United States Thread

[Karth]

 

Obama = Poop

Well at least he had guts to pass obamacare.  Everything else he has done in his presidency has been disappointing to say the least.

Eh Obamacare was pretty piss-poor. Otherwise ya, everything else he has down has gone down the drain. Can't believe some people still wanted to re-elect him after his first term, which was HORRIBLE. Can't wait till 2016 when he is gone.

Care to explain why it was pretty piss poor? Besides a bad website, I dont think insurance companies have the right to play God, dictating when not to pay or save a patient who has cancer by increasing his/her premium, they are people, could be your neighbor, and the insurance company used to be able to pull the plug if they wanted.  Other than that a majority of people now have healthcare (yea a few had to change because they were on cheap crap plans in the first place), and a majority pay less (including my self I get healthcare benefits from working part time and my premium as I am alone went down 30% because our company switched, scared people would leave, thus creating a market). It also makes it x10 easier for college students like myself to enroll independently, with more knowledge and cheaper costs.   This should have been dealt with decades ago.  Mitt Romney had a extremely similar plan like his, which is why I favored him more than Obama in 2012.

[The Rebel]

Tbh. I have just listened to my parents and gone off my own knowledge.

[Karth]

Tbh. I have just listened to my parents and gone off my own knowledge.

Haha atleast you are honest    Its just politics, Republicans slandering Obamacare because of its faulty site, people buy into it, few people and small businesses are forced to pay healthcare for their employees then lobby the news stations to slander the ACA even more.  At the end of the day, I only see it helping people.  Thats not to see a few (like 30%) will have to change plans and pay more, but a overall majority (more so in Kentucky and other poor areas) are greatly benefiting from it.  It would be the exact same thing but the Dems slandering Romneycare if he was elected.  Either way, both parties at least had it in their plans.  Even small businesses who have to pay for their employees healthcare are given subsidies in the form of tax credits, which is pretty helpful.  The thing that still irks me is that these Tea Party members are trying to get it repealed (how dumb can you get), which will never happen considering the statistics.

[Newkirk]

Tbh. I have just listened to my parents and gone off my own knowledge.

Haha atleast you are honest    Its just politics, Republicans slandering Obamacare because of its faulty site, people buy into it, few people and small businesses are forced to pay healthcare for their employees then lobby the news stations to slander the ACA even more.  At the end of the day, I only see it helping people.  Thats not to see a few (like 30%) will have to change plans and pay more, but a overall majority (more so in Kentucky and other poor areas) are greatly benefiting from it.  It would be the exact same thing but the Dems slandering Romneycare if he was elected.  Either way, both parties at least had it in their plans.  Even small businesses who have to pay for their employees healthcare are given subsidies in the form of tax credits, which is pretty helpful.  The thing that still irks me is that these Tea Party members are trying to get it repealed (how dumb can you get), which will never happen considering the statistics.

Well when the Republican Speaker of the House says that the Tea Party is basically nuts, it's a pretty good indicator that something's wrong. I simply fail to understand why others must feel the need to repeal something that was not passed by their own party, regardless of how much it has helped or hindered the population. Karth I hadnt heard that Romney had a similar healthcare plan, but IMO the Democrats are a slightly stronger party at this point, so there's a good chance Romneycare or any healthcare reform at all would not be a thing currently if the roles were reversed.

[MrTiki]

Honestly the broken political system in the US is the cause of so many issues. If it were fixed, quality of life would vastly improve.

[MarshalKim]

Boring overdone topic that won't get anywhere because peoples opinion on the subject is stubborn.

[ClearlyInvsible]

Honestly the broken political system in the US is the cause of so many issues. If it were fixed, quality of life would vastly improve.

It would be nice if we could finally live in a more than two-party state, but at this point I don't know HOW we'd be able to shift that point.

[Jorvasker]

Honestly the broken political system in the US is the cause of so many issues. If it were fixed, quality of life would vastly improve.

[Crescent Glow]

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[ClearlyInvsible]

This has been a debate for ages, it hasn't been since the friggen early 1900s since a 3rd party had a prayer of winning an election.

How do you change something which so many others claim is a non-issue?

[Shredder]

Bribes, money in campaigns? idk

[MarshalKim]

This has been a debate for ages, it hasn't been since the friggen early 1900s since a 3rd party had a prayer of winning an election.

How do you change something which so many others claim is a non-issue?

Communism.

[Newkirk]

To be quite honest I could see a split in the Republican party. You'd wind up with Democrats, Republicans and the Tea Party. But then of course if that happened neither the Republicans or the Tea Party would have a prayer at a House majority and a very slim chance at a Presidential Election.

[Karth]

The two majority party system will never change, nor can be changed at this point.  The most you can do is focus on who is elected in your district, your state reps are the ones who make the most calls about taxes and jobs relevant to you, and most of the time you can just call them, other than that unless you are extremely wealthy you cant change politics.  Back to Romneycare, its extremely similar to Obamacare, Romney instituted a similar plan in Massachusetts at the time and it was very successful, insurance companies had less control, and it made it way more affordable for college students to acquire healthcare plans.  Obviously there are still several differences as the scope and cost is on a much larger level with ACA.

[MrTiki]

It can be changed, but it would require a complete revamp of the whole damn system, including the first past the post, electoral colleges, and a rebalancing of the "checks and balances".