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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: September 25, 2017, 12:36:08 am »

They already did a study, every $1b spent on military equates to around 11,000 jobs, so this $80B increase will provide hundreds of thousands of jobs in a skilled sector which relies on military contracts.

Rubbish. That money comes from taxation or borrowing (and the latter gets paid back by taxation anyway). You're taking money out of people's pockets in order to pay for ships and missiles. If you didn't take it out their pockets they'd spend it themselves in ways that would create just as many jobs if not more (since it's inefficient to tax and spend given you need to pay the bureaucrats to administrate it). 

If the aim is to create jobs then increasing government spending makes no sense unless you're in a recession, and even then you always borrow the money rather than increase taxes. 

http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic/economy/employment
That's my source, analyze it yourself, I just had it saved from a paper I had to do last year

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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: September 25, 2017, 12:29:53 am »

I agree for sure education needs to be heavily reformed.  Healthcare... look at it this way, it costs $3 trillion in spending to keep up current Medicare and Medicaid programs.  Universal healthcare, at least from when economists used sanders campaign, would cost $2.8trillion a year.  To put that into perspective, in 2016 the CBO said the fed government took it $3.3 trillion in revenue.  That's just revenue, not talking about the obvious debt pool we are in, universal healthcare would likely put us in a massive recession for several years, with a small likelihood of getting better without a plan for the government to make money. 

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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: September 25, 2017, 12:16:47 am »

Infrastructure policy making here is always mostly at a state level. Like if the government issued the state of Vermont $5B to build new roads/bridges, maybe the governor of that state is conservative and won't spend a dime for 5-10 years, it just depends.  This is federal spending, and they spend trillions as it is on healthcare programs.  They already did a study, every $1b spent on military equates to around 11,000 jobs, so this $80B increase will provide hundreds of thousands of jobs in a skilled sector which relies on military contracts.

Education again, the impact of spending would have to be constituted at a local/state level.  It's already a failure, when there are public schools which rely on a large part of federal money, which can be defined by average test scores and teacher compensation, it's a huge mess as it is

There's a good example of a Chicago district where teachers were 'faking' or just giving students A's so they could retain some federal money

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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: September 22, 2017, 08:37:17 pm »

Like maybe making sure all of your citizens are given proper healthcare. Not fucking the environment could be a priority too.

So you want to take away thousands of jobs and GDP  to instead use that money to increase spending on already trillion dollar programs? Nice

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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: September 22, 2017, 05:12:56 pm »

If freedom is the goal, there are much better ways to spend that money.

Economically I'm not saying it's great, but it provides jobs and more work for thousands of engineers, among other roles.  $800 billion or whatever total for the military is huge, but the amount of jobs and work that money provides is also enormous.  The rest $3 trillion spending goes to social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc... 

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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: September 22, 2017, 04:32:44 pm »

Lol it doesn't matter democrat or republican or trump, military spending will always increase because freedom!  And should probably get China to adhere to the same climate change accords in the meantime.

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Off Topic / Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread

« on: September 20, 2017, 04:58:12 pm »

Aye, our glorious US senate just approved an $80 billion increase in military spending, Trump only asked for $47B.  Oh and only 8 out of 100 senators voted against 
We preparing to take over all you scum

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Off Topic / Re: The 2018 Federal Wide Legalization for the Recreational Use of Cannabis - Canada

« on: September 19, 2017, 08:51:02 pm »

Everyone smokes weed, Jesus at least 60% of high schoolers in the US probably smoke weed, you can't say there's any relation to causing someone to commit terrorist acts. 

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Off Topic / Re: The 2018 Federal Wide Legalization for the Recreational Use of Cannabis - Canada

« on: September 19, 2017, 04:52:39 am »

While there are 70 cancer causing chemicals found in tobacco, 30 of them are found in smoking marijuana, so yes theoretically you can get lung cancer from smoking weed (not talking once a day but every few days), which can 'theoretically' lead to death (not to mention everyone inhales obviously deeper with weed).  There have not been enough studies done showing direct relation to those that have died because they smoke weed and also cigs, but both have tar.  The American cancer society is actually continuing ongoing long term studies for this in 8 legalized states, so we will see sooner or later. 

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Off Topic / Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread

« on: September 15, 2017, 10:02:01 pm »

Yeah, because in normal democracies everybody in the opposition just stops working until next election day.

He's not working though, his own state passed the single payer system then they realized they didn't have money to pay for it so it failed lmao

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Off Topic / Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread

« on: September 15, 2017, 05:37:18 pm »

lol sanders pushing for single payer health when Trump is in power

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Off Topic / Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread

« on: September 15, 2017, 02:43:09 am »

So genuine question Karth. What is it that every other politician has access to that Trump didn't? I would like to understand it in more detail.

And Fraudbear can you please explain to me your perfect society. I would like to understand how it would work and actually create a functioning economy.

Trump never even had any security clearances prior to office, or access to Congressional Budget Office reports.  CBO has the top analysts who have no political agenda, and map out the consequences for any economic/financial decision on an upcoming bill, along with analytics on a variety of economic issues.  These are mostly not made available public, politicians have direct access to them.  The next big thing is everything else that comes with an SC, from nuclear weapons info to foreign affairs.  Literally probably thousands of hours of information.  Actually pretty sure there was a documentary on 60 minutes or somewhere that explains all this lol
Anyways, morale is, prior to obtaining office Trump was as normal as us, in regards to the access to government information and knowledge he had.  After gaining office, he has had exposure and continues to gain exposure to everything having to do with the government, and unlike other politicians who are familiar with this, he was not.

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Off Topic / Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread

« on: September 15, 2017, 02:26:30 am »

Karth it's not like that kind of information is classified. If a person is expected to change their views upon taking office then surely that means what they were voted in based upon is simply wrong? Are you saying trump is wrong?

Are you kidding? There's a lot the CBO reports along with info accessed with security clearances that is not made public.  I'm saying Trump adapted and changed his views based upon the information he had access to when he was in office, not for everything of course (mostly social issues).  He's the only President in modern day who has not had access to that sort of information, because again he's not a career politician like every recent President. 

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Off Topic / Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread

« on: September 15, 2017, 01:55:19 am »

First off. Trump was never in politics like Obama or Clinton, so it should be expected when he takes office, he is bombarded with loads of inside information from everything spanning healthcare to the economy and military.  It is expected for him to change his views based upon the information he gains while in office, because before he was in office the guy had little knowledge about substantial topics. 

The whole Charlottesville thing in my mind was just stupid.  He's not a white supremacist and for the KKK when he has Jewish grandkids.  It was blown out of proportion by the media.  I am not defending him at all though, guy still hasn't fulfilled many promises to his loyal constituents.

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Regiments / Re: 63ème Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne [4 Years and Going!]

« on: September 13, 2017, 06:52:55 pm »

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