amongst a select-few individuals in order to control who does what. I mean, the title of this post in of itself just reeks of self-importance. "You don't own me", excuse my vernacular for a moment, but who the fuck said anything about you becoming property, subjected at a whim to the ghastly endeavors of Risk and Jolly?

I know you people want to see the world as some sort of exciting adventure in which you are the main character that will help expose all the lies and deceit that plague society, but the truth is simply much more dull.

All in all, instead of a legitimate concern over the ethical dilemmas presented with the use of autoblock and league takeovers, this comes off as more of a narcissistic plea for martyrdom that doesn't even need to happen. Slacktivism in NW has finally arrived, and it couldn't be any less bleat.

In short, please get off the cross.
/thread

lol no, not /thread almost every game out there has an anti cheat and competitively being caught cheating results in a perma ban pretty much always and the fact that we finally did something about it should be a good thing, especially since stuff like this has been tried in the past only without overwhelming evidence, plus the lack of any defense at all. The history of the person in question is in it of itself very questionable and he dug himself a bigger hole by lying about cheating first then the league.
Ok I admit /thread was a bit in jest but I think Winters brings up some valid points, plus his post was high effort so he gets some bonus points.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ShintoSkookum on September 15, 2020, 02:12:15 am
to be fair i hit f3 f2 a lot (kinda the same!) but thats to blee on russia :)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 15, 2020, 04:05:59 am
to be fair i hit f3 f2 a lot (kinda the same!) but thats to blee on russia :)
smh were we go again

Another member of team avatar about to get investigated.


Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 15, 2020, 04:17:50 am
VetroG has released a statement through his agency, gaygamers228 Sports, stating the following,

-snip-

(https://espnpressroom.com/us/files/2017/10/Wojnarowski_ESPN_4_600dpi-1-310x310.jpg)
Actually read what I have to say and look at my proof lol, I never autoblocked/cheated during the 5v5 league you can look through all my videos I was never autoblocking during that league.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-HF6QsipBA&t=1262s
[close]

This is just one of many videos of my POV during official matches.

Spoiler
https://youtu.be/hExL0d7CERU?t=828
[close]

Not a bad up down tbh.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: The Marksman on September 15, 2020, 04:50:47 am
It appears NA has once again found itself embroiled in intense controversy and debate, no doubt stemming from my absence from my former position as undisputed leader of the NA community. In its confusion and lack of clear concise leadership from yours truly, it was unequivocally only a matter of time. Therefore I can think of no better time to continue my ever unyielding tirade against, yes, you guessed it. Plain Sparkling Water. I have posted before previously on the abhorrent nature of this substance yet evermore I sense that no one has yet heeded my dire warning. I continue to see people purchase and consume this vile drink, all the while completely ignorant of the effects it has on their body, and indeed their very soul. This very week I saw the wicked artifact of torture and disgust in my very fridge. "By George!" I exclaimed "How has the very substance of which I dedicate my life to seeing to its total and utter eradication from this very earth found itself into my refrigerator bay!" I questioned my roomates on the matter but they will not take me seriously. "Oh Marksman" they jest "ever you entertain us with your continuous tirades and witty prognostications." It seems no one will imbibe my dire warnings and so I fear time is running out.

I remember the first time I ever indulged in one of the vile items in question that I now speak to you of with such rigor and passion. I was but a child and knew so little of the world. Yet little did I know that in such a brief moment of terror, I would learn so much of the pain and suffering the world has to offer. In a cooler there it sat, so innocent and innocuous yet at the time, so unknowingly evil. It deceives and beguiles and pulls one in with its colorful packaging and fanciful language. Strawberry flavored it says on the front, but that is nothing but an egregious lie as many of us have discovered I'm sure.   La Croix it read on the front. If you happen to not speak Italian it reads The Cross. A name that serves as an effective misnomer, and by positioning itself as something holy when it is in fact the pure representation of evil is even more ominous and terrifying. Through its lies and deceit it will come to rule the world while the unknowing masses are all but dumb to even its presence and thus will be willfully ruled and subjugated. Not with a triumphant final roar will civilization come to its knees but instead like a dying light of willful ignorance that will thus lead to inhumanity. All of it perpetrated by this one common foe. 

America of course was introduced to plain sparkling water from the usual purveyors of evil and destruction to the world. The Europeans. With faux saccharine smiles on their lips they offered us the substance in question and like fools we greedily held out our hands and accepted without even a second thought. The Europeans of course have a natural immunity to the substance that they have developed over thousands of years of selective breeding and eugenics of culling the particularly affected. And with this natural defense they have unleashed their final weapon on the world. Of course they dare not say anything. And they are bound together in their evil efforts by this sinister silence.

Upon doing my own research I have developed some of my own theories. I have reason to believe that almost all of the woes of the modern world can be traced back to Plain sparkling water. Think back to your own life. Likely for most of you the majority of struggle and pain in your life happened only after trying plain sparkling water for the first time. All evidence to the increasingly obvious. Think of the first time you ever tried a La Croix, or a pelligrino. As you opened the top and were greeted by a familiar pop, indicating the presence of a carbonated drink before you maybe you were already imagining the fruity or tangy sensation that might greet you. Instead you were greeted with the overwhelming, and incomprehensible taste of nothing but a false promise. Maybe you thought, "Well fuckity fuck fuck this is just fucking fizzy water." Little did you know it was so much more than that. Your soul was already irreparably damaged and you didn't know it. And thus like a curse it has followed you. Now imagine this catastrophe on a world scale affecting all people and decisions and it becomes increasingly clear. The Middle East, political instability, Covid-19, and indeed even Warband hackers all can be contributed to Plain sparkling water. I suppose you thought that this was a completely unrelated rant by someone who was either high or had way too much time on his hands but it is all related. Kristine here was merely a victim like the rest of us. We must come together or fall divided before its too late. Goodbye, and good luck.   



 
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: 13thFL_Terico_Mayhem on September 15, 2020, 05:08:34 am
In the past 5 months ive got the pleasure of training and working with Kristine, helping to build up his melee and having fun playing with him in the 55th.

First let me be clear, I am dissapointed in Kristine as when he told me that he did not autoblock I took his word for it as I would anyone I would call a friend. That is something that he should fully and totally embrace and step down from running the league as he is doing now.

However, with anything their is a middle road and 2 sides to a story. From my time of spending with Kristine and getting to know him these past 5 months he is a warm funny slightly toxic meme of a person who is very genuine is his love for the game and for his friends.

If Kristine has begged for forgiveness in front of this community, publicly apologizes, owns up for his mistakes, steps down from running the league, and vows never to do it again. I would suggest mercy be our response as a community .

Why? Because Kristine represents a lot of what we have been sorely missing. New players coming into the community and while inexperience have the drive and grit to contribute to this game we have all played for years.

I think wholeheartedly letting new people take over trying to run leagues, tournaments, and competitive events is something we should all encourage.

But with anything that you do for the first time you wont be perfect and will fail. I know as I was a awful meleer, and NW line leader for many years and still have much to learn. However if I never had the chance to go from inexperienced to getting thrown into the fire I would have never grown.

What NW would benefit from I suggest would be letting more people take on leadership roles in the community and not rejected them on a lack of experience?
Because if we invest in new and upcoming players the returns are wonderful, a more active, passionate, and dedicated base of competitive players constantly increasing the size, activity and organization of our community.

Aka investing in new people means.
Bigger events
More events
Better events
New faces

Costs:
Time it takes for new people to grow takes about 1 year and a couple poorly run tournaments.
People would currently tend to run the majority of things are willing to take on a mentor role developing their padawans  8)

All in all Kristine ur a dummy, I forgive you 100%, take a break from the game for a while and ATONE for your trespasses.
For everyone else, if you havent messed up or made a mistake as a human being please feel free to 7-0 me and bully kristine.

Peace  ;)
[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.

-snip-

P.s So Kristine got way to much time on his hands if he goes and does stupid stuff like this and we do not have issues atm so theres no legit reason for him to do this, and if you don't believe my logs get on discord with me ill stream the messenger for you with the comments.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: 13thFL_Terico_Mayhem on September 15, 2020, 05:14:54 am
Also its easy to expose a autoblocker Just hold a upstab against him and he will block it automatically just do it afew times to be sure.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Cwater on September 15, 2020, 05:15:59 am
Mayhem with yet another journalistic masterpiece of an exposé, truly the watchdog NW needs
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 15, 2020, 05:27:47 am
Mayhem with yet another journalistic masterpiece of an exposé, truly the watchdog NW needs
I was so sad when he retired  :'( but this post means he’s back :-*
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 15, 2020, 05:29:31 am
It’s like Mayhem never left. NW is balanced once more.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on September 15, 2020, 05:31:06 am
We're not about to gloss over Marksman's post smh
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 15, 2020, 05:34:18 am
We're not about to gloss over Marksman's post smh
Imagine drinking carbonated water? Disgusting
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 15, 2020, 05:41:11 am
In the past 5 months ive got the pleasure of training and working with Kristine, helping to build up his melee and having fun playing with him in the 55th.

First let me be clear, I am dissapointed in Kristine as when he told me that he did not autoblock I took his word for it as I would anyone I would call a friend. That is something that he should fully and totally embrace and step down from running the league as he is doing now.

However, with anything their is a middle road and 2 sides to a story. From my time of spending with Kristine and getting to know him these past 5 months he is a warm funny slightly toxic meme of a person who is very genuine is his love for the game and for his friends.

If Kristine has begged for forgiveness in front of this community, publicly apologizes, owns up for his mistakes, steps down from running the league, and vows never to do it again. I would suggest mercy be our response as a community .

Why? Because Kristine represents a lot of what we have been sorely missing. New players coming into the community and while inexperience have the drive and grit to contribute to this game we have all played for years.

I think wholeheartedly letting new people take over trying to run leagues, tournaments, and competitive events is something we should all encourage.

But with anything that you do for the first time you wont be perfect and will fail. I know as I was a awful meleer, and NW line leader for many years and still have much to learn. However if I never had the chance to go from inexperienced to getting thrown into the fire I would have never grown.

What NW would benefit from I suggest would be letting more people take on leadership roles in the community and not rejected them on a lack of experience?
Because if we invest in new and upcoming players the returns are wonderful, a more active, passionate, and dedicated base of competitive players constantly increasing the size, activity and organization of our community.

Aka investing in new people means.
Bigger events
More events
Better events
New faces

Costs:
Time it takes for new people to grow takes about 1 year and a couple poorly run tournaments.
People would currently tend to run the majority of things are willing to take on a mentor role developing their padawans  8)

All in all Kristine ur a dummy, I forgive you 100%, take a break from the game for a while and ATONE for your trespasses.
For everyone else, if you havent messed up or made a mistake as a human being please feel free to 7-0 me and bully kristine.

Peace  ;)


[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 15, 2020, 05:42:10 am
oh rip hawkince LMAO
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Sgt.Winters on September 15, 2020, 05:42:48 am
Just fucking BLEH
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: PapaBean on September 15, 2020, 10:34:21 pm
My cat goes meow
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 16, 2020, 03:55:23 pm



[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Not sure who made this post but in short,
I have fun playing this game and Ive been in the community for 6 years now. Ive been lucky to have met so many people and I get its easy to get frustrated at the state of the community, but rather than having a disempowering outlook that limits action which in turn creates worse results. Id suggest if we all clean up our own act that ripples into the broader community.

TL; DR
" Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on September 16, 2020, 04:03:05 pm
https://youtu.be/8SeRU_ZPDkE

Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 16, 2020, 04:18:19 pm
I have a hard time believing Mayhem is in his 30s
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: sidney crosby on September 16, 2020, 04:55:40 pm



[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Not sure who made this post but in short,
I have fun playing this game and Ive been in the community for 6 years now. Ive been lucky to have met so many people and I get its easy to get frustrated at the state of the community, but rather than having a disempowering outlook that limits action which in turn creates worse results. Id suggest if we all clean up our own act that ripples into the broader community.

TL; DR
" Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
how much more philosophical bullshit are you gonna post to try to sway everyone’s opinion? All this self-righteous bullshit making him look like a victim of the community.  Nobody but him is in the wrong here, he cheated, he should be banned it’s that simple. You’ve played for 6 years and that doesn’t bother you? I thought he did fine running the league, I wouldn’t have minded if he kept it but I understand why that bothered everyone else.

also not the first time one of your “padawans” has been caught cheating.... coincidence?   :-X  :-X

"Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Eamon on September 16, 2020, 05:36:01 pm
I have a hard time believing Mayhem is in his 30s

Aged like a fine wine
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ~Midnight~ on September 16, 2020, 05:49:29 pm
I have a hard time believing Mayhem is in his 30s

Aged like a fine wine

there is NO WAY
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Sgt.Winters on September 16, 2020, 05:50:04 pm
Peterson can't even take his own life advice. Like who the hell goes to some sketchy hospital in Russia and get placed in a medically induced coma in order to detox?

Going cold turkey after a benzo addiction isn't a walk in a park, so you'd expect a renowned psychologist such as himself to know better than to trust alternative-medicine quacks half a world away.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Windflower on September 16, 2020, 07:07:11 pm
Peterson can't even take his own life advice. Like who the hell goes to some sketchy hospital in Russia and get placed in a medically induced coma in order to detox?

Going cold turkey after a benzo addiction isn't a walk in a park, so you'd expect a renowned psychologist such as himself to know better than to trust alternative-medicine quacks half a world away.
"The psychologist’s daughter, Mikhaila, said that her father was initially prescribed a low dose of a benzodiazepine a few years ago for anxiety, but he only developed a physical dependence on the drug after his dose was increased last April following his wife’s terminal cancer diagnosis. She said Jordan was misdiagnosed at several hospitals in North America and “nearly died several times” before his family made the decision to fly him to Russia for emergency treatment. "
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 16, 2020, 08:10:08 pm



[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Not sure who made this post but in short,
I have fun playing this game and Ive been in the community for 6 years now. Ive been lucky to have met so many people and I get its easy to get frustrated at the state of the community, but rather than having a disempowering outlook that limits action which in turn creates worse results. Id suggest if we all clean up our own act that ripples into the broader community.

TL; DR
" Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
how much more philosophical bullshit are you gonna post to try to sway everyone’s opinion? All this self-righteous bullshit making him look like a victim of the community.  Nobody but him is in the wrong here, he cheated, he should be banned it’s that simple. You’ve played for 6 years and that doesn’t bother you? I thought he did fine running the league, I wouldn’t have minded if he kept it but I understand why that bothered everyone else.

also not the first time one of your “padawans” has been caught cheating.... coincidence?   :-X  :-X

"Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/48d0355da1b5b8ebd414323806ac2a7f/tenor.gif?itemid=13271320)
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 16, 2020, 09:39:12 pm



[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Not sure who made this post but in short,
I have fun playing this game and Ive been in the community for 6 years now. Ive been lucky to have met so many people and I get its easy to get frustrated at the state of the community, but rather than having a disempowering outlook that limits action which in turn creates worse results. Id suggest if we all clean up our own act that ripples into the broader community.

TL; DR
" Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
how much more philosophical bullshit are you gonna post to try to sway everyone’s opinion? All this self-righteous bullshit making him look like a victim of the community.  Nobody but him is in the wrong here, he cheated, he should be banned it’s that simple. You’ve played for 6 years and that doesn’t bother you? I thought he did fine running the league, I wouldn’t have minded if he kept it but I understand why that bothered everyone else.

also not the first time one of your “padawans” has been caught cheating.... coincidence?   :-X  :-X

"Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
anthony confirmed autoblock dealer.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Phil The Thril on September 17, 2020, 01:35:09 am



[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Not sure who made this post but in short,
I have fun playing this game and Ive been in the community for 6 years now. Ive been lucky to have met so many people and I get its easy to get frustrated at the state of the community, but rather than having a disempowering outlook that limits action which in turn creates worse results. Id suggest if we all clean up our own act that ripples into the broader community.

TL; DR
" Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
how much more philosophical bullshit are you gonna post to try to sway everyone’s opinion? All this self-righteous bullshit making him look like a victim of the community.  Nobody but him is in the wrong here, he cheated, he should be banned it’s that simple. You’ve played for 6 years and that doesn’t bother you? I thought he did fine running the league, I wouldn’t have minded if he kept it but I understand why that bothered everyone else.

also not the first time one of your “padawans” has been caught cheating.... coincidence?   :-X  :-X

"Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr78cb1vHJ0&ab_channel=JohnnyNoChill
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 17, 2020, 03:01:12 am



[17:21]
Your a good guy bro but I can't compliment your intelligence trying to save a community that clearly don't wanna be saved hosts rigg their own events, Jumping to conclussions (making things worse by mistake or on purpose for who knows what reason), Ddosing people which does 100% happen as well as sneaking under aliases to ddos someone whos ft7ing (for his friend "won't name"), people stacking regiments to win those events and then brag about it and try to bring people down, people sneaking under cd keys to tk someone or otherwise bait someone who they were to scared to fight with their own name ina ft7 or 1v1, insulting people in a event because you managed to kill someone who probaly didn't play his best that day or was just unfortunate (we all have lives outside the game but they knew this they just don't care), people grouping up with others to bully people like cowards, people trying to grab your ip even on teamspeak and get it by those you would think wouldn't give it out "teamspeak admins", and finnally (I know sorry LOL) angry people in general who can't handle be angry and go out of their way to start mad drama "spreading false rumors" or even lieing to people to make themselves feel good. As for your friend kristine whos just "confused, "slighty toxic", and if you mean by "representing the trolling in our community we also already have that bro and toxism then i don't wanna be right.  Would you honestly agree after reading all I wrote someone with these characteristics and sent you this over steam be great community as well as saving the community itself after everything I told you which is 100% true? Reflect on my words bud and think about the bigger picture is it really worth it? The smart is is "No". Also doesn't matter if new people come into the game and lead or not the real issue is dealing with the already corrupt people who run things not gonna say any names but I know who you are lol your own friends sold you out to me which is pretty sad like really.


where tf did this come from?
Not sure who made this post but in short,
I have fun playing this game and Ive been in the community for 6 years now. Ive been lucky to have met so many people and I get its easy to get frustrated at the state of the community, but rather than having a disempowering outlook that limits action which in turn creates worse results. Id suggest if we all clean up our own act that ripples into the broader community.

TL; DR
" Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson
how much more philosophical bullshit are you gonna post to try to sway everyone’s opinion? All this self-righteous bullshit making him look like a victim of the community.  Nobody but him is in the wrong here, he cheated, he should be banned it’s that simple. You’ve played for 6 years and that doesn’t bother you? I thought he did fine running the league, I wouldn’t have minded if he kept it but I understand why that bothered everyone else.

also not the first time one of your “padawans” has been caught cheating.... coincidence?   :-X  :-X

"Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"- Jordan B Peterson

bruh
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: BabyJesus on September 17, 2020, 06:21:50 pm
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 17, 2020, 07:04:37 pm
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 17, 2020, 07:34:16 pm
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: BabyJesus on September 17, 2020, 07:36:10 pm
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
he just admitted to updating his hacks
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 17, 2020, 07:37:38 pm
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 18, 2020, 12:33:23 am
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Anthony was testing a prototype during the 5v5 league codename "GodBlock"

https://www.twitch.tv/aestheticaurum/clip/CulturedAmericanSproutItsBoshyTime?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 18, 2020, 12:50:32 am
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Anthony was testing a prototype during the 5v5 league codename "GodBlock"

https://www.twitch.tv/aestheticaurum/clip/CulturedAmericanSproutItsBoshyTime?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Still confused by this cause I've never seen it before/since this happened. Only thing similar is when you are sideblocking and still somehow block the persons attack.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 18, 2020, 12:55:36 am
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Anthony was testing a prototype during the 5v5 league codename "GodBlock"

https://www.twitch.tv/aestheticaurum/clip/CulturedAmericanSproutItsBoshyTime?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Still confused by this cause I've never seen it before/since this happened. Only thing similar is when you are sideblocking and still somehow block the persons attack.
I think this happened a few times to others during the 5v5 league but this was the craziest.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: The Marksman on September 18, 2020, 01:42:24 am
We're not about to gloss over Marksman's post smh

Fools. You can't run from the truth forever.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Aurum on September 18, 2020, 01:51:01 am
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Anthony was testing a prototype during the 5v5 league codename "GodBlock"

https://www.twitch.tv/aestheticaurum/clip/CulturedAmericanSproutItsBoshyTime?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Still confused by this cause I've never seen it before/since this happened. Only thing similar is when you are sideblocking and still somehow block the persons attack.
I think this happened a few times to others during the 5v5 league but this was the craziest.

was he blocking on his screen? my only explanation could be that there was some server lag going on or something
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 18, 2020, 01:54:09 am
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Anthony was testing a prototype during the 5v5 league codename "GodBlock"

https://www.twitch.tv/aestheticaurum/clip/CulturedAmericanSproutItsBoshyTime?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Still confused by this cause I've never seen it before/since this happened. Only thing similar is when you are sideblocking and still somehow block the persons attack.
I think this happened a few times to others during the 5v5 league but this was the craziest.

was he blocking on his screen? my only explanation could be that there was some server lag going on or something
Client side I imagine it was fine, I guess the server couldn't keep up with anthony's no fap hands.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 18, 2020, 05:00:30 am
Instead of attacking the addicts why don’t we attack the dealers. Clean the streets and save our kids. Your done Anthony  >:(
Bruh plz
if i auto
why does it keep getting better  8) 8) :o
Your blocking might be getting better but learn to stop choking n3rd.
bruh i dont choke in duelz
Anthony was testing a prototype during the 5v5 league codename "GodBlock"

https://www.twitch.tv/aestheticaurum/clip/CulturedAmericanSproutItsBoshyTime?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Still confused by this cause I've never seen it before/since this happened. Only thing similar is when you are sideblocking and still somehow block the persons attack.
I think this happened a few times to others during the 5v5 league but this was the craziest.

was he blocking on his screen? my only explanation could be that there was some server lag going on or something
Client side I imagine it was fine, I guess the server couldn't keep up with anthony's no fap hands.

Thats not how it works the animations aren't client sided anyways and if youll remember unblockable worked by having you throw a side attack but even on the client side screen it was still a normal attack. Also the animation cancelling/glitch shows up on both sides so you can't block without it showing up on the other person's screen.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Xethos on September 18, 2020, 01:03:38 pm
Thats not how it works the animations aren't client sided anyways and if youll remember unblockable worked by having you throw a side attack but even on the client side screen it was still a normal attack. Also the animation cancelling/glitch shows up on both sides so you can't block without it showing up on the other person's screen.

Animations are client side. That's why the NW enhancement mod and the like are able to work. Your animations do not have to line up with the server's. The server will send your client a packet telling it that there is an animation in progress and it's up to your internet and client to process that packet.

There is a problem in Warband with animation desync. This has been the case for a long time. A lot of people over the years have experienced standing there holding an up or down block, then being told that everybody else in the server saw them holding a sideblock. I get the same bug with attack directions, mostly when I'm playing cav. I believe it has to do with packet loss and changing attack/block directions quickly, but it's purely conjecture. I get it most often on cav, when I'm flinging my mouse around to look for enemies and then quickly try to grab an attack direction.

Taleworlds even is/was aware of the problem. There is a built in delay between when your client registers you have clicked and when the packet gets sent to the server. They increased it in the January 2018 patch. That was their attempt to resolve it. It didn't work, and really didn't accomplish anything other than making melee feel garbage and getting people to shit on the actually positive melee changes that FSE made. You can see this discussion about the change here (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38084). Keep in mind that, although FSE reverted all of the changes on their end, the change in question was a Taleworlds thing in the Warband .exe, and to my knowledge, was not fixed.

Without making this a rant on how Taleworlds ruined NW, wrong blocks have been appearing in the game for a very long time. The fact that you're seeing it is more likely proof of Warband's awful networking than it is of cheating, unless you're seeing it reliably and consistently.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Theodin on September 18, 2020, 02:30:50 pm
Xethos with massive truth bombs!
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: JollyCanadian on September 18, 2020, 04:56:33 pm
Was gonna say it's been happening a lot where I downblock but the other person sees an upblock or whatever. Don't know if it's just because I've noticed but it does happen a bunch more for me at least
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 18, 2020, 05:07:48 pm
For me it's the opposite, I block downattacks with an upblock xd
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 18, 2020, 05:32:19 pm
Alright i watched the clip and i think i can explain whats going on. I blocked the first couple by reclicking attack to reset the block timing, however u know when u do a ritz spin and the block is falling down and reseting but before the total reset u do the attack spin. For me i just went to the upblock in the middle of the block dropping after I blocked serval attacks before hand, then because I saw everyone was attacking up I was just turning to block the incoming attacks.
On my screen I was only holding upblock
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Glenn on September 18, 2020, 09:13:39 pm
Xethos confirming the eSport Mount and Blade Napoelonic Wars is all RNG
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Fartknocker on September 19, 2020, 01:08:16 am
Xethos confirming the eSport Mount and Blade Napoelonic Wars is all RNG
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: antslimey on September 19, 2020, 02:52:14 am
Xethos confirming the eSport Mount and Blade Napoelonic Wars is all RNG
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Hawkince on September 19, 2020, 04:16:53 am
Thats not how it works the animations aren't client sided anyways and if youll remember unblockable worked by having you throw a side attack but even on the client side screen it was still a normal attack. Also the animation cancelling/glitch shows up on both sides so you can't block without it showing up on the other person's screen.

Animations are client side. That's why the NW enhancement mod and the like are able to work. Your animations do not have to line up with the server's. The server will send your client a packet telling it that there is an animation in progress and it's up to your internet and client to process that packet.

There is a problem in Warband with animation desync. This has been the case for a long time. A lot of people over the years have experienced standing there holding an up or down block, then being told that everybody else in the server saw them holding a sideblock. I get the same bug with attack directions, mostly when I'm playing cav. I believe it has to do with packet loss and changing attack/block directions quickly, but it's purely conjecture. I get it most often on cav, when I'm flinging my mouse around to look for enemies and then quickly try to grab an attack direction.

Taleworlds even is/was aware of the problem. There is a built in delay between when your client registers you have clicked and when the packet gets sent to the server. They increased it in the January 2018 patch. That was their attempt to resolve it. It didn't work, and really didn't accomplish anything other than making melee feel garbage and getting people to shit on the actually positive melee changes that FSE made. You can see this discussion about the change here (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38084). Keep in mind that, although FSE reverted all of the changes on their end, the change in question was a Taleworlds thing in the Warband .exe, and to my knowledge, was not fixed.

Without making this a rant on how Taleworlds ruined NW, wrong blocks have been appearing in the game for a very long time. The fact that you're seeing it is more likely proof of Warband's awful networking than it is of cheating, unless you're seeing it reliably and consistently.

o
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kristine on September 19, 2020, 04:18:55 am
Thats not how it works the animations aren't client sided anyways and if youll remember unblockable worked by having you throw a side attack but even on the client side screen it was still a normal attack. Also the animation cancelling/glitch shows up on both sides so you can't block without it showing up on the other person's screen.

Animations are client side. That's why the NW enhancement mod and the like are able to work. Your animations do not have to line up with the server's. The server will send your client a packet telling it that there is an animation in progress and it's up to your internet and client to process that packet.

There is a problem in Warband with animation desync. This has been the case for a long time. A lot of people over the years have experienced standing there holding an up or down block, then being told that everybody else in the server saw them holding a sideblock. I get the same bug with attack directions, mostly when I'm playing cav. I believe it has to do with packet loss and changing attack/block directions quickly, but it's purely conjecture. I get it most often on cav, when I'm flinging my mouse around to look for enemies and then quickly try to grab an attack direction.

Taleworlds even is/was aware of the problem. There is a built in delay between when your client registers you have clicked and when the packet gets sent to the server. They increased it in the January 2018 patch. That was their attempt to resolve it. It didn't work, and really didn't accomplish anything other than making melee feel garbage and getting people to shit on the actually positive melee changes that FSE made. You can see this discussion about the change here (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38084). Keep in mind that, although FSE reverted all of the changes on their end, the change in question was a Taleworlds thing in the Warband .exe, and to my knowledge, was not fixed.

Without making this a rant on how Taleworlds ruined NW, wrong blocks have been appearing in the game for a very long time. The fact that you're seeing it is more likely proof of Warband's awful networking than it is of cheating, unless you're seeing it reliably and consistently.

o
https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/serverless/glossary/client-side-vs-server-side/

It's actually really interesting how networks and servers work.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Andee on September 26, 2020, 09:35:43 am
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments

Just because he starts 20 tournaments and finishes 2, doesn't mean they're good.
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on September 26, 2020, 10:13:58 am
I say we just go back to Dan ran tournaments

Just because he starts 20 tournaments and finishes 2, doesn't mean they're good.

Can't finish tournaments if noone signs up/bails during the season
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Yvrul on September 26, 2020, 10:28:37 am
Good read  :) Risk is super mean  >:(
Title: Re: You don't own me.
Post by: Kore on September 26, 2020, 01:30:06 pm
Lurvy you are hilarious indeed