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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2017, 02:05:39 pm »
In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...

You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.

I think global events have shifted people's political views, not that people just woke up one day thinking "I feel like being a racist today!" ;)

Ironically it's the liberal governments that started the wars that set all the terrorism in motion, and said terrorism helped make more centralist voters lean right. Checkmate, liberals.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2017, 03:13:55 pm »
The current political environement and the upcoming elections in my country and some others have just shown how incredibly divided we all are. If one shows support for the left they are made out for communist, SJW or angsty teenager. If one shows support for the right, they are made out to be a racist, bigot and douchebag. Our entire society has now boiled down to an 'us vs them' mentality. And both the left and right are very much guilty of this. It's gonna be an interesting election year, that's for sure.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2017, 03:36:23 pm »
I don't really agree with that notion. There has always been a 'left=commies' and 'right=racist' mentality, which leads to the 'us-versus-them' feeling in politics, but this is relatively on a pretty harmless scale. Politics will always divide us and it isn't, and shouldn't, anything to worry about.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2017, 04:27:28 pm »
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2017, 04:51:07 pm »
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.

Eh, how old are you?

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2017, 05:38:15 pm »
Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...

You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.

I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so much
Maybe because Germany hates Germany.
It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.
Whose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).

Hold on there, you just activated my trap card, "Check yourself before you rek yourself". When an opponent tries to distance themselves from identity politics, remind them that they blamed the rise of the populist right on racism and xenophobia, which is basically identity politics.

It also allows me to draw 2 more cards.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2017, 05:51:36 pm »
I don't really agree with that notion. There has always been a 'left=commies' and 'right=racist' mentality, which leads to the 'us-versus-them' feeling in politics, but this is relatively on a pretty harmless scale. Politics will always divide us and it isn't, and shouldn't, anything to worry about.

Yeah it's only these divisions that have led to some of the bloodiest events in history. Nothing to worry about really.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2017, 06:00:19 pm »
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.

Eh, how old are you?

What role does that play?
All I am saying is, that the political environment is a lot calmer now than it used to be...

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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2017, 06:02:27 pm »
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2017, 06:03:44 pm »
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.

Eh, how old are you?

What role does that play?
All I am saying is, that the political environment is a lot calmer now than it used to be...

He was more referring to the "I remember" and "JUST 40 years ago"

Almost sounds like you were there or something.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2017, 06:10:03 pm »
What a devastating trap card activation from Apoc

What's funny is the commies don't seem to understand the reason the worker's revolution isn't coming is because they are too busy calling the proletariat racist and xenophobic.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2017, 06:20:26 pm »
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.

Eh, how old are you?

What role does that play?
All I am saying is, that the political environment is a lot calmer now than it used to be...

You said you remembered stuff from 40 years ago, didn't think you were that old is all!

Latest polls coming out from Germany show big SPD gains against Merkel-not at all guaranteed she'll remain Chancellor.


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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2017, 06:24:06 pm »
Except the SPD doesn't have a candidate yet. So they would vote for Merkel, even tho she is in a different Party.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2017, 06:27:20 pm »
Except the SPD doesn't have a candidate yet. So they would vote for Merkel, even tho she is in a different Party.
hasn't schulz become the official candidate recently? ???
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2017, 06:43:42 pm »
Jesus christ, seems Fillon is close to having his own little scandal surrounding him. This is gonna be a rocky year.
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