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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #570 on: January 29, 2017, 05:31:52 pm »
The Dutch Greens have been a medium-sized player in Dutch politics ever since it was created and so lost most of their more ridicious tendencies. They're polling at a (relative) huge win of up to 15 seats, bypassing Labour (12) and the Socialist Party (13). Of course, polls are polls. I'm hoping for twelve seats.

With the Dutch, German, and French Elections coming up, we might as well create a thread specifically for that.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #571 on: January 29, 2017, 05:53:23 pm »
What's the main Dutch centre-right party? I assume it's not Wilders.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #572 on: January 29, 2017, 06:31:01 pm »
What's the main Dutch centre-right party? I assume it's not Wilders.

See the other thread.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #573 on: January 29, 2017, 08:39:27 pm »
So...

1. Trump did the ban thing

2. Federal Court ordered the release of Green Card and Visa holders

3. Trump apparantly ordered the Custom and Border Patrol to continue with that practise and in Dunnes attorneys weren't allowed to visit jailed refugees.

So if point 3 is true, which is very much appears to be, I do believe he is breaking constitutional law? Not bad for day 10.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #574 on: January 29, 2017, 08:44:12 pm »
Dulles* but that seems so
Even though the spirit of the law makes sense to me, I would think citizens and Green Card/Visa holders would be allowed. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't free movement into and out of the country guaranteed for citizens in the constitution?

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #575 on: January 29, 2017, 08:55:50 pm »
Yea of course. But how are green card and visa holders citizens lol

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #576 on: January 29, 2017, 09:00:26 pm »
They aren't, but I would think they'd at least deserve entry.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #577 on: January 29, 2017, 09:03:57 pm »
Which is why the 'spirit of the law' makes no sense at all. It bans Green Card holders solely because of their place of birth. It doesn't protect anyone, and meant solely to please some of Trump voters who don't know, but mostly honestly don't care, about the finer points of constitutional law or human rights.

They're not citizens, but they're entitled to rights based on that Green Card or Visa just like American citizens are. In a similair way, citizens of other European countries can enter, live and work legally in EU memberstates, even though they're not citizens. Besides, there is now a court order by a Federal judge that dictates Green Card Holders must be allowed entry to the United States, so until that court order is recinded or struck down by a higher court, Trump is simply disregarding the constitution he swore an oath to protect just nine days ago.

Of course, the problem with this is that, like I said, most Trump supporters really don't care about constitutional law until it stops protecting their guns.
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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #578 on: January 29, 2017, 10:07:09 pm »
Ignore the hysteria from the media, this is what the facts are about Trump's Executive Order from the UK Foreign Office:


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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #580 on: January 30, 2017, 05:43:14 pm »
Oh crap, the left is staging a big coverup! You got a Obama, Hillary, Green Lady and News man working together to coverup rigging the election! That image actually looks like something you'd find posted by RebelMedia.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #581 on: January 30, 2017, 06:27:06 pm »
When ^ misses the point

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #582 on: January 30, 2017, 10:22:54 pm »
Oh crap, the left is staging a big coverup! You got a Obama, Hillary, Green Lady and News man working together to coverup rigging the election! That image actually looks like something you'd find posted by RebelMedia.

Stuck up liberals speaking like this is exactly why Trump won...

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #583 on: January 30, 2017, 10:29:05 pm »
Oh crap, the left is staging a big coverup! You got a Obama, Hillary, Green Lady and News man working together to coverup rigging the election! That image actually looks like something you'd find posted by RebelMedia.

Stuck up liberals speaking like this is exactly why Trump won...
I mean, I think his targeting of the key battleground states by saying he would bring jobs back their along with the general mistrust people had in Hillary is what won him the election - But yea, it was us "liberals" poking fun at bullshit images that brought Trump to victory. Well done RickPerry.

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Re: US Politics thread
« Reply #584 on: January 30, 2017, 10:42:28 pm »
It's okay if you continue talking like that. Means we get more Trumps.

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